Nadeem Malik brings fresh episode of Islamabad Tonight discussing suicide bombing with Justice Khalil Ur Rehman, Dr. Israr Ahmad and Justice Taqi Usamani.
Dr Israr in the very beginning issued Fatwa that no Muslim can call another Muslim “Munafik” and at the end he labeled Zia ul Haq as Munafiq.
Is this hypocrisy , I believe it is and remember I am not at all fan of any Zia or any other General or dictator. and at the end he labeled every one Kafir in this government and other people.
I believe definition of Kafir is who does not believe in One God and Muhammad as its last messenger. Rest is all niceties of religion.
These Mullahs do not know what they are talking about. So it is advised to read Quran yourself and understand it , all of you are educated and can understand Quran is my advise.
These Mullahs are not only drowning Pakistan into an abyss, they have defamed Islam as well. It is because of them that today Muslims have become a pariah throughout the world. It is time to take the religion back from these hypocrites. Where is an Atta Turk when you need one!
to my bro socrates u said( I believe definition of Kafir is who does not believe in One God and Muhammad as its last messenger)the arabic word kafir means the one who disobeyed,for example if your father told u go to school and u didnt u did suffer with your father, let me give u a reference from QURAAN(SURA-AL-BAKKRA)when ALLAHA told satan to do a sajda to adamm he did not than ALLAHA told him u did kuffer,let me tell u sha taan still believes in ALLAHA,shaitan never said i dont believe in u but he disobeyed that why he was called kaffir and and given some extra powers till the end.so anyone on this earth disobeyed ALLAHA is kaffir,and u said something about MUNAFIQS,we the 17 corer so call muslim super power(ha ha)r the biggest MUNFIQ nation on earth ALLAHA said in QURAAN to munafiqs i will put shame on your forehead in this world and put u in deepest HELL after remember ALLAHA did not use these words for mushrekeen or shaitan so brother rather than telling others to read QURAAN and under stand i think u should start first.my brother MAKKA& pakistan was the only 2 places in the world were made in the da name of ALLAHA look at pakistan u think is ALLAHA ‘S LAWS r applied in this place we call pakistan tell me if im wrong may ALLAHA give us al hadyaat,remember ALLAHA made us munafiqs a promise and he wil keep his word
To,
socratese said:
Is this hypocrisy , I believe it is and remember I am not at all fan of any Zia or any other General or dictator. and at the end he labeled every one Kafir in this government and other people.
I watched the whole programme he did not called KAFIR to the current regime. Your definition of KAFIR is also wrong.Read MOMMEN comments and you will learn who KAFIR is in Islam.You are educated too and i will advise you to learn Quran and more importantly try to understand it before making your own commentary of Qurans ordains.
Let me correct you it is us who have given Islam in the hands of mullah.We go to school,college and university for twenty years but we do not spare even few months to learn our religion.Maximum what we do is learn how to read Quran ,is that enough? It is our fault if today Islam is in the hands of mullahs because we do not have time for Islam but every thing else.It has become fashion to put the blame on mullah for all the misconceptions about Islam.you said Muslims have become pariah in the world so let me tell you they became pariah after 9/11 and i am sure you heard what Dr Israr said about crusade planning.9/11 was not planned by any mullah.Dont be ashamed of your religion be proud.
Thank you for explaining the true meanings of Kafir and Munafiq.Unfortunately lot of our Muslim brothers have no knowledge about Islam commandments but they fell obligatory to talk about it.Normally they try to interpret Islam how they see it or understand it.Islam is religion of every Muslim not just mullahs why do not we learn Islam our selves instead of criticizing mullahs.
Dr Israr has vast knowledge about Islam as well other religions.Normally our religious scholars stick with Islamic teachings only.I think there should be another one 9on one programme with Dr Israr and he should be asked questions about apocalypse and armageddon.How Islam see the crusade and what our prophet said about last days of the world.
Once again four Americans were held in Lahore carrying illegal weapons and fake number plates and tinted glass,Once again they were released with the interference of US councellor in Lahore.It is really matter of great concern to let these people go after Moon Market bomb blast in Lahore .These people should have been investigated before letting go.Our government is so coaxing and fawning towards Americans that our country has become a colony of America.The worst part of the story is that these Americans did not cooperate with authorities and they were very scolding and disrespectful to our security people.
I agree all of you on this forum are religious scholars and biggest Momins. I have no such claim. I am not ordering any one to read Quran just suggesting to read and understand and i can see what happens when you read it yourself immediately like mushroom there are half cooked maulvees started preaching islam , it is for people like on this forum that you must study Quran under guidance otherwise for sure you will be strayed as we are seeing what is happening in Pakistan, people like you are all involved in madness, also neither I am claiming like you guys that I understand complete Quran nor I am throwing references out of context from Quran since I am not an expert of that.
Just chill I was pointing out the hypocracy of Dr Israr, I know he is great religuous scholar but when these Maulvees start talking they have no control over their tongue.
Dealing with problem of extremism with guns only is not the solution.There is so much injustice in our society ,rich is getting richer and poor poorer.The crux of Islam is justice which is nullified from our elite for common people.One of the main reason or may be the only reason behind young fellows going astray and playing in the hands of miscreants is injustice.It is very important to spread the message that suicide bombing is HARAM but at the same time it is very important to talk to these deprived people and make them feel that they are part of the society.It is time to bring them in main stream.
Message that comes out is more important. All three guests highly regarded and have huge following, I don’t want to discuss who is good or bad, but they have influence.
So, that one line message should be promoted on this forum, which says suicide attacks are haram in Pakistan.
This is in our interest to save our future to save our loved ones to spread this message across. At least we should agree on this single point.
PK Politics Administration I would suggest your organization should also spread this word it would help every human being. Take it in the national spirit and highlight the core message.
There are so many people in Pakistan and in other Muslim countries who believe or at least they say it that Osama Bin Laden is responsible for 9/11.These are the people who have so much knowledge about Taliban activities but they do not know the intentions of Christians and Jews.I think they know but can not say it for personal gains.There is not even one person in the whole of west who says that their own people are responsible for 9/11.All the voices emanating from west put the blame on Osama and Taliban ignoring all the facts for political reasons.Only Muslims have milksop and impudicus people among them.So called moderate Muslims.
To,
aligul said:
Americans are committing worst crimes against humanity in the name of war against terrorism but they are not ashamed of them selves.But here are people like aligul who are ashamed for no reason.Muslims are pariah in the world because of propaganda and hate.If you do not believe me take the example of Switserland.If such a result of any survey had come out in some Muslim country we were going to hear a uproar against Islam from the west and people like you were going to be ashamed.Go and read today Washington Post and see the opinion of common people against Islam,you will learn that who is taking his religion in abyss.
There should be a campaign in the media against suicide bombing.Famous Ulamas and religious scholars should come on tv and record their messages that suicide bombing is Haram.All the tv stations should run these messages occasionally.These messages especially should be relayed in tribal areas.
Blaming and condemning suicide bombers is right thing to do but at the same time we should not forget Musharaf and his companions who put this country in to chaos by making foolish decisions to please Americans.Musharaf is banishing around but his companions are here trying to play good guys.For example it is no secrete any more that the name of corruption bill NRO was proposed by Ch Shujat Hussain why he is walking free ? his brother another Pervez looted billions of rupees as chief minister.He owes billions of rupees loans.Dr Sher Afgan Niazi,Faisal Saleh Hayat they are all responsible to support Musharaf a dictator and his wrong decisions.There should be demand to put these people behind bar so no body in the future ever even think to support a dictator.
19:45 , Dr Israr telling no muslim or momen call each other Munafiq.
then at 34:20 called Zia Munafiq, who is dead too and can not defend himself.
then at 35:30 telling what is the reason to be called Kafir and is the reason that some yahoos are following and creating havoc in the country and is the reason they believe that this government is Kafir.
you can see that same mentality persists among so called literate society of Pakistan too who are ready to label other as Kafir.
to my brother socrates i beg u in da name of ALLAHA to read listen and under stand the 2nd sura(bakra) and if your soul is still alive u will know about munafiq,i know it is a very long sura but if u spend 1hour daily inshallah it will open your heart.when i say if your soul is still alive i don’t mean any disrespect coz what i have picked from QURAAN is some time a person think he is good and god fearing but when he dies at his good and al da knowledge will b thrown in his face for example there was a person called abdulla-bin -umye,when MOHMMAD (PBUH) used to do da jamaat for namaz bilal used to azzan and he used to do da iqumatt in da end he died as leader of munfiqeens and ALLAHA told MOHMMAD(PBUH)NOT TO READ HIS JANNAZA so my brother dose that tell u some thing that this bad-naseeb used to read namaz behind MOHMMAD(PBUH)and in the end lost it.my brother i know most of ulmmas r not doing rite but u cant blame them i think we r to blame ourselves cos back in da days fathers used to read his son/daughters nikka him self when someones father or mother used to die there sons used to read janaza themselves.if we had knowledge and wil 2 learn and QURAAN this fitna will b gone cos we will kno if mulvees r rite or wrong and mulvee shops will be shut down they cannot mislead us if we dont let them.and if u want to start learning QURAAN than start from DR ISRAR’s web site u will get alot of ppl who dont like him,my mother tongue is arabic and my father’s urdu i kno for fact he wil prove to b a good teacher some time he is harsh but i think some times u hav2
Dr.Israr is a great islamic scholar…!he’s one those few learned scholar tht we have, who just preach true and actual meaning of Islam….and he’z just so straight forward thz is ta reason a lot ov ppl doesnt like him. He nd othr learned scholars like him shd b regularly brought into talk shows, so all confusions nd misconception associated with Islam could b highlighted nd appropriately addressed.
A Must Watch Programme for all.
Suicide attacks are haram in Pakistan. Need to spread their message across. Dr. Israr is impressive and logical. Good to watch.
Very special programme on what we all face today.
Excellent programme, a must watch for all
Dr Israr in the very beginning issued Fatwa that no Muslim can call another Muslim “Munafik” and at the end he labeled Zia ul Haq as Munafiq.
Is this hypocrisy , I believe it is and remember I am not at all fan of any Zia or any other General or dictator. and at the end he labeled every one Kafir in this government and other people.
I believe definition of Kafir is who does not believe in One God and Muhammad as its last messenger. Rest is all niceties of religion.
These Mullahs do not know what they are talking about. So it is advised to read Quran yourself and understand it , all of you are educated and can understand Quran is my advise.
These Mullahs are not only drowning Pakistan into an abyss, they have defamed Islam as well. It is because of them that today Muslims have become a pariah throughout the world. It is time to take the religion back from these hypocrites. Where is an Atta Turk when you need one!
to my bro socrates u said( I believe definition of Kafir is who does not believe in One God and Muhammad as its last messenger)the arabic word kafir means the one who disobeyed,for example if your father told u go to school and u didnt u did suffer with your father, let me give u a reference from QURAAN(SURA-AL-BAKKRA)when ALLAHA told satan to do a sajda to adamm he did not than ALLAHA told him u did kuffer,let me tell u sha taan still believes in ALLAHA,shaitan never said i dont believe in u but he disobeyed that why he was called kaffir and and given some extra powers till the end.so anyone on this earth disobeyed ALLAHA is kaffir,and u said something about MUNAFIQS,we the 17 corer so call muslim super power(ha ha)r the biggest MUNFIQ nation on earth ALLAHA said in QURAAN to munafiqs i will put shame on your forehead in this world and put u in deepest HELL after remember ALLAHA did not use these words for mushrekeen or shaitan so brother rather than telling others to read QURAAN and under stand i think u should start first.my brother MAKKA& pakistan was the only 2 places in the world were made in the da name of ALLAHA look at pakistan u think is ALLAHA ‘S LAWS r applied in this place we call pakistan tell me if im wrong may ALLAHA give us al hadyaat,remember ALLAHA made us munafiqs a promise and he wil keep his word
To,
socratese said:
Is this hypocrisy , I believe it is and remember I am not at all fan of any Zia or any other General or dictator. and at the end he labeled every one Kafir in this government and other people.
I watched the whole programme he did not called KAFIR to the current regime. Your definition of KAFIR is also wrong.Read MOMMEN comments and you will learn who KAFIR is in Islam.You are educated too and i will advise you to learn Quran and more importantly try to understand it before making your own commentary of Qurans ordains.
To,
aligul
Let me correct you it is us who have given Islam in the hands of mullah.We go to school,college and university for twenty years but we do not spare even few months to learn our religion.Maximum what we do is learn how to read Quran ,is that enough? It is our fault if today Islam is in the hands of mullahs because we do not have time for Islam but every thing else.It has become fashion to put the blame on mullah for all the misconceptions about Islam.you said Muslims have become pariah in the world so let me tell you they became pariah after 9/11 and i am sure you heard what Dr Israr said about crusade planning.9/11 was not planned by any mullah.Dont be ashamed of your religion be proud.
To,mommen said:
Thank you for explaining the true meanings of Kafir and Munafiq.Unfortunately lot of our Muslim brothers have no knowledge about Islam commandments but they fell obligatory to talk about it.Normally they try to interpret Islam how they see it or understand it.Islam is religion of every Muslim not just mullahs why do not we learn Islam our selves instead of criticizing mullahs.
Dr Israr has vast knowledge about Islam as well other religions.Normally our religious scholars stick with Islamic teachings only.I think there should be another one 9on one programme with Dr Israr and he should be asked questions about apocalypse and armageddon.How Islam see the crusade and what our prophet said about last days of the world.
Once again four Americans were held in Lahore carrying illegal weapons and fake number plates and tinted glass,Once again they were released with the interference of US councellor in Lahore.It is really matter of great concern to let these people go after Moon Market bomb blast in Lahore .These people should have been investigated before letting go.Our government is so coaxing and fawning towards Americans that our country has become a colony of America.The worst part of the story is that these Americans did not cooperate with authorities and they were very scolding and disrespectful to our security people.
all of you just take kool aid.
I agree all of you on this forum are religious scholars and biggest Momins. I have no such claim. I am not ordering any one to read Quran just suggesting to read and understand and i can see what happens when you read it yourself immediately like mushroom there are half cooked maulvees started preaching islam , it is for people like on this forum that you must study Quran under guidance otherwise for sure you will be strayed as we are seeing what is happening in Pakistan, people like you are all involved in madness, also neither I am claiming like you guys that I understand complete Quran nor I am throwing references out of context from Quran since I am not an expert of that.
Just chill I was pointing out the hypocracy of Dr Israr, I know he is great religuous scholar but when these Maulvees start talking they have no control over their tongue.
Dealing with problem of extremism with guns only is not the solution.There is so much injustice in our society ,rich is getting richer and poor poorer.The crux of Islam is justice which is nullified from our elite for common people.One of the main reason or may be the only reason behind young fellows going astray and playing in the hands of miscreants is injustice.It is very important to spread the message that suicide bombing is HARAM but at the same time it is very important to talk to these deprived people and make them feel that they are part of the society.It is time to bring them in main stream.
@mazbootchattan
Very well said.
Message that comes out is more important. All three guests highly regarded and have huge following, I don’t want to discuss who is good or bad, but they have influence.
So, that one line message should be promoted on this forum, which says suicide attacks are haram in Pakistan.
This is in our interest to save our future to save our loved ones to spread this message across. At least we should agree on this single point.
PK Politics Administration I would suggest your organization should also spread this word it would help every human being. Take it in the national spirit and highlight the core message.
There are so many people in Pakistan and in other Muslim countries who believe or at least they say it that Osama Bin Laden is responsible for 9/11.These are the people who have so much knowledge about Taliban activities but they do not know the intentions of Christians and Jews.I think they know but can not say it for personal gains.There is not even one person in the whole of west who says that their own people are responsible for 9/11.All the voices emanating from west put the blame on Osama and Taliban ignoring all the facts for political reasons.Only Muslims have milksop and impudicus people among them.So called moderate Muslims.
To,
aligul said:
Americans are committing worst crimes against humanity in the name of war against terrorism but they are not ashamed of them selves.But here are people like aligul who are ashamed for no reason.Muslims are pariah in the world because of propaganda and hate.If you do not believe me take the example of Switserland.If such a result of any survey had come out in some Muslim country we were going to hear a uproar against Islam from the west and people like you were going to be ashamed.Go and read today Washington Post and see the opinion of common people against Islam,you will learn that who is taking his religion in abyss.
To,
mohibewatan said:
You are very right that is the reason why Pakistan is in the chaos today.Our leader ship is ashamed of being Muslim.
To,
sohnidherti said:
These are people responsible for terrorism in Pakistan and we are fighting with each other.
There should be a campaign in the media against suicide bombing.Famous Ulamas and religious scholars should come on tv and record their messages that suicide bombing is Haram.All the tv stations should run these messages occasionally.These messages especially should be relayed in tribal areas.
Blaming and condemning suicide bombers is right thing to do but at the same time we should not forget Musharaf and his companions who put this country in to chaos by making foolish decisions to please Americans.Musharaf is banishing around but his companions are here trying to play good guys.For example it is no secrete any more that the name of corruption bill NRO was proposed by Ch Shujat Hussain why he is walking free ? his brother another Pervez looted billions of rupees as chief minister.He owes billions of rupees loans.Dr Sher Afgan Niazi,Faisal Saleh Hayat they are all responsible to support Musharaf a dictator and his wrong decisions.There should be demand to put these people behind bar so no body in the future ever even think to support a dictator.
19:45 , Dr Israr telling no muslim or momen call each other Munafiq.
then at 34:20 called Zia Munafiq, who is dead too and can not defend himself.
then at 35:30 telling what is the reason to be called Kafir and is the reason that some yahoos are following and creating havoc in the country and is the reason they believe that this government is Kafir.
you can see that same mentality persists among so called literate society of Pakistan too who are ready to label other as Kafir.
to my brother socrates i beg u in da name of ALLAHA to read listen and under stand the 2nd sura(bakra) and if your soul is still alive u will know about munafiq,i know it is a very long sura but if u spend 1hour daily inshallah it will open your heart.when i say if your soul is still alive i don’t mean any disrespect coz what i have picked from QURAAN is some time a person think he is good and god fearing but when he dies at his good and al da knowledge will b thrown in his face for example there was a person called abdulla-bin -umye,when MOHMMAD (PBUH) used to do da jamaat for namaz bilal used to azzan and he used to do da iqumatt in da end he died as leader of munfiqeens and ALLAHA told MOHMMAD(PBUH)NOT TO READ HIS JANNAZA so my brother dose that tell u some thing that this bad-naseeb used to read namaz behind MOHMMAD(PBUH)and in the end lost it.my brother i know most of ulmmas r not doing rite but u cant blame them i think we r to blame ourselves cos back in da days fathers used to read his son/daughters nikka him self when someones father or mother used to die there sons used to read janaza themselves.if we had knowledge and wil 2 learn and QURAAN this fitna will b gone cos we will kno if mulvees r rite or wrong and mulvee shops will be shut down they cannot mislead us if we dont let them.and if u want to start learning QURAAN than start from DR ISRAR’s web site u will get alot of ppl who dont like him,my mother tongue is arabic and my father’s urdu i kno for fact he wil prove to b a good teacher some time he is harsh but i think some times u hav2
Dr.Israr is a great islamic scholar…!he’s one those few learned scholar tht we have, who just preach true and actual meaning of Islam….and he’z just so straight forward thz is ta reason a lot ov ppl doesnt like him. He nd othr learned scholars like him shd b regularly brought into talk shows, so all confusions nd misconception associated with Islam could b highlighted nd appropriately addressed.
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