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  1. netengr
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/urdu/2009/08/post_482.html

    مجھے اختر کالونی کراچی کا وہ ٹین ایج لڑکا یاد ہے جس کے والدین اسے گھر سے بن سنور کر اچھے کپڑے پہن کر باہر نکلنے سے منع کرتے تھے کہ کہیں پڑوسی مارے حسد کے اس پر 'توہین رسالت' کی آڑ لے کر حملہ نہ کرديں۔ یہ وہ دن تھے جب اختر کالونی جیسی بستی میں بھی سپاہ صحابہ والے آن پہنچے تھے۔

    میں ان دنوں وائی ایم سی اے، کراچی میں رہتا تھا جہاں کے سکول کی بچیوں کو قریب کے آرٹلری تھانہ میدان کے لڑکے اور برنس روڈ کے پہلوان روز آکر چھیڑا کرتے تھے۔ ایک دن کسی ایسے اوباش نے وائی ایم سی اے سکول سے چھٹی کے وقت نکلتی لڑکی کے گال پر تھپڑ مار دیا تھا۔ جب کسی راہ گیر نے نوجوان کے اس اقدم پر مداخلت کرنا چاہی تو اسے کہا گیا 'تمہارا کیا! لڑکی تو عیسائی ہے۔' لڑکی کی مدد کو آنے والے عیسائی نوجوانوں کو 'توہین رسالت' کی دھمکی دے کر خاموش کردیا گیا۔

    کراچی وائی ایم سی اے ایک عجیب نگر تھا۔ اب سنا ہے وائی ایم سی اے کے سو سال کی لیز ختم ہونے پر اس پر لینڈ مافیا اور ایک 'نامعلوم' گروپ نے قبضہ کرلیا ہے۔

    مجھے اس وقت حیرت ہوئی جب مجھے ایک عیسائی ٹیکسی ڈرائیور سلیم مسیح نے بتایا تھا کہ رشوت نہ دینے پر ٹریفک اے ایس آئی اس کے چالان پر لکھنے لگا تھا 'ملزم ڈرائيور نے سلمان رشدی کے کتاب کی تعریف کی۔'

    سلیم مسیح ڈرائیور نے مجھے بتایا تھا کہ وہ تو بھلا ہو ٹریفک پولیس افسر کے دوسرے ساتھیوں کا جنہوں نے اسے 'توہین رسالت' کے قانون کے غلط استعمال سے روک دیا تھا۔

    صدر میں جہانگیر پارک کے سامنے تاریخی سینٹ اینڈریو چرچ کی بیرونی دیوار کو بھائی لوگوں نے آتے جاتے ایک اوپن ایئر پیشاب گھر میں بدل دیا تھا۔ جب چرچ کے پادری نے ایسا کرنے والوں سے احتجاج کیا تو اسے کہا گیا 'یہ مسجد نہیں چرچ ہے۔'

    ان دنوں بینظیر بھٹو کی حکومت تھی اور وائی ایم سی اے کے مسیحی چوکیدار نے مجھ سے کہا 'حسن بھائی، حکومت ان پر کیوں توہین رسالت نہیں لگاتی جو کہتے ہیں بھٹو یسوع کی طرح صلیب پر چڑھ گیا تھا'۔ بشیر بھائی چوکیدار عجیب آدمی تھا۔ ایک رات اس نے مجھے اپنی جیب سے کسی مدرسے کی ایک سند نکال کر دکھائی کہ جو اس کے عیسائی مذہب تبدیل کر کے مسلمان ہونے کی تھی۔ پھر وہ کہنے لگا 'کیا کریں، کل اگر کوئی ایسی ویسی بات ہو جائے تو بچا تو جائے'۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 7:00 #
  2. Justapakistani
    Member

    yar netengr do u believe in this BBC crap? حسن مجتییٰ a well know biased writer....yar kuch tu aqal saay kaam loo.....

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 7:31 #
  3. talalkhan
    Member

    I think netenger has a point.
    justapakistani
    In which world you are living?these things are happening in Pakistan.Dont try to be a pigion which closes his eyes from a cat.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 7:47 #
  4. netengr
    blocked

    hasan mujtuba some time seems stupid ,but what he is written is the reality and truth .

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 7:54 #
  5. Justapakistani
    Member

    whatz the point? beside copy/paste? i from Karachi and know very well whatz happening i have many of Christians friends , i completed my schooling from Missionary school and they never reported any such things. Based on 1 - 2 cases u can't generalize. These sort things happens all part of world....so how many time this Hassan Mujtaba wrote on these? how may times he wrote for the Muslim stubbed by German fanatic in the court?
    These crap bhaagoras don't leave a chance to bash Islam/Pakistan...

    Its better u open ur eyes instead of dancing on the music of these craps.........

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:05 #
  6. DeadlyHonest
    member

    Majority of Pakistanis crying and having suicide attempts with whole of their families..How can one expect any minority rights to be protected,if not protected..

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:17 #
  7. IJay
    member

    I feel sorry to see so many anti pakistan agent exploiting this incidence to achieve their goals like declaring blesphemy law illegal and revoking of minority status of non muslim!

    i think they want pakistan to be as first muslim country to declare itself as a secular state where non muslim enjoy same
    right as ts muslim citizen and Lost people like netengr are dancing on thier tones by pasting such articles here on pkpolitics1 they are afraid of pakistan they want to change
    the vision behinjd creaton of pakistan so their and our prophecies became false! BUT THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED ALLAH HAS BETTER PLAN FOR THEM! THEY WILL BOUND TO FAIL!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:24 #
  8. IJay
    member

    christian killed 1354000 iraqis muslim in iraq
    they killed thousands of muslims in afghanistan
    hindus killed more 1M muslim in kashmir india
    why you crazy people are crying for 7 christian death carried
    out by idiot and lost muslims! its a crime of a group of people kill them hand them burn them but don't potray it as
    christian genocide! in pakstan all churches are still intact
    people still wearing cross attending sunday mass and million of christian still alive in pakistan if its a
    christian muslim riots then death toll of christian would in hundreds if not in thousands! if your incapable of commenting on such issues then its better to keep quite than harm pakistan with idiotic remarks!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:31 #
  9. IJay
    member

    I dont know why on earth moderators are still allowing these
    stupid thread all such threads should be deleted as soon as they appeared on main.!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:33 #
  10. talalkhan
    Member

    Pakistanis in general have no problem with minorities.But certain extremists bring a bad name to Pakistan.So dont shut your eyes these things are happening.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 8:53 #
  11. netengr
    blocked

    We should see our home first .

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 10:02 #
  12. IJay
    member

    As a pakistai and as muslim from pakistan i will not apologize what happened in gojra! i will regret the killing
    but its was no muslim-christain riots! its was anc of individual group and Muslim nation of pakistan can not be held liable for the crimes they have never committed in their 62 years history.you can't judge the stature of any nation with few isolated incident!

    Take all necessary steps to deal with thee killers and provide security to minorities of pakistan but no way i will give full right to minorities of pakistan and will not allow any body to scrap blasphemy law of pakistan1 unless same thing will happen all around the world! every muslim around the world will treated as first grade citizen of that country!

    No bishop ,No pastor ,no pandit no guru has raised its voice for independence of pakistan how can they demand
    equal right! for non muslims take a good history lesson of pakistan before making such demands!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:02 #
  13. IJay
    member

    We should see our home first .

    our home is fine! no to worry but i don't know about your own state of mind! plz give some time before posting any thing here!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:05 #
  14. yahya
    Member

  15. IJay
    member

    Organized well planned and financed campaign against
    pakistan! these sobs media must have code of conduct! to follow we cant give them free haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

    did the raise same voice when 34 ppl were masacred in karachi! in one day! son of dogs and bitches! dawn !

    Just 7 people were killed! not a single church was targeted give us a break or we break this free media into hundred parts bloody agents!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:47 #
  16. yahya
    Member

    "not a single church was targeted"

    two churches were burnt in recent attacks..

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:50 #
  17. shikra
    Blocked

    The Law of Blasphemy was introduced in Pakistan by Amreer-al Moomneen Hazrat Zia-ul-Haq (Razi Allah) to consolidate his popularity among the Fanatic Forces of Pakistan.
    The misuse of this Law was evident from the intentions of the Right Winged Pro-Islamic Pressure Groups who claim to be the exclusive custodians of Islam.
    Exactly its misuse is in practice at a large scale on each level.
    It is time to make amendments to the Law of Blasphemy.
    1. The credibility of the plaintiff should be verified first.
    2. The defendant should be given a first verbal warning.
    3. Next he should be served with a written warning.
    4. In case there is no change in his attitude and behavior, he should be summoned to the Court of Law.
    5. The Court could suggest the mode of action or punishment according to the nature of violation.
    6. In case the complaint turns out to be baseless and false, the Plaintiff should be punished for defamation.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:51 #
  18. IJay
    member

    No one even dare to touch blasphemy law ! only modification
    against false claims will be allowed same person who committed this act with awareness must be dealt with iron hands!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 11:58 #
  19. yahya
    Member

    For the really sensible people...

    Before blasphemy law there were no noted blasphemy cases inside or outside country...after blasphemy laws, the focus they have created and the psyche that has developed as a result has caused numerous misdoings in the country, as a result whole world is now indulged in blasphemy in condemnation.

    For me, get rid of these laws and say we mean no harm to anyone and if anyone insults us we'll be the bigger people and forgive. Only way to restore our reputation.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 12:00 #
  20. netengr
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    ایک سچے پاکستانی اور مسلمان ہونے کے ناتے ہمارا فرض بنتا ہے کے جتنے بھی غیر مسلم ہیں ان کی جان ،مال ،عزت آبرو کی حفاظت کریں اور یہی اسلام ہمیں سکھاتا ہے ،اور اگر کوئی دین کے خلاف کہتا ہے تو ہمیں اس کے لیہ قانونی طورر پر آواز اٹھانی چا ہے ،ہمیں طے کرنا ہوگا کے ہم قانون کی حکمرانی چاہتے ہیں یا جذبات کی .

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 15:57 #
  21. IJay
    member

    why don't you crucify yourself on that cross netengr!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 16:13 #
  22. netengr
    blocked

    Why should i ?

    I am just raising my voice against injustice and Zulm

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Aug 2009 16:16 #

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