Gen Shahid Aziz has not named General Zarar Zamin who sold lands of lahore DHA. He had also not named those Musharraf’s generals and cabinet of shaukat aziz who sold lands of Gwadar. Tell the whole truth.
@aftab said:
There is no doubt that Zardari is the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan after Musharraf. But show no sympathy with those who sold Pakistani nationals to Americans for 9 years. They all need to be punished for looting, killing and selling Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Zardari and leading other politicians and generals are so corrupt and involved in controversial acts that sometime one fears about the future of this country.
Gen Shahid Aziz has mentioned so many cases where Gen Musharraf and his group was involved in above mentioned issues, but to no avail. He is a general and cannot be questioned.
Then comes political elite which claimed to undo wrongs of Musharraf but committed even more crimes.
Now who would come and lead this poor nation which is suffering only due to one reason that our people accept such “Madari” leaders.
For all those who are in love with present political class, this is an eye opener.
We will fail on all acconts; governenece, transparency, economy and social justice till we deal with corruption. Who will do it?
simple answer: someone who doest not have any charges against him,who does not need an NRO, who does not own any sugar,steel,DHA plots………..
Is Imran khan the answer,only time will tell………but i sincerely wish we have someone who can cleanse the system. This system perpetuates corruption, it shunts out cleans people and renders them ineffective……
Musharraf and Zardari are one and the same thing. Both US agents posted here to give americans everything they want. In return, they get a license to kill.
An eye opening show.It revealed lots of facts.If such programme would have aired in a western democratic society it was going to bring a big uproar but here in Pakistan it is just another day.At the end of the day the only argument we will hear is that these are politically motivated cases.
The record of Swiss case has been shifted to England covertly. Pakistani high commissioner and close friend of Zardari received the documents. President,s spoke person is denying it but that is no surprise. Our leaders are so corrupt they do not have time to think about Pakistan or its people because they are so busy to nullifying the evidence against them they do n0t care about the people of Pakistan.
Brilliant. I never thought I would ever praise a general, serving or retired. But if this man is telling the truth it just goes to show how corrupt and incompetent Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz were. Just amazing confession. He should write a book.
Hats off to Nadeem Malik
Gen Shahid Aziz unfolded lot of secrets one very disturbing secret he disclosed was the import of malformed and vitiate deasel . And it is a almost 90 billions rupees fraud every year. We can just pray to God to bless Pakistan with honest leader ship otherwise i do not see any hope.It also tells us that why some people are so rich and where the money come from and why oil import is in the government control.
One thing is obvious that the system in Pakistan circumnavigate around corrupt politicians and generals. They cover each other back pass resolutions and make laws to give safe passage to corrupts to commit crimes and get away with it. Now it is no secret that why people of Pakistan are deprived ,why Balochistan is neglected because small group of greedy people want to keep all the resources of Pakistan in their hands.
Famous writer and journalist on 1-12-2009 in an article in THENEWS daily formed 22 points to answer to check the honesty of our politicians under the name of CATCH_22. These are very thoughtful 22 points. They put all the onus on politicians and generals to prove their innocence and honesty government do not have to spend billions of rupees on investigations.Here are the points.
“Are you an American citizen; a British subject; a green card holder? Are you of sound mind and body? Have you lied about your academic degrees? How much income tax did you pay this year? Have you ever paid any wealth tax, if yes, how much? How much did your wife/daughters spend in jewellery and clothes? Are you a bank defaulter? How much did you give away in charity? And to whom? How many sarkari Umrahs and Hajj have you performed to date? How many properties have you acquired in the last 20 years? How many cars have you bought in the last 10 years? List all the movable property items you own? How many times did you use your influence to help your children or your relatives in promotions/admissions to colleges at the expense of others who merited them? How many times have you willfully broken the law? How many times have you lied while under oath? How many times have you misused your official perks for your private gain? How many gifts have you received in lieu of giving undue favours? Have you ever taken a bribe or given one? How may jobs have you given away to your friends and family members? Have you ever committed fraud? Have you ever embezzled government money or property? Have you indulged in horse trading?”
Babar Awan said that billions of rupees loans were waived off from 30 major banks and financial institutions during 1985 and 2003. The credit was borrowed by three big business families, three influential political families and retired army generals, He described the waiving off of these loans as “Mother of the National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO),” and added the record of all those who waived off bank loans was available in the National Assembly.
See who is talking about corruption man who is one of the crooks.Another thing he did not disclosed the names of the accused families saying that media has to find out itself the names of the people accused.On one hand government is blaming media for witch hunt on the other hand inviting media for witch hunting.SHARM TUM KO MAGAR NAHIN AATI>
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Awaam said:
Musharraf and Zardari are one and the same thing. Both US agents posted here to give americans everything they want. In return, they get a license to kill.
You are right brother but it is not just Zardari and Musharaf it is the whole system need to be overhauled. What we need is the people with determination to correct the system punish the crooks and bring all the money back to Pakistan and above all cut off all the diplomatic ties with America.No matter how loyal friend we are at the end of the day we are nothing but bunch of Muslims for Americans.Quran says Jews and Christians are not your friends and last 62 years of relationship with America prove that.
Corruption has penetrated so deep in our society that it is a do or die situation for Pakistan.I do not see any other country more corrupt than Pakistan except some African countries . If our politicians and generals are not corrupt where they got billions of dollars from?
Mr Qadir, the PS to the State Minister of Interior Tasnim Qureshi, has been arrested and is in FIA custody charged with receiving US $ 2000 in bribe for every prohibited bore license – in total charged with receiving $ 276,000 for 138 pieces of weapons. Inter-Risk allegedly obtained these 138 licenses for the banned weapons against bribes to Interior Ministry personnel. With these new revelations, the Inter-Risk-DynCorp saga continues to get murkier and creates a picture where the US embassy, personnel of the Interior Ministry and Inter-Risk are all interlinked at multiple levels. After all, it was the US embassy’s deputy Chief of Mission who, in October, issued a statement in a press conference insisting that the licence of Inter-Risk had not been cancelled. This led the Interior Ministry to issue a statement the next day confirming that in fact this licence had been cancelled.
But clearly official security circles are shocked to see the extent of the breach of Pakistan’s internal security to the extent that the banned activities of Inter-Risk and US defence contractor DynCorp are still being carried out thanks to the immense influence being exercised by US diplomats on the government in Islamabad.
Above is a excerption of a story in THENATION it tells us how our own people playing in the hands of our worst enemy for the lust of money.It reminds me the words of Gen Shahid Aziz that corruption is responsible for terrorism in Pakistan.
Recently some letters have appeared in these columns where our current rulers have been classified clowns, jesters and jokers. Initially I did not agree to the notion of our respected rulers being called clowns or some such. But some recent statements by some of these rulers have forced me to change my mind; our Minister for Power had threatened to file a defamation case of Rs. 10 million against Faisal Saleh Hayat. But he has not done so, at least not so far. Our Ambassador to the US had also threatened The Nation with a defamation claim of Rs. 100 million. He showed no spine to pursue the case, though.
Our Interior Minister said he would resign if the presence of (former) Blackwater in Pakistan is proved. It is established now that they are here but he never resigned. Our Prime Minister said he would resign if the name of his spouse crops up among the NRO beneficiaries. A press report in an English daily from Karachi proved that she borrowed a huge amount from the Agricultural Bank but returned a fraction of it as the rest was written off. Raja Pervez Ashraf has also bragged that if loadshedding does not end by December 31, he would resign. Obviously neither loadshedding would end nor would he resign. -FARHAN ALI KHAN, Lahore, December 1.
Listening corruption stories do not surprise us anymore.All major political leaders military generals and government officials, and common people are engulfed in corruption.What we do is we put blame on others and they reprehend back because no body is clean.With the exception of few people the only people who are honest are those who can not plunder if they have the opportunity they will do the same.
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khochal said:
One thing is obvious that the system in Pakistan circumnavigate around corrupt politicians and generals. They cover each other back pass resolutions and make laws to give safe passage to corrupts to commit crimes and get away with it.
I could not be more agreed than what you said.It is very unfortunate the way things are going in Pakistan. We are surrounded with all kind of dangers but we do not have time to think about it.There is not even single step taken in the right direction. Every PPP leader on TV say one thing that there efforts being made to derail the democracy i want to tell them that if there is somebody trying to derail democracy it is PPP itself.
Good program. In the beginning I was avoiding watching it because of Gen who served under Mush, I was sure he will just praise Mushy and his baigharat generals.
But in deed it is a good program. He did showed his softness towards his institute (like Lahore DHA case, Mush plots etc) but overall he was fair and should get credit for it. I think host was also well prepared.
In another country many heads who have rolled after this program but not in our pure land!!!
کچھ دن پہلے میں نے جمہوریت اور آمریت کا مقابلہ کرتے ہے کہا تھا کہ جمہوریت کوئی مقدس گائے نہیں ھے لیکن یہ آمریت سے ہزار درجے بہتر ھے. کیسے؟ میں آپکو ایک مثال دیکر واضع کرنے کی کوشش کرتا ہوں. جمہوری نظام ایک ایسے تالاب کی طرح ہوتا ھے جسکا پانی بلکل صاف اور شفاف ہوتا ھے اور جسمیں آپکو خوبصورت مچھلیاں اور بد صورت کچھوے صاف دکھائی دیتے ہیں. عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کو اس تالاب کے پاس جانے اور جھانک کر اندر دیکھنے کی آزادی ہوتی ھے. آپ چاہیں تو پانی گندہ کرنے والے کچھووں کو نکال باہر پھینک سکتے ہیں اور یہ آپکے دائرہ اختیار میں ھے. جبکہ آمریت ایک ایسے تالاب کی طرح ھے جسکا پانی گدلا ہوتا ھے. آپکو پتہ ہی نہیں ہوتا کہ پانی کے اندر کیا ہو رہا ہے، کونسی خوبصورت مچھلی ھے اور کونسا بد صورت کچھوا ھے. تالاب سے بد صورت کچھووں کو باہر نکال پھینکنا تو دور کی بات عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کو اس تالاب کے پاس جانے اور جھانک کر اندر دیکھنے کی بھی آزادی نہیں ہوتی ھے. جمھوریت میں آپ گندے حکمرانوں کو اپنے ووٹ سے یا اپنے پر زور اعتجاج سے یا عدلیہ کے ذریعے حکومت سے باہر نکال سکتے ہیں لیکن آمریت میں آپ حکمرانوں کے پاس نہیں پھڑک سکتے اور نہ ہی انہیں گھر بھیج سکتے ہیں. این آر او کی مثال لے لیں. ایک آمر نے اسے جاری کیا لیکن عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کے اعتجاج کے باوجود اسے نافذ کیا گیا اب ایک جمہوری حکومت اپنی بھر پور کوشش کے باوجود عوام کے دباو کی وجہ اسے پارلیمنٹ سے پاس کروانا تو دور کی بات اسے پارلیمنٹ میں پیش بھی نہ کر سکی. آپ نے پرزور اعتجاج کرکے ججوں کو بحال کروا لیا. یہ فرق ھے جمہوریت اور آمریت میں
یہ سب جمہوریت ہی کی برکتیں ہیں کہ آج آپ این آر او کے تحت فائدہ اٹھانے والے تمل افراد آپ کے سامنے ہیں. آج اربوں کے قرضے معاف کروانے والے آپ کے سامنے ہیں اور آج سوئس بنک اکاونٹس کے ریکارڈ غائب کر نے والے آپکے سامنے ہیں. یہ سب لوگ نہ صرف آپ کے سامنے ہیں بلکہ بہت جلد قانون کے شکنجے میں جکڑے جانے والے ہیں. کیا ان سب انکشافات کا تصور آپ آمرانہ دور میں کر سکتے تھے. آج میرے ان دوستوں کی زبانیں گنگ ہونگی جو جمہوریت کا بستر گول کرنے اور آمریت کو جمہوریت پر فوقیت دینے کی حمایت کرتے تھے اور جو کہتے تھے کہ ہمیں جمھوریت نہیں گڈ گورنس چاہئیے. اگر کمزور اور نحیف جمہوریت یہ کارنامے سر انجام دے سکتی ہے تو ذرا مضبوط جمہوریت کا تصور ذہن میں لائیے. جمہوریت ہی پاکستان، پاکستانی عوام اور ہماری آنے والی نسلوں کے روشن مستقبل کی ضمانت دے سکتی ہے.
جن حرام زادوں کا منہ کالا کرکے گدھے پر بٹھا کر جوتے مارنے چاہئیے تھے انہیں ٹی وی پر بلا کر لوگوں کو انکی باتیں سننے پر مجبور کیا جاتا ہے. کس ڈھٹائی سے حرامی کہ رہا ہے کم وزیر اعظم ہاؤس پر حملے کے لیے ٹروپس میں نے بھیجے تھے. شرم نہیں آتی ایسے بےغیرت لوگوں کو ٹی وی پر آکر باتیں کرتے ہوئے. یہ لوگ اپنے ملک پر قبضہ کرنے پر کتنا فخر محسوس کرتے ہیں
خودکش حملے سے قبل امریکی سفارتخانے کا اہلکار نیول ہیڈ کوارٹر کی نگرانی کرتا رہا
اسلام آ باد (نیشن رپورٹ) اسلام آ باد میں نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز پر خودکش حملے سے چند روز قبل امریکی سفارت خانے کا اہلکار اس جگہ کی نگرانی کرتا رہا۔ نیشن کے مطابق 18 نومبر کو امریکی سفارتخانے کے ملازم عبدالغفور کو نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز کی نگرانی کرتے ہوئے نیول پولیس نے پکڑ لیا تھا۔ عبدالغفور کے زیر استعمال موٹر سائیکل کی نمبر پلیٹ جعلی تھی اور اس کی چیسز نمبر بھی تبدیل کئے گئے تھے۔ اس شخص کے پاس سے ایک کیمرہ بھی برآمد ہوا تھا لیکن پولیس نے اس شخص کے خلاف جاسوسی کا مقدمہ درج کرنے کے بجائے صرف جعلی کاغذات رکھنے کا مقدمہ درج کیا جبکہ نیوی کے حکام اس کے خلاف جاسوسی کا مقدمہ درج کرانا چاہتے تھے۔ دریں اثناء پاکستان بحریہ کے مطابق نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز پر حملے میں 3 افراد ملوث تھے‘ جن میں سے 2 فرار ہو گئے تھے جبکہ تیسرے نے حودکش حملہ کر دیا تھا۔ جبکہ پولیس نے خودکش حملہ آور کا خاکہ تیار کر لیا ہے‘ اس کی عمر 18 برس تھی اور وہ افغان شہری دکھائی دیتا تھا
Listen to him carefully as the news appeared about plain on tv, army moved simultaneously to takeover, which he said was a military operation he handled, as ordered by Gen Muhammad aziz. It was all pre-planned to overthrough the then government in 1999 by Gen Musharraf.
Total crap…….. When ever army dictator is ruling country we don’t hear these kind of “facts”, we only hear that India is our best friend, US is big brother etc. As soon as political government comes into power, India becomes our enemy, Pak army hates US but civilian govt is US puppet. When will these corrupt generals stop.
This respected general says army wasn’t involved in any bad thing during Musharaf era, come on! Musharaf wasn’t police chief, is there any army general or other officer who resigned against Musharaf wrong doings. This army gave him safe passage to go abroad and live luxurious life. Along with politicians army is the core problem of this country.
@ Atique Khan
excellent program. Nadeem should bring Gen. Shahid back sometime. i dont think he covered everything this time round.
کس بے غیرت کو آپ سننا چاہتے ہیں؟ جس میں اتنی اخلاقی جرات نہیں تھی کہ وہ مشرف کی ناجائز مداخلت پر استیفاء دے دیتا. اسکی بجائے اس نے چھٹی پر جانا پسند کیا. سب جرنیل حرامی ہوتے ہیں اور سب اندر سے ایک ہوتے ہیں. یہ سیاستداں ہی ہیں تو ایک دوسرے کی ٹانگ کھینچنے کا کوئی موقع ہاتھ سے جانے نہیں دیتےاور اپنے ہی ادارے کو کمزور کرتے ہیں
Bawa, I completely agree with you, and I am surprised that everyone ,who posted here liked this bloody general.
Jacobabad airport was ( or may be still, I don’t know) was totally controlled by American and our Generals did’t know about it and could’t do any thing. America’s ships used our waters near Gawader and brought tanks and other arsenals, and our ‘General’ went there next day to confirm it and still could’t do any thing because it was not done on army’s approval, but only approved by Musharraf.
I have no words to show my hate towards this general. Bawa please help.
@ Mulla Omar
I have no words to show my hate towards this general. Bawa please help.
بول، کہ لب آزاد ہیں تیرے
بول، زباں اب تک تیری ہے
تیرا ستواں جسم ہے تیرا
بول، کہ جان اب تک تیری ہے
بول، یہ تھوڑا وقت بہت ہے
جسم و زباں کی موت سے پہلے
بول، کہ سچ زندہ ہے اب تک
بول، جو کچھ کہنا ہے کہہ لے
when in uniform these Generals lose their nuts, those balls just disappear from their crouches and when they retire it grows back for such interviews and programs.
remind you these generals are mostly without balls even when they take of uniform because GHQ can cancel their plots/house and agricultural land any time.
A Must Watch my friends.
After watching this programme read this story
http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=92576
you will know what is going to happen now.
@tariqhussain
Mr 10% and Co will so anything to save they skin, i wonder if Mr 10% had something to do with the accident of CJ motorcade yesterday.
Gen Shahid Aziz has not named General Zarar Zamin who sold lands of lahore DHA. He had also not named those Musharraf’s generals and cabinet of shaukat aziz who sold lands of Gwadar. Tell the whole truth.
@aftab said:
There is no doubt that Zardari is the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan after Musharraf. But show no sympathy with those who sold Pakistani nationals to Americans for 9 years. They all need to be punished for looting, killing and selling Pakistan and Pakistanis.
@sadiqahmed
I agree with you that they all need to be held accountable on they misdeeds with our nation.
Zardari and leading other politicians and generals are so corrupt and involved in controversial acts that sometime one fears about the future of this country.
Gen Shahid Aziz has mentioned so many cases where Gen Musharraf and his group was involved in above mentioned issues, but to no avail. He is a general and cannot be questioned.
Then comes political elite which claimed to undo wrongs of Musharraf but committed even more crimes.
Now who would come and lead this poor nation which is suffering only due to one reason that our people accept such “Madari” leaders.
unbelievable…
For all those who are in love with present political class, this is an eye opener.
We will fail on all acconts; governenece, transparency, economy and social justice till we deal with corruption. Who will do it?
simple answer: someone who doest not have any charges against him,who does not need an NRO, who does not own any sugar,steel,DHA plots………..
Is Imran khan the answer,only time will tell………but i sincerely wish we have someone who can cleanse the system. This system perpetuates corruption, it shunts out cleans people and renders them ineffective……
Musharraf and Zardari are one and the same thing. Both US agents posted here to give americans everything they want. In return, they get a license to kill.
An eye opening show.It revealed lots of facts.If such programme would have aired in a western democratic society it was going to bring a big uproar but here in Pakistan it is just another day.At the end of the day the only argument we will hear is that these are politically motivated cases.
The record of Swiss case has been shifted to England covertly. Pakistani high commissioner and close friend of Zardari received the documents. President,s spoke person is denying it but that is no surprise. Our leaders are so corrupt they do not have time to think about Pakistan or its people because they are so busy to nullifying the evidence against them they do n0t care about the people of Pakistan.
Brilliant. I never thought I would ever praise a general, serving or retired. But if this man is telling the truth it just goes to show how corrupt and incompetent Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz were. Just amazing confession. He should write a book.
Hats off to Nadeem Malik
Gen Shahid Aziz unfolded lot of secrets one very disturbing secret he disclosed was the import of malformed and vitiate deasel . And it is a almost 90 billions rupees fraud every year. We can just pray to God to bless Pakistan with honest leader ship otherwise i do not see any hope.It also tells us that why some people are so rich and where the money come from and why oil import is in the government control.
One thing is obvious that the system in Pakistan circumnavigate around corrupt politicians and generals. They cover each other back pass resolutions and make laws to give safe passage to corrupts to commit crimes and get away with it. Now it is no secret that why people of Pakistan are deprived ,why Balochistan is neglected because small group of greedy people want to keep all the resources of Pakistan in their hands.
Famous writer and journalist on 1-12-2009 in an article in THENEWS daily formed 22 points to answer to check the honesty of our politicians under the name of CATCH_22. These are very thoughtful 22 points. They put all the onus on politicians and generals to prove their innocence and honesty government do not have to spend billions of rupees on investigations.Here are the points.
“Are you an American citizen; a British subject; a green card holder? Are you of sound mind and body? Have you lied about your academic degrees? How much income tax did you pay this year? Have you ever paid any wealth tax, if yes, how much? How much did your wife/daughters spend in jewellery and clothes? Are you a bank defaulter? How much did you give away in charity? And to whom? How many sarkari Umrahs and Hajj have you performed to date? How many properties have you acquired in the last 20 years? How many cars have you bought in the last 10 years? List all the movable property items you own? How many times did you use your influence to help your children or your relatives in promotions/admissions to colleges at the expense of others who merited them? How many times have you willfully broken the law? How many times have you lied while under oath? How many times have you misused your official perks for your private gain? How many gifts have you received in lieu of giving undue favours? Have you ever taken a bribe or given one? How may jobs have you given away to your friends and family members? Have you ever committed fraud? Have you ever embezzled government money or property? Have you indulged in horse trading?”
Babar Awan said that billions of rupees loans were waived off from 30 major banks and financial institutions during 1985 and 2003. The credit was borrowed by three big business families, three influential political families and retired army generals, He described the waiving off of these loans as “Mother of the National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO),” and added the record of all those who waived off bank loans was available in the National Assembly.
See who is talking about corruption man who is one of the crooks.Another thing he did not disclosed the names of the accused families saying that media has to find out itself the names of the people accused.On one hand government is blaming media for witch hunt on the other hand inviting media for witch hunting.SHARM TUM KO MAGAR NAHIN AATI>
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Awaam said:
Musharraf and Zardari are one and the same thing. Both US agents posted here to give americans everything they want. In return, they get a license to kill.
You are right brother but it is not just Zardari and Musharaf it is the whole system need to be overhauled. What we need is the people with determination to correct the system punish the crooks and bring all the money back to Pakistan and above all cut off all the diplomatic ties with America.No matter how loyal friend we are at the end of the day we are nothing but bunch of Muslims for Americans.Quran says Jews and Christians are not your friends and last 62 years of relationship with America prove that.
Corruption has penetrated so deep in our society that it is a do or die situation for Pakistan.I do not see any other country more corrupt than Pakistan except some African countries . If our politicians and generals are not corrupt where they got billions of dollars from?
Mr Qadir, the PS to the State Minister of Interior Tasnim Qureshi, has been arrested and is in FIA custody charged with receiving US $ 2000 in bribe for every prohibited bore license – in total charged with receiving $ 276,000 for 138 pieces of weapons. Inter-Risk allegedly obtained these 138 licenses for the banned weapons against bribes to Interior Ministry personnel. With these new revelations, the Inter-Risk-DynCorp saga continues to get murkier and creates a picture where the US embassy, personnel of the Interior Ministry and Inter-Risk are all interlinked at multiple levels. After all, it was the US embassy’s deputy Chief of Mission who, in October, issued a statement in a press conference insisting that the licence of Inter-Risk had not been cancelled. This led the Interior Ministry to issue a statement the next day confirming that in fact this licence had been cancelled.
But clearly official security circles are shocked to see the extent of the breach of Pakistan’s internal security to the extent that the banned activities of Inter-Risk and US defence contractor DynCorp are still being carried out thanks to the immense influence being exercised by US diplomats on the government in Islamabad.
Above is a excerption of a story in THENATION it tells us how our own people playing in the hands of our worst enemy for the lust of money.It reminds me the words of Gen Shahid Aziz that corruption is responsible for terrorism in Pakistan.
Recently some letters have appeared in these columns where our current rulers have been classified clowns, jesters and jokers. Initially I did not agree to the notion of our respected rulers being called clowns or some such. But some recent statements by some of these rulers have forced me to change my mind; our Minister for Power had threatened to file a defamation case of Rs. 10 million against Faisal Saleh Hayat. But he has not done so, at least not so far. Our Ambassador to the US had also threatened The Nation with a defamation claim of Rs. 100 million. He showed no spine to pursue the case, though.
Our Interior Minister said he would resign if the presence of (former) Blackwater in Pakistan is proved. It is established now that they are here but he never resigned. Our Prime Minister said he would resign if the name of his spouse crops up among the NRO beneficiaries. A press report in an English daily from Karachi proved that she borrowed a huge amount from the Agricultural Bank but returned a fraction of it as the rest was written off. Raja Pervez Ashraf has also bragged that if loadshedding does not end by December 31, he would resign. Obviously neither loadshedding would end nor would he resign. -FARHAN ALI KHAN, Lahore, December 1.
Listening corruption stories do not surprise us anymore.All major political leaders military generals and government officials, and common people are engulfed in corruption.What we do is we put blame on others and they reprehend back because no body is clean.With the exception of few people the only people who are honest are those who can not plunder if they have the opportunity they will do the same.
To,
khochal said:
One thing is obvious that the system in Pakistan circumnavigate around corrupt politicians and generals. They cover each other back pass resolutions and make laws to give safe passage to corrupts to commit crimes and get away with it.
I could not be more agreed than what you said.It is very unfortunate the way things are going in Pakistan. We are surrounded with all kind of dangers but we do not have time to think about it.There is not even single step taken in the right direction. Every PPP leader on TV say one thing that there efforts being made to derail the democracy i want to tell them that if there is somebody trying to derail democracy it is PPP itself.
Must watch to get corruption facts and details of what Mush did with Pakistan.
Good program. In the beginning I was avoiding watching it because of Gen who served under Mush, I was sure he will just praise Mushy and his baigharat generals.
But in deed it is a good program. He did showed his softness towards his institute (like Lahore DHA case, Mush plots etc) but overall he was fair and should get credit for it. I think host was also well prepared.
In another country many heads who have rolled after this program but not in our pure land!!!
کچھ دن پہلے میں نے جمہوریت اور آمریت کا مقابلہ کرتے ہے کہا تھا کہ جمہوریت کوئی مقدس گائے نہیں ھے لیکن یہ آمریت سے ہزار درجے بہتر ھے. کیسے؟ میں آپکو ایک مثال دیکر واضع کرنے کی کوشش کرتا ہوں. جمہوری نظام ایک ایسے تالاب کی طرح ہوتا ھے جسکا پانی بلکل صاف اور شفاف ہوتا ھے اور جسمیں آپکو خوبصورت مچھلیاں اور بد صورت کچھوے صاف دکھائی دیتے ہیں. عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کو اس تالاب کے پاس جانے اور جھانک کر اندر دیکھنے کی آزادی ہوتی ھے. آپ چاہیں تو پانی گندہ کرنے والے کچھووں کو نکال باہر پھینک سکتے ہیں اور یہ آپکے دائرہ اختیار میں ھے. جبکہ آمریت ایک ایسے تالاب کی طرح ھے جسکا پانی گدلا ہوتا ھے. آپکو پتہ ہی نہیں ہوتا کہ پانی کے اندر کیا ہو رہا ہے، کونسی خوبصورت مچھلی ھے اور کونسا بد صورت کچھوا ھے. تالاب سے بد صورت کچھووں کو باہر نکال پھینکنا تو دور کی بات عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کو اس تالاب کے پاس جانے اور جھانک کر اندر دیکھنے کی بھی آزادی نہیں ہوتی ھے. جمھوریت میں آپ گندے حکمرانوں کو اپنے ووٹ سے یا اپنے پر زور اعتجاج سے یا عدلیہ کے ذریعے حکومت سے باہر نکال سکتے ہیں لیکن آمریت میں آپ حکمرانوں کے پاس نہیں پھڑک سکتے اور نہ ہی انہیں گھر بھیج سکتے ہیں. این آر او کی مثال لے لیں. ایک آمر نے اسے جاری کیا لیکن عوام، میڈیا، عدلیہ اور انسانی حقوق کی تنظیموں کے اعتجاج کے باوجود اسے نافذ کیا گیا اب ایک جمہوری حکومت اپنی بھر پور کوشش کے باوجود عوام کے دباو کی وجہ اسے پارلیمنٹ سے پاس کروانا تو دور کی بات اسے پارلیمنٹ میں پیش بھی نہ کر سکی. آپ نے پرزور اعتجاج کرکے ججوں کو بحال کروا لیا. یہ فرق ھے جمہوریت اور آمریت میں
یہ سب جمہوریت ہی کی برکتیں ہیں کہ آج آپ این آر او کے تحت فائدہ اٹھانے والے تمل افراد آپ کے سامنے ہیں. آج اربوں کے قرضے معاف کروانے والے آپ کے سامنے ہیں اور آج سوئس بنک اکاونٹس کے ریکارڈ غائب کر نے والے آپکے سامنے ہیں. یہ سب لوگ نہ صرف آپ کے سامنے ہیں بلکہ بہت جلد قانون کے شکنجے میں جکڑے جانے والے ہیں. کیا ان سب انکشافات کا تصور آپ آمرانہ دور میں کر سکتے تھے. آج میرے ان دوستوں کی زبانیں گنگ ہونگی جو جمہوریت کا بستر گول کرنے اور آمریت کو جمہوریت پر فوقیت دینے کی حمایت کرتے تھے اور جو کہتے تھے کہ ہمیں جمھوریت نہیں گڈ گورنس چاہئیے. اگر کمزور اور نحیف جمہوریت یہ کارنامے سر انجام دے سکتی ہے تو ذرا مضبوط جمہوریت کا تصور ذہن میں لائیے. جمہوریت ہی پاکستان، پاکستانی عوام اور ہماری آنے والی نسلوں کے روشن مستقبل کی ضمانت دے سکتی ہے.
جمہوریت زندہ باد
پاکستان پایندہ باد
جن حرام زادوں کا منہ کالا کرکے گدھے پر بٹھا کر جوتے مارنے چاہئیے تھے انہیں ٹی وی پر بلا کر لوگوں کو انکی باتیں سننے پر مجبور کیا جاتا ہے. کس ڈھٹائی سے حرامی کہ رہا ہے کم وزیر اعظم ہاؤس پر حملے کے لیے ٹروپس میں نے بھیجے تھے. شرم نہیں آتی ایسے بےغیرت لوگوں کو ٹی وی پر آکر باتیں کرتے ہوئے. یہ لوگ اپنے ملک پر قبضہ کرنے پر کتنا فخر محسوس کرتے ہیں
خودکش حملے سے قبل امریکی سفارتخانے کا اہلکار نیول ہیڈ کوارٹر کی نگرانی کرتا رہا
اسلام آ باد (نیشن رپورٹ) اسلام آ باد میں نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز پر خودکش حملے سے چند روز قبل امریکی سفارت خانے کا اہلکار اس جگہ کی نگرانی کرتا رہا۔ نیشن کے مطابق 18 نومبر کو امریکی سفارتخانے کے ملازم عبدالغفور کو نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز کی نگرانی کرتے ہوئے نیول پولیس نے پکڑ لیا تھا۔ عبدالغفور کے زیر استعمال موٹر سائیکل کی نمبر پلیٹ جعلی تھی اور اس کی چیسز نمبر بھی تبدیل کئے گئے تھے۔ اس شخص کے پاس سے ایک کیمرہ بھی برآمد ہوا تھا لیکن پولیس نے اس شخص کے خلاف جاسوسی کا مقدمہ درج کرنے کے بجائے صرف جعلی کاغذات رکھنے کا مقدمہ درج کیا جبکہ نیوی کے حکام اس کے خلاف جاسوسی کا مقدمہ درج کرانا چاہتے تھے۔ دریں اثناء پاکستان بحریہ کے مطابق نیول ہیڈ کوارٹرز پر حملے میں 3 افراد ملوث تھے‘ جن میں سے 2 فرار ہو گئے تھے جبکہ تیسرے نے حودکش حملہ کر دیا تھا۔ جبکہ پولیس نے خودکش حملہ آور کا خاکہ تیار کر لیا ہے‘ اس کی عمر 18 برس تھی اور وہ افغان شہری دکھائی دیتا تھا
excellent program. Nadeem should bring Gen. Shahid back sometime. i dont think he covered everything this time round.
excellent programme ………….
Listen to him carefully as the news appeared about plain on tv, army moved simultaneously to takeover, which he said was a military operation he handled, as ordered by Gen Muhammad aziz. It was all pre-planned to overthrough the then government in 1999 by Gen Musharraf.
Total crap…….. When ever army dictator is ruling country we don’t hear these kind of “facts”, we only hear that India is our best friend, US is big brother etc. As soon as political government comes into power, India becomes our enemy, Pak army hates US but civilian govt is US puppet. When will these corrupt generals stop.
This respected general says army wasn’t involved in any bad thing during Musharaf era, come on! Musharaf wasn’t police chief, is there any army general or other officer who resigned against Musharaf wrong doings. This army gave him safe passage to go abroad and live luxurious life. Along with politicians army is the core problem of this country.
How could this General say that action against Nawaz was an operation.
It is because of these pathetic generals we are in this situation today.
Its not zardari who started this war
its not zardari who is responsible for GHQ Security
It is not zardari who attacked lal masjid
it is not zardari who raped supreme court
the only person who was the second most powerfull was GENERAL ASHFAQ PERVAIZ KIYANI.
Zardari should sack this criminal chief of army staff 1st.
@ Atique Khan
excellent program. Nadeem should bring Gen. Shahid back sometime. i dont think he covered everything this time round.
کس بے غیرت کو آپ سننا چاہتے ہیں؟ جس میں اتنی اخلاقی جرات نہیں تھی کہ وہ مشرف کی ناجائز مداخلت پر استیفاء دے دیتا. اسکی بجائے اس نے چھٹی پر جانا پسند کیا. سب جرنیل حرامی ہوتے ہیں اور سب اندر سے ایک ہوتے ہیں. یہ سیاستداں ہی ہیں تو ایک دوسرے کی ٹانگ کھینچنے کا کوئی موقع ہاتھ سے جانے نہیں دیتےاور اپنے ہی ادارے کو کمزور کرتے ہیں
Bawa, I completely agree with you, and I am surprised that everyone ,who posted here liked this bloody general.
Jacobabad airport was ( or may be still, I don’t know) was totally controlled by American and our Generals did’t know about it and could’t do any thing. America’s ships used our waters near Gawader and brought tanks and other arsenals, and our ‘General’ went there next day to confirm it and still could’t do any thing because it was not done on army’s approval, but only approved by Musharraf.
I have no words to show my hate towards this general. Bawa please help.
@ Mulla Omar
I have no words to show my hate towards this general. Bawa please help.
بول، کہ لب آزاد ہیں تیرے
بول، زباں اب تک تیری ہے
تیرا ستواں جسم ہے تیرا
بول، کہ جان اب تک تیری ہے
بول، یہ تھوڑا وقت بہت ہے
جسم و زباں کی موت سے پہلے
بول، کہ سچ زندہ ہے اب تک
بول، جو کچھ کہنا ہے کہہ لے
when in uniform these Generals lose their nuts, those balls just disappear from their crouches and when they retire it grows back for such interviews and programs.
remind you these generals are mostly without balls even when they take of uniform because GHQ can cancel their plots/house and agricultural land any time.
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