Comments on: Sacred Cows – I

By: publicmb

publicmb — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:01:55 +0000

It is so bad that corrupt ARMY officers reach at the top while honest are thrown out in mid-way.

By: Wahid Doyum

Wahid Doyum — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:10:42 +0000

Than explain to us Agha Amin, your “business” interests in Kabul, your pay masters and drinking buddies in your circle of fellow khalq communists. It is army people like you have driven the army and the country into the gutter, but refuse to acknowledge the immense damage people like you have caused by being part of the so called 95% “honest” officers. In fact 95% of your lot are corrupt to the core who have ruined Pakistani federation by first inventing Taliban now trying to fight one faction of this frankenstein creation of the Pakistan Army.

Also, your air force sources are 100% wrong in this case, no matter their rank. In fact in the military, the higher the rank, the more wrong their opinion is on technical matters. Ask your air force buddies which cheaper option they would have for air to air refueling for the JF-17 that the PAF can acquire on short notice. Go ahead and ask them. While at it, take a look at which other countries are suing the same platform and what dual purpose advantage the PAF’s version will have.

By: Agha H Amin

Agha H Amin — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:17:42 +0000

wahid doyum my sources for technical analysis are one ex air chief , one Russian airforce general and two top notch air commodores of airforce far more professional than you.

if a man is ignorant like you he can get an experts opinion.

By: ahamin

ahamin — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:58:09 +0000

we must support Kamran Shafi.He is a man of conviction and knowledge.What he writes is out of conviction.

i am not surprised that he has definite views about who has done it.

i was deeply anguished and hurt to learn that the military has black listed many retired officers from entering army messes including general hameed gul.

i didnot agree with many of his views and we both were at logger heads but i found hameed gul a thorough professional miles above many senior officers that i saw.it was disgusting to find that the army has blacklisted such illustrious officers.

By: ahamin

ahamin — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:50:00 +0000

sazbagh sahib.thanks for your kind remarks.

i am fifth generation soldier.grand fathers grandfather was in 5th and 8th light cavalry disbanded in 1857.his son was in cavalry and later punjab police.his son was an assistant secretary in ministry of defence before partition and retired in 1954.my father was a brigadier.its a tragedy that 95 % officers were not involved in any racket but a small minority was.i played squash with musharraf in 1992-93.his father was a clerk with my khaloo in foreign service while my uncle was from last batch of ICS and first batch of foreign service.musharraf was a well meaning man and we had great expectations from him.i even warned him about the impending conspiracy against him in wrtiting on 7th october 1999.we had great expectations but he changed later on.once you write some facts there are characters who get very angry.i did not make one penny froas m writing these articles nor did any party reward me.all that i wrote was for my inner satisfaction.i wrote more than 100 articles for NATION but was not paid for a single one.nor did i demand payment.sadly most of the TV journalists are lifafa journalists.

please do read my writings on scribd.

i was commissioned in 11 cavalry (also known as PAVO).Later served in 58 cavalry,15 Lancers,29 Cavalry,14 Lancers and commanded 5 Independent Squadron at Okara.in addition i served in 3rd armoured brigade as an MTO and at tactical wing school of armour as instructor.

i did not serve in 19 lancers but saw it closely as my brigade unit in 1985-86 and developed a great respect for this most outstanding unit.Brigadier Arshad Mian Iqbal and Major Sultan were my close friends in this regiment.

By: sabazbagh

sabazbagh — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:42:05 +0000

@ mir munsif.
Everything that Zardari is doing is a follow-up of what his mentor Musharaf did. Attack-on/harassing-of Journalists/others is NOTHING NEW. Again no amount of denouncement will ever put an end-to or reduce such heinous & shameless acts of the agencies.
Simple solution: Just hang those responsible by their necks to the nearest pole in the public square. That’s it. There are no short-cut solutions.

By: sabazbagh

sabazbagh — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:43:51 +0000

@ ahamin.
I among others would not have known that your article was ‘picked up’ & reproduced verbatim, had you not later interjected ; nor anything about your service with an Armored Corp unit, (the 19 Lancers,) till after going through you profile. I was also pleased to know about your literary contributions which reflect your past army service.
You will definitely agree with me that most of the names & events stated in the said articles, are common knowledge, especially to most of Army/Armored Corp guys & to their equal # of civilian colleagues/friends/relations. Most of present readers/others can vouch about the correctness of ‘facts’ & info, stated there-in. There is no denial on that account.
Don’t you feel that somebody has (indirectly,) tried to do you a ‘favor’ by reproducing your said article on this website; which otherwise MAY NOT HAVE HAD acquired such a wide/mass circulation?

By: mir munsif

mir munsif — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:06:01 +0000

The latest eye opening event to share you..see how agencies are harassing and attacking Journalists and those who dare to highlight their heinous and illicit acts.

kamran Shafi’s house attacked in Waha.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/columnists/kamran-shafi-in-it-up-to-our-necks-129

Big Shame for Shameless Military Economic Umpire!!!!

Lets denounce all such heinous acts by Agencies.

By: Wahid Doyum

Wahid Doyum — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:57:13 +0000

There is corruption in the army just like in every other institution in the country, but many of these allegations are unproven and blown out of proportion. Military contracts can never be directly compared to civilian contracts, as it’s not always about the lowest bidder, but quality and features can play a very crucial role in warfare.

For example, the “obsolete” air refuler that AH Amin mentions is the same one the Indians will use and is needed for the JF-17. AH Amin, you may know your tanks, but you’re not an expert on fighter jets.

By: Wahid Doyum

Wahid Doyum — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:51:07 +0000

Major (retd) AH Amin, I suggest you go back to drinking your scotch and looking at porn while stationed in Kabul serving your communist khalq masters.

Your checkered past is well known to some of us.