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الطاف حسین کا پنجاب میں تقسیم اور خون خرابے کا منصوبہ

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  1. السلام و علیکم

    اگر آپ نے الطاف حسین کے حالیہ بیانوں پر غور کیا ہو تو آپ نے یہ دیکھا ہو گا کہہ اردو بولنے والوں کے نام پر نفرت اور قتل و غارت کے بعد موصوف کو پنجابی مہاجروں کے درد کے مروڑ اٹھنے شروع ہوۓ ہیں

    پنجاب میں کسی شخص نے اپنے آپ کو مہاجر نہیں سمجھا اور نا ہی کہلوایا ہے

    دو دن پہلے اس مکار قاتل نے کہا کہہ پانچ کروڑ مہاجر ہندوستان میں واپس جانا چاہیں تو ہندوستان کیسے سمبھالے گا

    لوگوں نے اسپر توجہ نہیں ڈی کہہ یہ پانچ کروڑ کا ہندسہ اور شمار کہاں سے آیا ہے ، جبکہ نام نہاد مہاجروں کی آبادی تو ڈیڑھ دو کروڑ سے زیادہ نہیں ہے

    لیکن آج موصوف نے بلی تھیلے سے باہر نکال ڈی ہے اور اب پنجاب میں مقامی اور مہاجر کی نفرت اور تقسیم کا اپنا گھناؤناکھیل کھیلنا چاہتا ہے

    ملاحظہ ہو آج کا بیان

    " لندن . . . . . متحدہ قومی موومنٹ کے قائد الطاف حسین نے گزشتہ روز ذمہ داران کے اجلاس سے اپنے خطاب کے بارے میں ایک وضاحتی بیان میں کہاہے کہ گزشتہ روزمیں نے اپنی تقریرمیں ان عناصر کومخاطب کیاتھاجو

    پاکستان بنانے کی جدوجہد میں لاکھوں جانوں کی قربانی دینے والے اردوبولنے والے مہاجروں اورپنجابی بولنے والے مہاجروں کے بارے میں کھلم کھلا لعن طعن کررہے ہیں۔

    میں نے جو کچھ کہاتھا مہاجروں کی قربانیوں کامذاق اڑانے والوں اورانہیں لعن طعن کرنیوالوں کے متعلق کہاتھالیکن ہوسکتاہے میں اپنے خیالات کی صحیح طورپرترجمانی نہیں کرسکایاپھربعض سندھی قوم پرست اوردانشورمیری بات کی روح اورگہرائی کونہ سمجھ سکے۔ بہرحال میں اس بحث کومزیدآگے بڑھانے کے بجائے پوری سندھی قوم خصوصاً ان تمام قوم پرستوں اور دانشوروں سے جن کی میری بات سے دل آزاری ہوئی ،میں سندھ دھرتی کاباشندہ ہونے کے ناطے ان سے صدق دل سے معذرت چاہتاہوں۔ الطاف حسین نے کہاکہ میرا جینا مرنا سندھ دھرتی کے ساتھ ہے ، سندھ میری دھرتی ماں ہے اورپاکستان میراوطن ہے ۔میں شاہ لطیف بھٹائی  کاماننے والاہوں اورامن واستحکام کی خاطر ہر قربانی دینے کیلئے تیارہوں۔ "

    http://www.jang.net/urdu/update_details.asp?nid=122900

    الطاف حسین اپنی تقسیم اور لاشوں کی گندی سیاست کو اپنے پاس رکھو ، پنجاب میں اس گھٹیا اور خونی سیاست کی کوئی گنجائش نہیں ہے اور ہم اسکو مکمل طور پر مسترد کرتے ہیں

    ف ج

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 16:23 #
  2. oneUp
    Member

    @Well said FJ bhai. People of Karachi want peace Pushtoon, Urdu Speaking, Punjabi and others have no problem with each other. Believe me if it weren't for politicians like Altaf there would be no ethnic based conflict. Altaf's politics thrives on hatred and divisions of Pakistanis. Whats happening in Karachi has nothing to do with any community. It's a turf war between political parties. For their electoral supremacy, they're killing ordinary Pakistanis.

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 16:32 #
  3. HAQKIAWAZ
    Member

    In Punjab every community is living in peace and tranquility. There is absolutely no division based on Punjabi or Punjabi mohajir like Sind. Altaf should keep his hatred message away Punjab as we don't want same kind of ethnic bloodshed in Punjab. In every street of Punjab’s big cities all communities are living together as good neighbors. We are proud to have a multicultural and unbiased society in Punjab.

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 18:03 #
  4. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    الطاف حسین نے معافی مانگ لی ہے اور اس معافی کو قبول کرنا چاہئیے

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 18:23 #
  5. محترم انور کمال صاحب

    یہاں پر بات الطاف حسین کی سندھیوں کے بارے میں بات جی نہیں ہو رہی

    یہاں پر بات یہ ہو رہی ہے کہہ الطاف پنجابی مہاجر کا شوشہ چھوڑ رہا ہے ، پنجاب میں مہاجر مقامی کا کوئی مسئلہ نہیں ہے اور سبھی اپنے آپ کو پنجابی سمجھتے ہیں اور جو لوگ ١٩٤٧ میں مشرقی پنجاب یا دوسرے علاقوں سے پنجاب میں آئے تھے وہ پنجاب میں ضم ہو چکے ہیں اور کوئی بھی اپنے آپ کو مہاجر نہیں کہلواتا

    الطاف حسین اپنی نفرت اور تقسیم کی سیاست پنجاب میں بھی شروع کرنا چاہتا ہے اور مقصد سوائے خون خرابے کے اور کچھ نہیں

    FJ

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 18:33 #
  6. expakistani
    Member

    Well we need to divide punjab in 3 small provinces... its not MQMs call but people from those areas are tired of Takt-e-Punjab

    Posted 9 months ago on 04 Aug 2011 20:26 #
  7. British govt is responsible for the killing in Karachi, British Don is controlling Karachi from his London's operating room.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 6:25 #
  8. Adonis
    Member

    I have observed that both Punjabi speaking and Urdu speaking muhajirs are well integrated in Punjab. The Urdu speaking muhajirs in Punjab number in millions and are a normal part of society. They do not call themselves Muhajir or Punjabi and no one asks them to be Punjabi. Being Pakistani is considered good enough.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 6:31 #
  9. Bawa
    Member

    خیر ایسی بات نہیں ہے. اندرون پنجاب میں لوکل اور مہاجر کی تقسیم ضرور ہے. پنجاب میں پنجابی تقسیم در تقسیم در تقسیم ہیں. یہ تقسیم نفرتوں والی نہیں ہے بلکہ اپنی شناخت برقرار رکھنے والی تقسیم ہے. پنجاب میں لوکل مہاجر کی تقسیم کے علاوہ برادری کی بنیاد پر تقسیم بہت گہری ہے. ا گر چہ یہ تقسیم وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ ختم ہوتی جا رہی ہے لیکن پھر بھی بہت ہی کم پنجابی مہاجر لوکل پنجابیوں میں اور لوکل پنجابی مہاجر پنجابیوں میں شادیاں کرتے ہیں اور اسی طرح بہت ہی کم پنجابی برادری سے باہر شادی کرتے ہیں. پنجاب میں اردو بولنے والے مہاجر بہت ہی کم تعداد میں موجود ہیں اور انہیں عام طور پر ہندوستانی کہا جاتا ہے. ضیاء الحق کے دور میں جب غیر سیاسی انتخابات کی رسم شروع ہوئی تو اس نے لوکل مہاجر اور برادری ازم کو فروغ دیا لیکن جیسے ہی سیاسی سرگرمیوں کا آغاز ہوا یہ تقسیم پس منظر میں چلی گئی. سیاسی پارٹیوں کی سرگرمیوں کے باوجود پارٹیاں الیکشن میں ٹکٹ دیتے وقت برادری اور لوکل مہاجر پس منظر کو ضرور مد نظر رکھتے ہیں

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 7:30 #
  10. shriq
    Member

    If somebody is called muhajir it is for identification not for derogatory purposes.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 11:27 #
  11. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    I think MR. FJ got the response from the people who are living in Punjab.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 14:29 #
  12. There is no such issue in Punjab. Once muhajirs to Pakistan, have been absorbed and well integerated into our societies, over time gradually speically in Punjab.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 15:20 #
  13. banjarbayabaan
    Members

    Everyone living in Pakistan is a Pakistani. Altaf Hussain has always tried his best to divide the people in Karachi on the name Muhajirs and Sindhis etc.

    If we take Altaf Hussain's Muhajir definition then Altaf Hussain and his gangsters have killed more Muhajirs than any other party in Pakistan.

    He has killed MQM-H leadership and their families without any accountability.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 15:24 #
  14. coolbema
    Member

    As far i know there were many muhajir in punjab but they all call themselves "Pakistani" and then "Punjabi". I give u a small example of mine. My uncle (phoppa) belongs to India and they settled in Punjab at the time of partition but now they dont recognize themselves as "Muhajir" or urdu speaking infact nobody even feel they are migrated from India.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 22:55 #
  15. spruce
    Member

    I appeal all of Pakistanis that let us start a movement to enlighten Altaf followers that Pakistan is land of love, peace, prosperity and there is no space for division and hatred among all the communities in Pakistan, so that they should keep remoteness from enemy of Pakistan who are dictating Altaf to create troubles in Pakistan to ease their job to destabilize the Pakistan.

    Let us unite and defeat such criminal minded people who have no heart for any ethnic including Sindhi, Urdu, Punjabi, pashtu, blaouchi except dividing them.

    What Zuliqar Mirza stated I clarify here that he means those who migrated from India were deprived, and comparing their situation with present they are owner of their land and business what not Pakistan gave them and still they are talking against Pakistan and helping enemy to destabilize the country.

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 23:19 #
  16. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    He works for Zulfiqar 'Dakait' Mirza as personal assistant! He is more close to him than Fahmida Mirza so anyone can understand before Zulfo utters word, he can table the press release.

    Zulfo's message was filled with love and peace as how he has described people migrated here, what a crockpot. Not buying it, it is just being sugar coated here to fool masses. Well we are too intelligent to get into that trap.

    Aside from it, if this is how Zulfo asserts his compassion, I wonder how would he talk to his wife: idhar aa o haramkhor:)

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 23:23 #
  17. expakistani
    Member

    @Irshad
    Do you think Altaf Hussain is behind FATA operation
    as well as attacked on GHQ, PNS MEHRAN and karo kari cases in sindh ?

    look like by using Altaf Hussain name you are working on some some hidden agenda.... may be you dont like people who are not ready to vote for Wader and Jagirdar parties such as PPP and PML?

    Tell me achievement of your Zuliqar Mirzas, Zardaris and Amin fahimes?
    what they have achieved for pakistan??

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 23:46 #
  18. spruce
    Member

    @RKQ

    u need to learn politics such theories were failed, dead during G.M syed by Zulifqar ali bhutto who gave the voice to all poor people of Pakistan, while same task of G.M syed carried out by Altaf Hussein and I assure you his formula will not work because I trust on devoted people of Pakistan they will once again reject ideas of Altaf to divide the land in pieces.

    If you have time can u please explain me the manifesto of Altaf?

    Posted 9 months ago on 05 Aug 2011 23:51 #
  19. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    Don't fool us, PPP is a regional party itself; the last election Zardari cashed his wife's death, what a sellout (The Bas#$$$RD sold his wife that shows how much women have value where he belongs to). They use Sindh card all the time by blackmailing establishment if they were not given their 'undue' share, Pakistanis need to be ready for separation of Sindh. Don't we remember 'Pakistan khupay' slogan, it was not a slogan but a threat to the existence of Pakistan that if you don't give us what we want, we will show you. In retrospect, PPP is the terrorist ring that head had to be sledged otherwise I don't foresee any Pakistan in next five years (I am quite generous here).

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:07 #
  20. saladin89
    Member

    @irshad
    @RQ

    PPP manifesto is corruption
    MQM is target killings

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:12 #
  21. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    S89
    MQM is in politics of defending itself and the people it represents. If you put target killing solely MQMs crime that is not true as there are major stakeholders including PPP, ANP, ST, Drug Mafia, Taliban, Aman Committee, Afghan Baghoray, Sindh Rangers (Yes Sindh Rangers), ISI, MI and vast number of national and international organizations involved and lets not forget the great Don Dowood Ibrahim (we don't know if he works for ISI or ISI works for him but one hand is definitely feeding the other) are all involved. If MQM defends it is rightfully so as it show state has failed to secure its citizen or being part of it. Police and rangers are there to protect their own kind not all residents.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:22 #
  22. mangoman
    Blocked

    @ saladin89

    PMLN manifesto is Dramay Bazi
    PMLQ is Lootay Bazi

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:22 #
  23. mangoman
    Blocked

    @ Rizwan Qaimkhani,

    Your posts make sense and I tend to agree with most of what you said.

    What you think, your suggestions that how peace can return to Karachi. It's very painful to see all that is happening in Karachi. I mainly hold PPP and Zardari tola responsible for stirring up the tension between ANP and MQM, but both ANP and MQM aren't exactly innocent either.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:38 #
  24. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    @MANGOMAN
    There are repurcussions to all whom are involved in the bloodlust whether it is MQM, PPP or ANP. I just clarified MQM's role. To bring peace to the city, it is not in the hand of one party as I see here everyone blame MQM generously without even understanding the sensitivity of the situation. It all definitely rest with Zardari as he is trying to gain the control and becoming the richest person in Pakistan where a common man cannot afford one-time meal. The obvious obstacle in his way is MQM. By hooks and crooks, he is trying to acheive it, first he used aman committee that did not have sophistaction to control MQM, then he employed ANP to do the job and they also failed to contain MQM. Now he brought MQM (H). The solution is to get rid of Zardari and rest of the top PPP leadership.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 0:52 #
  25. mangoman
    Blocked

    @ Rizwan Qaimkhani,

    O' yes, Zardari time is very near, he is probably the most hated person in Pakistan now. Blood of the innocent people recently killed in Karachi will not go wasted. Not to forget, Zardari also has the blood on his hands of his wife BB, and his brother-in-law Murtaza Bhutto.

    And let me tell you, not everyone is blaming MQM. I truly believe this time the main culprit is Zardari and his criminal gang, and MQM is being played down by them.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 1:11 #
  26. spruce
    Member

    @rkq

    ((((((((There are repurcussions to all whom are involved in the bloodlust whether it is MQM, PPP or ANP>>>

    all the above liability goes to MQM who have invented the gizmo of eliminating opponents by target killings and now they are reaping the same, they expected that they have foreign agencies training and no one will reproduce their tactics but thanks zardari he show them the real face that you people can not survive if you will not stop target killingsand blackmailing.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 2:09 #
  27. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    Well first repond to corruption and conspiracy charges about ppp then we will talk about mqm, ok baby.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 2:23 #
  28. spruce
    Member

    @RKQ
    You people still thinks that you living in 1980’s but convince your leader that now people dare to respond criminal activities. If MQM will kill 2 will receive the same people knows the hideouts of Mqm criminals.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 2:31 #
  29. spruce
    Member

    @Admin
    @S.E Mirza

    Such comments by RIZWAN QAIM KHANI are offensive for president of Pakistan. He should talk against him and point out his mistakes as we point his leaders mistakes which is democratic way of talking against each other. What an illiterate person he is!! Using words “”” zardari sold his wife and he is bastered “”is not a language used by civilized society.

    @RKQ said::::
    Don't fool us, PPP is a regional party itself; the last election Zardari cashed his wife's death, what a sellout (The Bas#$$$RD sold his wife that shows how much women have value where he belongs to).

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 3:57 #
  30. oneUp
    Member

    Britain's Got Talent ...

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 4:01 #
  31. saladin89
    Member

    @irshad

    I am no fan of altaf hussain, however if a gun was put on my head and I had to choose between zardari and Altaf, i would choose altaf hussain.

    Zardari is the worst leader that Pakistan has had, and believe me we have had some bad leaders.

    Could u please let me know what PPP has achieved in the last 3.5 years in Power?

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 4:06 #
  32. expakistani
    Member

    @Irshad
    how come when PPP gets in power they dont give a dam about Judiciary...but when out of power they ask for justice.

    I totally agree whit Qyamkhani

    Don't fool us, PPP is a regional party itself; the last election Zardari cashed his wife's death.... who would electec Zardari in next election ??? people of sindh know that Zardari is no ZAB

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 5:08 #
  33. @ expakistani, RQK and other MQM supporter

    Just a simple question to jogg your memories

    If Zardari is all what you have described above then

    WHY ON EARTH ALTAF HUSSAIN PROPOSED HIS NAME FOR THE PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN, NOT ONLY AH PROPOSED ZARDARI'S NAME BUT HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO PROPOSE IT AND FULLY SUPPORTED IT.

    Now tell me who should we blamed and held responsible for the problems in Pakistan due to presidency of AZ, Altaf Hussain or Asif Zardari

    For heaven's sake, take the blind fold of criminal AH from you eyes

    If anything cn be taken from the actions of AH, is, that he is very bad judge of character and must not be trusted when comes to interests of PAKISTAN.

    FJ

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 6:42 #
  34. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    @Mr. FJ
    I wish we were blindfolded but as a Karachiite reality is different animal for us than for the rest of the Pakistan.

    The decision of Zardari becoming a president cannot base on one man's approval, trust me. Where the whole country including NS giving him the approval, where all the national and international ducks are aligned, where establishment has no other way out as it was dealt with heavy hand and where Musharraf is unable to do anything because Zardari has showed up with the 'heavenly sacrifice' of his wife, would you consider that Altaf's approval had such onus, I doubt it. Sindh would have been coloured red if Altaf came on the wrong side of the PPP, you just have no idea . If it is the case, that makes Altaf the most powerful person in Pakistan. If he is the most powerful, why he can't change the current situation in Karachi?

    I have stressed earlier, MQM's decision to part of any coalition is not solely its own choice. We are being pressurized by establishment, ISI and these predominant 'parties'.

    To your question about who is to blame, it is definitely Zardari, that conniving, cunning SOB has ruined the country for us all of whatever was left there from the previous 'democratic' governments. I have serious doubts that he may have sold the country already.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 13:48 #
  35. spruce
    Member

    @RKQ

    ((((((I have stressed earlier, MQM's decision to part of any coalition is not solely its own choice. We are being pressurized by establishment, ISI and these predominant 'parties'.))))))

    nice joke this means you people are killing inocense people also done this job by pressure of establishment to kill innocense people other wise...................

    how funny you people are?

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 22:31 #
  36. spruce
    Member

    @saladin89
    @expakistani

    thanks for your choice....let allow criminal altaf do more killing and send him some gift and congretulations for his nice job.

    Posted 9 months ago on 06 Aug 2011 22:38 #
  37. zingaro
    Member

    الطاف بھائی جوشِ جذبات میں بہت سی باتیں فراموش کر گئے۔ سب سے پہلی بات پنجاب میں عوام کے سوچنے کا انداز ہے۔ بھائی شائد سمجھے ہیں کہ پنجاب میں بھی کِسی کو پستول دِکھاو تورُعب پڑ جاتا ہے۔ جبکہ صورت حال یہ ہے کہ پنجاب میں کِسی کو ایک دفعہ پستول دِکھاو تو وُہ تہیہ کر لیتا ہے بُرے کو اُس کے گھر تک چھوڑ کے آنا ہے۔

    سمجھ تو گئے ہونگے

    Posted 9 months ago on 07 Aug 2011 19:32 #

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