February 1, 2011

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Tunisian wave has sparked Egyptians to rise against a dictator that was holding absolute power for decades. The dictator Hosni Mubarak is repeating same sequence of mistakes that Pakistani military dictator performed in his last few years and refusing to accept the voice of nation.

The US, who only supports the powerful dictators, is now claiming to support the people, while cautiously weighing options with focus on how to serve the best interest of neighbouring Israel.

Some of the amazing videos from Egypt are being shared – please feel free to share any more in the comments.

169 Comments

  1. This situation reminds me of Musharaf’s last days in power. That was a turning point for Pakistan’s political system and the country as a whole but unfortunately, we did not learn from our past mistakes and once again all that hard work and effort we put in to remove a dictator resulted and replaced with another corrupt government. I hope and pray that does not happen in Egypt. We will soon witness a new middle east emerging with new faces and new political setups.

    Pakistan is at the brink of similar events. Zaradri and his team need to act fast and provide relief to the common people otherwise they would march towards Islamabad and kick these so called leaders out of their fortresses.

  2. Bawa says:

    میرے وطن کے اداس لوگو
    نہ خود کو اتنا حقیر سمجھو

    کہ کوئی تم سے حساب مانگے
    خواہشوں کی کتاب مانگے

    نہ خود کو اتنا قلیل سمجھو
    کہ کوئی اٹھ کر کہے یہ تم سے

    وفائیں اپنی ہمیں تھمادو
    وطن کو اپنے ہمیں تھما دو

    اٹھو اور اٹھ کر بتا دو ان کو
    کہ ہم اہل ِایمان ہیں سارے

    نہ ہم میں کوئی صنم کدہ ہے
    ہمارے دل میں تو اک خدا ہے

    میرے وطن کے اداس لوگو
    جھکے سروں کو اٹھاکے دیکھو

    قدم تو آگے بڑھاکے دیکھو
    ہے اک طاقت تمہارے سروں پر

    کرے گی سایہ جوان سروں پر
    قدم قدم پر جو ساتھ دے گی

    اگر گرے تو سنبھال لے گی
    میرے وطن کے اداس لوگو

    اٹھو چلو اور وطن سنبھالو

    عظیم تم ہو – عظیم تم ہو

    صلیـــــــــــــب پر مسکرانے والـــو

    سلام تم پر – سلام تم پر

  3. faiyaz says:

    For this kind of revolution you need real men and unfortunately we do not have any. when the Egyptian masses are out on the street for more than a week the Pakistani masses are enjoying the bollywood movies at their homes. Last week a few so called men raped three eunuch at a wedding party in Lahore. This speaks how manly we are.
    KHUDA NE AAJ TAK US QAUM KI HALAT NAHI BADLEE
    NA HO JIS KO KHAYAN AAP APNE BADALNE KA

  4. Protesters flood Egypt streets

    More than a million protesters flooded into central Cairo, turning Tahrir Square in the Egyptian capital, into a sea of humanity as massive protests against President Hosni Mubarak swept across Middle East’s most populous nation.

    Packed shoulder to shoulder in and around the famed Tahrir Square, the mass of people on Tuesday held aloft posters denouncing the president, and chanted slogans “Go Mubarak Go” and “Leave! Leave! Leave!

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/20112113115442982.html

  5. ہم دیکھیں گے
    ہم دیکھیں گے
    لازم ہی کہ ہم دیکھیں گے
    وہ دن کہ جس کا وعدہ ہے
    جو لوح ازل میں لکھا ہے
    ہم دیکھیں گے
    لازم ہی کہ ہم دیکھیں گے
    وہ دن کہ جس کا وعدہ ہے

    جب ظلم و ستم کے کوہ گراں
    روئی کی طرح اڑ جائیں گے
    جب ظلم و ستم کے کوہ گراں
    روئی کی طرح اڑ جائیں گے

    ہم محکوموں کے پاؤں تلے
    یہ دھرتی دھڑ دھڑ دھڑکے گی
    اور اہلے حکم کے سر اوپر
    جب بجلی کڑ کڑ کرکے گی

    لازم ہی کہ ہم دیکھیں گے
    ہم دیکھیں گے
    ہم دیکھیں گے

  6. saif says:

    What is hell is this ? why we r talking about Egypt ? r our problems have solved ? its true we dont have to do with this so called REVOLUTION (Albaradi, other Hosny Mubarak).This is the problem of Pakistanies that they dont solve their own problemb but others.Zamana qiyamat ki chaal chal gaya and we r worried about Egypt(enemy of Pakistan).when we will concentrate on our own problems we will come out of this hell (Democrazy).Pakistan is on this stage because we were worried about OTHERS ,never we worried for Pakistan naither AWAM nor Hukmaran so please for GOD sake forget about ARAB Muslim World otherwise we dont have much time to save Pakistan(from thousand siyasi shaheeds ).

  7. ConcernedAmericanPak says:

    Tunisia and Egypt: Why Now?

    By Lawrence Davidson

    Feburary 01, 2011 ” — If the recent events in Tunisia and Egypt tell us anything it is that predicting the beginning of mass unrest is very difficult. Indeed, it is probably easier to predict the stock market. What one can do, however, is describe conditions that are likely to create a context conducive to such unrest. What might those be?

    1. First and foremost are poor economic conditions that are believed unnecessary by a suffering population. In our day and age this condition is easy to meet. There are many areas of the world where economies are stagnant, held hostage by international organizations like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, unable to feed usually growing populations, and most importantly, unable to employ a growing percentage of their adult population, including highly educated middle class individuals. And, in age of worldwide instant communication, no one really believes that such conditions are the way things have to be. Muhammad Bouazizi, the young man who, through an act of self-immolation, sparked the revolt that brought down Tunisia’s dictator, was responding to years of economic frustration.

    2. Police and/or military repression is the second condition that increases the probability, at least in the long run, of resistance and revolt. In a country where unemployment is high, the army and the police become primary employers. But, those so employed are separated out from the rest of the population as an arm of a government that is unpopular. They often act with impunity. That is they are above the law and not its servants. If their salaries are sub-standard or they are not well supervised the police may well turn criminal. And their usual crime is extortion. Muhammad Bouazizi committed suicide after police took away his only source of living. They confiscated his street stall in part because he could not afford to pay off those in authority.

    3. Thus, rampant corruption is a third ingredient often found in societies that are vulnerable to popular revolution. When questioned about employment possibilities, a young man from Bouazizi’s town, Sidi Bouzid, responded, “Why don’t I have a job? Because I would have to pay people connected to the president’s family to receive one. They take everything from us, and give us nothing.”

    Egypt too reflects this mix, though in different ways than does Tunisia. In Egypt unemployment is very high, particularly among the young and college graduates. Having a highly educated labor force that is chronically unemployed or under employed is always a dangerous mix. Repression is also high in what amounts to a police state with rigged elections and torture chambers in the basements of local jails. Corruption is pervasive in Egypt. Everyone knows that those close to the dictator control the economy. You want something done, you have to cut them in.

    While the three conditions listed above might be necessary to the eventual outbreak of mass unrest, at least in the non-Western world, they are not sufficient. Zine Ben Ali was Tunisia’s dictator for 23 years. Hosni Mubarak has “led” Egypt for 30 years. Conditions in both countries have been ripe for a popular uprising for much of that time. So what is the missing ingredient? It is probably not one thing, but rather a chain of things. Here is the surmise put forth by my wife, the anthropologist Janet Amighi:

    A. The default positions among the population of these dictatorships are fear and passivity.

    B. Then something particularly outrageous (Bouaziz’s public suicide) or inspiring (successful revolt in Tunisia) occurs.

    C. This event is enough to overcome the fear and passivity of a small number of people who publically protest.

    D. For whatever reason they are not immediately suppressed and this encourages others to take the chance of coming into the streets.

    E. At this point the authorities have a choice. You either come down very hard on the protestors, which usually includes shooting many of them down, or you positively respond to their demands. Or sometimes the authorities are so stunned and uncertain they just do nothing. In 1989 in China the government choose to shoot the people in Tianamen Square. In Tunisia and also in Iran of the Shah, and now in Egypt too, the government hesitated or, as seems likely in the case of Tunisia, the army refused to shoot down the citizenry.

    F. Whatever the reason, hesitation on the part of the government that goes on long enough changes the default norms. Passivity and fear ebb and all the discontent and hatred that has built up over the decades comes pouring out. At that point the days of most dictatorial regimes are numbered.

    For a very long time now the U.S. has put its money on the dictators. Washington has bought both them and their armies so as to have the leverage to economically exploit their countries and dictate their foreign policies. We officially call this arrangement “stability.” It works most of the time because most people are in fact passive and fearful. Yet, at the same time the U.S. government has presented itself as the champion of democracy. This is mostly for domestic American consumption, but it does make it difficult for Washington to turn around and advocate the slaughter of protestors in those rare moments when such a choice presents itself.

    However, that does not mean there are not those among us who have not and would not again do just that or worse. Henry Kissinger and his Chilean friend Augusto Pinochet come to mind.. More recently there are the neo-conservatives. As far as I am concerned, Jimmy Carter did the right thing by advising the Shah of Iran not to slaughter those he had so long oppressed. And, just so, Barack Obama has (at least so far) done the right thing by advising Hosni Mubarak and his generals not to slaughter the people of Egypt. However, there is little doubt that Mubarak would have gotten a very different message from George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and the entire gang that ran the U.S.A. only a few years ago.

    The future outcomes of these popular revolts are also difficult to predict. Unless the protesting elements have strong organization and a clear notion of how they want their future to look, these things can peter out as quickly as they erupt. Then the names of the dictators may change, but the repressive game stays approximately the same. That is also something Washington calls “stability”or, in the present case of Egypt, an “orderly transition.” Then again, once there is turmoil all manner of possible outcomes are possible. In Tunisia the dictator is gone and, right now, the country is calm as a new government is formed. In Egypt things are much more uncertain. It seems to me that the U.S. is presently backing Omar Suleiman, Mubarak’s newly named vice president. Suleiman was the head of the Egyptian Intelligence Services and is identified with policies of cooperation with Israel, particular when it comes to Gaza. He can be relied upon to be Washington’s man in Cairo. Yet the likelihood of the Egyptian people swapping Mubarak for Suleiman is highly unlikely. There is also the fact that the Muslim Brothers, who have kept a low profile so far, can put half a million additional protesting Egyptians in the streets within hours with little regard to the fact that this would certainly upset Secretary of State Clinton. They have expressed their willingness to cooperate with Mohammed El Baradei, someone much more acceptable to the general population than Suleiman.

    So you see, once the genie is out of the bottle so to speak, unless you, the government and its foreign supporters, are willing to kill a lot of people, you really can’t control the outcome. As in Tunisia, the Egyptian army has so far decided not to murder its own people. Therefore, we don’t really know how this is all going to play out in the land of the Nile.

    Professor Lawrence Davidson – Department of History – West Chester University

  8. Faarigh Jazbati says:

    ڈیل ہو گئی .. ڈیل ہو گئی
    انقلاب آ گیا ، آ کے چلا بھی گیا
    امریکا بھی خوش ، عرب حکمران بھی خوش
    عوام بھی خوش، لیکن عوام تو پہلے ہی خوش تھے
    یہ تو چند سر پھرے تھے جو جمہوریت جمہوریت کی رٹ لگا رہے تھے
    وہ تو خدا کا شکر کریں کہ امریکا نے منع کر دیا تھا ورنہ خصوصی پولیس ان کی چمڑیاں ادھیڑ دیتی

    لیکن یہ سناٹا کیوں طاری ہے ، لوگ تالیاں کیوں نہیں بجا رہے ، وہ گھروں کو کیوں نہیں جا رہے
    یہ یقیناً القائدہ اور طالبان ہونگے . اب تو قاہرہ اور اسکندریہ میں بھی ڈرون حملے کروانے پڑیں گیں
    چلو بی بی سی اور سی این این نے تو اپنی ٹون بدل لی ہے اور اب وہ میری زبان بول رہے ہیں
    لیکن یہ میرا اندر کا ڈر کیوں نہیں جا رہا ، مجھے اطمینان کیوں نہیں ہو رہا
    مجھے امریکا پر اطمینان کیوں نہیں ہو رہا ، یہ امریکا ہمیشہ ایسے ہی کرتا ہے ، مجھے مشرف نے بھی یہی بتایا تھا لیکن میں مانتا نہیں تھا
    میں کیا کروں ، میرا سعودیہ جانے کو بلکل بھی دل نہیں کر رہا ،
    راعمسیس تم ہی کچھ بتاؤ ، فرعونوں کے زمانے میں کیا کرتے تھے

    FJ

  9. aftab says:

    After watching the cowards speech the best present he can leave the Egyption people is his accumulated wealth over the past 30 years from corruption and a jet out of Cairo immediately otherwise the protestors should carry on and tell him to stick his offer of elections in September where the Sun does not *****.

  10. aftab says:

    Opposition politician George Ishak expressed dismay at the speech.

    “We are very disappointed and we are very angry. We have very clear demands and he denied everything that we demanded. He has to go now. I am afraid now of what will happen in the future,” he told the BBC.

    Leaders of the protests had called on Mr Mubarak to step down by Friday, when demonstrators were planning to march on the presidential palace.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12340923

  11. ukpaki1 says:

    salam
    american sponsored regimes in arab world r in danger. million march is expected towards the presidential house. a million is almost 1.25% of egypt’s total population. percentage is very less but million protestors in streets, a nightmare for hosni mubarak and obviously it could be a nightmare for any govt. under such sort of scenario.

    history tells us that end of dictatorship is very terrible and whenever any dictator exits rather a dictator is forced to exit, a big mess, filth and distorted structures r left behind. dictators don’t have support of ppl, they survive with the support of US.
    pakistanis have also endured four dictators and till date country hasn’t recovered from the side effects of those dictatorships and now america is getting its job done in pakistan by so called democratically elected govt. in pakistan either democracy or dictatorship, rulers always make sure that US and zionist’s interest is always served.

    as we have seen that 1.25% of total population of a country has almost brought a change. just for the sake of argument if same percentage of pakistan’s population which is approximately 2.2 million in number, if they manage to reach islambad , they also can get rid of filthiest establishment and bootlicking, subservient, faithful dogs of US.
    small incidents cause such big events, although in pakistan this thing is unlikely, yet not impossible.

    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis

  12. saleem raza says:

    مھجے تو لگ ریا ھے ؛مصر کا انقلاب بھی ؛کہیں کھایا پیا کھچ نہیں گلاس تو ڑا بارہ
    انے؛ تو نہیں ھو جاے گا ؛آگر اس نے اعلان کیا ھے کہ وہ انتخاب میں حصہ نہیں لیتا ؛
    تو پھر اس نے عوام کے اگے کون سا سر تسلیم خم کیا ھے

  13. saleem raza says:

    ہم نے تو ابھی پاکستان میں بھی اس کی تیاری کرنی ھے ؛
    چلو اس انقلاب کا رزلٹ دیکھ کر ہم لوگ آپنی حکمت عملی مرتب کریں گے

  14. KAWA says:

    All dictators are the same; At first act tough, raise your fists in the air, walk with your arms wide apart, talk tough, and so on..
    In reality, these are weaklings who use others to do their dirty work. They all meet the same fate and history never remembers them as honourable men. Yesterday it was Musharraf in Pakistan, then it was Muhammad VIII al-Amin of Tunisia, Now it’s Mubarik of Egypt, Looks like King Abdullah of Jordan will be next… Funny thing is, all these folks will blackened faces end up in London? Edgware Rd?
    ———————————————————————————————-
    CAIRO: Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said on Tuesday he will not seek re-election in September but rejected demands that brought a million people on to the streets around the country that he quit immediately.

  15. aftab says:

    Arwa Mahmoud in Tahrir Square tweets: “The army has unblocked one of the entrances to #tahrir and pro-regime protesters entered. Some with knives. Scores of injured #tahrir protesters carried back into the square.”

    The AFP news agency reports that at least 10 people were injured in the initial confrontation in Tahrir Square. Later, when pro-government demonstrators charged on horses on camels, at least six were dragged from their animals and beaten, it says.

  16. aftab says:

    15:00 New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof tweets: “In my part of Tahrir, pro-Mubarak mobs arrived in buses, armed with machetes, straight-razors and clubs, very menacing.”

  17. aftab says:

    1534: BBC world affairs editor John Simpson, in Tahrir Square, says: “I am among a group of Mubarak supporters. They have been preparing all sorts of weapons – pulling down iron railings, breaking up paving stones – and using them against anti-government protesters. There has been a kind of counter-attack by the pro-Mubarak groups, who are determined to force the remaining protesters out of the square. The soldiers are right here, sitting on their tanks, looking on and occasionally taking shelter, but are not trying to intervene. People know the army is not going to fire on either side, so their presence is not intimidating. The Mubarak supporters are forcing their way into the square through all the main entrances, and trying to force out the protesters gathered there.”

  18. aftab says:

    1548: Nadine Khedr in Cairo writes: “What is going on is a conspiracy to divide the Egyptians. We need educated political thinkers from the youth to emerge and negotiate with the government in order to have rational talks. Our demands are very legitimate.”

  19. aftab says:

    1549: Azza Raslan in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia writes: “The Arab world watches in shock as the official state-sponsored television in Egypt exercise their monopoly over the air, and spout their poor, biased and shoddy covering of the events. We cannot believe how divorced they are from the pulse of the nation and how oblivious they are of the shameful way they appear. We are all ashamed of what is going on in Egypt.”

  20. aftab says:

    Veteran left-wing academic Naom Chomsky tells Democracy Now that it is the “most remarkable regional uprising” he can remember, adding: “The US has an overwhelmingly powerful role there. Egypt is the second largest recipient of US military and economic aid. Obama himself has been highly supportive of Mubarak… This is one of the most brutal dictators of the region.”

  21. aftab says:

    Wael Nawara, secretary-general of opposition Ghad party, tells the BBC: “Whatever sympathy [President Mubarak] had from us yesterday, I think this sympathy has totally dried up. We have 500 injured in Tahrir Square just because he wants to stay in power for another few months. Why can’t he just step down now?”

  22. Mubarak backers open more fire at protesters
    “People are too tired to be terrified,” Al Jazeera television quoted a 33-year-old woman in the square as saying

    Gulf News Report Published: 07:25 February 3, 2011 Reader comments (0)

    Tahrir Square, the center of anti-government demonstrations, in Cairo, Egypt on Thursday, Feb. 3, 2011.
    Image Credit: AP
    Image 1 of 4 1234 Cairo: Five people lost their lives Thursday, as heavy gunfire pounded Cairo’s Tahrir Square.

    Egyptian Health Minister Ahmad Samih Farid told state television five had died and 836 were wounded in fighting which first erupted on Wednesday.

    Al Jazeera television showed footage of bodies being pulled on the street. The Qatar-based network also showed footage of soldiers detaining people. Women and children too have remained in the square.

    The crowds seeking an end to President Hosni Mubarak’s nearly three decades in power were still reeling from attacks hours earlier in which Mubarak supporters charged into the square on horses and camels, lashing people with whips, while others rained firebombs and rocks from rooftops.

    Live updates

    11:02am: Attacks against anti-government protesters in Cairo “appear to be organised,” Human Rights Watch says.

    10:40am: “Four were killed by gunshot – hit in the head,” Dr Mohammmad Ismail, treating the injured at a makeshift clinic in Abdul Menem Riad Square, next to Tahrir Square, told media.

    10:30am: A blogger on BBC, AZZA from Tahrir Square wrote “Everything is happening in front of the military and they are doing nothing to help. We are all falling one-by-one ” adding “People are coming to attack us. I don’t know who they are. I want to know what the world is doing watching us dying one by one. Do they want to wait until we are all dead, before they come out and say, ‘Hey, you did it’?”

    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/mubarak-backers-open-more-fire-at-protesters-1.756374

  23. Bawa says:

    صادق سلیم – لکھ دی لعنت تمھارے پاکستانی ہونے پر

    امریکہ کے ایسے نمک خوار بھی پاکستانی کہلاتے ہیں

    ریمنڈ ڈیوس کیس میں قومی وقار اور مقامی قوانین کو عالمی قوانین پر ترجیح نہیں دینا چاہئیے، تجزیہ نگار صادق سلیم

    http://www.jang.net/urdu/details.asp?nid=502838

  24. aftab says:

    Egypt violence: Cairo reaction

    I’m a 23-year-old British student who lives in 6th of October City with my parents. I spent five days straight in Tahrir Square, protesting with the Egyptian people.

    I’m studying Arabic at Cairo University and I’m worried about a lot of my friends who are still in the square but whom I can’t get hold of. I eventually left yesterday (Wednesday) to get some supplies like food.

    Tahrir Square has been the focal point of a great deal of violence At first the atmosphere was one of joy and it was like being at a festival but things soon got worse. The Egyptians were extremely friendly to me when I turned up and treated me like family.

    I think it is important to be involved. We all have responsibilities to demonstrate on the Egyptians’ behalf. You shouldn’t be afraid of your government. While we were in the square, many people had phone calls from friends in Alexandria saying that it was going to turn violent and Mubarak’s men were coming.

    A lot of violence is also taking place in the side streets near Tahrir Square. Many people involved haven’t slept or had any proper food in days.

    At one point, the undercover police tried to take me away because I was wearing an anti-Mubarak T-shirt. One woman tried to grab me and rip my shirt off – saying I should not be wearing it. Luckily a crowd came and we went to the army where I was able to convince them I was an innocent bystander.

    As I was leaving the square on Wednesday, there were about 20 to 30 Pro-Mubarak supporters standing on the other side of the railing, on Merit Basha, hiding behind the army, screaming, literally screaming at us, that we are “all going to die later” and that they “are coming to kill us”. They were also shouting vulgar and homophobic insults.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12355033

  25. aftab says:

    Vodafone – which was criticised among some quarters for allegedly co-operating with the Egyptian government in shutting down mobile communications and sending out pro-Mubarak messages – releases a statement defending its actions: “Under the emergency powers provisions of the Telecoms Act, the Egyptian authorities can instruct the mobile networks of Mobinil, Etisalat and Vodafone to send messages to the people of Egypt. They have used this since the start of the protests. These messages are not scripted by any of the mobile network operators and we do not have the ability to respond to the authorities on their content.\r”Vodafone Group has protested to the authorities that the current situation regarding these messages is unacceptable. We have made clear that all messages should be transparent and clearly attributable to the originator.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

    These are the kind of tactics the CIA will be advising the Mobarak Regime to do, they stay in the background, on TV the Yanks talk about human rights etc but away from the public it’s a different message, one of control and violence of the masses.

  26. aftab says:

    Samar M Samy in Mansoura, says: “The atmosphere is very tense. There was a lot of violence in the local square. There are food shortages and most of the supermarkets are out of supplies. The local farmers can’t tend to their farms. Seventy thousand(70,000) of the country’s most DANGEROUS CRIMINALS have been let loose so all young men are watching guard over their property. My dad has been threatened by thugs and my whole family is staying in because things have got very violent. Everyone is really irked at the governments poorly disguised officials whipping and beating its own people. We all feel like we are in some sort of twisted civil war – the ruling elite against the people. Everyone is scared about what might happen tomorrow. Many say they are willing to die, if that’s what it takes for Mubarak to leave.”

  27. aftab says:

    Karim Hamdy in Cairo, says: “I am not taking part in the Egyptian Revolution against oppression, deception and humiliation by the Egyptian ruling regime, because I am forced to protect my wife and daughter along with the brave men of Egypt from thieves, bullies and looters released from prisons. I feel cheated and betrayed by my own government, which I would never ever be able to trust again!” bbc news

    More tactics by CIA and Co.

  28. aftab says:

    Fatima in Leicester, UK, says: “My daughter is married to an Egyptian from Alexandria. She reports that her husband’s uncle was ordered to demonstrate for Mubarak today or he wouldn’t receive his pay check! The regime has a lot of tricks up its sleeve. I hope that Western governments are paying close attention to this oppression and deceit.”

  29. aftab says:

    Ahmed Rasheed in Cairo tells the BBC: “Two of my friends have been arrested – one is the blogger Sandmonkey. They were trying to get food and medical supplies. These thugs [supporters of Mubarak] are arresting people and delivering them to the secret police. I was at the protest last night and I got injured after a stone was thrown at my head. I’m going to go back today and get food and medical supplies, if I don’t get arrested.” Sandmonkey’s blog appears to have been suspended.

  30. aftab says:

    LithuanianObserver in Vilnius says: “I strongly support the protests. They remind me of what happened in Vilnius in 1991: when our people’s chose to live better they were met with tanks and guns, just as Egyptians who are facing Mubarak’s police forces dressed up as civilians. I hope Egyptian people will reach their goal to live as they want, not as Mubarak tells them.”

  31. aftab says:

    Khalid Abdalla is a prominent British Egyptian actor who has been protesting all week. He described to the BBC World Service the situation in Tahrir Square on Thursday morning in graphic detail: “We’ve had a very successful attempt at physical and psychological warfare on us all night. I myself have seen people with bullet wounds. I saw someone with a wound, a bullet to the head, and he had his brain coming out of his forehead. It’s been a very, very dark night and the atmosphere here is tense. People are exhausted. The wounded are absolutely everywhere. We’ve been under siege all night. Through the night they were also blocking the streets outside the square in order to stop people coming to us, in order to stop supplies coming in to us and we’ve also had reports of people who tried to leave also being arrested.”

  32. aftab says:

    The retired general talking to the BBC’s Jon Leyne had been speaking in turn to tank crews in Tahrir Square. The general said he believed the military would move very soon against Mr Mubarak – possibly as soon as tomorrow. Our correspondent says it seems the army is willing now to put its lot very firmly on the side of the protesters.

  33. aftab says:

    A BBC Arabic correspondent reports that more pro-democracy activists have been arriving in Tahrir Square. “The majority of those who support the president have now left the square. Opponents of the regime have stood their ground overnight despite coming under attack repeatedly. They are hoping they will be joined by others in order to maintain control of the square.”

  34. aftab says:

    Anti-Mubarak protesters hit back

    Egyptian anti-government protesters have fought back against supporters of President Hosni Mubarak, pushing them out of some streets near Cairo’s Tahrir Square which they controlled.

    Stones were thrown on both sides, and some gunshots have been heard.

    The army, which was trying to separate the two sides, appears to have failed to control the crowds.

    The clashes came as the vice-president said Mr Mubarak’s son Gamal would not stand for president.

    In a TV address on Tuesday, President Mubarak said he would stand down at presidential elections later this year, but said nothing about his son.

    Earlier PM Ahmed Shafiq apologised for the fighting, which killed nine and wounded hundreds.

    He pledged to investigate the violence, calling it a “disaster”.

    The protesters are demanding that Mr Mubarak, who has ruled for 30 years, step down immediately.

    The BBC’s Jeremy Bowen in Tahrir Square says they are now more determined than ever.

    The square looks for the first time like a revolutionary scene, with barricades, flags and men with bandages around their heads, he adds.

    Separately, there were reports of attacks on foreign journalists, with Mubarak supporters storming a number of Cairo hotels.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12357891

  35. aftab says:

    Wael Hassan, told us how he delivered medical supplies to Tahrir square. “I went early in the morning. They checked my ID and let me get inside. I passed on the medication and went home again to collect more money and buy more things. I bought more gloves, as they needed gloves, food and water. I parked the car near the bridge, which is opposite the main entrance. At this moment, government thugs were organising themselves in front of the main entrance. They were holding sticks and started looking at my bag. Luckily there was an army officer close to me, so they didn’t touch me. I went inside and I managed to take footage and pictures. When I got out, they started to walk towards me. I thought they’d want my camera, so I ran towards my car and fled.”

  36. aftab says:

    Shahira Amin, was until yesterday a journalist with the state-run Egyptian channel, Nile TV. She told the BBC World Service that she had to leave her job because she no longer felt able to report the state view when what she saw on the street was so different: “We were basically showing the pro-Mubarak rallies all day long, as if that was the only thing that was happening. I couldn’t show what was happening here in Tahrir. I couldn’t even report the figures as they were. So no thank you. I feel liberated.”

  37. aftab says:

    A very significant announcement reported by AFP from Algeria, too. President Abdelaziz Bouteflika says the state of emergency that’s been in place will be lifted “in the very near future.

  38. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Khaled Ezzelarab reports: One protestor killed in Abdel Monem Riyad Square in central Cairo, many more injured, among them three in critical condition.

  39. aftab says:

    New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof tweets: “Govt is trying to round up journalists. I worry about what it is they’re planning that they don’t want us to see.” bbc news

    it doesn’t matter because in this day and age, everyone is journalist.

  40. aftab says:

    BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says: “Human Rights Watch tell me ‘Egypt’s state repression and abuse are coming out of the torture chambers and on to the street.'”

  41. aftab says:

    Iran’s al-Alam TV reports that “a group of thugs” has beaten up one of their crews in Alexandria, and intelligence agents have confiscated their equipment.

  42. KAWA says:

    Every dictator behaves identical when he sees his end is coming. How Mubarik is behaving to save his seat is exactly what Musharraf tried in the end. The killings in Cairo by his goons is exactly what Musharraf had his MQM goons do for him on May 12th in Karachi.

    A year from now, after Mubarik is booted out and resides somewhere on Edgware Rd in London, his goons back in Egypt would raise cries of greater democracy and revolution. After that fails, they would call the generals a burden on Egyptian society.

    East or West, dictators and supporters of dictators wear the same skin.

  43. KAWA says:

    @aftab
    I agree with you. Also see my previous comments.
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    aftab said:

    Yah Suleiman both barha ****** hay, after instigating the murder of so many peaceful protestors he is now playing the MQM game.

  44. aftab says:

    Reuters reports 10 people have died in clashes in Tahrir Square on Thursday, and a doctor at the square told the agency: “An hour an a half ago, two people were rushed to me with gunshot wounds to the head. They were gasping and died.”

  45. aftab says:

    @ Kawa

    Both Shukriya Jinaab

    These people are literally paying with they blood and in years to come we can tell our future generations proudly of the sacrifices given by these brave and courageous souls.

  46. aftab says:

    And Clinton saying those who commit violence are accountable, yes i am sure there are accountable when they strings are being pulled from the US Embassy in Cairo.

  47. aftab says:

    Another headline from Vice-President Suleiman’s state TV interview: he says the country has lost “at least $1bn” in tourism revenue and one million tourists have left during the turmoil.

  48. aftab says:

    Mona Sahif, who is among the protesters, has given the BBC her description of the violence that erupted on Wednesday and continued overnight: “We started hearing gunshots and from that moment on it was really ugly. There were people among them with rifles they were aiming at our protesters. We had… people dying, we had one witnessed by two of my friends with a shot through the head. Our paramedics confirmed that at least eight were shot with live ammunition in their legs and five were shot either in the chest or head.”

  49. aftab says:

    BBC Arabic correspondent reports that more pro-democracy activists have been arriving in Tahrir Square. “The majority of those who support the president have now left the square. Opponents of the regime have stood their ground overnight despite coming under attack repeatedly. They are hoping they will be joined by others in order to maintain control of the square.”

  50. aftab says:

    Al-Jazeera journalist Gregg Carlstrom tweets: “Just tried to enter Tahrir Square near the museum and got held at knifepoint by pro-Mubarak thugs. Crowd is more aggressive than yesterday.”

  51. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Mark Georgiou in Cairo: “Breakfast in a hotel full of journalists from all over the world. Tales of confiscated camera gear and lucky escapes from those who want to stop us doing our jobs. One question comes up over and again: what do you think is going to happen? Will there be blood? Or, by some miracle, will the day pass peacefully? Last Friday, within minutes of prayers ending, it was full-on water cannon, tear gas and riot police charges. It’s different now. The pro-democracy movement hold Tahrir Square. It’s their turf and not an inch of it will be given up lightly. So, a different question: have the pro-Mubarak side got the numbers and the will to charge the barricades? We’ll know in a few hours.

  52. aftab says:

    While Christiane Amanpour was at the presidential palace, she also got a chance to talk to Vice-President Suleiman. He told her that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had not asked for Mr Mubarak to resign, and said that the Egyptian president was “a fighter” who had lived and would die on Egyptian soil. Here’s her account of the interview.

  53. aftab says:

    More on Egyptian state TV’s coverage from Khaled Fahmy of the American University in Cairo: “There are live broadcasts 24/7 showing only one side of the story, only one side,” he tells the BBC World Service. “I have not seen a single pro-democracy activist being interviewed on Egyptian TV. Egyptian TV’s message is basically stability. Mubarak represents stability.”

  54. aftab says:

    Sultan Sooud Al Qassemi tweets: “Unless the Meydan Tahrir protesters march to the Presidential Palace (14km/8miles away) it is unlikely that Mubarak will heed their call.”

  55. aftab says:

    More on detentions from Leila Soueif, wife of human rights lawyer Ahmed Hamad – reportedly one of those arrested yesterday. “We don’t know anything,” she tells the BBC. “We don’t know where they were taken. All that we know is that they were taken by military police.”

  56. aftab says:

    From BBC Security Correspondent Frank Gardner: Tellingly, one Arabic banner now showing in the live TV shot of Tahrir Square reads: “The people want the downfall of the system”, ie not just Hosni Mubarak the man.

    And This should be the aim of the revolutionaries otherwise no pint replacing Mobarak with another like minded person.

  57. aftab says:

    Jamal Moheb, a doctor who has been treating those injured during clashes on Thursday, said some have been treated for gunshot wounds: “We have firearms injuries. 6mm and 9mm bullets were used. The people here still have bullets in their bodies.”

  58. aftab says:

    Sultan Al Qassemi, a columnist for The National, tweets: “El Baradei: I met with nine protest leaders last night. When they left my house they were all arrested, these are Mubarak’s promises

  59. aftab says:

    Prominent activist Asma Mahfouz, one of the Tahrir Square demonstration’s leaders, says she has received death threats from members of the ruling NDP party. She told BBC Arabic TV: “I made a video asking people not to be scared, asking how long will we live in fear, that we should go to the streets and that there are plenty of men in Egypt, and we can protect ourselves from Mubarak’s thugs. But now I’m getting many threatening calls from Mubarak’s people ordering me not to leave my home, and saying that if I do I will be killed along with my family.”

  60. aftab says:

    Also in Tahrir Square is 75 year old retired UN official, Syed Zulfiqar, who tells the BBC World Service: “This is exceptional. I never expected that after 60 years of dictatorship, suddenly the people would wake up and have the courage to rise because the secret police are ferocious and they have been able to keep them at bay. Tunisia set the example, it set the spark. And obviously this was a tinderbox that was about to explode.”

  61. aftab says:

    Mohammad Rifaa Tahtawi, the spokesman for the Al Azhar Islamic institution, has resigned after announcing his support for the protests. He said he does not want his position to be seen as representing Al Azhar.

  62. aftab says:

    1621: Rosa Navarro, an American who was arrested and detained overnight at the Intelligence HQ, gives the BBC a disturbing account of her detention: “I went out with a friend yesterday to buy sim cards. We stopped by his house and while waiting for a cab we were approached by police officers in uniform. They asked us for our passports, released us and then came back two minutes later and we were arrested. We were interrogated and accused of being spies and in Egypt to bring down the Egyptian government. I was left blindfolded and sitting with around 50 or 60 other Westerners who had been picked up while waiting for a bus, or a taxi or just walking on the street. None of them, like myself, were arrested near the protest.”

  63. aftab says:

    Mubarak supporters have been staging a rally in the upscale Mohandessin district of Cairo. But witnesses say the turnout numbers in the dozens rather than the thousands.

  64. aftab says:

    More harrowing tales from journalists under attack in Egypt, this time Maram Mazen begins her report for Bloomberg: “Having a policeman say he wanted to kill me wasn’t my most frightening moment yesterday in Cairo.”

  65. norozkhan says:

    I like to ask our so called leaders who are big claimants of Democracy as to why they are so quiet at the liberation movement in Egypt. The only Muslim countries who have spoken in favor of protesters in Egypt are Turkey and now Iran.
    I guess our leaders are afraid to say anything as they themselves are not far behind from majority of Arab dictators who think it is their God given right to rule this country followed by their sons and daughters.
    I am anxiously waiting to go to Pakistan one day to take part in a real revolution.

  66. aftab says:

    Mosa’ab Elshamy writes in a couple of tweets: “We’re sitting in front of their tanks after the army tried to remove the barricades we set up near the museum. Thousands of protesters surrounding them now, making it clear the tanks will have to run them over before moving any further.

  67. aftab says:

    Amid all the chaos, President Mubarak is meeting key economy ministers, Egypt’s state news agency reports. The intended impression is presumably one of a man still very much in charge of the country. That image has taken a real battering in recent days – and so has the economy. It’s estimated to be losing more than $300m a day at the moment.

  68. aftab says:

    Writer and journalist Jon Jensen tweets: “American journalist @Theodore_May has been detained by army in Tahrir. He was filming prayers with a Flip cam at the time.

  69. aftab says:

    Raafat in Cairo, says: “To all of foreign countries – do not interfere in our internal matter, do tell us what he have to do. You call Mohamed ElBaradei an opposition leader, we, the Egyptian people do not consider him the opposition leader. We will let you know who is our opposition leader in the right time. It’s a bad choice, US and EU. Best wishes and sorry but you will not divide Egypt according to your secret plan.”

  70. aftab says:

    Journalist Theodore May describes in several tweets his detention experience: “Have been released after an hour+ detention by the military for filming with a Flip cam in Tahrir. No explanation was given for the detention, and I wasn’t mistreated. Was forced to delete the videos. At one point an officer wanted to send me off to the police or the intel services, but that didn’t end up happening. Very tough environment for journos, but my incident was less bad than 99% of others. I’m grateful for all those who helped, RT’d etc.”

  71. aftab says:

    In Munich, Mrs Clinton has just said reports of an assassination attempt on Egyptian Vice-President Omar Suleiman shows the challenges of the transition. There has been no confirmation so far of any attempts made on Mr Suleiman’s life.

    DAMN!!!!!

  72. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Jon Donnison in Jerusalem says witnesses in the northern Egyptian Sinai say the gas pipeline fire could be seen for miles. Israeli officials are calling it a “terrorist” attack – although there is no confirmation it is. For many in Israel, the incident highlights the strong trade ties their country has with Egypt, our correspondent says.\r

  73. aftab says:

    In the New York Times report we linked to earlier the journalists also described their detention by the dreaded Mukhabarat, the secret police. But far worse, they said, was listening to Egyptians being mistreated.

  74. aftab says:

    Looks like things may not be getting back to normal as quickly as the authorities would like. We’ve just heard the stock exchange will not be reopening on Monday, as previously announced. “A decision has yet to be taken on when it will resume business,” AFP quoted the state news agency as saying.

  75. aftab says:

    “Several people interviewed independently said that ruling party operatives had offered them 50 Egyptian pounds, less than $10, if they agreed to demonstrate in the square on Mr Mubarak’s behalf,” The New York Times reported, adding that the pro-Mubarak demonstrations seemed carefully orchestrated.

  76. aftab says:

    “The first step of the change and the first condition is: Mubarak, step down.” That’s what one of the Muslim Brotherhood’s leaders has just told the BBC’s Newshour programme.

  77. aftab says:

    Cherif Albert in Cairo disagrees. He says: “I cannot imagine how some people could hope for Hosni Mubarak to lead the so called “transition”. How could an 83-year-old man who never knew anything else but dictatorship and police state acquire the intellectual and cultural capacity to understand what democracy is all about, let alone implement it?”

  78. aftab says:

    Protester Mosa’ab Elshamy in Tahrir Square told the BBC: “Things are getting a little tense. The army is trying to remove the barbed wire around the square and if they succeed there will be nothing to stop people attacking us. We are trying to block the army by lying down next to the tanks. Everyone is remaining totally peaceful. There are no clashes yet. We are not getting fed up – in fact we are getting more accustomed to conditions living here in the square. Many people have said they are prepared to die here.”

  79. aftab says:

    We’ve just heard the army is trying to enter Tahrir Square. BBC Arabic correspondent in Cairo Mustafa Menshawy says dozens of soldiers have attempted to remove barriers set up by the protestors at one of the entrances to the square. He says a senior army official tried to negotiate the army’s entrance to parts of the square which led to arguments with the protesters, who accused the army of attempting to retake control of the square.

  80. aftab says:

    Mosa’ab Elshamy, one of the protesters we heard from a short while ago, says the army has moved some of its tanks in front the barricades at Tahrir Square. “They are trying to scare us to go home,” he told the BBC. He said the protesters wouldn’t go before Mr Mubarak left office – concessions and so-called regime changes were all just promises so far. “I don’t think it’s going to be easy to convince people here to leave before Mubarak is stepping down.”

  81. aftab says:

    : CNN’s Ivan Watson tweets: “Standoff. Egyptian Army tanks trying to push thru barricade into Tahrir Square. Opposition form human chain to stop them.

    The army have taken the side of the Dictator much like the Pakistan Military did when it sent Mush away with guard of honour.

  82. aftab says:

    By the way Omar Kamel in Cairo disagrees with one of our correspondents, Kevin Connolly. Omar sent this message to us a short while ago: “It is completely misleading to say that “the paralysis induced by the protests is having a huge impact on the creaking economy”. The paralysis has been caused by the complete disappearance of the police force and the curfews imposed by the government. As for the tourists they have been frightened away by the xenophobia created in the country by the government that maintains until now that the protests have been influenced by foreign agents from (depending on the government’s mood and level of desperation) the US, Israel, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Qatar, etc. The government created a mood of xenophobia and this was exacerbated by their attack on foreign journalists.”

  83. aftab says:

    BREAKING NEWS: Ursula Lindsey, writing in the Arabist blog, draws attention to activists detained by the secret police, publishing a list of people still unaccounted for: “Many Egyptian human rights activists arrested in the last few days remain in detention. A list of those detained follows after the jump. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of others that are also being detained, interrogated and tortured right now. Frightening as the attacks on foreign journalists have been, most of our colleagues have emerged relatively unscathed. It’s the Egyptians being rounded up by police and intelligence that I truly fear for.

  84. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Ian Pannell in Cairo says the army are stopping protestors from taking food into Tahrir Square. Angry demonstrators say the army “are trying to starve the people,” our correspondent says.

    Just like our darinda in GHQ the Egyption military is showing it’s ugly face.

  85. aftab says:

    “I think President Mubarak needs to be treated as he deserved over the years, because he has been a good friend,” said Mr Cheney, speaking at an event commemorating the centennial of President Ronald Reagan’s birth.

    The true face of the Yanks.

  86. Afridi Malik says:

    This treatment every leader in Muslim world deserves it.
    Just read the history of Muslim world, right after Khilafa same kind of oppressive regimes are ruling Muslims ever since.

    بلا عنوان

    RIYADH-The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh, condemned the riots in Arab countries, calling it “chaotic acts” carried out by “enemies of Islam”, to “divide” the Muslim world, according to comments reported Saturday by the local press.

    * “These chaotic acts come from enemies of Islam and those who serve them,” said the Mufti, who is known for his proximity to the Saudi monarchy, quoted by the daily Asharq al-Awsat.
    *
    * “Encouraging to revolt (…) is to hit the nation (Muslim) in her heart and break her,” he said during Friday prayers in Riyadh.
    *
    * The uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia “hit” the economies of Muslim nations “in a plot to turn them into backward countries,” said Mufti.

    http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/international/5716.html

  87. aftab says:

    Robert Fisk, the veteran British commentator on the Middle East, says time is running out for Egypt’s embattled president. “If Mubarak goes today or later this week, Egyptians will debate why it took so long to rid themselves of this tin-pot dictator,” he writes in the Independent. “The problem was that under the autocrats – Nasser, Sadat, Mubarak and whomever Washington blesses next – the Egyptian people skipped two generations of maturity. For the first essential task of a dictator is to ‘infantilise’ his people, to transform them into political six-year-olds, obedient to a patriarchal headmaster. They will be given fake newspapers, fake elections, fake ministers and lots of false promises. Only when the power of youth and technology forced this docile Egyptian population to grow up and stage its inevitable revolt did it become evident to all of these previously ‘infantilised’ people that the government was itself composed of children, the eldest of them 83 years old.”

  88. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Magdi Abdelhadi in Tahrir Square reports on the Coptic service held in the square: “Several Muslim prayers have been held in the square, but with this service, there was a political message from the Coptic community. This is an issue that unites all Egyptians. One of the messages seen on the square said that both the Bible and the Koran were against despotism; this is a show of solidarity that crosses sectarian divides in the country.”

  89. aftab says:

    Youth groups supporting the protests have formed a coalition. A statement by the “unified leadership of the youth of the rage revolution” insists they will not end their occupation of Tahrir Square until President Mubarak steps down.

  90. Afridi Malik says:

    Shumaila Faheem has died

    The wife of Faheem who was the victim of Raymond Davis has committed suicide and has passed away.

    Raymond Davis Case: Faheem’s widow commits suicide

    Raymond Davis Case: Faheem’s widow commits suicide
    Widow of Faheem committed suicide by taking poisonous pills. Faheem was shot dead by an American citizen Raymond Davis in Lahore. Faheem’s wife was urgently taken to hospital where doctors tried their best to save her life but she could not recover and died. Faheems brother told that the dead body of Shumaila was not handed over to the family despite the protest.

    Widow of Faheem committed suicide on Sunday by taking poisonous pills. Faheem was shot dead by an American citizen Raymond Davis in Lahore. Faheem’s wife was urgently taken to hospital where doctors tried their best to save her life but she could not recover and died. Faheems brother told that the dead body of Shumaila is not being handed over to the family despite the protest.
    According to sources, Shumaila stated that she was committing suicide because she was not expecting justice in Raymond Davis case. After suicide attempt, Shumaila was admitted to Allied Hospital, Faisalabad where she breathed her last.
    After Shumaila’s death, heavy contingent of police surrounded Allied Hospital and evacuated the ward whereas, Elite Force were deployed near the main gate of the hospital.

  91. aftab says:

    The ABC television network in the United States ran a report suggesting the Mubarak family fortune is as high as $70bn (£43bn).

    The figure would make them as rich as Mexican tycoon Carlos Slim and Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates put together.

    The family is believed to own properties in Manhattan, Beverley Hills, California and London’s upmarket Belgravia area.

    The Mubaraks are also reported to have large cash deposits in banks in Britain and Switzerland, and to have invested heavily in hotels and tourist businesses on the Red Sea.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12384276

  92. aftab says:

    Keen to get traffic moving around Tahrir Square, the army tried earlier to further reduce the area the anti-government protesters are occupying, according to the Reuters news agency. Many demonstrators rushed out of their tents to stop them. “The army is getting restless and so are the protesters. The army wants to squeeze us into a small circle in the middle of the square to get the traffic moving again,” said Mohamed Shalaby.

  93. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Jon Leyne in Cairo says: “There’s an active stand-off outside a forbidding government building on the edge of Tahrir Square, the Mugamma, where people go to get official paperwork processed. The government tried to reopen it by using a back entrance, but the protesters have formed a human chain to stop people entering. They are in a face-off with some soldiers, but the army has been instructed not to use force so it is resulting in deadlock – symptomatic of the whole country.”

  94. aftab says:

    Rosemary Hollis, the professor of Middle East policy studies at London’s City University, tells the BBC World Service that the US and Europe should tell Egyptian leaders “that there is no going back to how it used to be”. She also says she does not accept the argument by Egypt’s ruling National Democratic Party that certain procedures have to be followed for a transition of power to be successful. “You could jump over the procedures laid down in the constitution if you really wanted to. It’s the transition period that is the dilemma for everybody, because the Americans would love it if Egypt was a democracy, if Saudi was a democracy, and if Syria was a democracy, provided they got past the stage of the virulent anti-American, anti-Israel element in those societies surfacing,” she adds. “So they’re now wishfully thinking that they can have a transition to democracy that somehow controls the results.”

  95. aftab says:

    Kemal Helbawy, a senior member of the opposition Muslim Brotherhood based in London, tells the BBC that the talks between the opposition and the government were a waste of time. “The only result was to form a committee to look into constitutional amendments and this is nothing to do with the requirements of the protesters and the revolutionary forces,” he says. “It has nothing to do with the blood of 300 people who were killed or 5,000 people who were injured. It has nothing to do with corruption and dictatorship and underdevelopment. There should be practical steps against corruption, against dictatorship, against Mubarak himself.”

  96. aftab says:

    Ahmed Morsi from Alexandria, Egypt, writes: “I back the entering of Muslim Brotherhood in any opposition alliance negotiating the transition in Egypt. Any democratic regime must be representative of all the political factions in Egypt. The Muslim brotherhood is not a violent movement as the Egyptian government tries to portray it. They have been part of the 2005 secular Parliament and they were much more democratic than Mubarak’s party. They also repeated it in many occasions, they don’t seek the power. Their ideal is Turkey which is a secular state. Finally, the Egyptian people who made this revolt were very diverse, they are men, women, rich, poor, Christians and Muslims, all of them demanding freedom and human rights, so I really don’t see how they would back a theocratic Egypt. “

  97. aftab says:

    Mortada El-Shabrawi, a professor at Cairo University, tells Al Jazeera that professors will be marching today in support of the protests. They will march from their union in Doki, Giza, to Tahrir Square after noon prayers.

  98. aftab says:

    Wael Ghonim’s on his release

    “When you don’t see anything but a black scene for 12 days you keep praying that those outside still remember you. Thanks everyone

  99. Hundreds of thousands of Egyptians have poured into Cairo’s Tahrir Square for the latest protest calling for Hosni Mubarak’s government to step down.

    Correspondents say it is the biggest demonstration since the protests began on 25 January.

    It comes despite the government’s announcement of its plans for a peaceful transfer of power.

    President Mubarak has said he will stay until elections in September.

    In Tahrir Square, attempts by the army to check the identity cards of those joining the demonstration were abandoned because of the sheer weight of numbers.

    Our correspondent says the message to the authorities is simple – there is huge support from all walks of Egyptian life for the protests, and the government’s concessions are not enough.

    Wael Ghonim, a Google executive was detained and blindfolded by state security forces for 12 days, was feted by the crowds as he entered Tahrir Square.

    Continue reading the main story
    At the scene
    Yolande Knell

    BBC News, Cairo

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    The determination of people queuing to get into Tahrir Square in the late afternoon sun has not been dented by officials’ announcements of a series of concessions.

    “We don’t care what they are promising. Our demand is the same: Mubarak must leave,” says Mariam defiantly.

    A man standing behind her says the authorities have ignored the views of young people for too long. “I am 55 years old, I have tolerated this president for 30 years. This young generation is braver than mine. They have motivated us,” he insists.

    Some demonstrators concede that plans to make constitutional changes – which the opposition has long called for – were a positive step. They say release of the Google executive and blogger, Wael Ghonim, was another boost. Now the hope is that more can be achieved by keeping up large numbers in the heart of Cairo.
    He is credited with setting up the page on the Facebook social network that helped galvanise protesters.

    “We will not abandon our demand and that is the departure of the regime,” Mr Ghonim told protesters in the square, to cheers and applause.

    Referring to the protesters who have died in clashes with the security forces, he said: “I’m not a hero but those who were martyred are the heroes.”

    This latest demonstration, as the protests enter their third week, comes as normal life is returning to the streets of Cairo.

    Tuesday has also seen a large demonstration in Alexandria, and reports of similar protests in other Egyptian towns and cities.

    The protesters are continuing to call for Mr Mubarak to leave office immediately, and say they are sceptical about any transition managed by the government.

    In his response to the protests, President Mubarak has set up a committee to propose constitutional changes, and another is being formed to carry the changes out.

    Vice-President Omar Suleiman, who announced the formation of the new committees, said he had briefed Mr Mubarak on recent talks with the opposition, and the president had welcomed the process of “dialogue” and “national reconciliation”.

    “The president also underlined the importance of continuing [the process] and moving from guidelines to a clear map with a definite timetable” for a “peaceful and organised” transfer of power, he said.

    Among the key expected changes are a relaxation of presidential eligibility rules, and the setting of a limit for presidential terms.

    A third committee, expected to begin its work in the next few days, would investigate clashes between pro- and anti-Mubarak groups last week and refer its findings to the prosecutor-general, Mr Suleiman said.

    He also said President Mubarak had issued directives to stop repressive measures against the opposition.

    Fierce clashes

    The BBC’s Yolande Knell reports that some of the protesters in Tahrir Square concede that plans to make constitutional changes – which the opposition has long called for – are a positive step, but others are sceptical about Mr Suleiman’s intentions.

    “We don’t trust them any more,” Ahmed, one young Egyptian queuing to get into the square, told the BBC. “How can Suleiman guarantee there’ll be no more violence around the election after all the attacks we’ve seen on young people.”

    A middle-aged protester, Mustafa, said: “We are asking why there is no committee for young people. He has to ask the young people what they want – this is all about the young people.”

    The unrest over the last two weeks has seen fierce clashes with police, and pitched battles between protesters and Mubarak supporters.

    Human Rights Watch (HRW) researchers say they have confirmed the deaths of 297 people since 28 January, based on a count from seven hospitals in the cities of Cairo, Alexandria and Suez. No comprehensive death toll has been given by the Egyptian government.

    Some economic activity has resumed, but authorities have delayed reopening the stock exchange until Sunday. On Friday it was estimated that the paralysis resulting from the unrest had been costing the economy an average of $310m (£193m) a day.

    The number of those on Tahrir Square has been swelling each day and dropping back overnight.

    Meanwhile, leaked US diplomatic cables carried on the Wikileaks website have revealed that Mr Suleiman was named as Israel’s preferred candidate for the job after discussions with American officials in 2008.

    As Egypt’s intelligence chief, he is said to have spoken daily to the Israeli government on issues surrounding the Hamas-run Gaza Strip via a secret “hotline”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12394941

  100. aftab says:

    More strikes now taking place in Mahalla and Suez. About 10,000 workers at various factories in different cities over the past 24 hours have gone on strike. Most are demanding better wages and conditions but they are also adding momentum to pro-democracy protestors.

  101. aftab says:

    two confirmed dead and dozens injured in Al-Wadi al-Jadid – this area includes five widely scattered clusters of oases and the entire southwestern quadrant of the country.

  102. aftab says:

    Human Rights Watch says that 302 people have been killed since the start of Egypt’s pro-democracy uprising last month. Based on visits to a number of hospitals in Egypt, the organisation said that records show the death toll has reached 232 in Cairo, 52 in Alexandria and 18 in Suez.

  103. aftab says:

    Wael Ghonim, the activist who was recently released from custody in Egypt, says on Twitter that a policeman informed him that General Habib Ibrahim El Adly, the former Interior Minister of Egypt, ordered the police to fire live bullets at protesters.

    “An officer just called me to tell me: I escaped from the service after ElAdly asked us to fire live bullets randomly on protesters.”

  104. aftab says:

    Meanwhile Jamal Elshayyal reports that thousands have gathered in Alexandria (below), bringing the city to a standstill. He says a memo, said to be issued by the ministery of interior, is being circulated in the crowd. The memo encourages the police force to “hire thugs” to attack anti-government protesters. Elshayyal says he has not been able to confirm the authenticity of the memo, but that it’s causing a stir among protesters.

  105. aftab says:

    The AP news agency reports that protesters are responding angrily to Suleiman’s statement on Tuesday, in which the vice presidnet said that continued protests would not be tolerated and would trigger a “coup” :

    ‘He is threatening to impose martial law, which means everybody in the square will be smashed,’ said Abdul-Rahman Samir, a spokesman for a coalition of the five main youth groups behind protests in Cairo’s Tahrir Square. ‘But what would he do with the rest of the 70 million Egyptians who will follow us afterward.’
    Suleiman is creating ‘a disastrous scenario,’ Samir said. ‘We are striking and we will protest and we will not negotiate until Mubarak steps down. Whoever wants to threaten us, then let them do so.’

  106. aftab says:

    A doctor who treated some of those wounded in last night’s clashes in Wadi al-Jadid said he treated four people, all of whom had been shot in the chest. All four, he said, survived.

  107. Cairo: Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood said on Wednesday it remains open to dialogue with the Egyptian regime, but repeated their demand for President Hosni Mubarak to leave office immediately.

    “The president must leave his position. A new era should start,” senior Brotherhood member and spokesman Mohammad Mursi told a press conference.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/mubarak-holds-on-egypt-protesters-fear-revenge-1.759206

  108. aftab says:

    About 3,000 lawyers have marched from the lawyers syndicate in downtown Cairo to Abedeen Palace, a historic palace, and one of the official residences of the president. They are heading to Tahrir Square to join protestors there.

  109. aftab says:

    The Egyptian military has secretly detained hundreds and possibly thousands of suspected government opponents since mass protests, the Guardian newspaper reports.

    The military has claimed to be neutral, merely keeping anti-Mubarak protesters and loyalists apart. But human rights campaigners say this is clearly no longer the case, accusing the army of involvement in both disappearances and torture …

  110. aftab says:

    The newly appointed Culture Minister, Gaber Asfour, has quit. His family say it’s due to health reasons but Egypt’s main daily newspaper al-Ahram says Asfour, who’s also a writer, was criticised by his literary colleagues for taking the post.

    He was the only new face in the new cabinet

  111. aftab says:

    Robert Gibbs, White House spokesman, says: “The president is watching the same thing you are. I don’t know what the outcome will be.”

    Just to back up my last point, how can the US “not know” what’s going on.

  112. aftab says:

    More on that concern of the Muslim Brotherhood. ” It looks like a military coup,” said the Brotherhood’s Essam al-Erian. “I feel worry and anxiety. The problem is not with the president, it is with the regime.”

  113. aftab says:

    There has been a significant change in editorial tone of Egypt’s state TV in the past few hours – no longer hiding protests, but showing the masses gathered in Tahrir Square. Presenter and guest openly criticising former ministers – by name – accusing them of corruption, greed and misuse of power

  114. Anger in Egypt as Mubarak clings to power
    Mubarak wrong-foots global expectations by refusing to quit office, prompting furious protests

    By Ramadan Al Sherbini, Correspondent Published: 06:58 February 11, 2011 Reader comments (0)
    A protester is overcome by emotion at the continuing anti-government demonstration in Cairo, Egypt. Demonstartors were furious on Februray 11, 2011 as Mubarak refused to step down or leave the country and instead handed his powers to his vice president. Image Credit: AP Image 1 of 3 123 Cairo: The state news agency reports that Egyptian military leaders have held an “important” meeting and plan to issue a response, as protesters enraged by President Hosni Mubarak’s latest refusal to step down, mass for new demonstrations.

    Mena says the chief commander and defense minister, Field Marshal Hussain Tantawi, chaired a meeting Friday of the Armed Forces Supreme Council and the military will issue important statement to the people afterward.
    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/anger-in-egypt-as-mubarak-clings-to-power-1.760546

    آج نماز جمعہ کے بعد جب اہل ایمان اس فرعون کے خلاف نکلیں گے تو اس کا توڑ کرنے کے لئے اسرائیل اور اس کے حمایتیوں نے وہی پروپیگنڈا شروع کر دیا ہے کہ اخوان المسلمین اٹھا پسند ہیں اور اسرائیل کو خطرہ ہے. افسوس ناک کردار مصری آرمی اور اسلامی ملکوں کے کٹھ پتلی حکمرانوں کا ہے جنھوں نے اپنے لب سی لئے ہیں

  115. Bawa says:

    Egypt’s Mubarak resigns

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has resigned on the 18th day of anti-government protests, and handed over power to the military.

    The historic announcement was made live on state TV by Vice-President Omar Suleiman at about 6 p.m. local time Friday.

    “In these difficult circumstances that the country is passing through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to leave the position of the presidency,” Suleiman said in a five-minute address translated into English. “He has commissioned the armed forces council to direct the issues of the state.”

    The announcement elicited wild cheers from protesters — hundreds of thousands of whom had deluged squares in at least three major cities Friday, and marched on presidential palaces and the state TV building, key symbols of the authoritarian regime.

    Protesters jumped up and down in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, chanting, “Egypt is free!,” “God is great,” “The people have brought down the regime.”

    Ahead of the announcement Friday, Mubarak had flown to his palace in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh where he often lives and works during the winter. The resort is about 400 kilometres outside of Cairo.

    Mubarak’s statement came a day after he announced on state television that he would not step down but instead hand over some of his powers to Suleiman

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/02/11/egypt-mubarak-future.html

  116. aftab says:

    Hossam Badrawi, the recently appointed general secretary of the NDP, resigns saying Egypt needed new parties.

    It’s a resignation from the position and from the party. The formation of new parties in a new manner that reflects new thinking is better for society now at this stage.

  117. aftab says:

    Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu has tweeted his reaction to the news from Egypt: “Congratulations to the Egyptian people. And we hope that a system meeting the expectations of the Egyptian people will emerge.”

  118. aftab says:

    More words of caution from Fawaz Gerges of the LSE: “Yes, Mubarak is out but the political structure remains in place, the economic structure remains in place, the Mubarak regime remains deeply entrenched in place. You have Vice-President Omar Suleiman, the military commanders, the prime minister, the defence minister. Yes, it’s a giant step, it’s a major, major watershed for Egypt and Egyptians – Mubarak has been in power for 30 years – but the reality is the challenges have just begun.”

  119. aftab says:

    The Lebanese Shia Islamist movement, Hezbollah, has congratulated the Egyptian people on their “historic victory”. The AFP news agency reports that many people are honking their car horns and setting off fireworks in the capital, Beirut.

  120. aftab says:

    Wael Ghonim, the Google executive who has had a prominent role in the protests, tweets: “A call to all well-educated Egyptians around the world. Come back ASAP to build our nation.”

  121. Sardar Ameer Khan says:

    Sardar Ameer Khan said:

    Do you know who is heading this demonstration?
    Mohammad Mustafa ElBaradei
    Mohamed Mustafa ElBaradei (Arabic: محمد مصطفى البرادعي‎, transliteration: Muḥammad Muṣṭafa al-Barādaʿī, Egyptian Arabic: [mæˈħæmːæd mosˈtˤɑfɑ (ʔe)lbæˈɾædʕi]; born June 17, 1942) was the Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), an inter-governmental organisation under the auspices of the United Nations from December 1997 to November 2009. ElBaradei and the IAEA were jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2005.

    Could Egypt’s ElBaradei Be A Hero Of The Revolution?
    The answer is yes and no.
    1- Yes,because he is supported by his ex bosses
    2-No, because it is only going to be name change not the regime change.
    Awam chahay pakistan ki ho ya Egypt ki donon aqal say ari hain.
    May i laugh now?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    29 January 2011 at 3:16 am

    The above comments i posted on, support Egyptians people.

    No change in the system can be brought without American and Army support
    Army Generals have been rolling this country for past 55+ years how can
    they leave this time?
    Like i commented earlier it is only going to be face change ,not the regime change.( with a new General president in charge )
    It is not in the best interest of Israel.
    HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

  122. aftab says:

    There is even optimism in Israel, which has watched the removal of its main regional ally with a cautious eye. Writing for the country’s top-selling newspaper, Yediot Ahronot, Nechama Duek says the prospect of Arab democracy should be good for Israel. “After our neighbours get used to living under democracy, it would finally become possible to speak a common language with them. After all, democracy is the rule of the people, and when the people engage in conversation with their neighbors, they will decide in favour of the broad interest, that is, in favour of peace.”

  123. aftab says:

    Tahrir Square is remarkably clean today, BBC radio producer Helena Merriman informs us. Groups of volunteer cleaners are sweeping up the detritus of the past few days, tents are coming down and blankets are being piled up. Some, though, say they will stay until they are sure that all the changes they want are realised.

  124. aftab says:

    One of those anxious to see how things turn out is student Sara Hawas. She told the BBC that Egyptians would give the military the chance to fulfil their pledges. “But you know in the coming days we’ll see what transpires, how effective they are and how quickly they move to welcome opposition leaders from across the spectrum and anyone who really wants to be part of an interim government, until there are free and fair elections.”

  125. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Paul Danahar is observing the clean-up in Tahrir Square: “The infrastructure of the revolution is being quickly dismantled,” he says. “The angry young men who led this revolution seemed to have been replaced by their mums who are now cleaning up the mess.”

  126. aftab says:

    More from Paul Danahar: “This is the first revolution I’ve covered where the people cleaned up after themselves. Perhaps the mark of a people who spawned one of the worlds oldest and greatest civilisations.”

  127. aftab says:

    The BBC’s Paul Danahar sends more from the square: “The clean up operation in Tahrir Square is going on at a furious pace. There is now a mountain of neatly stacked garbage bags around the square. A dozen teenage girls are rebuilding the pavement broken up for ammunition during the pitched battles.”

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