January 27, 2011

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Pervaiz Rasheed (PML-N), Hasil Bazingo (NP), Ihsan Waain (ANP) and Justice Ret. Tariq Mehmood in today’s program of Capital Talk with Hamid Mir.

40 Comments

  1. rauf muhammad says:

    Committed to sustainable productivity

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    FW: Poor Pakistan

    Dear Sir,
    Please forward your friends

    — ,

    “Pakistanis are poor but Pakistan is not a poor country”, says one of the Swiss Bank Directors. He says that “28 trillions (28,000,000,000,000) of Pak Rupees are deposited in Swiss Banks which can be used for:

    * “tax free” budgets for 30 years.

    * Can give 6o million jobs to all Pakistan .

    * Constructing 4 lane roads from any village to Islamabad .

    * Ensure forever free supply to more than 500 social projects.

    * Financial Assistance of Rs. 20,000 per month to every citizen for 60 years.

    * Disbanding the need of World Bank and IMF loans.

    Think how our money is stolen and blocked by rich corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. We have full right against these corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.

    Don’t ignore and forgive corruption at any level in our country.

    Iss message koe itna forward karo kay poora PAKISTAN parhay aur jaag utthay.

    Please take it seriously. If you can forward jokes, then why not this? Be a responsible citizen. email.

  2. Masood Ahmad says:

    @Bawa

    Koshish karain ke na-zeba alfaz na kehain kisi ko …..

    As far as ARMY generals are concerned, they don’t need to go to Swiss banks as they have the whole country as their inheritence. DHA, Fauji Fertilizer, FWO, mein kis kis ka naam loon, mashallah poora mulk unhon ne patey per ley rakha hai.

    Lakin kamal fankar hain, khaney pe aeen to poori ki poori abdoz kha jatey hain, khailney per aeen to aik golf course karodon ka benwa laitey hain, aur rehney pe aaen to nuclear attack proof dewaroon waley ghar bhi benwa laitey hai.

    Poorey pakistan ke siasatdanoon ne jitni corruption ki hai, wo to siraf DHA mein baney in fajion ke gharon se bhi kam hai. Aisey loot khaya hai jaise in ke baap ka maal hai.

    Inkey bachey sab UK, USA, Austrailia mein parhtey hain. Ye log elaj karwany southern france mein jatey hain, aur ye sab kuch awam ka kharchon per.

    Lakin inko ab bhi sabar naheen … peta naheen kia chahtey hain ye Gernail …..

  3. Masood Ahmad says:

    @Bawa

    Jenab wo zara establishment ka …. ghar ka ….. na …..

    “daman pe koee cheenta na khanjar pe koee daagh
    tum qatal karo ho ya karamaat karo ho.”

  4. Bawa says:

    @ Masood Ahmad

    Bawa

    Jenab wo zara establishment ka …. ghar ka ….. na …..

    “daman pe koee cheenta na khanjar pe koee daagh
    tum qatal karo ho ya karamaat karo ho.”

    وہ میں نے جوابا لکھا تھا. اس سے اوپر دیکھیں اس نے کیا لکھا تھا

  5. justice says:

    @Masood Ahmed
    I agree with you 100%.
    I want to add this too.It is the army as institution that is corrupt.It is not only the generals.I talk to their Majors,Colonels and they no regard for civilian institutions.They do not believe in the constitution of Pakistan as a sacred document.
    I am saying this with great responsibility that their view is the same about the constitution as it is for the politicians since the former is the product of the later.They believe that constitution is unjust and useless since it was formulated by the politicians who corrupt,dishonest and unpatriotic.

    If Pakistani Nation stood up against Sufi Muhammad for not believing in our collective will then we have to teach them a lesson of the rule of law as well

  6. Qasim ali says:

    They are not corrupt, they are the murderers of this Nation!
    Are we revived every single time to be killed once more?
    No!
    Don’t send them to prison & waste tax payers money!
    Hang them All…..Twice! Hang
    Although many of us avoid the truth, the truth is not really the enemy. Fear is the enemy.
    Fear paralyzes you. Fear makes you dishonest. Fear stifles your ability to move forward in
    your life. You can bet if there is opportunity out there for you, you are going to have to
    confront your fears in order to be able to get to it
    The tragedy of Pakistan is that the Pakistan’s presidential **“Palace” which is build with the sweat, bones and blood of the poor people of Pakistan has a pile of “Shit” as the top resident and a lot of the talking heads and the PPPP grave worshipers are trying to cover-up the stench of corruption, criminality, smell of burring flush and bones of Pakistani people, the decaying corpuses and the foul smell of the hungry Pakistanis mouths, smell of the garbage, the smell of dying and suffering peoples bodily fluids and screams of the poor people blowup in different places in Pakistan, with the incenses from the “graves of the Bhutto dynastical graves” and with the help of NRO, , the British Raj, this cover-up is falling apart.
    The only way to get rid of the foul smell of this human garbage is to flush him out of the Presidential Palace and sell this huge monument of arrogance and residence of Pakistani Family Mafia bosses and military dictators and use that money to help the poor and built a small president house to reflect the true per capita income of Pakistanis.
    There is no justification, such as democracy to keep this foul person at the highest position of Commander-n-a thief of Pakistan.
    **(official residence of sovereign: a grand and imposing building that is the official residence of a king or queen, a head of state such as a president, or a high-ranking aristocrat or church dignitary 2. large building for entertainment: a large public or private building with an imposing ornate style, used for entertainment or exhibitions

  7. chillinwave says:

    @Bawa:
    Ager koi achi bat ker hi rha hai Govt ki Coruption ko Bnaqab Ker rha hai
    Or Hamain oppertunity provide ker rha hai k hum Next election mai
    APna vote sahi Personality ko cast kren tou kya bura hai.

    As well as Army is concerned we cant blame the whole army due to some
    Corupt ARMY CHIEFS….Zia-yl-Haq was not the deserving one for that post n the same with MUsharaaf __they both were “SIFARSHI” of the PM of their times n the Rsults rae
    everyone knows….. but this Govt whatever is doin everyone knows n ppl started saying now that MARTIAL LAW was better __No electricity No Gas no Water even no jobs now
    I dont like any army Chief to Take Over the Country but Democretic Govt…n the performance level ___its 0/0.

  8. Qasim ali says:

    Although many of us avoid the truth, the truth is not really the enemy. Fear is the enemy.
    Fear paralyzes you. Fear makes you dishonest. Fear stifles your ability to move forward in
    your life. You can bet if there is opportunity out there for you, you are going to have to
    confront your fears in order to be able to get to it

  9. Qasim ali says:

    Today Pakistan climbing on the notorious ladder of corruption is number 42 .This is all gift of bribery looting, and robbing of public wealth and treasury, while on the other side of the coin reality is 18 million people’s heads are bowed with shame and only shame, not only because 1/3 of the population is living, beneath poverty level, while their county has major irrigation system of the world, and 75% land is agricultural, self sufficient not only for population but also to export surplus
    They are just trying to be lucky for one last time so that they could loot this nation with both the hands, legs and that Big Mouth
    When we beat them up…Obviously they are going to shout, cry & weep!
    Thousands of People who died due to terrorism FLOOD,
    Thousand who were literally murdered by these corrupt people
    By denying them what they deserved
    By looting their dreams, Hopes, Hard work and talent
    When they suffered & were suffering…These People were checking their Bank Statements

    They are not corrupt, they are the murderers of this Nation!
    Are we revived every single time to be killed once more?
    No!
    Don’t send them to prison & waste tax payers money!
    Hang them All…..Twice! Hang
    Although many of us avoid the truth, the truth is not really the enemy. Fear is the enemy.
    Fear paralyzes you. Fear makes you dishonest. Fear stifles your ability to move forward in
    your life. You can bet if there is opportunity out there for you, you are going to have to
    confront your fears in order to be able to get to it

  10. Bawa says:

    @ chillinwave

    کمال ھے جناب. فوجی کی کرپشن کا لکھیں تو جواب ملتا ہے کہ ساری فوج کرپٹ نہیں ہے. دو چار سیاستداں کرپٹ ہوں تو لکھا جاتا ہے کہ سیاستداں کرپٹ لوگ ہیں

    ما شا الله کیسے معیار ہیں ہمارے – فوج اور سیاستدانوں کے لیے

  11. saleem raza says:

    باوا جی؛آور محترمہ بلیک شیپ صاحبہ ؛؛؛ اور کوی حاضر سروس دوست اُس کو بھی السلام و علیکم ۔
    کوی پروگرام دیکھنے والا بھی ھے ؛یا سب سننے والے ہی ھیں

  12. Bawa says:

    @ saleem raza

    و علیکم السلام سلیم رضا بھائی. ابھی تک تو کوئی دیکھنے والا پروگرام نہیں آیا سب سننے والے ہی ہیں. آنٹی فردوس عاشق اعوان جاوید چوہدری کے پاس تشریف فرما ہیں. ان سے ملنا ہے تو بسم الله کریں

    :)

  13. بلیک شِیپ says:

    @ Bawa @ Saleem Raza

    لگتا ہے جاوید چوہدری اور فِردوس عاشِق اعوان کے بیچ میں کچھ خطرناک چل رہا ہے
    😉 😉

  14. chillinwave says:

    @ BAWA:

    Sir ji ! Zardari +Bilawal(bad drinker)
    PM Gilani +His wife + 2 sons
    Babaer Awan (distributed a huge amount to the Lowers during the Bar Elections)
    Qamaer zaman Qaira(Sponsors some Channels n journalists)
    Rehman malik…..Sherry rehman
    azam swati
    Raja Aftab, the joint secretary had been arrested by FIA officials(HAJ SCANDLE)
    Hamid Saeed Kazmi (haj scandle)
    Moonis Elahi(N.I.C.L.)
    Nawaz Shareef + Shahbaz Shareef
    Sharmila Farooqui (the daughter of Usman Farooqui (Ex- Steel Mill Chairman)

    n Many more………………

  15. Bawa says:

    @ chillinwave
    BAWA:

    Sir ji ! Zardari +Bilawal(bad drinker)
    PM Gilani +His wife + 2 sons
    Babaer Awan (distributed a huge amount to the Lowers during the Bar Elections)
    Qamaer zaman Qaira(Sponsors some Channels n journalists)
    Rehman malik…..Sherry rehman
    azam swati
    Raja Aftab, the joint secretary had been arrested by FIA officials(HAJ SCANDLE)
    Hamid Saeed Kazmi (haj scandle)
    Moonis Elahi(N.I.C.L.)
    Nawaz Shareef + Shahbaz Shareef
    Sharmila Farooqui (the daughter of Usman Farooqui (Ex- Steel Mill Chairman)

    n Many more………………

    بھائی جی. آپکی مان لی. سیاستدان سارے گندے ہیں، کرپٹ ہیں اور فوجی سارے فرشتے ہیں اور ہر عیب سے پاک ہیں

    :) :)

  16. chillinwave says:

    @Bawa said:
    بھائی جی. آپکی مان لی. سیاستدان سارے گندے ہیں، کرپٹ ہیں اور فوجی سارے فرشتے ہیں اور ہر عیب سے پاک ہیں

    No i didnt say that FAUJI ARE THE ANGELS.
    They’re corrupt as well but some of them not all n Politicians… all r not Corrupt
    but who r not corrupt r trying to defend the CRRUPTS what to do?

    My Point is at least now we must choose the right one for casting our vote in the Next elections.

  17. Masood Ahmad says:

    @chillinwave

    The problem is whatever written above politicians could be true, or in most cases it is true.
    If all of that is true, still it would make it around 100, 200 or let’s say 300 corrupt politicians.

    You know politicans are mostly the same for last two decades, but just count on the 65 year history of army. How many majors, colonels, brigadiars, major generals, leftinent generals and full generals. Just make a rough count of that, and calculate the sum of their priviligaes over 65 years, trust me that’s gona be more that pakistan’s poor people’s budjet for 65 years.

    Whether we like it or not, that’s the harsh reality. Tell me a single country in the world other than Pakistan where an army general lives on a multi acer land house, such as that of core commander lahore ? … just give me one example ?

    Tell me one other country in the world where an army person can wave a V style two fingers to pass through any bridge/road/tol-tax …. just tell me one example ?

    Tell me one other country in the world where the wives/daughetrs/sons of army generals do shopping on official cars/mercedeze and in some cases travel from one city to other on c-130’s fueled by public money.

    Yaar na khulwaoo mera moon … warna pkpolitics admin ne mughey block kar daina hai … can say a lot more … but just holding myself back …..

  18. Bawa says:

    @ chillinwave

    Bawa said:
    بھائی جی. آپکی مان لی. سیاستدان سارے گندے ہیں، کرپٹ ہیں اور فوجی سارے فرشتے ہیں اور ہر عیب سے پاک ہیں

    No i didnt say that FAUJI ARE THE ANGELS.
    They’re corrupt as well but some of them not all n Politicians… all r not Corrupt
    but who r not corrupt r trying to defend the CRRUPTS what to do?

    My Point is at least now we must choose the right one for casting our vote in the Next elections.

    یہ ہماری خواہش تو ہو سکتی ہے ہمارا اختیار نہیں ہے. فیصلے کا اختیار تو عوام کے پاس ہے کہ وہ کسے حکمران بنانا چاہتے ہوں

  19. chillinwave says:

    @Masood Ahmad

    Tell me one other country in the world where the wives/daughetrs/sons of army generals do shopping on official cars/mercedeze and in some cases travel from one city to other on c-130’s fueled by public money.

    Yaar na khulwaoo mera moon … warna pkpolitics admin ne mughey block kar daina hai … can say a lot more … but just holding myself back …..

    Yes right ,I agreed 100% but still i dont say that the army officers are the angels n only
    Politicians are Corrupt … what my point is that if there’s someone talks abt the corruption of politicians the y our attitude is like
    ” mai chor hun tou tuu bhi tou chor hai __ager isko chor kaha hai usko bhi chor kao”
    y dont we aware of all these things n y cant we use our vote in a proppers way n what is the present political senario it’s only because of the army?
    ppl r dying due to henger selling the kids n their body parts it’s all because of Army ?
    Who’s responsible? not only Politicians n not only “majors, colonels, brigadiars, major generals, leftinent generals ” but the whole Corrupt Class.

  20. chillinwave says:

    @Bawa:

    یہ ہماری خواہش تو ہو سکتی ہے ہمارا اختیار نہیں ہے. فیصلے کا اختیار تو عوام کے پاس ہے کہ وہ کسے حکمران بنانا چاہتے ہوں

    Exactly !what i’m trying to say that “achi bat kahan se aati hai kon kerta hai HAROON RASHID ya koi or journalist but my point is that they’re helping us to make our vision clear
    n letting us know about the corrupt ppl at least we can know who’s better for us n
    we can use our vote as our power we must think individually why should wait for the
    other to take a better step.

  21. Bawa says:

    @ chillinwave
    Bawa:

    یہ ہماری خواہش تو ہو سکتی ہے ہمارا اختیار نہیں ہے. فیصلے کا اختیار تو عوام کے پاس ہے کہ وہ کسے حکمران بنانا چاہتے ہوں

    Exactly !what i’m trying to say that “achi bat kahan se aati hai kon kerta hai HAROON RASHID ya koi or journalist but my point is that they’re helping us to make our vision clear
    n letting us know about the corrupt ppl at least we can know who’s better for us n
    we can use our vote as our power we must think individually why should wait for the
    other to take a better step.

    آپ درست کہہ رہے ہیں

    لیکن مسئلہ یہ ہوتا ہے کہ کچھ لوگ کسی مخصوس وقت پر آکر اچھی باتیں کرنی شروع کر دیتے ہیں اور ہارون رشید صاحب ان میں سے ایک ہیں. یہ کالموں میں فوج کی اور جنرل کیانی کی بہت تعریف کرتے ہیں. کیا کبھی انہوں نے جنرل کیانی سے پوچھا ہے کہ سارے این آر او کی ڈیل میں مشرف حکومت کی نمایندگی کرکے اور این ار او کروا کر انہوں نے کرپشن کی حمایت اور اپنے حلف سے روگردانی نہیں کی

  22. khyam says:

    فوجیوں نے دو طرح کے کتے پال رکھے ھیں ایک الطاف گوہر اور اسکی اگلی نسل اور دوسرے کتے ھارون الرشید طرح کے۔۔۔۔۔جب فوج جرنیل سامراج کے ساتھ مل کر جدیدیت اور ماڈرنزم کا لبادہ اوڑہ کرعوام کو بےوقوف بناتے ھیں تو الطاف گوھر اور ھمایوں گوھر جیسے چند دلال صفت صحافی (صحافت سے معزرت کے ساتھ) اپنے گندے قلم سے فوجی آمروں کے قصیدے لکھتے ھیں اور اپنے اندر کی ساری سیاھی فوجیوں کے بدنما چہروں کو خوشنما دیکھانے میں صرف کر دیتے ھیں دوسری طرز کے کتے یا ھارون ارشید ٹاءپ کے دلال فوج کے نام نہاد مذہبی لبادہ اوڑہ کر آنیوالے منافقین آمروں کے قصیدے لکھتے ھیں اور بدلے میں نوازے جاتے ھیں۔ ایوب خان لبرل ازم کا لبادہ اوڑہ کر آیا تو الطاف گوھر نے اسے اپنے قلم سے ایک ھیرو بنا کر پیش کیا۔
    ضیاءالحق——————- مجسم منافقت، شر اور بدی کا نمایندہ، شیطان کا نطفہ۔۔۔اسکا قلمی پرچار کرنے والا اس سے بھی کئی گنا بڑا منافق چاھیے تھا اور یہ کام ابن ابی ء وقت ھارون الرشید نے کمال خباثت سے سرانجام دیا۔ مشرف جسں کی رگوں میں ایک طوائف کا خون تھا جو ایک ناچنے والی ماں کے زیرتربیت بروان چڑھا جب اس نے اپنے حرامی پن کا ثبوت دیتے ھوے اقتدار پر قبضہ کیا تو اس نے ناچ گانے، کنجریوں، کال گرلز اور عیش و عشرت کو ماڈرن ازم اور اپنی پہچان کے طور پر پیش کیا تو حرامی ابن حرامی ھمایوں گوھر نے اپنا قلم اٹھا لیا اور گوبر کو سونا بنا کر پیچنے کی کوشش کی اب کیا نی کی با ری ھے کیانی ابن ابی کے پیروکار کے طور پر اسلام کا نعرہ لگا کر لوگوں کو بےوقوف بنانے کی کوشش کر سکتا ھے اور “اس بازار کی جنس ارزاں“ ھارون الرشید، کیانی کا سرکاری قصیدہ گو بننے کی پریکٹس شروع کر چکا ھے۔۔۔آخر ھارون ارشید کو اس دلالی کے سوا آتا بھی کیا ھے۔۔۔

  23. Waiz says:

    Fauj buri hai + PTI buri hai + PML(N) buri hai … oh bhai mairey acha koun hai. Agar PPP aur MQM kaha tu durr fitay monh.

    Nuks nikalney main saarey expert hain, bhai jaan koi solution bi tu batawoo. Kiya kia jaye kay Pakistan mai istahkaam aa jaye?

  24. بلیک شِیپ says:

    @ Waiz said:

    Kiya kia jaye kay Pakistan mai istahkaam aa jaye?

    ——————————————————————————————————–

    اِس ویب سائِٹ پر منہ دھو کر آیا جائے
    😀 😀

  25. بلیک شِیپ says:

    @ Waiz said:

    BlackSheep: Aap tu phir sara din gulskhaney mai hi guzar daitey hoon gai.

    ——————————————————————————————————–

    نہیں بھائی میرے دِل میں آپ جیسا درد نہیں ہیں
    افسوس صد افسوس
    :-( :-(

  26. justice says:

    @Bawa
    Nawaz Sharif in the current situation is the best choice.He is the only one standing against the Army establishment, defending a very weak democracy and also preventing them from playing their games.
    MQM+JUI-F are so mad at Nawaz sharif because he did not let either one of them black mail PPP.

    No one is perfect but we have to find the best person to do a very difficult job of saving pakistan from this mess.
    Many people can rightfully disagree in favor of IK and as much as I respect IK and his supporters I do not think he has the capability or the team required to fulfill this task.Also IK has just been wrong on war on Terrorism while he was against the swat operation whole country was in favor of it.

  27. zeeshanhussain says:

    I would like to say some things hope you will accept this.only parachinarian(kurram agency people) are against of taliban and they have defeated them by great margin.they are only one nation and only fight for pakistan but government didn’t help the people of parachinar.many people has sacrificed their self and left their childrens,sister,mom,dad etc.no one is asking about these people,they are against of any kind of terrorism.the government of pakistan says on the saying of USA leaders because pakistani leaders afraid from america not from GOD.CURSED ON THIS LEADERS

  28. Masood Ahmad says:

    @Waiz

    For me if i look back for last 4/5 years, the true and credible politics has been done by Nawaz Sharif. He is the only one fighting against establishment and has the courage of sticking to his stance. Look at judiciary movement, his stance on musharraf and his sincerety to democracy.

    In his career for first 10/15 years, he committed some mistakes but now he is turning out to be a mature politician. He is not the end of the road by any means, by better in many proportions from the rest of the available choices.

  29. Bawa says:

    @ justice
    Bawa
    Nawaz Sharif in the current situation is the best choice.He is the only one standing against the Army establishment, defending a very weak democracy and also preventing them from playing their games.
    MQM+JUI-F are so mad at Nawaz sharif because he did not let either one of them black mail PPP.

    No one is perfect but we have to find the best person to do a very difficult job of saving pakistan from this mess.
    Many people can rightfully disagree in favor of IK and as much as I respect IK and his supporters I do not think he has the capability or the team required to fulfill this task.Also IK has just been wrong on war on Terrorism while he was against the swat operation whole country was in favor of it.

    آپ سے سو فیصد متفق ہوں

  30. Bawa says:

    @ ukpaki1
    salam
    bawa bhai

    thanks for ur reply, maine bhi aap ko reply kr dia tha, in case aap ne na check kia ho, is lie yahan likha.

    و علیکم السلام بھائی جی. آپکی میل تو میں نے اسی وقت پڑھ لی تھی لیکن جواب نہ لکھ سکا. معزرت خواہ ہوں. جلد ہی لکھوں گا

  31. block says:

    Hamid Mir I do understand your pain when Talbans are killed during drone attacks.You were always talban supporter and has no Credibility to talk about on such issues after your famous tel conversation.

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