……………. and we, the US as a super power, like to use our friends and allies like cond*ms. We use them and then we throw them. Why is Pakistan not proud of it? What a shame!
Hassan, you rock. why dont US and its allies understand a simple point that they cannot defeat the muslims in ‘AFPak’ as we love death more then they love life. Just a futile exercise and we are not going to lay down. You are scared, tired and very soon have to P*ss off. Go home as you miss your pubing and clubing, NA?
A good read for, Admiral Mike Mullen (Chairman US-JCS) and Ambasssador Anne W. Patterson (U.S.)
Chasing Shadows In Pakistan
The truth is that Obama seems to have lost control of the US foreign and defence policies. It is the hawks of the military industrial complex and national security advisers, who ‘war game’ with public lives and resources in alien lands, which dictate US policies. Would Lockheed Martin, manufacturer of Hellfire missiles and General Atomics, and manufacturer of Predator and Reaper drones that fire these missiles, want the war to end?
Would defence contractors Blackwater (Worldwide Xe), DynCorp or Krestal and reconstruction giants Halliburton and Bechtel want the flames of war to extinguish? No, because war is their industry and killing their business. Such corporations, on the other end, finance politicians’ election campaigns.
So wars are lucrative corporate projects.
PM Gilani said a few days ago that troop surge in Afghanistan will destabilise Pakistan, but our superior ally, instead of paying heed to it, has decided to inject more troops. Some of the young soldiers will probably spend their last Christmas at home this year. In this backdrop, the US agenda in Pakistan is not obscure anymore; the superpower intends to stretch the war with drone strikes in Balochistan beside FATA.
The US already knows that the weak-kneed Pak government beholden to it will make superficial noises of little consequence and not much else. This supports the oft-repeated stance that destabilisation activity surrounds the arc: CAS-Afghanistan-FATA-Balochistan (Gwadar). With surge in US/NATO troops in Afghanistan, the region round the arc is likely to boil over.
People are seething with anti-Americanism; they attribute deaths and destruction of property because of daily blasts to the US War on Terror the country has been sucked into.
By Iftekhar A Khan
The writer is a freelance columnist.
Buying Pakistans Sovereignty: $7.5 Billion For War-Torn Pakistan: The administration sent Congress its first mandated report on Pakistan strategy yesterday, part of the terms of the Kerry-Lugar Pakistan aid bill
You are speaking the language of the Neo-Con’s, who say that the “Muslims love death mare than we love life?
Who is we, keep this death wish for yourself, the Muslims are just as human as non Muslims and they love their children and their families just like or even more than any other group, thus they love life. If you love death, than go and “see” a psychiatrist, that is your problem.
Disagreeing with the Western warmongers polices does not require suicidal responses, one can disagree with them by communicating with them in rational way and influence the government to change their own polices of begging and subservience.
PKP is providing you a forum to express yourself, not to preach the society your death wish or implying that the Muslims love death more than life. In Islam, every life has been respected to the point of equaling to the whole humanity, and is a religion of love and peace.
You simpleton, no one in the world can defeat a religion followed by one third of humanity. 1.6 billion Muslims are not to be defeated, it is the people who are governing them are the one who are selling their own people for money as sacrificial lambs.
Comments like your’s get picked up by for the propaganda purposes to demonizing the religion and the Muslim people.
“we love death more then they love life. Just a futile exercise and we are not going to lay down.”
Read this and see how this is used by some “westren’s”……
In the war on terrorism, major battles from early Islamic history serve as inspiration for those fighting against the West. As al Qaeda associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last week, he asked, “Is it not time for you [Muslims] to take the path of jihad and carry the sword of the Prophet of prophets?… The Prophet, the most merciful, ordered [his army] to strike the necks of some prisoners in [the battle of] Badr and to kill them… And he set a good example for us. As for you, Bush, dog of the Christians, anticipate what will harm you… And you will only get shroud after shroud and coffin after coffin slaughtered in this manner.”
Another chapter from early Islamic history — serving as a lesson for today’s Muslims at war against the West — is the concept of the love of death. This originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: “You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don’t, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life.” This account is recited in today’s Muslim sermons, newspapers, and textbooks.
In his speech of March 19, 2004, President Bush referred to this concept: “On a tape claiming responsibility for the atrocities in Madrid, a man is heard to say, ‘We choose death, while you choose life.’… It is a mindset that rejoices in suicide, incites murder, and celebrates every death we mourn. And we who stand on the other side of the line must be equally clear and certain of our convictions. We do love life…. We believe in the values that uphold the dignity of life, tolerance, and freedom, and the right of conscience. And we know that this way of life is worth defending. There is no neutral ground — no neutral ground — in the fight between civilization and terror, because there is no neutral ground between good and evil, freedom and slavery, and life and death.”
Now try to understand that these Westerns, who are responsible of killing million upon millions of Muslim and non Muslim civilians form beginning of history until as we speak.
They are occupying the Muslim lands and waging illegal wars and target killing, assignations and burning, bombing, raping, torturing the Muslim people and are trying to hide their atrocities behind the words of foolish people like you or misinterpreting the historic words of the Muslim warrior in war situations or some people in an asymmetric warfare , who use the threat of death as a weapon of choice.
People like Steven Stalinsky are extremely dangerous and psychotic people who’s job is to make the Muslim peoples murders more palatable to the non Muslim masses on the basses of their misrepresentation of historical facts and twisting the words.
Concerned American Pak, I respect your emotionl outburst. Believe me you are my favourite on this forum. I always feel, that you speak my mind.
it. I was talking about the philosophy behind the concept of jehad, which you and me, living in the comforts of western world are unaware of. We can die for our religion but the US and co cannot. We see that eternal life of ‘Shahadat’ while fighting the enemies of Islam. I interpreted that as’ love for death (shahadat, not sucide). I reckon its the philosphyof ‘Shahadat’ which distinguish us form the infidels and proved in the 21st century that the so called mightiest powers of the world with sophisticated war machinaries cannot defeat the will of bare handed people in our region.
I think the problem lies in our superficial understanding of Islam. My advice to you is to menifist the teachings of Islam (if you believe it in its essence) in you life pragmatically and see how it reinterprets your life. I mean acquiring knowledge is not neccessarily acuiring ‘Iman’.
In my opinion the enemies of Islam wants us to speak what they allow and I think I speak and write what I think is the fact. if somebody do not understand or misinterpret it, its their problem.
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US: “Pakistan is an ally and our friend” ……………
……………. and we, the US as a super power, like to use our friends and allies like cond*ms. We use them and then we throw them. Why is Pakistan not proud of it? What a shame!
Hassan, you rock. why dont US and its allies understand a simple point that they cannot defeat the muslims in ‘AFPak’ as we love death more then they love life. Just a futile exercise and we are not going to lay down. You are scared, tired and very soon have to P*ss off. Go home as you miss your pubing and clubing, NA?
A good read for, Admiral Mike Mullen (Chairman US-JCS) and Ambasssador Anne W. Patterson (U.S.)
Chasing Shadows In Pakistan
The truth is that Obama seems to have lost control of the US foreign and defence policies. It is the hawks of the military industrial complex and national security advisers, who ‘war game’ with public lives and resources in alien lands, which dictate US policies. Would Lockheed Martin, manufacturer of Hellfire missiles and General Atomics, and manufacturer of Predator and Reaper drones that fire these missiles, want the war to end?
Would defence contractors Blackwater (Worldwide Xe), DynCorp or Krestal and reconstruction giants Halliburton and Bechtel want the flames of war to extinguish? No, because war is their industry and killing their business. Such corporations, on the other end, finance politicians’ election campaigns.
So wars are lucrative corporate projects.
PM Gilani said a few days ago that troop surge in Afghanistan will destabilise Pakistan, but our superior ally, instead of paying heed to it, has decided to inject more troops. Some of the young soldiers will probably spend their last Christmas at home this year. In this backdrop, the US agenda in Pakistan is not obscure anymore; the superpower intends to stretch the war with drone strikes in Balochistan beside FATA.
The US already knows that the weak-kneed Pak government beholden to it will make superficial noises of little consequence and not much else. This supports the oft-repeated stance that destabilisation activity surrounds the arc: CAS-Afghanistan-FATA-Balochistan (Gwadar). With surge in US/NATO troops in Afghanistan, the region round the arc is likely to boil over.
People are seething with anti-Americanism; they attribute deaths and destruction of property because of daily blasts to the US War on Terror the country has been sucked into.
By Iftekhar A Khan
The writer is a freelance columnist.
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-
online/Opinions/Columns/16-Dec-2009/Chasing-shadows/1
Buying Pakistans Sovereignty: $7.5 Billion For War-Torn Pakistan: The administration sent Congress its first mandated report on Pakistan strategy yesterday, part of the terms of the Kerry-Lugar Pakistan aid bill
@zalmay
You are speaking the language of the Neo-Con’s, who say that the “Muslims love death mare than we love life?
Who is we, keep this death wish for yourself, the Muslims are just as human as non Muslims and they love their children and their families just like or even more than any other group, thus they love life. If you love death, than go and “see” a psychiatrist, that is your problem.
Disagreeing with the Western warmongers polices does not require suicidal responses, one can disagree with them by communicating with them in rational way and influence the government to change their own polices of begging and subservience.
PKP is providing you a forum to express yourself, not to preach the society your death wish or implying that the Muslims love death more than life. In Islam, every life has been respected to the point of equaling to the whole humanity, and is a religion of love and peace.
You simpleton, no one in the world can defeat a religion followed by one third of humanity. 1.6 billion Muslims are not to be defeated, it is the people who are governing them are the one who are selling their own people for money as sacrificial lambs.
@zalmay , Whoever the hell you are?
Comments like your’s get picked up by for the propaganda purposes to demonizing the religion and the Muslim people.
“we love death more then they love life. Just a futile exercise and we are not going to lay down.”
Read this and see how this is used by some “westren’s”……
In the war on terrorism, major battles from early Islamic history serve as inspiration for those fighting against the West. As al Qaeda associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi beheaded American Nicholas Berg in Iraq last week, he asked, “Is it not time for you [Muslims] to take the path of jihad and carry the sword of the Prophet of prophets?… The Prophet, the most merciful, ordered [his army] to strike the necks of some prisoners in [the battle of] Badr and to kill them… And he set a good example for us. As for you, Bush, dog of the Christians, anticipate what will harm you… And you will only get shroud after shroud and coffin after coffin slaughtered in this manner.”
Another chapter from early Islamic history — serving as a lesson for today’s Muslims at war against the West — is the concept of the love of death. This originated at the Battle of Qadisiyya in the year 636, when the commander of the Muslim forces, Khalid ibn Al-Walid, sent an emissary with a message from Caliph Abu Bakr to the Persian commander, Khosru. The message stated: “You [Khosru and his people] should convert to Islam, and then you will be safe, for if you don’t, you should know that I have come to you with an army of men that love death, as you love life.” This account is recited in today’s Muslim sermons, newspapers, and textbooks.
In his speech of March 19, 2004, President Bush referred to this concept: “On a tape claiming responsibility for the atrocities in Madrid, a man is heard to say, ‘We choose death, while you choose life.’… It is a mindset that rejoices in suicide, incites murder, and celebrates every death we mourn. And we who stand on the other side of the line must be equally clear and certain of our convictions. We do love life…. We believe in the values that uphold the dignity of life, tolerance, and freedom, and the right of conscience. And we know that this way of life is worth defending. There is no neutral ground — no neutral ground — in the fight between civilization and terror, because there is no neutral ground between good and evil, freedom and slavery, and life and death.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp
Now try to understand that these Westerns, who are responsible of killing million upon millions of Muslim and non Muslim civilians form beginning of history until as we speak.
They are occupying the Muslim lands and waging illegal wars and target killing, assignations and burning, bombing, raping, torturing the Muslim people and are trying to hide their atrocities behind the words of foolish people like you or misinterpreting the historic words of the Muslim warrior in war situations or some people in an asymmetric warfare , who use the threat of death as a weapon of choice.
People like Steven Stalinsky are extremely dangerous and psychotic people who’s job is to make the Muslim peoples murders more palatable to the non Muslim masses on the basses of their misrepresentation of historical facts and twisting the words.
s/b
Comments like your’s get picked up by some for the propaganda purposes to demonizing the religion and the Muslim people.
Concerned American Pak, I respect your emotionl outburst. Believe me you are my favourite on this forum. I always feel, that you speak my mind.
it. I was talking about the philosophy behind the concept of jehad, which you and me, living in the comforts of western world are unaware of. We can die for our religion but the US and co cannot. We see that eternal life of ‘Shahadat’ while fighting the enemies of Islam. I interpreted that as’ love for death (shahadat, not sucide). I reckon its the philosphyof ‘Shahadat’ which distinguish us form the infidels and proved in the 21st century that the so called mightiest powers of the world with sophisticated war machinaries cannot defeat the will of bare handed people in our region.
I think the problem lies in our superficial understanding of Islam. My advice to you is to menifist the teachings of Islam (if you believe it in its essence) in you life pragmatically and see how it reinterprets your life. I mean acquiring knowledge is not neccessarily acuiring ‘Iman’.
In my opinion the enemies of Islam wants us to speak what they allow and I think I speak and write what I think is the fact. if somebody do not understand or misinterpret it, its their problem.
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