How long PPP leaders will keep crying about past.It is time to pay attention to the current problems of the country but PPP leaders go back as 1988 when BB government was over thrown.What PPP has done in two years now is a big question mark,stop making excuses about conspiracies.
It is true that military normally do not like PPP leader ship but it is also true that PPP leader ship is also doubtful about military regime.
I believe PPP government completely failed to deliver.
Our country is surrounded with so many enemies and current PPP government is playing bluff games.President is more worried about his own future than Pakistan.
I totally agreed with gen;Durani that when we invite Americans to interfere in our internal affairs obviously they will do so.It is a open secrete now that BB called Bush senior to shut the opposition up.Our military is more responsible to be like subordinate of Americans.Most of the decisions about Pakistan are made in The White house and pentagon.
General Durrani made an interesting comment that when looking at the ground situation army wants some sort of national government or national security council or national consesnus government, the government of the day feels a conspiracy.
NM insisted on his question that what is being said by army to zardari that he feels so insecure, there was no clear answer from General Durani.
It appears that same message has been given to zardari again that there is growing insurgency, law & order situation, so he should try to develop a national consensus or establish a war like body of National Security.
This concept may not suit Zardari and his American friends as it could help Pakistan devise a strategy to deal with vulnerablities on the border.
What kind of parliament we have it is supreme court taking notice of every thing including price hike and government is non existing.Power outage is a common practice for hours.
Government can not take credit for one good job they have done in two years.
I personally feel that if the existing Defence Committee of the Cabinet is strengthened, headed by PM, including leader of the opposition in National Assembly and Senate, Defence Minister, Foreign Minister, where they can invite services chiefs, could help provide an oversight over the day to day military operations and domestic security mechanism.
Gillani should think on these lines to set up a war cabinet ot strengthen Defence Committee.
Even there is a National Security Committee of Raza Rabbani and Ishaq Dar. This could be elevated with more powers.
If there is a will there is a way.
Our politicians normally stress on one thing that they are democratically elected,yes they are but do they know the democratic principals after they get elected i doubt that?
The roll of parliament is almost nothing in such crucial and dangerous times in our history.
National issues are discussed between handful of people with out consulting the parliament and parliament has no problem with that practice.It is not the real form of democracy like Gen;Durani said.
sadiqahmed said:
I personally feel that if the existing Defence Committee of the Cabinet is strengthened, headed by PM, including leader of the opposition in National Assembly and Senate, Defence Minister, Foreign Minister, where they can invite services chiefs, could help provide an oversight over the day to day military operations and domestic security mechanism.
Your suggestion is wonderful but who is going to follow it? no body unfortunately.Fact of the matter is that our government and opposition do not have time to think about Pakistan and its people.They are so busy working for Americans.
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sadiqahmed said:
It appears that same message has been given to zardari again that there is growing insurgency, law & order situation, so he should try to develop a national consensus or establish a war like body of National Security.
This concept may not suit Zardari and his American friends as it could help Pakistan devise a strategy to deal with vulnerablities on the border.
That is the irony that we sacrifice our nation interest for personal reasons.Zardari is more worried about his future as president than Pakistan.PPP leaders often on talk shows are stubborn rather than reasonable.
CCPO Karachi said that police has reached the people responsible for Karachi carnage.I wonder that we will ever learn the truth,what if MQM or America are responsible like some people are talking in that direction.Will our government openly tell to the people of Pakistan the truth or going make a story to cover up.
Gen Durani comments that when ever military try to give some advice to government it is seen as conspiracy may be true but political leader ship has reason to be ambiguous.Three coup,s are enough evidence that normally when military come up with some sort of suggestion there is also wrong intentions behind.I do not like Zardari at all but where was military when Musharaf was selling the interest of this country to Americans why military did not come up with some suggestion or piece of advice.
General Durani was so critical of politicians and their lack of will to do some thing but when he was asked about military roll and message normally military give he was trying to dodge the question.There was no clear answer and he had good excuses . One thing is very clear that military is also responsible for the chaos in the country or may be only military is responsible.It is true that Zardari and co is not able to resolve the problems but who is responsible for these problems and to make stupid decisions,obviously Musharaf and military.General Kiani is one of those people equally responsible to let the Americans take over this country.If he has taken few good steps now he is trying to rectify his own mistakes.
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How long PPP leaders will keep crying about past.It is time to pay attention to the current problems of the country but PPP leaders go back as 1988 when BB government was over thrown.What PPP has done in two years now is a big question mark,stop making excuses about conspiracies.
It is true that military normally do not like PPP leader ship but it is also true that PPP leader ship is also doubtful about military regime.
I believe PPP government completely failed to deliver.
Our country is surrounded with so many enemies and current PPP government is playing bluff games.President is more worried about his own future than Pakistan.
I totally agreed with gen;Durani that when we invite Americans to interfere in our internal affairs obviously they will do so.It is a open secrete now that BB called Bush senior to shut the opposition up.Our military is more responsible to be like subordinate of Americans.Most of the decisions about Pakistan are made in The White house and pentagon.
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General Durrani made an interesting comment that when looking at the ground situation army wants some sort of national government or national security council or national consesnus government, the government of the day feels a conspiracy.
NM insisted on his question that what is being said by army to zardari that he feels so insecure, there was no clear answer from General Durani.
It appears that same message has been given to zardari again that there is growing insurgency, law & order situation, so he should try to develop a national consensus or establish a war like body of National Security.
This concept may not suit Zardari and his American friends as it could help Pakistan devise a strategy to deal with vulnerablities on the border.
What kind of parliament we have it is supreme court taking notice of every thing including price hike and government is non existing.Power outage is a common practice for hours.
Government can not take credit for one good job they have done in two years.
I personally feel that if the existing Defence Committee of the Cabinet is strengthened, headed by PM, including leader of the opposition in National Assembly and Senate, Defence Minister, Foreign Minister, where they can invite services chiefs, could help provide an oversight over the day to day military operations and domestic security mechanism.
Gillani should think on these lines to set up a war cabinet ot strengthen Defence Committee.
Even there is a National Security Committee of Raza Rabbani and Ishaq Dar. This could be elevated with more powers.
If there is a will there is a way.
Our politicians normally stress on one thing that they are democratically elected,yes they are but do they know the democratic principals after they get elected i doubt that?
The roll of parliament is almost nothing in such crucial and dangerous times in our history.
National issues are discussed between handful of people with out consulting the parliament and parliament has no problem with that practice.It is not the real form of democracy like Gen;Durani said.
sadiqahmed said:
I personally feel that if the existing Defence Committee of the Cabinet is strengthened, headed by PM, including leader of the opposition in National Assembly and Senate, Defence Minister, Foreign Minister, where they can invite services chiefs, could help provide an oversight over the day to day military operations and domestic security mechanism.
Your suggestion is wonderful but who is going to follow it? no body unfortunately.Fact of the matter is that our government and opposition do not have time to think about Pakistan and its people.They are so busy working for Americans.
To,
sadiqahmed said:
It appears that same message has been given to zardari again that there is growing insurgency, law & order situation, so he should try to develop a national consensus or establish a war like body of National Security.
This concept may not suit Zardari and his American friends as it could help Pakistan devise a strategy to deal with vulnerablities on the border.
That is the irony that we sacrifice our nation interest for personal reasons.Zardari is more worried about his future as president than Pakistan.PPP leaders often on talk shows are stubborn rather than reasonable.
CCPO Karachi said that police has reached the people responsible for Karachi carnage.I wonder that we will ever learn the truth,what if MQM or America are responsible like some people are talking in that direction.Will our government openly tell to the people of Pakistan the truth or going make a story to cover up.
Gen Durani comments that when ever military try to give some advice to government it is seen as conspiracy may be true but political leader ship has reason to be ambiguous.Three coup,s are enough evidence that normally when military come up with some sort of suggestion there is also wrong intentions behind.I do not like Zardari at all but where was military when Musharaf was selling the interest of this country to Americans why military did not come up with some suggestion or piece of advice.
General Durani was so critical of politicians and their lack of will to do some thing but when he was asked about military roll and message normally military give he was trying to dodge the question.There was no clear answer and he had good excuses . One thing is very clear that military is also responsible for the chaos in the country or may be only military is responsible.It is true that Zardari and co is not able to resolve the problems but who is responsible for these problems and to make stupid decisions,obviously Musharaf and military.General Kiani is one of those people equally responsible to let the Americans take over this country.If he has taken few good steps now he is trying to rectify his own mistakes.
Durrani Sahib ab aqal ki baat ker rahe hein jab politicians ko paise bant rahe they tab bhi sochna chahyeh tha.
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