August 16, 2012

Kamra Airbase was attacked earlier today at 2:00 AM and continued till 6:00 AM but the personnel of Pakistan Air Force and SSG Commandos successfully retaliated and killed at least eight militants while six security personnel were injured, one of whom is said to be in critical condition. Later around 7:00 AM twenty two people were killed when three passenger buses were targeted in Naran. DIG Gilgit claimed that the incident took place in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa not in Gilgit-Baltistan. Police have launched an investigation in the incident.

133 Comments

  1. myvoice says:

    Is this what 27 Ramazan is meant for? Even Kuffar before Islam would not kill in Ramazan, and 27 th Ramazan a muslim is submissive to Allah. The so called Ideal Muslims are out killing throughout the very very holy night and day.

  2. Whoever does these attack sure knows the timing of when to do such attacks. It’s like a pattern and our incompetent Government and Army/ISI are unable to crack the code of these patterns which sounds fishy to me. If the terrorists can walk freely, attack highly sensitive installations, kill innocent people by dragging them out of buses and do whatever they like then that means we have a failed system in the country, failed Army in the country and failed Constitution that cannot protect lives.

    It’s time for the countrymen to stop having a soft corner for “Ameer-ul-Mo’mneen” like mindset and stop defending their actions. It’s time for action, we must have a “capture or kill” policy going forward. We infact need a Gitmo in our country where sick minded people are locked up forever. If we don’t have evidence just lock them for good and if proved guilty, execute them in public so that other people could learn.

  3. hasankhan says:

    Pakistan should take drastic measures to eliminiate taliban dogs.We should invite america ,west and armies of friendly muslim countries to hunt down these dogs.Top sympethisers of taliban dogs should be arrested and media should be used effectively to unite the nation against the taliban.

  4. ukpaki1 says:

    salam
    how systematically attacks have been carried out in pakistan over the period of last few years. GHQ, mehran naval air base, now kamra.. what next.. will it be PM, president house, parliament… these all r the fruits of being front line ally of US in fake war against terror.
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis.

  5. ukpaki1 says:

    hasankhan wrote:
    We should invite america ,west and armies of friendly muslim countries to hunt down these dogs.
    ____________________________________________________________________
    really!!! after penetrating all over the country, does america still need a formal invitation to come to pakistan for rescuing nation…… how wonderful ur argument is.
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis

  6. pakamericanfriend says:

    The primary concern on the Pakistani “sponsored” media of these strikes on Pakistani sensitive military installations and daily human scarifies in Karachi and other parts of Pakistan is not that it is due to a failed government and the “White might is the right might“ in the form of Nato and US war machine, Pak media and the political human trash is talking of some imaginary terrorists who are after the “democracy from hell” in the wonderful state of “Islamic Republic of Pakistan”.

    Who are these people, who are so emboldened that they can do whatever, wherever and whenever?

    Who are the protectors of Pakistan? The current political trash?

    PMLN, British compromised due to money laundering and corruption wealth accumulated in the form of investments. Medical treatments and summer palaces, and 2nd residence for the children.

    PPPP, Same, compromised to the British, money laundering, corruption wealth accumulated in the form of investments. summer palaces, and 1st residence for the children.

    ANP, Same, compromised to the British, money laundering, corruption wealth accumulated in the form of investments. summer vacation homes of the leadership and their permanent residence family.

    PTI, British compromised leadership, wife (x?) and children British national, money dependency for infinitive charity trips, speaking arrangements in the British and American “think tanks” and legal obligations to visit the British children once every summer(as Imran says on TV, he watched the Olympics with his “especial, elitist & royal” children and fell bad about Pakistani lack of medals“ a stupid notion, 60% Pakistani live below poverty level, the do not care about Olympics)

    MQM, the leader is a British citizen, stooge and planted mole for the British secret service.

    And the Mullahs, who will follow the money and wage “Jihad for money” for the highest bidder.

    This is simply the pretext of showing Pakistan as a failed state and eventual breakup.

    The question to ask, why this military chief has gotten three years extension? He can not even defend the army from its own people or the foreign agents? “foreign agents” which every other Pakistani elite is.

    Pakistan is a complex situation in the hands of openly incompetent and compromised people.

  7. khyam says:

    پاکستان کی موجودہ صورتحال کی زمہ دار پاکستان کی فوج ھے جو طالبان کو بھی تحفظ دینا چاھتی ھے اور امریکی ڈالروں سے بھی ھاتھ نہیں دھونا چاھتی اور فوج کی ڈالروں اور رئیل سٹیٹ سے محبت کی قیمت پاکستان کے معصوم عوام دے رھے ھیں جن کو مذھب، نسل اور زبان کے نام پر فوج کے پالے ھوئے “اثاثے” دن رات مار رھے ھیں
    فوج اور پاکستان کی ریاست کے مفادات آپس میں کلیش کر رھے ھیں

  8. xxxpaki says:

    Some above comments are just excellent and spot on.
    I don’t want to elaborate on them just read them. I watched few Ramadan shows on Pakistani media, they are alarmingly spreading hate. On one of those shows I think its called “ronak e ramazan” someone said that they will pull eyes from its socket of anyone said anything bad about Islam.
    This is a sad sad state of mind. Mullahs are destroying the country.

    I don’t want to be the bad guy but then I feel if I don’t say these things then no one else will and the enemies of the country would love to watch it go down by its own, the ignorants.

  9. pakamericanfriend says:

    Pakistani army is the B team of the pentagon and the British army masters and are fully cooperating in the fake war of terror, by terror for more terror. Pakistani army which represents the so called “Islamic Republic” calls the militants, paid killers, killers for hire and possibly some “freedom fighters’’, “Islamic terrorists“(one man’s freedom fighter is the other man’s terrorist). Anyone who do not agree with the Pakistani hedonistic “Islamic model” is labeled “Islamic terrorist” with the help of the western funded and sponsored media. This whole war is for the best interest and wellbeing of the Pakistani elites, the political, military, civil society, legal monstrosity and the business emprises of Pakistan, who are making a “killing” on the human killings, mostly the poor, the desperate and the helpless.

  10. pakamericanfriend says:

    Pakistan is the only country in the world where militancy and organized killing are used as an acceptable political and economical tool to create fear and command respect and obedience from the peasants and create wealth for the hand few super elites.

  11. Shirazi says:

    @pakamericanfriend

    BTW your ID is complete deception, you don’t look like friend of either Americans or Pakistanis. You should make an ID JihadisFriend or Fundoo …

    :)

  12. pakamericanfriend says:

    @Shirazi

    My dear friend, any Muslim who gets involved in militancy and in the case of Pakistan, “terrorism””, target killings, paid mercenaries for hire, selling their young children for monitory gains and basically fighting for different reasons, like revenge of their families once they get killed in drone attacks or so called friendly fire by Pak army is called Jihadi?

    Than by this logic, MQM, PPPP and ANP killer commandoes who are in a process of ethnic cleansings could be the part of the “Islamic Jihad”, since they all claim to be Muslims?

  13. Qaiser Nadeem says:

    So now Khawajah Asif also agrees with Imran that this is not our war?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI3cdB719lA

    Those who called him Taliban Khan for his views are now agreeing with him. What would they be called now?

    Khawajah Taliban?
    Taliban Sharif?

    We all know that Nawaz Sharid wanted to be an Amir ul Momineen.

    Whatever the case maybe, it vindicates Imran Khan!

  14. pakamericanfriend says:

    I as a human being who believes in foredoom of choice and woman’s libration and empowerment will never agree with these kind of narrow minded dead enders. The problem comes when these people have been the only “Muslims” who are willing to stand against colonization and resource theft of the Western “white” powers.

    Now even if they are(the Afghan Taliban’s) are fighting to free their land from the “western” hegemony, people like myself can not stand by them, because the end result is a deadened for the people who these particular ideology groups want to free.
    Once free from the west, they will be occupied with this extremist ideologist and that is not the outcome people like myself want.

    So the question is for the people, what is the alternative? Do the Pak Afghan people have moderates who are not corrupt to be the alternative, that is the Greek tragedy us moderate Muslims are facing.

  15. pkpolitician says:

    جی ایچ کیو پر حملہ، مہران نیول بیس پر حملہ اور اس کے بعد کامرہ ائیر بیس پر حملہ۔ یہ تمام کامیاب حملے اس بات کو ظاہر کرتے ہیں کہ ہماری پاک آرمی، پاک نیوی، پاک فضائیہ کی قیادت انتہائی نااہل لوگوں کے ہاتھوں میں ہے۔ یہ کامیاب حملے اس بات کو بھی ظاہر کرتے ہیں کہ اس وقت ملٹری دو دھڑوں میں تقسیم ہوچکی ہے۔ پرویز مشرف کی غلط پالیسیوں کے بعد ملٹری کم از کم دو واضح گروہوں میں تقسیم ہے۔ ایک گروہ کو آپ روشن خیال کہہ سکتے ہیں جو کہ پرویز مشرف کی پالیسیوں کا حامی ہے یا کم و بیش اس کی پالیسی بھی وہی ہے جو مشرف کی تھی۔ ہماری موجودہ ملٹری کی قیادت کا تعلق اس گروہ سے ہے۔ ایک گروپ وہ ہے جو مشرف کی پالیسیوں کا سخت مخالف ہے جو اب آہستہ آہستہ سامنے آرہا ہے۔ اس گروپ کا خیال ہے کہ پاکستان کی فوج کو اس طرح کھل کر امریکہ کا ساتھہ نہیں دینا چاہیئے تھا۔ اس گروپ میں افغان طالبان کے حمایتی بھی شامل ہیں۔ ابھی پچھلے دنوں برگیڈیئر علی اور اس کے حامیوں کا کورٹ مارشل بھی اس بات کی طرف اشارہ کرتا ہے کہ آرمی کے اندر بغاوت کے آثار موجود ہیں۔

    اگر فوج کے اندر بڑے پیمانے پر اندر خانے بغاوت موجود نہیں ہے تو پھر آخر جی ایچ کیو، نیول بیس اور اب ایئر بیس پر حملے کیسے ہو رہے ہیں؟ اگر اس بات کو مان لیا جائے کہ یہ حملے دہشتگردوں نے کیئے ہیں تو کیا یہ فوجی رات کے وقت شرابیں پی کر ٹن پڑے ہوتے ہیں؟ کیا انہیں کوئی ہوش نہیں ہوتا؟ جی ایچ کیو پر حملہ ہوجائے، نیول بیس پر حملہ ہوجائے، ائی بیس پر حملہ ہوجائے، نیٹو فورسز اٹیک کردیں، اسامہ بن لادن پاکستان میں ایبٹ آباد میں رہ رہا ہو، امریکن کمانڈوز پاکستان میں آکر اسامہ بن لادن کو آکر ختم کردیں انہیں کچھہ پتا کیوں نہیں ہوتا کہ کیا ہورہا ہے؟ کیا یہ سورہے ہوتے ہیں؟ اگر کبھی بھارت نے حملہ کردیا تو اس وقت بھی یہ ٹن پڑے ہوں گے؟ اگر اسی طرح صورتحال رہی تو کبھی نہ کبھی دشمن کہوٹہ تک بھی پہنچ جائے گا اور ہمارے ایٹمی ہتھیاروں پر بھی اس کا قبضہ ہوجائے گا۔

    موجودہ نااہل قیادت جنرل کیانی اور موجودہ ایئر چیف کو استعفی دے دینا چاہیئے۔ اگر یہ نااہل لوگ استعفی نہیں دیتے تو انہیں برطرف کردینا چاہیئے اور اہل لوگوں کو قیادت سونپنی چاہیئے۔

  16. ukpaki1 says:

    salam
    in pakistan suicide bombing is directly proportional to drone attacks. if a house is hit by a drone and that house belongs to an innocent family then survivor of that attack who watches his house burning and his family dying, then he can easily become a suicide bomber, obviously those ppl who blew his house though drone is not in his access. so, he can end up blowing himself in front of local forces.

  17. ukpaki1 says:

    similarly ever since pakistan was made free zone for pigs like raymond davis, pakistan has been in serious trouble… they have deepened their roots and they have some real sensitive inside information… and what coward morons heejre r our heads whether it be malik, kiyani, zardari now another slave zaheer ul islam.
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis.

  18. pakamericanfriend says:

    He (GAK) is the legacy of NRO, imposed on the people of Pakistan by the warmongering neo-cons of Briton and the US. This robotic army chief with no back bone is a hand picked, neutered from any honor or self pride “puppet” of the masters. He is not backing the judiciary, thus making it impotent and useless and keep making monkey says, monkey do speeches of no consequences.

  19. pakamericanfriend says:

    Only people with humanity, moral courage and self worth give resignations, his kind keep getting extensions for making the situation bad to worse.

  20. hasankhan says:

    @ukpaki,stop justifying suicide attacks.america should not only keep using drone attacks untill a single terrorist is in pakistan soil.this is international problem,pakistan should seek help fr india,america and all islamic countries to combat this menace.

  21. hasankhan says:

    Taliban are attacking fort of Islam,Pakistan.Any one who supports taliban morally and politically is a enemy of Islam and Pakistan.Imran,Nawaz Shreef and many anchors r supporting taliban openly.They should be arrested and media should be controled.

  22. pakamericanfriend says:

    “Taliban are attacking fort of Islam,Pakistan“.

    Now this is delusion 101, Pakistan run by the current hedonistic elites is a fort of “Islam”? It more like a tomb of “Islam”, under the current circumstances.

    Taliban are mercenaries for hire and a great majority of them are hired killers, looter and thugs, they are only attacking their counterparts, the Pakistani mercenaries for hire, current military for sell to the highest bidder.

    It is all about the turf war, and who gets more money from the pay masters, which come in many forms, the British, the Americans, the Nato, the Arab billionaires, the Saudis, the gulf financiers, the RAW, the Iranians, the Israelis, the Russians, the China war machine , the central Asians…you name it and they are willing to pay, both mercenaries for hire to keep killing butchering and torturing each others people for the blood money and bounties.

  23. taukeer says:

    Did someone notice the sequence of events? Could this all be a coincidence?!

    American Election cycle
    Recommencement of NATO supplies
    General Kana’s hint at operation in North Waziratan
    Media talk shows about Haqani Network and Taliban
    Rehman Malik’s “warning” of impending attack!
    American general’s visits
    Kamra Attack
    Attempt at creation of a “National Consensus”
    NewYork Times article on Paki Nukes vulnerability

    Could this all be a coincidence??? Could the master planner be working with all sides???

    Habitual commentators please ponder on my questions before shooting your mouths! or fingers!!

  24. ukpaki1 says:

    salam
    @hasankhan… just visualize the life routine of the families living in waziristan.. is every single family/person terrorist over there… there must be hundreds of innocent families, children, women… how would they be living their lives over there.. under the threat of drone attack, they never know, what time an evil drone being operated thousands of miles away would come and take their lives in the name of collateral damage and their blood will remain unaccounted for……..ALLAH ki pannah…..
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis.

  25. hasankhan says:

    @ukpaki,Terrorists should be eliminated at any cost.The people of Fata and Nort Waziristan deserve freedom fr these beasts.Drones are the best technology to avoide collateral damage.

  26. pakamericanfriend says:

    @taukeer

    “Could this all be a coincidence??? Could the master planner be working with all sides???

    “Habitual commentators please ponder on my questions before shooting your mouths! or fingers!!”

    You have made it difficult to answer your question by adding the caviar of ridicule in the form of your sarcasm by calling people “Habitual commentators”.

    If we all can keep it simple and to the point, it will be easer to communicate, granted we respect each others opinion, but disagree with the stuff we do not stand for.

    I will like to stay on this site, unlike others who crossed the lines drown by the site moderators, even they had contributed to this site.

  27. pakamericanfriend says:

    @taukeer

    Unless you live under a rock and think all these habitual writers are mentally underdeveloped, we all know the reason for the NRO and the makeup of current Pakistani alliance of the third rate petty and grand thieves, criminal elements, traitors, foreign agents and hedonic personalities, the sold-out establishment, robotic pentagon remote control army chief and the multimillion dollar media, funded and guided by the American Neo-Cons and the British “masters’.

  28. pakamericanfriend says:

    I am utterly surprised that Pakistan has not been disintegrated under these crime syndicates running it to the ground and the current robotic army chief who has no consequence to the “masters”, after all, he was the go between in the nitrous NRO deal.

  29. pakamericanfriend says:

    Pakistan is just as much to blame for the occupation of Afghanistan, as the Nato and the Americans. It is all choreographed in American think tanks and you know the people who are running the strings of the Pakistani traitors, mercenaries for hire and the Western toddies.

  30. pakamericanfriend says:

    PS: Don’t forget about ABL, After incubation of ABL and hatching it right after the Obama’s popularity was in the downwards sloop and Afghan war was getting unpopular by the day, they pull the Houdini, a rabbit out of the hat.

  31. taukeer says:

    @pakamericanfriend

    My “habitual” was intended at commentators who just shoot their mouths / fingers……..

    I agree with your analysis and it was hidden in the questions posed in my earlier comment. Kinda proves that I am not living under a rock though I would have loved to given the situation!

  32. pakamericanfriend says:

    The great majority of my Pakistani brothers and sisters cant even read and write, we are the privileged few, who can regurgitate the masters words in “English” and express our disgust of the “master race’s” crimes against humanity.

  33. pakamericanfriend says:

    pkpolitician said:
    عجیب فلسفہ – سلیم صافی

    @pkpolitician

    I need your opinion on this. You posted this column verbatim. This particular breed of journalists are the outcome of the multi million dollar invested by the Western warmonger and war criminals to keep twisting the facts and justifying the moronic logic of this particular human slaughter.

    Both parties are not fighting to defend “Islam”(which does not need defending, Allah promised it to be protected till eternity), or spared and for the image of Islam, if anything, they are using the name of Islam for their turf war and blood money.

  34. pakamericanfriend says:

    Please don’t misjudge me as some religious fundamentalist, just because I use Allah references. I do that, because I am a proud Muslim, not practicing as much but by birth.

    All my audience need to know that I write to contribute my two cents worth and try to educate the Pakistani English speaking youth with best of my abilities.

    As long as we understand that this is a turf war for the untapped resources of these virgin lands, Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and not so virgin Lands, such as Iran( In Iran the exploration and distribution of Oil and gas has been in production for a long while).

    It is all about the rare earth elements, minerals, oil, gas, gold, platinum, nuclear related materials, other industrialized materials, drugs(opium based), precious stones, water resources and other commodities the whole developing and so called developed world craves, needs and demands.

    We the Pakistani and Afghan people are in the middle of a proxy war between the Arab royals, Iranian Mullahs for money, the Chinese and Indian desperate need and enormous demand for the commodities and than the local political maneuvering of the middle eastern countries, Israelis, Indians and Pakistanis.

    All the Pak and western media and the talking heads are making it some sort of religious war or Jihad, crusade or the path to the ultimate Armageddon. This is all about money and power and none of the participants are innocent victims, only the poor people who have no power or control of their own destiny.

  35. zalaan says:

    شیعوں کو مارنے کے بعد وہ لشکر جھنگوی زندہ باد کے نارے لگا رہے تھے اور یہی لشکر جھنگوی والے پنجاب میں کھلے عام پھر رہے ہیں اور نہ ان پر انتظامیہ ہاتھ ڈالتی ہے اور عدالتیں انہیں باعزت بری بھی کر دیتی ہیں
    پھر یہی پنجابی طالبان ، پاکستان دفاع کونسل کے سٹیج پر بھی نظر آتے ہیں

  36. Guilty says:

    zalaan said:
    شیعوں کو مارنے کے بعد وہ لشکر جھنگوی زندہ باد کے نارے لگا رہے تھے اور یہی لشکر جھنگوی والے پنجاب میں کھلے عام پھر رہے ہیں اور نہ ان پر انتظامیہ ہاتھ ڈالتی ہے اور عدالتیں انہیں باعزت بری بھی کر دیتی ہیں
    پھر یہی پنجابی طالبان ، پاکستان دفاع کونسل کے سٹیج پر بھی نظر آتے ہیں
    ……………………………………

    شیعوں کو قتل کرنے والے کے بارے میں خیال ھیں کہ قا تل سیکولر تھے

    اور وہ نہیں چاھتے تھے کہ شیعہ یا کوئی دوسرا فرقہ کسی قسم کی عبا دت کرے

    لہذا سیکولرز نے شیعوں کو عبادت سے روکنے کے لیئے قتل کا منصوبہ بنایا اور شیعوں کو قتل کرکے فرار ھوگئے

  37. zalaan says:

    Guilty

    لگتا ہے تم پاکستان میں نہیں رہتے ہو یا کم از کم کافی لمبے اسے سے باہر ہو

    کسی بھی دیوبند مدرسے میں جاؤ اور وہاں کے طلبہ کے تاثرات شیعوں کے بارے میں معلوم کرو سب کے سب انہیں کافر کہتے ہیں اور انہی میں سے آپ کو لشکر جنگوی اور سپاہ صحابہ کے کارکن مل جائے جو ایسی کاروائیوں میں ہوتے ہیں
    یہ کوئی ڈھکی چھپی بات نہیں ہے

    فوج اور اسٹبلشمنٹ ان مدارس کو سپورٹ کرتی ہے ، بلوچستان کے بیاباں میں بڑے بڑے مدارس بنے ہیں جہاں مقامی نہیں بلکہ پنجابی طالبان اور شمالی علاقوں میں طلبہ ہیں اور ان مدرسوں کے اندر سپاہ صحابہ اور لشکر جھنگوی کام کرتی ہے تاکہ ضرورت پڑنے پر ان گروہوں کو استمعال کیا جا سکے

    یہی سپاہ صحابہ تھی جو نوے کے عشرے میں شہباز شریف کی پنجاب حکومت میں انہوں نے پورے پنجاب میں خون خرابہ مچایا ہوا تھا ، ریاض بسرا اسی زمانے کا دشتگرد تھا

  38. pakamericanfriend says:

    @Guilty , a murderer is a murderer and crime against humanity are crimes, it should not matter the religion, race or creed. We should all reject these fundamentalists loons who are spilling the human blood in the name of any kind of difference. The question to ask is that who are these faceless people who are killing the Shia, Sunni, Christen, Ahmadis and Hindu Pakistani brothers and sister of us all?

    I will not like to take sides with any of these political, ethnic or religious monsters who kill in the name of “God”, political demigod or whatsoever their excuse is. They all should be hunted down as cannibalistic animals and brought to justice via “hate crime and terrorist special courts” with no mercy or right to appeal.

  39. pakamericanfriend says:

    “کسی بھی دیوبند مدرسے میں جاؤ اور وہاں کے طلبہ کے تاثرات شیعوں کے بارے میں معلوم کرو سب کے سب انہیں کافر کہتے ہیں اور انہی میں سے آپ کو لشکر جنگوی اور سپاہ صحابہ کے کارکن مل جائے جو ایسی کاروائیوں میں ہوتے ہیں
    یہ کوئی ڈھکی چھپی بات نہیں ہے

    @zalaan

    If that is the case than close these institutes, Shia, Sunni or whatever else of hate and contempt as soon as legally one can. Arrest all these hate mongers, murdering lunatics who are spreading this kind of extreme prejudice and turning humans into mindless, soulless animals.

  40. zalaan says:

    اگر مسلمان اور ہندو کی لڑائی ہو تو مسلمان مارا جائے تو میڈیا اور جماعتی کہتے ہیں کہ مسلمان کا قتل عام ہو رہا ہے
    اور اگر مسلمان کی کو قتل کرے یا سنی دیوبندی مولوی شیعوں کا قتل عام کریں تو کہا جاتا ہے کہ اس میں کوئی سازش ہوگی
    یہ ڈرامے بازی کب تک چلاؤ گے ؟

  41. Guilty says:

    zalaan said:
    اگر مسلمان اور ہندو کی لڑائی ہو تو مسلمان مارا جائے تو میڈیا اور جماعتی کہتے ہیں کہ مسلمان کا قتل عام ہو رہا ہے
    اور اگر مسلمان کی کو قتل کرے یا سنی دیوبندی مولوی شیعوں کا قتل عام کریں تو کہا جاتا ہے کہ اس میں کوئی سازش ہوگی
    یہ ڈرامے بازی کب تک چلاؤ گے
    …………………………………………………….

    چا ھے ھندو قتل ھو یا مسلمان قتل ھو

    ان کو قتل کرنے میں سیکولرز کا ھا تھ ھوتا ھے

    کیونکہ سیکولرز کسی بھی مذھب کو دیکھنا نہیں چاھتے

    سیکولرز ھندوؤں اور مسلمانوں کو قتل کرتے ھیں کیونکہ سیکولرز کسی کو عباد ت کرتے نہیں دیکھ سکتے

    سیکولرز چاھتے ھیں کہ دنیا کا ھر شخص شرابی کبابی ھوننگی فلمیں دیکھتا ھواور جیب میں کنڈوم لیئے گھومتا ھو

    جو لوگ سیکولرز کی طرح گندی زندگی نہیں گزارنا چاھتے سیکولرز ان کو قتل کروادیتے ھیں۔

    چاھے ھندو ھوں مسلمان ھوں سنی ھوں یا شیعہ ھو ں

  42. zalaan says:

    مذہب کے نام پر قتل پاگل پن ہے اور اس میں ایک فریق بننے کے بجاے اسے صرف مذہبی پاگلپن سمجھ کر دیکھنا چاہیے چاہے یہ کسی کی بھی طرف سے ہو
    مگر ہوتا یہ ہے کہ جب غیر مسلم مذہبی پاگل مذہب کے نام پر مسلمانوں کو مارے ہیں تو ہم اس پر مذہبی دکان چمکانہ شروع کر دیتے ہیں اور مذہبی منفی جذبات اور بڑھاتے ہیں

    اور جب یہ مذہبی جنونی مسلمان,دوسرے مسلمان کو یا دوسرے مذہب والوں کو مارتے ہیں تو ہم اسے ” سازش ” کا نام دیتے ہیں

  43. ukpaki1 says:

    السلام علیکم

    اس وقت دنیا میں سب سے زیادہ سستا خون مسلمان کا ہے چاہے وہ جس فرقے، علاقے، رنگ و نسل سے تعلق رکھتا ہو جو جب بہتا ہے تو اس کی دوسرا مسلمان بھائی پرواہ نہیں کرتا تو عالمی سطح پر کیا ہونا اس کا۔
    روہنگیا مسلمانوں کا حال ہی دیکھ لو، ہزاروں افراد کس طرح کاٹ دئیے گئے اور جب پڑوسی ملک کی حسینہ واجد نے اپنی سرحدیں بند بھی کردیں تاکہ مزید پناہ گزین نہ آسکیں تو اس کے بعد دیگر قریبی مسلمان ملکوں کو بھی ان کی کوئی پرواہ نہیں تھی۔
    اسی طرح کچھ سال پہلے جب اسرائیل غزہ پر حملے کرتا تھا تو حسنی مبارک مدد تو دور کی بات اپنے بارڈر بند کردیا کرتا تھا۔ اور وہاں خواتین بچے، بوڑھے کس طرح مرتے تھے۔
    امریکہ جب افغانستان میں حملے کرتا تھا نو گیارہ کے بعد تو آپ کو پتہ ہے اس نے وہاں ڈیزی کٹر بم بھی استعمال کیے ھیں آبادی پہ اور شاید آپ کو پتہ نہ ہو کہ وہ ڈیزی کٹر بم جس جگہ گرتا ہے اس کے تھوڑے فاصلے پہ اگر کوئی انسان ہو تو وہ اس کی جلد پھاڑ کے رکھ دیتا ہے۔ اسی طرح اور بہت ساری مثالیں میں دے سکتا ہوں۔ جو میرے ذہن میں تازہ ہیں۔ لیکن آپ مسلمانوں کی نفرت میں مبتلا ایک شخص ہو اور وہ اس لیے کیونکہ آپ چیزوں کو صرف ایک زوایہ سے دیکھتے ہو۔ یہ بات میں مانتا ہوں کہ پاکستان میں روایتی ملا اور جماعتیوں وغیرہ کی سوچ کچھ عجیب سے ہی ہے اور یہ علم کی کمی کی وجہ سے ہے کیونکہ وہاں اکثر نیم ملا بھی تبلیغ کررہے ہوتے ھیں۔
    خیر ہم سارے لوگ ایک سطحی سی بے حس سے زندگی گزار رہے ھیں۔ اسی لیے ہمیں اپنے مسلمان بھائیوں، بہنوں، بچوں بزرگوں کے ساتھ ہونے والی زیادتی کی کوئی پرواہ نہیں ہوتی۔

    جہاں تک آپ کی بات ہے تو آپ مسلمانوں اور اسلام کے حوالے سے طنز اور اپنی نفرت کا اظہار کرکے اپنے لیے تسکین تلاش کرتے ھو۔ اور آپ نے شاید ان تبلیغی جماعتوں کو قریب سے دیکھا ہے اور کسی خاص واقعے نے آپ کو اسلام سے اور مسلمانوں سے متنفر کردیا ہے۔ اور مسلمانوں اور پاکستان کی تذلیل سے آپ خوشی سے اچھلنے لگتے ھیں۔ یہ کام آپ پہلے مختلف شناختوں سے کرتے تھے خیر جو بھی ہے اللہ آپ کو سکون دے۔

  44. aliimran says:

    !یہ بے غیرت شخص پاکستان کے صدر کا باپ ہے
    ہم کتنے احمق ہیں کہ جانتے بوجھتے ہوۓ بھی ان کو ووٹ دے کر انہیں پاکستان کی تقدیر کا
    مالک بنا دیا ہے
    الله ہم پر رحم فرمائیں اور ہماری اور ہمارے ملک کی ان سے اور ان جیسوں سے نجات
    آمین
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Cn3qn90Mg&feature=player_embedded

  45. hasankhan says:

    Terrorism and sectarian violence are the real problems,but few begairuts are just targeting president and president,s family,these begairut even dont care for the dead.

  46. pakamericanfriend says:

    خالی دکان said:
    As if this baighairat dead person was caring about the long dead national hero

    The great tragedy is that this “father” of Shamelessness (any one who gave birth to Asif Ali Zardari must hve been hiding his face from the rest of the world, only if he had any shame) was living le a retired rock star or movie star lifestyle on stolen wealth from the same country created and freed by the man he was using the foul language about. This man was living in the French palace of the royals and several other palaces and houses around the world with the stolen money by his son and daughter-in-law.

  47. pakamericanfriend says:

    پاکستان کے صدر کا باپ

    The loot enjoyed by the dead man(morally dead man‘s father, as they say, father like son) , may God give him what he duly deserves in after life. God is the true judge.

    Zardari/BB’s PROPERTIES IN UK ARE:
    355 acre Rockwood Estate, Surrey (Now stands admitted)
    Flat 6, 11 Queensgate Terrace, London SW7
    26 Palace Mansions, Hammersmith Road, London W14
    27 Pont Street , London, SW1
    20 Wilton Crescent, London SW1
    23 Lord Chancellor Walk, Coombe Hill, Kingston, Surrey
    The Mansion, Warren Lane, West Hampstead, London
    A flat at Queensgate Terrace, London
    Houses at Hammersmith Road, Wilton Crescen t, Kingston and in Hampstead.

    PROPERTIES IN BELGIUM ARE:
    12-3 Boulevard De-Nieuport, 1000, Brussels, (Building containing 4 shops and 2 large apartments)
    Chausee De-Mons, 1670, Brussels

    PROPERTIES IN FRANCE ARE:
    La Manoir De La Reine Blanche and property in Cannes

    PROPERTIES IN USA – in the name of Asif Zardari and managed by Shimmy Qureshi are:
    Stud farm in Texas
    Wellington Club East, West Palm Beach
    12165 West Forest Hills , Florida
    Escue Farm 13,524 India Mound, West Palm Beach
    3,220 Santa Barbara Drive, Wellington Florida
    13,254 Polo Club Road, West Palm Beach Florida
    3,000 North Ocean Drive, Singer Islands, Florida
    525 South Flager Driver, West Palm Beach, Florida
    Holiday Inn Houston Owned by Asif Ali Zardari, Iqbal Memon and Sadar-ud-Din Hashwani

    http://zenubia.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/properties-of-asif-ali-zardari/

  48. xxxpaki says:

    Majority of Pakistanis are living in extreme poverty while few fortunate busy accumulating wealth.
    How any donor would feel motivated to help after looking at the above list.

  49. pakamericanfriend says:

    2xxxpaki

    I respectfully disagree with the “premise” of your comment and especially feel repulsed by the choice of words(few fortunate busy accumulating wealth). We the proud Pakistani’s do not want or need “donors”.

  50. pakamericanfriend says:

    This dead man was not fortunate for the fortunes he enjoyed in the last years of his criminally and morally insane and bankrupt life. It is him and people alike, like Nawaze Sharif family run Mafia and other habitual political and religious mobsters, who take part in the loot, plunder, theft, loan frauds, tax evasion, money laundering, selling their collective conscience to the foreign powerbrokers to steal the money, the bread, the medicine, the energy, the security from the mouths, hands and persons of the poor, the most venerable, the weak, the meek, the uneducated, the undereducated the wrongly educated, the grave worshipers, the people who still live in the dark ages, the people with empty bellies, with TB, with sever gastrointestinal disorders, people with the chronic ailments the most cornice is the poverty, hopelessness, depression, fear, shame, inferiority complex and you name the worldly pressures and these people live it, they commit family suicides, they are becoming mindless and soulless killers, thieves, prostitutes, pimps, out of control mobs and a unruly bunch due to this type of biblical loot of the scarce resources these people need and the limited capacity Pakistani elites are will to share.

  51. xxxpaki says:

    PAF
    I think you got me wrong. Fortunate was in the context with the inherited money and the will in one particular case. The legality of the other acquired money and land are still in question.

  52. @pakamericanfriend said:

    morally dead man‘s father, as they say, father like son

    —————————————–

    یعنی یہ شخص سو فیصد خاندانی چور ہے ،،، پاکستان بھی ایک عجیب ملک ہے تندور پر روٹی لگانے والا ٹوپ کر جاتا ہے اور سینما میں ٹکٹیں بیچنے والا ارب پتی اور پھر ملک کا صدر بن جاتا ہے

  53. pakamericanfriend says:

    یعنی یہ شخص سو فیصد خاندانی چور ہے ،،، پاکستان بھی ایک عجیب ملک ہے تندور پر روٹی لگانے والا ٹوپ کر جاتا

    ہے اور سینما میں ٹکٹیں بیچنے والا ارب پتی اور پھر ملک کا صدر بن جاتا ہے

    Dear concisely, un-concisely or purposely you are comparing apples with oranges, There is a young man who achieved his goal with hard work, psychical and mental, noting more and nothing less. Instead of pointing out to our youth that working for living is pretty standard in the Western countries. If you research on Nobel laureates, down the road they may have flipped burgers, mopped the floors, cleaned the windows, the oil, the toilets, through out the garbage and whatsoever was need, these kids did it.

  54. pakamericanfriend says:

    In Pakistani “slave” and “master” mentality, the elites must recognize this particular example, because due to easy money with corruption, tax evasion, frauds and whet ever means possible, they never had to do any work, but to have fun and study in private, privileged schools of the “British“ model. ?.

  55. pakamericanfriend says:

    The young man deserves the kudos from all of us and should be given scholarships for higher education, but not make him the example of our “super elites” giving him “charity” rewards for the political and social recognition of being “Robin Hoods”.

  56. pakamericanfriend says:

    @block

    Agreed “proper”, but needs to be explained. The concept of owning Pakistan is the absolutely accurate observation on your part.

    Pakistani cannibalistically hedonic elites have generated so much money and “money buys power“, they feel that they own Pakistan. In realty, the people and the God almighty owns Pakistan, they all are renting it from the Western backed and controlled establishment,wo have been leasing her (pakistan) integrity, sovereignty and boundaries for handouts.

  57. aliimran says:

    محسن پاکستان بابا جناح اور ان چور ڈاکوؤں کا کیا موازنہ ؟
    کہاں گنگو تیلی اور کہاں راجہ بوس ؟
    اور ان ڈاکوؤں کے چاہنے والوں کے میعارکا اندازہ کرنے کے لیے اتنا ہی کافی ہے کہ
    وہ ان جیسے ڈاکوؤں کو چاہتے ہیں

  58. ukpaki1 says:

    hasankhan said:
    Zerdari is chore it has to be proven but Nawaz Shreef is a product of a general its proven.
    _____________________________________________________________________
    u’ll have to admit open heartedly that presdient zardari is the product of NRO manufactured by the worst dictator of pakistan.
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis.

  59. hasankhan says:

    @ukpaki,PPP won elections and Zerdari bacame president after check mating Mushrraf.Tell me honestly where its written in NRO Zerdari will replace Mushrraf as president of Pakistan.U r just one manufactured zerdari hater.

  60. ukpaki1 says:

    hasankhan…my friend the main purpose of NRO was to keep traitor mush as president and bb was supposed to be PM but when bb arrived pak then her mind changed quite a lot. so plan was changed.. bb was murdered and then zardari was given the role which bb was supposed to do.. foreigners were the guarantors of that deal..everyone knows that….
    May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis

  61. pakamericanfriend says:

    pakamericanfriend said:
    یعنی یہ شخص سو فیصد خاندانی چور ہے ،،، پاکستان بھی ایک عجیب ملک ہے تندور پر روٹی لگانے والا ٹوپ کر جاتا
    ہے اور سینما میں ٹکٹیں بیچنے والا ارب پتی اور پھر ملک کا صدر بن جاتا ہے

    Sorry to word filtration, I had to breakdown my comment and delete stuff out. This will make more sense, what I want to say….

    Dear concisely, un-concisely or purposely you are comparing apples with oranges, There is a young man who achieved his goal with hard work, psychical and mental, noting more and nothing less. Pakistani elites are showing their ‘surprised reaction” Instead of pointing out to our youth that working for living is pretty standard in the Western countries, and if you research on the Western Nobel laureates, down the road they may have flipped burgers, mopped the floors, cleaned the windows, the cooking oil, the toilets, throughout the garbage and whatsoever was needed, these kids did it.

  62. pakamericanfriend says:

    Sorry “due” to word filtration, and my bad “English” I had to breakdown my comment and delete stuff out. This will make more sense, what I wanted to say….

  63. pakamericanfriend says:

    My analyses of the current stalemate of Pakistani political/ judicial /establishment and the ethnic and family run Mafias, foreign agents, western toddies, Mullahs for sale.

    The end game in Afghanistan will be the beginning of the end game of Pakistan as we know of it.

    The silence is deafening and indecisions, no decisions, weak and lame decisions, fake and setup and staged revolutionary **Imran Khan, the man with the believe that he and only he can solve the problems of Pakistan with all his character flows and hedonic past, questionable present and very scary future of a narcissistically unstable larger than life personality. This type of super elite is the hope for the majority Pakistani peasants?

  64. pakamericanfriend says:

    Imran Khan(PTI is just a group of groupies flowing one man, lager than all of them and in his fascist mind, probably than all the rest of the inferior Pakistanis, whom he did not even found worth of marrying or having even a child out of wedlock, even that he did with a white American woman).

  65. pakamericanfriend says:

    The judiciary is no more than opium of hope or a pressure releasing valve in a pressure cooker , establishment loosen it when they see the people of Pakistan are getting out of control, Imran Khan is the other valve they are working on.

    I see no hope with elections as long as we have this military establishment, a B team of the western masters and same crime families and ethnic gangs playing the fake election game.

  66. @pakamericanfriend said:

    یعنی یہ شخص سو فیصد خاندانی چور ہے ،،، پاکستان بھی ایک عجیب ملک ہے تندور پر روٹی لگانے والا ٹوپ کر جاتا
    ہے اور سینما میں ٹکٹیں بیچنے والا ارب پتی اور پھر ملک کا صدر بن جاتا ہے

    Sorry to word filtration, I had to breakdown my comment and delete stuff out. This will make more sense, what I want to say….

    Dear concisely, un-concisely or purposely you are comparing apples with oranges, There is a young man who achieved his goal with hard work, psychical and mental, noting more and nothing less. Pakistani elites are showing their ‘surprised reaction” Instead of pointing out to our youth that working for living is pretty standard in the Western countries, and if you research on the Western Nobel laureates, down the road they may have flipped burgers, mopped the floors, cleaned the windows, the cooking oil, the toilets, throughout the garbage and whatsoever was needed, these kids did it.
    ————————————————–

    ارے بھیا ،،، میں تو ایک تضاد کا ذکر کر رہا ہوں ،،، کہاں کہاں چلے گئے کہ واپس لانا مشکل ہے

  67. pakamericanfriend says:

    @خالی دکان

    ارے بھیا ،،، میں تو ایک تضاد کا ذکر کر رہا ہوں ،،، کہاں کہاں چلے گئے کہ واپس لانا مشکل ہے

    You wanted to show تضاد, I took it t wrong way. Now I know what you ment and it makes sense.

  68. pakamericanfriend says:

    22 more days? 21 more days, who the hell cares, here we go again, another dosage of “judicial opium of hope” administrated to the majority peasant sheep people of Pakistan by the elitist judiciary controlled and run by the establishment by fear mongering and blackmail.

    Fear, we can not fight the whole “western warmongering and war criminal gang of Nato and the US war machine. We must not disturb their crime syndicates running Pakistan to ground, via the power of NRO.

    Even the May 12th(may not be the right date) incident of burning the lawyers alive by MQM has not been decided, because, again fear of the wrath of the “whit masters“, who supports, harbors and houses the Karachi “ .007 Bond“, the “Altaf Bond” with license to kill from the “queen mother” of occupation, war crimes and death and destruction.

  69. pakamericanfriend says:

    In times of tyranny there have always been those who have stood up to injustice and immorality. These revolutionaries struggle to dispense justice and righteousness. In times of darkness these men rise, like a breath exhaled from the Earth and devour the unjust. To these people, I dedicate this post and recount some of the great names that have stood up for good, for honor and for justice.

    Ten + current (Pakistani) greatest revolutionaries of the world

    1. Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him)

    2. Vladmir Lenin

    3. George Washington

    4. Mao Zedong

    5. Martin Luther King Jr.

    6. Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara

    7. Nelson Mandela

    8. Ayatollah Khomeini

    9. Simon Bolivar

    10. Mustafa Kamal Attaturk

    Now the Pakistani’s

    1. Altaf Hussain (Urdu: الطاف حسین)
    2. Nawaz Sharif (Urdu: نواز شریف)
    3.Imran Khan Niazi HI, PP, ASA, RCPE (Urdu: عمران خان نیازی)
    4. Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry (Urdu: افتخار محمّد چودھری )

    This is the greek Greek Tragedy…

  70. pakamericanfriend says:

    22 more days? 21 more days, who the hell cares, here we go again, another dosage of “judicial opium of hope” administrated to the majority peasant sheep people of Pakistan by the elitist judiciary controlled and run by the establishment by fear mongering and blackmail.

  71. pakamericanfriend says:

    Fear, we can not fight the whole “western warmongering and war criminal gang of Nato and the US war machine. We must not disturb their crime syndicates running Pakistan to ground, via the power of NRO.

    Even the May 12th(may not be the right date) incident of burning the lawyers alive by MQM has not been decided, because, again fear of the wrath of the “whit masters“, who supports, harbors and houses the Karachi “ .007 Bond“, the “Altaf Bond” with license to kill from the “queen mother” of occupation, war crimes and death and destruction.

  72. pakamericanfriend says:

    I see no hope with elections as long as we have current English regurgitating corrupt to the core and compromised to the hilt “elites”(includes all facets of life, prime example is the corrupt, compromised, sluggish and useless impotent judiciary) and the current military establishment, a B team of the western masters and same crime families and ethnic gangs playing the fake election game.

  73. pakamericanfriend says:

    Now looking at this picture, there are handful crime families who feel entitled to “rule” the “sheep” people of Pakistan and do not mind sacrificing them on their alter of greed via ethnic cleansing, target practice killings, starvation, burning them alive, throwing them in front of the “Nato” and American war machine as human shields, cannon fodder or just by selling them to any bidder as a human “terrorist” pet for persecution.

  74. pakamericanfriend says:

    I am trying to comprehend the chiefjustice’s son’s case. It was an entrapment by a 10th grader, the real estate tycoon who knows how to buy and sell Pakistani elites. Now how can you entrap a Pakistani elite, English regurgitating with self delusion of superiority complex about the father who the Pakistani establishment and the political family Mafia’s and personality cultists and morally bankrupt legal community had been able to create.

    The creation of supper Pakistani “justice league” of super heroes with high IQs, compare to the majority uneducated, poorly educated and wrongly educated, grave worshiping “living in the stone age in their believes” peasants.

    Why make a special tribunal? How may other suspected frauds and criminally stupid people in Pakistan get this type of treatment? Why? Why? Why, one man is better than millions? Why the 10th grader with power of money and a so called Dr. who got entrapped by the 10th grader deserves this time and money of the dying peasants with starvation, unemployment, lake of electricity, fake and poisons medicine, terrorism and daily blood baths of lawlessness.

    I am baffled and disgusted at the same time.

  75. block says:

    Dawn Daily

    Pakistani Taliban release video of severed heads
    Military sources have so far not said whether they are the missing soldiers or confirmed that those shown in the video are Pakistani troops
    ———————————————————————

    Lanat on all talbans and their supporters which include people like Hamid Gul,Sheikh Rasheed etc.

    We need more drone attacks to kill these talban bastards

  76. pakamericanfriend says:

    The more I think about the Pakistani sheep people, the more I am trying to convince my self to think like a Pakistani elite, and the problem will be solved. They are “sheep’ which one has a right to scarifies on the alter of their spiritual being, these days it is ‘Goddess of easy money“, more money, and more money.

    I was shocked to find out that our future hope of revolution “aristocratic style” Imran khan’s top female leader, another ‘western educated” super elite has Pilipino servants. (I could have been told wrong), but just the fact that what kind of elitists people Imran has around him and his lifestyle and his legacy of “super British white children” and an American white trash out of wedlock daughter makes it extremely laughable and shameful for him to talk about bringing the revolution for the Pakistani “peasants and sheep”.

    It is like a jackal dresses himself into sheep’s clothing and wants to lead them to his den of jackal land. He is no different than other family and ethnic Mafia don’s with an exception, his Son are not a threat, because they are the “Super” white elites and can not or will not be able to handle the majority, sickle, smelly and inferior Pakistani peasants in any capacity, except to be the royal guests living in or visiting Imran’s “Super ranch home” and the prime minister house, the Palaces built upon the bones and corpses of the “sheep’ people.

    I am even will to see Nawaz family mafia, more palatable than “imran Khan” and his British legacy and fake revolutionary crowed. At least the Sharif family marries Pakistani women and have affairs with them. V.V.Vip of Pakistan is no more than an above average lower class human subject to Imran and his supper elite children, exception of the American white trash daughter.

  77. pakamericanfriend says:

    The more I think about the Pakistani sheep people, the more I am trying to convince my self to think like a Pakistani elite, and the problem will be solved. They are “sheep’ which one has a right to sacrifice on the alter of their spiritual being, these days it is ‘Goddess of easy money“, more money, and more money.

    I was shocked to find out that our future hope of revolution “aristocratic style” Imran khan’s top female leader, another ‘western educated” super elite has Pilipino servants. (I could have been told wrong), but just the fact that what kind of elitists people Imran has around him and his lifestyle and his legacy of “super British white children” and an American white out of wedlock daughter makes it extremely laughable and shameful for him to talk about bringing the revolution for the Pakistani “peasants and sheep”.

  78. pakamericanfriend says:

    It is like a jackal dresses himself into sheep’s clothing and wants to lead them to his den of jackal land. He is no different than other family and ethnic Mafia don’s with an exception, his Sons are not a threat, because they are the “Super” white elites and can not or will not be able to handle the majority, sickle, smelly and inferior Pakistani peasants in any capacity, except to be the royal guests living in or visiting Imran’s “Super ranch home” and the prime minister house, the Palaces built upon the bones and corpses of the “sheep’ people.

  79. pakamericanfriend says:

    I am even will to see Nawaz family mafia, more palatable than “imran Khan” and his British legacy and fake revolutionary crowed. At least the Sharif family marries Pakistani women and have affairs with them. V.V.Vip of Pakistan is no more than an above average lower class human subject to Imran and his supper elite children, exception of the American white daughter.

  80. pakamericanfriend says:

    My change of heart?

    After watching Imran Khan on TV today, I am getting to like him because as misguided elitist he is, he has some good basic ideas about at least giving this system some tune-up and change.

    He should stay away from his charity hospital, which is a glaring example of his failure to run it indigenously in almost two decades, how will he run a country of 200 million? But I will give him a chance nd let him try good management with mixer of charity and help.

    Maybe I am too euphoric and not recognizing that the people of Pakistan has been turned in to one of the largest charity cases in the world by its super rich ruling elites and Imran will try to fuse the charity with good governance.

  81. pakamericanfriend says:

    @jazoo

    I appreciate you joining in this conversation and my excessive writes are due to my ability to discuss issues and have a God given gift to express my opinion. I do not mind you calling me Looney(offensive term: an offensive term that deliberately insults somebody’s mental condition or intelligence (slang insult).

    It is up to my audience to decide that. I myself feel that there was total silence on the #1 political English + Urdu blog about Pakistani politics. It is sad that the gatekeepers of this site are running with fear. Pakistani media is a multimillion dollar propaganda bazaar, influenced and controlled by the ‘Western” interest groups.

    Don’t be afraid of propaganda, people who read the blogs are more refined and can distinct between propaganda and an opinion.

  82. pakamericanfriend says:

    @jazoo

    pakamericanfriend said:
    The silence is deafening
    27 August 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I am trying to brake the deafening silence.

    @All please join in or let me know if i am the cause of it, as my esteemed, “jazoo” feels.

    @Bawa is one of the best, he should come back, along with all others.

  83. newebaghi says:

    At the Current situation the west appointed task of the buffer country for Pakistan has been successfully accomplished by disintegrating the USSR. Since the great game is over so they want to dismantled those forces which they used against the Russia for only one reason that they might become a threat to the western interest.

    Till the present day what ever mess these western forces has created in the Our Pak Land is to serve there New Dirty Agenda.

    1. De Islamazation
    2. De Nuclarazation
    3. De Chainazation
    4. Give Pakistan Under the control of India or Migrated Indian since they serving western interest perfectly so far.

    May ALLAH Bless Pakistan with Honest Sincere Bereave Committed & Humble Leadership

  84. newebaghi says:

    Look at these Raciest Secular Terrorist Mafia MQM Godfather who never utter a single word in fever of

    1. Pakistan Nuclear Deterrence
    2. Kashmir cause
    3. Killing Muslim in all Part of the Word including Palestine Iraq Afghanistan
    4. Drone Attack
    5. NRO
    This mouth peace of the western interest has given a task to push Muslim Uma in the Guilt trap while they them self busy disinterring the Uma.

  85. newebaghi says:

    Most of the migrated British Indian claims that we make Pakistan but the historical facts are different.

    After second world war when the British Empire army was on the verge of bankruptcy and the British queen decided to leave British India they decided to divide the sub content on base of Muslim and Hindu majority for the security interest of the west to stop the expansion of the Soviet Union . So they wanted to created a buffer state in front of USSR.

    Muslim majority part become Pakistan by pole of the people, While Hindu majority areas become Hindustan, those area where Muslim was in minority and some of them was so use to the the privileges and fevers from the British ruler that they think they can not compete the majority Hindus in the level fields so they migrated to Pakistan in the hope of becoming the ruler of new born state to protect the interest of there british master to serve there own glory.

    Muslim migration take place form mainly Lacunae Bihar Deli but only 10% Muslim relocated mainly in 1951. The rest of Indian Muslim from Tamil Nado Andra or Malabar and other state did not bother for migrations Those who migrated some was genuine seeker of a new Islamic State but a lot more was in surch of free hand where they can implement there personal prejudice and interest by serving there British masters.

    There Expectations of ruling was so high that they consider the local people who provide them shelter was not better then animals and they think that it will take them a while to implement there Lacunae culture (look in Karachi Bihar colony Deli Colony UP bara Society UP bara Society) in whole new country and shortly after they will conquered back their left home land in India.

    A lot of these people change there surnames as they cross the border and come with fake claims, fake degrees fake and fake Sur Names.

    They were given lands against the fall claim and all over Pakistan but sold them and gather in Karachi. Most of the official jobs was give to them against there fake degrees.

    As they have the waste experience of Blavas in British India they believe in Blander Plunders and Surrenders. There migration to Pakistan has nothing to do with religion but every thing to do with greed, personal interest by selling the nation to there masters.

    A lot of them come to Pak land with curapte mind corrupt body and corrupt soul and started plundering Pakistan reticulating and exploiting the native son of the soil for there personal glory.
    There exploitation, reticulating and imposing there supremacy and personal interest reach to the extend when they implement Urdu as National Language because of there berocratecal supremacy they started to dream of controlling the whole nation by there wasteful means which become one of the biggest rezone in the fall of East Pakistan Bangladesh who were the original architects of two nation theory in Dhaka Housan Shaheed Saherwardi.

    Every thing was fine 1947 to 1968 while they war in the driving seats. Since the Capital move from Karachi to Islamabad the Ayob Khan becomes Kuta.

    Initially they used one of the Fishiest Islamic Patty Jamat e Islami to fulfil there wishes but after 20 years of struggle when they can not achieve there gaols the again 1980 they Float a falls Secular Racial Party with the Name MQM. The rest is history.

  86. pakamericanfriend says:

    As I have been writing about the current top political leaderships connection to the current British “empire”, such as Mr. N in the N league, billions of pounds real-estate, medical centers for the family royal health treatments , 2nd homes and money laundering companies, the Asif Ali Zardari and the Bhutto crime families 2nd home and children’s medical, education and sexual foredoom paradise, London, Altaf Hussein’s “residence evil” funded and protected by the “queen Mother” with the statues of Altaf Bond, with license to kill and a phone line for instructions to kill, and the new “revolutionary” Imran Khan, with the education, sexual tourism opportunities, play grounds, wife and children from England.

  87. pakamericanfriend says:

    @newebaghi

    Whoever you are, I am delighted to know that at least someone in Pakistan has been able to point out the British connection to our current problems.

    Now coming to you very enlightened write about the inseption of Pakistan, I must try to understand, what history books you have been taught? I should request the British government to correct their errors.

  88. newebaghi says:

    At present time the west agenda for the Pakistan

    1. De Nuclarazation
    2. De Islamaization
    3. Make Pakistan sub State of India.
    4. Fight with China as we fight Russia

    To implement above new western agenda they have six deferent faces, for which they are using all there loyalist and beneficiary form generations for completion.

    1. Bring all the puddle racial parties into the government in four province i.e. MQM & PPP in Sindh, Nura League in Punjab, ANP in KPK. Baloch leaders in Balochistan………… ……………………………………Completed.

    2. Making the people strive for food, clean water, transport, electricity, security and Justice till they become worst then animal…………………….. completed

    3. Making deadly weapons easily cheaply available all over the country ……………………………………………………………………….completed

    4. Bring the whole nation at the verge of moral collapse, illusions in the bases of the faith, founders and country, spread hopelessness and disinformation by the use of for sale Media………………………………………… In progress

    5. Trigger racial or ethnic’s clashes to push desperate and frustrated nation in to the civil war………… ……………………………………………In progress

    6. Announce Pakistan a fail state and take over Pakistan nuclear deterrence system, break they country in to the pieces…………………to be implemented

    7. Impose a new secular puddles government in five countries 1. Jinah Pure 2. Sindudesh 3.Baluchistan 4.Puktunistan and the rest of Punjab As Pakistan and be in the rest and peace for another 100 years………….to be implemented

  89. deevav says:

    True that this blog is dead. Now taken over by crazies like Cut & Pasta and newbaghi.

    @
    newbaghi

    Whatever you have said about above is a proof of your distorted mind. I can only say that it is a sickening thought process and need not be paid any attention to. however for the sake of thopse fools who may get influenced by your filthy ideas let me clarify some of the facts of partition.

    Yes the brithish raaj had no more economical strength left after second world war and they decided to liberate Pakistan and India. This was not done out of charity but due to political awakening of people ogf India and particulerly those of Muslims of India.

    People migrated from all parts of Indi to Pakistan. However not all of them migrated to Pakistan. They stayed back mostly in those areas where they were in Majority or in large numbers like Lakhnao, Delhi, Bihar, Bengal and some cities of UP and CP.

    Migration to Pakistan was a great risk as the economic condition of then Pakistan was pathetic and hopeless. Only those people migrated who had persued a dream and were ready to sacrify their lives and properties for the same. Countless of families who had a very good social status in India were comletely thrown back and found themselves living in shambles with no place in society. Many chamaars of india became respected people in Pkaistan too. But these things happened with corrupt minds irrespective of their liguistic differences. Punjabis expolited this situation too like bengalies and Sindhies.

    I would want to ask NEWBAGHI where was the fredom movement run in the then India? Which parts of India i mean? In Punjab? In Sind? In Baluchistan?

    Freedom movement was run in cities like Delhi, Lacknow, Kalkatta, Merath, Algarh and Bihar. So the peopel from the same parts of then India had an emotional attachment to this movement. Naturally they had a dream come true in the shape of Pakistan and they with a new zeal migrated to pakistan despite all odds. Strange land, strange people and starnge cultures. But they sacrificed all what they had for their dream.

    Now whatever you have written is an UGLY attempt to create doubts about the whole partition theory. The basis of foundation of creation of Pakistan is being attacked to make the new generation doubt about the whole process of political defeat if British and Hindus at the hands of Muslims.

    Bengalis were frustrated by the treatment the met at the hands of we Punjabis and none else. We looked down upon them and made a fun of their physical appearance. We made fun of their food (fish and rice) and their language.
    Urdu was made a national language by Quaid e azam and no one else. He was a waiswe man and realised the importance of bringing these 6 liguistic groups to one common language for the sake of building a nation. Fools destroyed his attempts and major part was played by Ayub and Bhutto. So see what happened? Pakistanis could not become one nation till now. Punjabis were never a part of freedom movement. They are ruling Pakistan now. So we should say they palyed dirty and now are ruling Pakistan? NO. This way of thinking is bad and will destroy us further.

    I strongly denounce your effort of putting the entire history of Pakistan in a WRONG cruel way and to spread teh seeds of doubt and uncertainity in the minds of Pakistanis.

    And THIS IS JEW AGENDA. SO ARE U A JEW?

  90. newebaghi says:

    @
    Deevav

    I really appreciated that you u try at u r level best to at least answer me with the title of Jew the reason I am saying this is becuse most of the so called Mohajor answer all the logic with built since they have founded the Gang of MQM. May be it is u r cyber war technique that since u can not fire a built fire with Jew.

    I do not know which part of India u margarita from but I have no intention to hurt any immigrant Muslim who come to Pakistan for the real cause of Islam and if u r feeling hurt I personal apologies for that.

    There is no doubt in the political struggle of the Muslim of British India which mainly include the Muslim majority part which is known as Pakistan today.
    The statistic well clearly show that most of the migration was don form Lakhnao, Delhi Bihar the Cities of UP and CP where Muslim was and still large in numbers but not majority.

    The Irony is those who are claiming that they make the Pakistan while the rest of majority population Muslim war sleeping they even did not a have a single seat in Muslim majority area which was the basic criteria for the partition.

    The freedom movement in the minorities Muslim area was logical more violent then the Muslim majority areas because Hindus treat them achot and they were economically and socially suppressed by the Hindus, so when Pakistan come into the being the rush for the relive but a lot more are still there. They got scarifies because of Pakistan they never sacrifice for Pakistan.

    Punjab was the wars effected in the petitions because till the last day of partition Mountbatten did not announce the Duran line of Punjab.

    U talk about frustration u think when the Indian Nawabs/chmars tell them Pendo or Dangar or tell the Sindis Dako or tell the Baloch Smugglers or tell the Pakton Jahil what is the feeling. Who is number one in reticulating the whole Nation till today live in media making fun of there accent and culture on a dally basis.

  91. judecrossley says:

    (Police have launched an investigation in the incident.) this is what happens every time when things go wrong….to me i think its all an inside job come one now we are not talking about a cafe getting targeted we talking about airbase! goverment area. police have the power to track down a small mobile fone by tapping the fone yet they cant get hold of security or any source of equipment to know who is coming in going on what they are carrying its really stupid this is an inside job.

  92. waterrdrinker says:

    They’re not trying hard enough to find who these people are, the military need to show these militants whose playground it is and if they cause any trouble their going to get a few broken bones.

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