Gen Aslam Beg was all out to suggest its CIA and Zardari duo which has become uneasy due to changing ground realities with army. It seems controversial but his claim means first Mush gave Americans too much room and now army is trying to squeeze them out a bit to make room for themselves.
Why this CIA nightmare was allowed to roam around our cities and town at first place, if Mush has done it, hang him at Ghanta Ghar of Faisalabad. No respect for lives of our countrymen?
One side we have prime minister saying i re-instated CJ and other side we have a CEC member Aitzaz Ahsan saying that General Kiyani played a role to re-instate CJ.
Zardari wants fauj to intervene not to remove him but to use its influence on SC so they can let him of the hook but he is having no luck. SC is going to take these cases to its logic end , if you are guilty you are going down.
We should talk to all taliban groups and not listen to the rubbish that comes from the yanks, its OK for them to have dialogue with the taliban but we are not allowed do this.
We can’t carry living our lives in fear and constantly feeling under siege, they has to be a political settlement, it wont be perfect just like it is not perfect with MQM but it is better then having these mass bombings where they is so much human loss.
@aftab
The problem is we do not have anything called national strategy, we do what americans told us to do. look at the influence of americans NM mentioned US mbassador meeting with chaudhry Shujaat to seek support for zardari, hillary clinton and holbrooke made phone calls to Sharif and others and US generals meeting GHQ bosses, this is how they manage us.
I think they is a consensus that we move away from the yanks in regards to this War Of Terror and make a Pakistan strategy that is controlled by us and not the Yanks.
They influence over our people is understandable but not acceptable, i have said many times before they have our leaders by the ***** because all they wealth is in western countries.
I am not sure how any one else think of but as I see it Mushaid Hussain is gone with the wind. Somehow he seems to be a “buddy” to some and therefore he comes in and talks as an expert on almost any aspect of life but what a looser he in fact is.
tariqhussain said:
Gen Aslam Beg was all out to suggest its CIA and Zardari duo which has become uneasy due to changing ground realities with army. It seems controversial but his claim means first Mush gave Americans too much room and now army is trying to squeeze them out a bit to make room for themselves.
Why this CIA nightmare was allowed to roam around our cities and town at first place, if Mush has done it, hang him at Ghanta Ghar of Faisalabad. No respect for lives of our countrymen?
aftab said:
One side we have prime minister saying i re-instated CJ and other side we have a CEC member Aitzaz Ahsan saying that General Kiyani played a role to re-instate CJ.
Zardari wants fauj to intervene not to remove him but to use its influence on SC so they can let him of the hook but he is having no luck. SC is going to take these cases to its logic end , if you are guilty you are going down.
We should talk to all taliban groups and not listen to the rubbish that comes from the yanks, its OK for them to have dialogue with the taliban but we are not allowed do this.
That is absolutely right ,no body likes Talibans but we need to be wise to save the lives of our fellow country men.
Musha Hussain and his party are responsible for what is going on in Pakistan.These are the people who stood by side of Musharaf the worst dictator ever in the history of Pakistan.
I also believe that this man has relationship with America and military at the same time.He was clearly defending general Kiani even for his bad decisions.
The news Mushahid gave on the show that soon the powers of zardari will be peeled off because Americans have realized they can use Zardari solely means that another conspiracy is ready to fulfil the wishes of Americans.I do not know when we will find people who will make indigenous decisions.
In his speech at the 2nd anniversary of BB Zardari accused military for conspiracy and yesterday he said he has no problem with military.It is very clear that man is confuse and we can not afford to have such confused president at the most difficult times of our history.
General kiani is one of the man who made foolish decisions as core commander of Musharaf.He is also responsible to give so much room to Americans beside Musharaf and now we are paying the price of stupid decisions of dumb generals.Mirza Aslam Baig is praising Kiani to rectify his own mistakes.
azadpakistan said:
General kiani is one of the man who made foolish decisions as core commander of Musharaf.He is also responsible to give so much room to Americans beside Musharaf and now we are paying the price of stupid decisions of dumb generals.Mirza Aslam Baig is praising Kiani to rectify his own mistakes.
You are very right yes politicians are very corrupt but it is Musharaf a general who put Pakistan in to chaos.Generals always have excuse for their blunders.
You made a valid point but i must say it is nice if our military has finally realized that going all guns out with America is a mistake and trying to rectify their bad decisions.I heard that Sihala training center has been evacuated and Americans are forced to leave from there.I appreciate this bold decision of general Kiani.
There are reports that MQM is behind Karachi carnage if it is true authorities shoud take serious notice and dig down deep why MQM has done so.If case is legitimate MQM not only should be punished according to law but also should be banned to practice and political ambitions.
The worst point is not this that we are victim of terrorism and our people are being killed .The worst point is this that we ruled by one of the worst human being we could possibly have.It is so unfortunate that our president is more worried about his future rather than the future of Pakistan and safety of the innocent people of Pakistan.
izatmaab said:
The worst point is not this that we are victim of terrorism and our people are being killed .The worst point is this that we ruled by one of the worst human being we could possibly have.It is so unfortunate that our president is more worried about his future rather than the future of Pakistan and safety of the innocent people of Pakistan.
Can not be said better than this 105 innocent young fellows are killed in Lucky Murwat and our president is giving us this news that there are people conspiring against him.What about the people conspiring against Pakistan and its people.
Gen Aslam Beg was all out to suggest its CIA and Zardari duo which has become uneasy due to changing ground realities with army. It seems controversial but his claim means first Mush gave Americans too much room and now army is trying to squeeze them out a bit to make room for themselves.
Why this CIA nightmare was allowed to roam around our cities and town at first place, if Mush has done it, hang him at Ghanta Ghar of Faisalabad. No respect for lives of our countrymen?
One side we have prime minister saying i re-instated CJ and other side we have a CEC member Aitzaz Ahsan saying that General Kiyani played a role to re-instate CJ.
Zardari wants fauj to intervene not to remove him but to use its influence on SC so they can let him of the hook but he is having no luck. SC is going to take these cases to its logic end , if you are guilty you are going down.
We should talk to all taliban groups and not listen to the rubbish that comes from the yanks, its OK for them to have dialogue with the taliban but we are not allowed do this.
We can’t carry living our lives in fear and constantly feeling under siege, they has to be a political settlement, it wont be perfect just like it is not perfect with MQM but it is better then having these mass bombings where they is so much human loss.
@aftab
The problem is we do not have anything called national strategy, we do what americans told us to do. look at the influence of americans NM mentioned US mbassador meeting with chaudhry Shujaat to seek support for zardari, hillary clinton and holbrooke made phone calls to Sharif and others and US generals meeting GHQ bosses, this is how they manage us.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4PEq-s9Zw
@ niazmand
I think they is a consensus that we move away from the yanks in regards to this War Of Terror and make a Pakistan strategy that is controlled by us and not the Yanks.
They influence over our people is understandable but not acceptable, i have said many times before they have our leaders by the ***** because all they wealth is in western countries.
I am not sure how any one else think of but as I see it Mushaid Hussain is gone with the wind. Somehow he seems to be a “buddy” to some and therefore he comes in and talks as an expert on almost any aspect of life but what a looser he in fact is.
Good show.
Very good and unbiased discussion.
tariqhussain said:
Gen Aslam Beg was all out to suggest its CIA and Zardari duo which has become uneasy due to changing ground realities with army. It seems controversial but his claim means first Mush gave Americans too much room and now army is trying to squeeze them out a bit to make room for themselves.
Why this CIA nightmare was allowed to roam around our cities and town at first place, if Mush has done it, hang him at Ghanta Ghar of Faisalabad. No respect for lives of our countrymen?
Cannot be said better than this.
I am absolutely against Zardari but my point is why military did not object when he decided to run for president?
Military generals never make prescient decisions.
aftab said:
One side we have prime minister saying i re-instated CJ and other side we have a CEC member Aitzaz Ahsan saying that General Kiyani played a role to re-instate CJ.
Zardari wants fauj to intervene not to remove him but to use its influence on SC so they can let him of the hook but he is having no luck. SC is going to take these cases to its logic end , if you are guilty you are going down.
We should talk to all taliban groups and not listen to the rubbish that comes from the yanks, its OK for them to have dialogue with the taliban but we are not allowed do this.
That is absolutely right ,no body likes Talibans but we need to be wise to save the lives of our fellow country men.
Musha Hussain and his party are responsible for what is going on in Pakistan.These are the people who stood by side of Musharaf the worst dictator ever in the history of Pakistan.
I also believe that this man has relationship with America and military at the same time.He was clearly defending general Kiani even for his bad decisions.
The news Mushahid gave on the show that soon the powers of zardari will be peeled off because Americans have realized they can use Zardari solely means that another conspiracy is ready to fulfil the wishes of Americans.I do not know when we will find people who will make indigenous decisions.
In his speech at the 2nd anniversary of BB Zardari accused military for conspiracy and yesterday he said he has no problem with military.It is very clear that man is confuse and we can not afford to have such confused president at the most difficult times of our history.
General kiani is one of the man who made foolish decisions as core commander of Musharaf.He is also responsible to give so much room to Americans beside Musharaf and now we are paying the price of stupid decisions of dumb generals.Mirza Aslam Baig is praising Kiani to rectify his own mistakes.
azadpakistan said:
General kiani is one of the man who made foolish decisions as core commander of Musharaf.He is also responsible to give so much room to Americans beside Musharaf and now we are paying the price of stupid decisions of dumb generals.Mirza Aslam Baig is praising Kiani to rectify his own mistakes.
You are very right yes politicians are very corrupt but it is Musharaf a general who put Pakistan in to chaos.Generals always have excuse for their blunders.
It is Zardari or military or common politicians bad decisions at the end of the day it is people of Pakistan who suffer.
To,
azadpakistan said:
You made a valid point but i must say it is nice if our military has finally realized that going all guns out with America is a mistake and trying to rectify their bad decisions.I heard that Sihala training center has been evacuated and Americans are forced to leave from there.I appreciate this bold decision of general Kiani.
There are reports that MQM is behind Karachi carnage if it is true authorities shoud take serious notice and dig down deep why MQM has done so.If case is legitimate MQM not only should be punished according to law but also should be banned to practice and political ambitions.
The worst point is not this that we are victim of terrorism and our people are being killed .The worst point is this that we ruled by one of the worst human being we could possibly have.It is so unfortunate that our president is more worried about his future rather than the future of Pakistan and safety of the innocent people of Pakistan.
izatmaab said:
The worst point is not this that we are victim of terrorism and our people are being killed .The worst point is this that we ruled by one of the worst human being we could possibly have.It is so unfortunate that our president is more worried about his future rather than the future of Pakistan and safety of the innocent people of Pakistan.
Can not be said better than this 105 innocent young fellows are killed in Lucky Murwat and our president is giving us this news that there are people conspiring against him.What about the people conspiring against Pakistan and its people.
Gen Beg made good assessment of why Zardari and CIA are so unhappy.
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