پروگرام ميں اب تو اتنی بہتری آ گئ ھے ؛کبھی کبھی تو مھجے دو دو دن بہد ہنسی آتی رہتی ھے؛
میرے دوست کہتے ھیں؛ یہ پاگل ھو گیا ھے؛اب ميرے دوست بھی اس پروگرام کے گن گاتے رہتے ھيں ؛آور اب ھم لوگ ہنسی خوشی خوش خوش رہ رہے ھیں :D
This program simply promotes the agenda of establishment and behave as the wizard which by the way these are not… A very immature program… Regarding Rashid Minhas, every sucide bomber in Pakistan is Rashid Minhas and they usually take inspiration in the similar vein…
Yup…forgot to add couple of more sensible lines… Ask your youth to get inspired by scientists and sufis not by warlords which have in fact caused a lot of destruction in this world. We need educated youth not the weapons of mass destruction. When you Pakis.. will learn to speak and accept the truth as in this village every one is a bloody liar!
You are simply an a$$ hole. come up with arguments. when was rashid minhas died. what was situation then. Iam sure you will call Imam Hussain the same.
salam
@paki007
having read ur ordinary, illogical, irrational and senseless comments about Rashid minhas, i felt sorry, I would never like to comment on ur comments but ur remarks about Rashid minhas prompted me to write about that. if u don’t know anything about the history, don’t disgrace shaheeds. by no means suicide bombers can be compared with shaheeds. suicide bombing is illegitimate or haram in Islam whereas if someone is martyred i.e. gets shahadat for the sake of country or Islam then he is called shaheed not suicide bomber.
in case of war between two countries declared by states of those countries and both the armies r defending their boundries just like 65 war or 71 and any soldier intends to harm enemy and explodes himself to kill enemy forces that is allowed or legal in Islam. However, in normal circumstances in a country or city where there is no war or such thing or even if any group or community has any dispute with any other gang or community or even with govt. no matter if the 1st group is on the right course, they r not allowed to explode themselves or get involved in suicide bombings. it’ll be totally haram in such case.
get a life next time before commenting on any shaheed.
May ALLAH bless Pakistan n Pakistanis
The argument is logical in terms of the inspiration that is being taken by these two extremes of our society. One is the army that finds and explores strategic depth in Afghanistan and fights with every other non-Muslim and Muslim country to protect Islam. In the same manner, the weapons of mass destruction (Taliban) beliefs and practice their inspiration through their extreme acts. Both entities have got the resources to make the collator damage (kill the ordinary citizens)…
Stop this bull shit and hollow slogans of patriotism. Do not protect the ideology of violence and extremism of this country. Promote the non violence agenda becuase patriotism cannot be gauged by emotional speeches but to the extent of economic value added in a society. The role of peasants, workers and professional class of this society should be highlighted as the proxy of patriotism not the violent acts or actors. But this nation and its people cannot understand the difference as this country has created, survived and thrived on the basis of violence either being exported in neighbouring countries like Afghanistan. No offence… I think this is not the right place and audience to present these ideas as you’re very patriotic as if can threaten to kill nation enemies like me. Long live Pakistan.
Display of complete Nawa-i-Waqt mentality by Junaid Saleem. To an extent I agree with paki007. Our society is totally devoid of non-military heroes and that is the result of 60 years of madness involving jingoism and promotion of militancy and a complete failure in building national institutions. This argument takes nothing away from the daring showed by Rashid Minhas. he had an enemy, he preferred martyrdom over surrender to the enemy. these suicide bombers apparently might seem a world away from the martyrdom of Rashid Minhas. but are the direct product of glorifying militancy. what has happened in Pakistan over the decades is that we have condoned militant organizations among ourselves, we have allowed our establishment to extol army as the only patriotic institution, their martyrs and ghazis are the only men worthy of praise. anybody who dares to criticise the army or who does not subscribe to the establishment agenda is readily dubbed as anti-state, a kafir and a traitor. we need to rise above the individual instances and talk about the role of army as an institution. the role of state or the ruling establishment is very important here as well. if you don’t have an egalitarian society, if you don’t have social and political justice, if you have a very dominant, oppressive ruling elite the martyrdoms by men like Rashid Minhas can only serve as individual examples of bravery but they cannot serve the masses in the longer run. The ruling elite high-jacks these examples and uses them to further their agenda.
Ciao
A classic example of stereotyping, nobody cursed Islam here and the jury is still out on who is sitting in the rat hole or some other holes, and is sipping vodka, it is a question of objective analysis, you may never know, may be who is writing all this is a better Muslim, only Allah knows.
I wrote about typical piplees and so called “secularists”, not about any one person in particular. It is of-course stereotyping but based on characteristics of this breed. There maybe some piplees who do not fit the stereotype, but the stereotype is based on majority’s behavior, not one-off individual exceptions.
there are secularists and there are those who want to engage in objective analysis, Pakistan is facing grim problems, law and order, security, corruption, mob lynching, absolutely rotten political elite, it is no more a question of piplee or non piplee any more, the current bunch of opportunists gathered around zardari are not exceptional case, each government musharraf, nawaz, benesir, zia bhutto all had their coterie of arse-licking kun-tutaas who ran the affairs of government. I am talking about being Muslim and being a Pakistani but at the same time doing some soul searching and not being swept off the feet by the mantras of the ruling elite. anyway, the debate can go on forever.
@ Adonis
Majority of pipliyas are emotional freaks … And yes because of leftist interests and views which are common among secularists and anti Islamic anti religion freaks … these secularists also find space in this party … majority of the supporters including both the sects i mentioned are stupid .. those who do not have literacy and just emotional after some empty slogans and those who are literate in materialism but no religious wisdom .. both are extremely harmful things and have caused enormous harm so far to my country ..
Do these wrong doers believe in hereafter, grave ( ka azaab) or in God the almighty? That you are doing them “nasihat’?, if they had a little belief or faith in these things, they wouldn’t have done or doing what’s they are doing everyday.
Give one nishan-e-haider to patriotic AZ, for securing (make sure securityof ) himself only.
salam
@paki007
nobody is protecting the ideology of extremism. is u mentioned taliban as weapons of mass destructions and u said something about army. i personally think, if anyone talks about taliban, he/she should explain this term thoroughly as taliban is very abstract term. there r atleast 3-4 types of taliban in afghanistan n pakistan. even the indian agents near pak-afghan border who r working for indian interest r called talibans as they r disguised ppl. the group of baitullah mehsood an american agent’s gang was also called taliban. n they r talibans also who belong to jalal ud din haqqani group those who r pro pakistani elements and talibans r also those ppl who were the rulers of afghanistan before 9/11 and the whole world with all it’s resources and weapons couldn’t defeat them till date. the talibans who r killing ppl n r involved in suicide attacks they r not actual taliban rather disguised ppl n using the label of taliban only.
u also talked about army. i also think that every pakistani should be proud of our armed forces. our army no doubt is one of the best armies of the world. unfortunately it was engaged in a war which was by no means pakistan’s war. pak army is much more honorable then govt. bcoz US has tamed govt. and army doesn’t kill it’s own ppl. thats a misconception.
May ALLAH bless Pakistan n Pakistanis.
You are right Junaid Saleem has ruined the prog and ofcourse i still haven’t figured out what Miss Najia is doing apart from laughing madly …. Azeezi needs some help it has become alone battle for him now.
If we agree with Paki007, then we should admit that if Tailban (American Agents) destroying our country, and those who are fighting with them to save our country are terrorist too. But you are mean paki007. Are you get blind? Dont you look around you, your country what is happening in the world. Don’t you see USA only attacks those countries those have no military power to fight back.
If you show weakness before world and not prepare yourself for any war impose on you they will destroy you. And mind you bombs will not discriminate you and me, Shia and Sunni, for them we are all Muslims and they declare Islam and Muslims are their enemies. They are gathering all their powers to destroy us and you say that we welcome them with flowers.
I did not want to comment as earlier I wrote that I lack the power of conviction and wisdom to transform the brilliant minds of Pakis… One suggestion however; please do not live in the mist of paradoxes created by conspiracy theories. There is ample truth and evidence which makes it as clear as the sun in the sky about the ownership of Talibans… Soak the sun to get fresh light for viewing the brighter world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqLsIyKAUI&feature=related
wow man
naveed qamar bohat he ala hai 
i really like the show as it and appreciate the effort of the team, aur mukhbir nama to bohat he ala hai 
sana irfan
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پروگرام ميں اب تو اتنی بہتری آ گئ ھے ؛کبھی کبھی تو مھجے دو دو دن بہد ہنسی آتی رہتی ھے؛
:D
میرے دوست کہتے ھیں؛ یہ پاگل ھو گیا ھے؛اب ميرے دوست بھی اس پروگرام کے گن گاتے رہتے ھيں ؛آور اب ھم لوگ ہنسی خوشی خوش خوش رہ رہے ھیں
This program simply promotes the agenda of establishment and behave as the wizard which by the way these are not… A very immature program… Regarding Rashid Minhas, every sucide bomber in Pakistan is Rashid Minhas and they usually take inspiration in the similar vein…
Yup…forgot to add couple of more sensible lines… Ask your youth to get inspired by scientists and sufis not by warlords which have in fact caused a lot of destruction in this world. We need educated youth not the weapons of mass destruction. When you Pakis.. will learn to speak and accept the truth as in this village every one is a bloody liar!
Cheeers,
A liar…
@Paki007
You are simply an a$$ hole. come up with arguments. when was rashid minhas died. what was situation then. Iam sure you will call Imam Hussain the same.
salam
@paki007
having read ur ordinary, illogical, irrational and senseless comments about Rashid minhas, i felt sorry, I would never like to comment on ur comments but ur remarks about Rashid minhas prompted me to write about that. if u don’t know anything about the history, don’t disgrace shaheeds. by no means suicide bombers can be compared with shaheeds. suicide bombing is illegitimate or haram in Islam whereas if someone is martyred i.e. gets shahadat for the sake of country or Islam then he is called shaheed not suicide bomber.
in case of war between two countries declared by states of those countries and both the armies r defending their boundries just like 65 war or 71 and any soldier intends to harm enemy and explodes himself to kill enemy forces that is allowed or legal in Islam. However, in normal circumstances in a country or city where there is no war or such thing or even if any group or community has any dispute with any other gang or community or even with govt. no matter if the 1st group is on the right course, they r not allowed to explode themselves or get involved in suicide bombings. it’ll be totally haram in such case.
get a life next time before commenting on any shaheed.
May ALLAH bless Pakistan n Pakistanis
@ukpaki1@asimtaj
The argument is logical in terms of the inspiration that is being taken by these two extremes of our society. One is the army that finds and explores strategic depth in Afghanistan and fights with every other non-Muslim and Muslim country to protect Islam. In the same manner, the weapons of mass destruction (Taliban) beliefs and practice their inspiration through their extreme acts. Both entities have got the resources to make the collator damage (kill the ordinary citizens)…
Stop this bull shit and hollow slogans of patriotism. Do not protect the ideology of violence and extremism of this country. Promote the non violence agenda becuase patriotism cannot be gauged by emotional speeches but to the extent of economic value added in a society. The role of peasants, workers and professional class of this society should be highlighted as the proxy of patriotism not the violent acts or actors. But this nation and its people cannot understand the difference as this country has created, survived and thrived on the basis of violence either being exported in neighbouring countries like Afghanistan. No offence… I think this is not the right place and audience to present these ideas as you’re very patriotic as if can threaten to kill nation enemies like me. Long live Pakistan.
Display of complete Nawa-i-Waqt mentality by Junaid Saleem. To an extent I agree with paki007. Our society is totally devoid of non-military heroes and that is the result of 60 years of madness involving jingoism and promotion of militancy and a complete failure in building national institutions. This argument takes nothing away from the daring showed by Rashid Minhas. he had an enemy, he preferred martyrdom over surrender to the enemy. these suicide bombers apparently might seem a world away from the martyrdom of Rashid Minhas. but are the direct product of glorifying militancy. what has happened in Pakistan over the decades is that we have condoned militant organizations among ourselves, we have allowed our establishment to extol army as the only patriotic institution, their martyrs and ghazis are the only men worthy of praise. anybody who dares to criticise the army or who does not subscribe to the establishment agenda is readily dubbed as anti-state, a kafir and a traitor. we need to rise above the individual instances and talk about the role of army as an institution. the role of state or the ruling establishment is very important here as well. if you don’t have an egalitarian society, if you don’t have social and political justice, if you have a very dominant, oppressive ruling elite the martyrdoms by men like Rashid Minhas can only serve as individual examples of bravery but they cannot serve the masses in the longer run. The ruling elite high-jacks these examples and uses them to further their agenda.
Ciao
Typical piplee mentality.
Their pathological hatred to anything and anyone whom Pakistanis feel proud of is simply astounding.
Instead of doing anything for Pakistan, this breed prefers to sit tight in their rat holes sipping vodka and cursing Pakistan and Islam.
May Allah increase your heartburn !!!
@Adonis
A classic example of stereotyping, nobody cursed Islam here and the jury is still out on who is sitting in the rat hole or some other holes, and is sipping vodka, it is a question of objective analysis, you may never know, may be who is writing all this is a better Muslim, only Allah knows.
nice programme. qamar zaman qaira realy did stupidity.
I wrote about typical piplees and so called “secularists”, not about any one person in particular. It is of-course stereotyping but based on characteristics of this breed. There maybe some piplees who do not fit the stereotype, but the stereotype is based on majority’s behavior, not one-off individual exceptions.
there are secularists and there are those who want to engage in objective analysis, Pakistan is facing grim problems, law and order, security, corruption, mob lynching, absolutely rotten political elite, it is no more a question of piplee or non piplee any more, the current bunch of opportunists gathered around zardari are not exceptional case, each government musharraf, nawaz, benesir, zia bhutto all had their coterie of arse-licking kun-tutaas who ran the affairs of government. I am talking about being Muslim and being a Pakistani but at the same time doing some soul searching and not being swept off the feet by the mantras of the ruling elite. anyway, the debate can go on forever.
@ Adonis
Majority of pipliyas are emotional freaks … And yes because of leftist interests and views which are common among secularists and anti Islamic anti religion freaks … these secularists also find space in this party … majority of the supporters including both the sects i mentioned are stupid .. those who do not have literacy and just emotional after some empty slogans and those who are literate in materialism but no religious wisdom .. both are extremely harmful things and have caused enormous harm so far to my country ..
Very good show.
Do these wrong doers believe in hereafter, grave ( ka azaab) or in God the almighty? That you are doing them “nasihat’?, if they had a little belief or faith in these things, they wouldn’t have done or doing what’s they are doing everyday.
Give one nishan-e-haider to patriotic AZ, for securing (make sure securityof ) himself only.
salam
@paki007
nobody is protecting the ideology of extremism. is u mentioned taliban as weapons of mass destructions and u said something about army. i personally think, if anyone talks about taliban, he/she should explain this term thoroughly as taliban is very abstract term. there r atleast 3-4 types of taliban in afghanistan n pakistan. even the indian agents near pak-afghan border who r working for indian interest r called talibans as they r disguised ppl. the group of baitullah mehsood an american agent’s gang was also called taliban. n they r talibans also who belong to jalal ud din haqqani group those who r pro pakistani elements and talibans r also those ppl who were the rulers of afghanistan before 9/11 and the whole world with all it’s resources and weapons couldn’t defeat them till date. the talibans who r killing ppl n r involved in suicide attacks they r not actual taliban rather disguised ppl n using the label of taliban only.
u also talked about army. i also think that every pakistani should be proud of our armed forces. our army no doubt is one of the best armies of the world. unfortunately it was engaged in a war which was by no means pakistan’s war. pak army is much more honorable then govt. bcoz US has tamed govt. and army doesn’t kill it’s own ppl. thats a misconception.
May ALLAH bless Pakistan n Pakistanis.
@ daastaan
You are right Junaid Saleem has ruined the prog and ofcourse i still haven’t figured out what Miss Najia is doing apart from laughing madly …. Azeezi needs some help it has become alone battle for him now.
If we agree with Paki007, then we should admit that if Tailban (American Agents) destroying our country, and those who are fighting with them to save our country are terrorist too. But you are mean paki007. Are you get blind? Dont you look around you, your country what is happening in the world. Don’t you see USA only attacks those countries those have no military power to fight back.
If you show weakness before world and not prepare yourself for any war impose on you they will destroy you. And mind you bombs will not discriminate you and me, Shia and Sunni, for them we are all Muslims and they declare Islam and Muslims are their enemies. They are gathering all their powers to destroy us and you say that we welcome them with flowers.
@malikg and other allies
I did not want to comment as earlier I wrote that I lack the power of conviction and wisdom to transform the brilliant minds of Pakis… One suggestion however; please do not live in the mist of paradoxes created by conspiracy theories. There is ample truth and evidence which makes it as clear as the sun in the sky about the ownership of Talibans… Soak the sun to get fresh light for viewing the brighter world.
Cheers,
A bloody liar…
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