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‘Jinnahpur Maps Existed’

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  1. asif86
    Member

    http://ummatenglish.com/exclusive/2011/09/03/%E2%80%98jinnahpur-maps-existed%E2%80%99.html

    MQM was to enlist Indian help for Jinnahpur, says former Ranger officer

    Nadeem Darr was a major in Sindh Rangers when he raided Muttahida Qaumi Movement headquarters Nine-Zero in 1990s and unearthed the alleged Jinnahpur conspiracy by recovering maps and flags of proposed state that was to be carved out of Pakistan. He claims MQM killed his son during Musharraf rule, in reprisal for exposing the Jinnahpur plan.

    MQM maintains that it never conspired to break Karachi and other areas away from Pakistan and Jinnahpur conspiracy was a mere blame game. Fact or fiction? Daily Ummat talked to now retired Major Nadeer Darr on the issue that has reborn after Pakistan Peoples Party leader Zulfikar Mirza accused MQM of collaborating with the United State to divide Pakistan.

    Darr, speaking at lengths, said he still stood by his statement that MQM had conspired against Pakistan and “will continue to conspire so long as Altaf Hussain is protected in London.” “Security forces had no personal vendetta against MQM and we were just doing out job. It was not that we just worked against MQM, action had been taken against all criminals,” he said.

    “Our information says that MQM has much more complex network than other criminal groups. It has several wings, unconnected and unidentified to each others. If an MQM worker unauthorized provides some information to other activists within the organization, he would be killed.”

    “I have proofs that a man name Tariq from Aziz Abad was murdered in presence of Altaf Hussain for merely asking a question.”

    The former Ranger officer says there were only two close confidants of Altaf Hussain, namely Babar Ghauri and Saleem Shahzad. “They both oversee a separate intelligence unit, which is used for recce in the target’s area. A different wing is used for action against the target and that is called the operational wing. This wing is operated by the sector incharge and unit incharge is kept in the dark on any mission. The unit incharge only liaisons political and public contacts while the sector incharge’s job is to ‘teach lessons’ and he is trained for this task. After intelligence gathering the sector incharge selects a hitman from its squad and brief him on the target, telling where it would be hit and how,” said Maj. Darr, detailing the inner-working of MQM.

    Asked how he was speaking with such certainty, Darr claimed Mustafa Kamal was involved in the killing of MQM chairman Azeem Tariq and the party had a history of elevating the killers to top posts, though Darr conceded that there were other reasons for Kamal’s nomination as Karachi City Nazim.

    The Jinnahpur

    “MQM had approved Jinnahpur conspiracy in a January 1991 meeting that was attended by Azeem Ahmed Tariq, Imran Farooq, Farooq Sattar and Altaf Hussain. Jinnahpur idea had been floated by Imran Farooq but when Aamir Khan and Afaq picked up on the plan they had a disagreement with Altaf Hussain. They later broke away from the party to form MQM-Haqiqi but first they tried to convince Altaf Hussain that public would not welcome the plan. Altaf said ‘we would use this slogan for political gains without implementing it, to ensure that if army takes action against us we could enlist help from India.’ He was speaking to pacify Aamir and Afaq but in fact he had been authorized to work on the plot,” Darr says.

    Aamir and Afaq later clashed with Altaf and Saleem Shazad was particularly pleased because he was averse to their possible elevation in the party as the two men were active politicians, he said.

    Darr says maps, flags and documents on Jinnahpur had been recovered from sophisticated lockers at the Nine-zero headquarters of MQM. “These were the master copies and another stock was found at Alkaram Squar,” he added.

    “The original blue print of Jinnahpur showed Badin, Thatha, Hyderabad, Lasbeela and Karachi as part of new state. They plotted to break away this territory with Indian help and Thar was to be made part of India with area up to Mirpurkhas coming into MQM folds,” Darr said.

    Imran Farooq and Azeem Tariq, two of the four main players in Jinnahpur conspiracy, are now dead but Afaq and Aamir knew about it, he said.

    The former officer said he had challenged ex-brigadier Imtiaz on his claims that no maps had been recovered from MQM offices. Darr also challenged Gen. (Retd) Naseer Akhtar for similar claims, saying that the former general had many petrol pumps in Karachi and his statements had come due to business consideration.

    Nadeem Darr says he had to flee the country after his home and family was targeted.

    “I lost one son and second was wounded when I took left Pakistan with him in 2001. My house was burnt down. A government house in Guranwala was also set on fire. I survived assassination attempts in Islamabad and when I moved to Dubai hurdles had been erected for me to do business there.”

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 17:13 #
  2. expakistani
    Member

    Never in my life some seriously person from MQM or even ordinary Muhajir talked about Jinnahpur... but look like some Dars, Cheemas, and Janjuas are pushing their own agenda.

    Historically they have little part in creation of Pakistan what so ever and they would like to join back with other punjabi speaking across boarder.

    They have all rights to join back with their SOS

    http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/lofiversion/index.php/t24081.html

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:01 #
  3. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    Yes living my entire life in Karachi I have never heard a single person belonging to MQM in particular and Urdu speaking community in general demanding or wishing Jinnahpur.

    Kindly do not frame us as a being anti-Pakistan. Pakistan already has many anti-Pakistan movments.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:04 #
  4. expakistani
    Member

    Thats what they did in Bangal and doing in Balochistan and karachi.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:07 #
  5. spruce
    Member

    it is true story, criminal use shelter of india MQM need to be eliminated from the mape of pakistan.we need to kill as much as possible their criminal wings to protect pak land.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:16 #
  6. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    Only to Irshad

    We need to kill your leaders and Party PPP and Sindh Quam parasts as many as possible to prevent Jahalat prevaling in Pak-land

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:22 #
  7. spruce
    Member

    just wait for ur worst end.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:35 #
  8. miansahib
    Blocked

    there are people existed in pakistan...who are full of lissaniat...(as expressed above}..fight will go on my friend..

    tootay ga pakistan jub tak ,,,taasub,,lissaniat,,khatam nahi ho gi,
    people who created pakistan are under threat..by these lissani people who support zulfiqar kamina mirza.

    jo pakistan bana saktey hai,,,woh torna bhi jantey hai.mind it

    great example of taasubi people as written above my lisssani friend...about india,,,i bet any thing ..he and his family will never miss any indian movies,,indian dramas must have dance on indian songs in their weedings...O munfiqoo sudher jao......apne ander pakistaniyat jagaoo na ke taasuub.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 19:39 #
  9. jaypk
    Member

    @expaki....i agree to you on this bit that i also havent heard anythin like jinnahpur in my college and uni life in karachi even being very close to APMSO (not an mqm supporter though)...but plz...dnt try and take the credit of making pakistan all by yourself and only the urdu speaking partners....this is rubbish..!

    @miansahib....kon hain yeh jo pakistan bana bhee saktay hain...or ab torr bhee saktay hain..?

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 21:20 #
  10. mangotango
    Member

    problem with our country is illiteracy. You come up with any stupid/ ridiculous idea and there will be audience for it!

    Everybody is champion of its own, consider self better than others and hate everyone for one or another reason be it sect, linguistic, cast n family etc. no wonder we have more than 71 sects, God knows how many nationalities etc. It is easy to induce common Pakistani then anyone else on earth to fight for something or another.

    I am sure this Jinnahpur idea is for particular audience to malign.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 21:24 #
  11. khanseena1
    Member

    Ummat the source of this news is an unreliable Jamiat paper. Therefore this news is not credible.

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 21:30 #
  12. jaypk
    Member

    73 firqay hain bhai...73 :P..correction

    agreed @khanseena....ummat sirf safari park mein dates maarnay walay couples par chaapay ki pics daynay mein he sahee lagta hay.....yeh jinahpur type news k liye credibility chhaiye hotee hay..!

    Posted 8 months ago on 03 Sep 2011 21:43 #
  13. Qaid-e-Azam was born in Karachi. Sindh Assembly was first elected forum who passed resolution in favor of Pakistan.

    Most MQM leadership and their families have criminal background in India. They just came to Karachi, to occupy properties and businesses, which hindu left behind.
    However, some educated and good family peoples like Mian Saeed Ahmad also moved to Karachi to help pakistan. Later he and many other Pakistan loving peoples were killed by MQM criminal gang, to destroy Pakistan, with conspiracy of India. Till now, this conspiracy is going on, with more international help for MQM to break and destroy Pakistan.

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 0:17 #
  14. spruce
    Member

    jinahpur conspiracy planned by MQM
    dream shown to MQM by RAW indian agency

    What I am saying is very simple. Urdu-speaking people living in Karachi, Hyderabad, Sukkur and other cities in the province of Sindh (Pakistan) deserve their own country. An independent country for Urdu-speaking people will solve their economic problems on one hand and provide an environment of freedom from the military dictatorship of Punjab province on the other. Time has now come that the cruel domination of Punjab must end by all means. The Punjabi military has been ruling Pakistan ever since its inception. The Urdu-speaking great leaders who had struggled for the freedom of Pakistan were brutally murdered as part of the Punjabi conspiracy to hijack the country. It has become inevitable now that Punjab should no longer be given the right or power to continue its control on other smaller provinces of Pakistan. At least Sindhis, Pathans and Balochis have some of their regional identities but the Urdu-speaking people have been compelled to become Sindhis which is not possible. Urdu-speaking people have their own identity and worth. It is not possible for Urdu-speaking people to become part of Sindh. This attempt to make Urdu-speaking people part of Sindh has always failed. This fact that Urdu-speaking people are independent in their thinking and are able to represent themselves more effectively if they are independent, should be accepted and recognized by the whole world. One cannot force a French person to become German or a Czech citizen to become Spanish or a Polish citizen to become Russian, similarly, one should also not force an Urdu-speaking citizen to become Sindhi.

    Urdu language is much different from Sindhi language. Not only language, there is glaring difference in terms of culture, traditions, national character, vision, approach, mindset and above all religious thinking. Indeed Sindhis are brothers of Urdu-speaking people in their joint effort to get rid of Punjab's political domination through achieving independence of Jinnahpur and Sindhudesh. Urdu-speaking people cannot be forced to stay with Sindhis forever and without their own right of freedom. Both Urdu-speaking people and Sindhis deserve their respective identities through formation of Jinnahpur and Sindhudesh. Both these nations are not ready to remain under the umbrella of socalled Pakistan which is nothing but a political colony of Punjab. This colony must, therefore, disintegrate without any further delay.

    If other separatist movements in the world are accepted and acknowledged worldwide, movement for a free and independent state for Urdu-speaking people currently living under dictatorial siege of Pakistan army should also be embraced by the United States of America and other Western nations. If Kosovo can get independence in 21st century, why not Urdu-speaking people of Pakistan can get their own country called Republic of Jinnahpur. Urdu-speaking people are also intelligent, educated, hardworking and politically sound to fight for their independence in the 21st century. Urdu-sepaking people should not be under estimated or considered as any regional minority of Pakistan. Urdu-speaking people represent the most educated class in the presently undivided Pakistan. When it come to educational statistics of Pakistan in the field of education, the contribution of Urdu-speaking people is upto 80\%. It must be noted that Pakistan without Urdu-speaking people is nothing but a jungle of illiterates from Punjab and people in uniform who have hijacked this country for the economic betterment of military dictators along with Punjabi bureacracy and their families.

    Republic of Jinnahpur shall be an economic capital of South Asia which will beat Dubai and Singapore on one hand and become a great place for foreign investment on the other. The deserving people of Republic of Jinnahpur will have job opportunities because of billions of dollars of foreign investment which is at present hindred because of terrorist activities sponsored by Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and other military sponsored organizations. Such terrorist activities conducted by Pakistan's ISI and other military sponsored militant organizations have rather blocked the economic progress of Karachi which in turn have created hurdles for the deserving educated Urdu-speaking class to invite foreign investment into Karachi. It is only possible if Karachi gets its independence and formation of Republic of Jinnahpur shall ensure that the deserving Urdu-speaking people will get their right of progress and prosperity under the banner of an independent country called Republic of Jinnahpur.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mohajir/petition.html

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 0:28 #
  15. spruce
    Member

    MQM aganda of jinahpur

    I, Therefore, Suggest That Mqm Being The Single Political Force Of Urdu-Speaking Nation Of Pakistan Should Do The Following Immediately:

    1. To Form Jinnahpur Liberation Movement Immediately Which Should Comprise Of Urdu-Speaking Youth, Intellectuals, Artists, Businessmen, Students, Religious Scholars, Politicians, Writers & Poets, Journalists, Members Of Civil Society, Educationists And People From All Walks Of Life In Order To Accelerate Movement For Acquiring An Independent Country Called Republic Of Jinnahpur;

    2. To Organize A Massive Plebiscite And Take Votes From Urdu-Speaking Nation To Consolidate Their Desire For An Independent Country Called Republic Of Jinnahpur;

    3. To Coordinate With Usa Senators, Eu Member States And The World's Top Human Rights Organizations In Order To Make Them Aware About The Demands Of Urdu-Speaking Nation Living In Pakistan And Their Rights Of Existence With A Specific Identity Under The Banner Of Republic Of Jinnahpur;

    4. To Approach United Nations To Send Peace Keeping Troops To Karachi Immediately To Avoid Yet Another "Operation Clean Up" By Pakistan Army On The Pretext Of Elimination Of Terrorism And Sabotaging The Movement For Independence;

    5. To File Official Application With The Office Of The Secretary General Of The United Nations To Recognize Independence Of Republic Of Jinnahpur And Request For Military As Well As Diplomatic Assistance Of The United Nations;

    6. To Approach Muslim World And Disseminate Information To Them About The Political Rights Of Urdu-Speaking Nation And Need For An Independent Country For Them;

    7. To Organize Conferences, Press Briefings, Seminars, Workshops, Meetings And Fora In Different Parts Of The World In Order To Convey Message To The Whole World About The Importance And Need Of An Independent Country For Urdu-Speaking Nation In South Asia For Peace And Harmony In The Region;

    8. To Apply For Membership To All Regional As Well As International Associations, Groups, Treaties, Clubs, Unions And Organizations (Trade Or Otherwise) On Behalf Of Republic Of Jinnahpur;

    9. To Form A Government-In-Exile Of Republic Of Jinnahpur With Immediate Effect In Any Eu Country Or Usa Or India;

    10. To Approach Parmanent Members Of Sucurity Council Of The United Nations To Seek Their Consent And Approval For Formation Of Republic Of Jinnahpur By Presenting To Them All Facts And Figures In Support Of The Idea Of An Independent Country For Urdu-Speaking Nation In South Asia;

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mohajir/petition.html

    Republic of Jinnahpur
    http://www.jinnahpur.blogspot.com/

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 0:38 #
  16. expakistani
    Member

    @jaypk
    I never said other have no contribution but historically Punjab got least contribution in Pakistan movement.

    Now here some people are trying to eliminate urdu speaking / Mohajir which is not possible so just a advice for such people get a life.....

    Dont try to push people in way that separation would be only option. World Power broker surely looking for Karachi as small state ( may be state with in state ) but mass population of Karachi, Urdu or any other language speaker is not looking for such thing.
    But Bangali movement didnt start directly with independent they ask for Bangali as offical language and proper share in Government and we failed to listen to majority of people then in 1971.

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 3:11 #
  17. How much you want more from peoples of Sindh and Pakistan. Your criminal mafia already snatch biggest city of sindh and Pakistan from original residents.
    Your gangsters are always in powers, enjoying powers and government money. Does not matter, which party is in power.
    Since the birth of MQM, more than 80000 innocent non urdu speaking peoples of Karachi, has been killed by your MQM death squads.
    Last 26 years, Karachi is hostage by your criminal mafia. Common person in Karachi has no freedom to criticize your crimes.
    Now your criminal mafia threatening to break pakistan. But, with the name of god, you will never succeed for that, because, peoples of pakistan now awake up and will destroy this criminal mafia, before they damage Pakistan. your all criminals will be pushed back to India or to be force to live peaceful life as normal citizen of Pakistan.

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 5:51 #
  18. Thread: http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/who-is-jamaluddin-jinnahpurblogspot has been merged below:

    Irshad
    Member
    What I am saying is very simple. Urdu-speaking people living in Karachi, Hyderabad, Sukkur and other cities in the province of Sindh (Pakistan) deserve their own country. An independent country for Urdu-speaking people will solve their economic problems on one hand and provide an environment of freedom from the military dictatorship of Punjab province on the other. Time has now come that the cruel domination of Punjab must end by all means. The Punjabi military has been ruling Pakistan ever since its inception. The Urdu-speaking great leaders who had struggled for the freedom of Pakistan were brutally murdered as part of the Punjabi conspiracy to hijack the country. It has become inevitable now that Punjab should no longer be given the right or power to continue its control on other smaller provinces of Pakistan. At least Sindhis, Pathans and Balochis have some of their regional identities but the Urdu-speaking people have been compelled to become Sindhis which is not possible. Urdu-speaking people have their own identity and worth. It is not possible for Urdu-speaking people to become part of Sindh. This attempt to make Urdu-speaking people part of Sindh has always failed. This fact that Urdu-speaking people are independent in their thinking and are able to represent themselves more effectively if they are independent, should be accepted and recognized by the whole world. One cannot force a French person to become German or a Czech citizen to become Spanish or a Polish citizen to become Russian, similarly, one should also not force an Urdu-speaking citizen to become Sindhi. Urdu language is much different from Sindhi language. Not only language, there is glaring difference in terms of culture, traditions, national character, vision, approach, mindset and above all religious thinking. Indeed Sindhis are brothers of Urdu-speaking people in their joint effort to get rid of Punjab's political domination through achieving independence of Jinnahpur and Sindhudesh. Urdu-speaking people cannot be forced to stay with Sindhis forever and without their own right of freedom. Both Urdu-speaking people and Sindhis deserve their respective identities through formation of Jinnahpur and Sindhudesh. Both these nations are not ready to remain under the umbrella of socalled Pakistan which is nothing but a political colony of Punjab. This colony must, therefore, disintegrate without any further delay.

    If other separatist movements in the world are accepted and acknowledged worldwide, movement for a free and independent state for Urdu-speaking people currently living under dictatorial siege of Pakistan army should also be embraced by the United States of America and other Western nations. If Kosovo can get independence in 21st century, why not Urdu-speaking people of Pakistan can get their own country called Republic of Jinnahpur. Urdu-speaking people are also intelligent, educated, hardworking and politically sound to fight for their independence in the 21st century. Urdu-sepaking people should not be under estimated or considered as any regional minority of Pakistan. Urdu-speaking people represent the most educated class in the presently undivided Pakistan. When it come to educational statistics of Pakistan in the field of education, the contribution of Urdu-speaking people is upto 80%. It must be noted that Pakistan without Urdu-speaking people is nothing but a jungle of illiterates from Punjab and people in uniform who have hijacked this country for the economic betterment of military dictators along with Punjabi bureacracy and their families.

    Republic of Jinnahpur shall be an economic capital of South Asia which will beat Dubai and Singapore on one hand and become a great place for foreign investment on the other. The deserving people of Republic of Jinnahpur will have job opportunities because of billions of dollars of foreign investment which is at present hindred because of terrorist activities sponsored by Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and other military sponsored organizations. Such terrorist activities conducted by Pakistan's ISI and other military sponsored militant organizations have rather blocked the economic progress of Karachi which in turn have created hurdles for the deserving educated Urdu-speaking class to invite foreign investment into Karachi. It is only possible if Karachi gets its independence and formation of Republic of Jinnahpur shall ensure that the deserving Urdu-speaking people will get their right of progress and prosperity under the banner of an independent country called Republic of Jinnahpur.

    Pakistan has been declared a failed state and therefore remaining part of Pakistan means declaring ourselves as failed too. Urdu-speaking people of Karachi cannot be classified as failed because it is due to them that Pakistan has been surviving so far. Had there been no educated class making contribution towards Pakistan's economic growth in the last 60 years, Pakistan would not have reached to the level where it is now. However, due to its political failure and its inability to remain as a sovereign state, Pakistan is very close to its disintegration. In such a situation, it would not be ideal for Urdu-speaking people to remain intact with Pakistan. Rather, it is important that Urdu-speaking people should initiate their fight for freedom while Pathans, Balochis and Sindhis should follow suit. Republic of Jinnahpur can establish a precedence for freedom of all nations currently suffering under the military siege of Punjab.

    When I say "Punjab", I do not intend to include those great people of Punjab who consider themselves as Ghulaman-e-Ahl-e-Bait (Servants of Holy Prophet Muhammad SA, His beloved daughter Hazrat Bibi Fatima AS, His loyal son-in-law Hazrat Ali AS, His beloved grand sons Hassan AS and Hussain AS) and also the Seraiki nation who were wrongfully made part of Punjab province by the cruel Punjabi politicians in order to gain monetary gains by manipulating the total population of Punjab province. Even after 60 years, the Seraiki belt has been economically kept backward while poor Punjabi servants of Ahl-e-Bait were deprived of their constitutional right of serving in the Pakistan Army because of Wahabi-oriented policies made by Asian Hitler called General Zia-ul-Haq back in 1979 which kept Shia and true Barelvi Sunni Muslims away from army jobs. The doors of Republic of Jinnahpur shall remain open for such Punjabi brothers forever.

    As for the Pathans, Balochis and Sindhis, I would like to convey my message to them that they should also get up from long sleep. The Punjabi military killed several Pathan freedom fighters, Baloch freedom fighters and even stabbed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who had brought back home 90,000 Punjabi Prisoners of War. The brutality of Punjabi military can be evaluated on the basis of their one single act that they stabbed and killed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who was their rescuer from Indian prison. Not only this, the Punjabi military recently killed Benazir Bhutto in order to wipe her off from the political scene to keep the status quo alive. The murder of Bhuttos should be sufficient for the Sindhis to wake up and get their own independence from Pakistan by forming Sindhudesh. Similarly, independent Pakhtoonistan and Balochistan should also appear on the world map in the nearest future.

    The Urdu-speaking people are peace-loving people in true perspective. They dont want any confrontation, however, they have their right to defend themselves against the brutality of Punjabi army. The Urdu-speaking people shall not become victim of yet another Operation Cleanup which was once conducted by Punjabi army in 1992. Nawaz Sharif and his Punjabi political team of hypocrites cannot succeed in their conspiracy to regain substantial power again although they have just swallowed a bitter pill of shaking hands with Asif Zardari, a Sindhi man and spouse of Shaheed Benazir Bhutto. It is important that Asif Zardari should immediately understand conspiracy and hidden agenda of Nawaz Sharif and his political team of hypocrites who do not possess any sympathy or love for any nation otherthan typical Wahabi minded Punjabis. Nawaz Sharif is only waiting for the right time to confront Asif Zardari and as such Nawaz Sharif will definitely attempt to get into Pakistan's National Assembly through a by-election and thereafter challenge Asif Zardari and Bhuttos' Sindh-based political party called Peoples' Party. I cannot accept for any reason that Nawaz Sharif or his political team of hypocrites would ever accept any Sindhi, Pathan, Baloch or Urdu-speaking person to become Pakistan's prime minister. This is impossible for any Punjabi hypocrite like Nawaz Sharif to extend his hand for cooperation or affection towards any Sindhi, Pathan, Baloch or Urdu-speaking person in the name of socalled political reconciliation. I ask all the politicians from Pakhtoonistan, Balochistan, Seraiki belt and Sindhudesh not to believe Nawaz Sharif and his false promises of mutual cooperation or other similar sweet slogans. A snake is always a snake. Nawaz Sharif cannot be trusted.
    The Last Word
    I want all Urdu-speaking people living in Karachi, Hyderabad, Sukkur and other parts of Sindh to become active members of JINNAHPUR LIBERATION MOVEMENT. This movement shall be non-militant and non-violent in reality. This movement shall be run by Urdu-speaking intellectuals, educationists, workers, students, businessmen and politicians. This movement shall be peaceful and totally committed for creating international awareness about the great demand for an independent state called Republic of Jinnahpur by the Urdu-speaking people living under military siege of Pakistan army.
    who is he?
    indian raw conspiarcy
    http://jinnahpur.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=4

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 19:44 #
  19. Irshad
    Member

    http://www.jinnahpur.blogspot.com/

    is it indian RAW conspiracy and jamaluddin is indian agent?

    अल्ताफ हुसैन मुर्दाबाद
    Syed Jamaluddin, writer of "DIVIDE PAKISTAN TO ELIMINATE TERRORISM" and "FORMATION OF REPUBLIC OF JINNAHPUR" has declared that both Altaf Hussain and Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad are playing in the hands of Sindhi political establishment headed by the WORLD´S MOST CORRUPT MAN CALLED ASIF ALI ZARDARI. According to Syed Jamaluddin, both Altaf Hussain and Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad have decided to put the Urdu Speaking Nation under political lien against short-term monetary benefits. Syed Jamaluddin is of the opinion that Altaf Hussain is under pressure from the intelligence agencies to remain committed to the agreement which was made between MQM and the then military establishment during Musharraf regime. In accordance with the said agreement, Altaf Hussain had promised to ensure that Karachi would always remain peaceful regardless of what may happen in this city. After 2008´s national elections which brought PPP in power, there were problems between PPP and MQM on many occasions and most recently there was a situation which could have derailed the entire democratic setup. At this juncture, ISI intervened through Pervez Musharraf (London) and pressurized Altaf Hussain to follow the agreed terms. Hence, Altaf Hussain decided to follow the "INSTRUCTIONS" received by him from the bosses of ISI. Similarly, ISI also used its influence to convince PPP government to defer the Commissionerate system in Karachi and Hyderabad for the time being in order to restore socalled "PEACE AND HARMONY" in the urban centres of Sindh province. This means that both Sindhi political establishment and Altaf Hussain + Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad decided to reconcile in order to pave way for socalled mutual harmony. Restoration of Local Government system is just an excuse to send back the Urdu Speaking nation back to "Sindhi political siege". And this time, this has been intentionally conspired by both ALTAF HUSSAIN AND DR. ISHRAT-UL-EBAD.

    Syed Jamaluddin has criticised this socalled "RECONCILIATION" as nothing but an open HYPOCRISY committed by both the Sindhi political establishment and Altaf+Ishrat-ul-Ebad under the banner of MQM. According to Syed Jamaluddin, Urdu Speaking nation will now have to wait possibly for many more years in order to get their right of independence which was looking apparent if a new province for Urdu Speaking nation was on the cards. If a new province for Urdu Speaking nation is fomed, this will surely pave way for an independent country to house all Urdu Speaking people living in various parts of Pakistan including Sindh. He has said that whatever Dr. Zulfiqar Mirza had said was PPP´s main policy which was later corrected through a "DAMAGE CONTROL" mechanism orchestrated by Dr. Baber Awan and not Rehman Malik. Sindhi political establishment still considers Urdu Speaking nation as "OUTSIDERS", "STRANGERS", "BEGGARS" and "ALIENS" on (as they think) the Sindhi soil. This mentality will never be abolished or eroded from the minds of Sindhi political establishment. Even if Altaf Hussain wears Sindhi cap for next 100 years or marries 100 Sindhi women, this mentality of the common Sindhi person will NEVER BE CHANGED against the Urdu Speaking Nation.

    Syed Jamaluddin has urged MQM in strongest terms to stop exploiting the political strength given to them by Urdu Speaking nation by simply making independent decisions in the air-conditioned rooms of THE PRESIDENCY or THE GOVERNOR HOUSE. Syed Jamaluddin has asked: "Where are HAIDER ABBAS RIZVI, DR. FAROOQ SATTAR and MUSTAFA KAMAL who live in Karachi and know the ground realities".

    Syed Jamaluddin has personally appealed to HAIDER ABBAS RIZVI, DR. FAROOQ SATTAR and MUSTAFA KAMAL to kindly protect the rights of Urdu Speaking nation and disallow any attempts being made by ALTAF HUSSAIN+DR. ISHRAT-UL-EBAD to collateralize Urdu Speaking nation against their personal benefits. Both Altaf Hussain and Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad have become "SPECIAL ACCOMPLICES" of Asif Ali Zardari and have jointly assured Asif Ali Zardari that MQM would back out from the demand for a new province for Urdu Speaking nation. This is nothing but a great deception and betrayal being committed by Altaf Hussain and Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad.

    Syed Jamaluddin has also appealed to all Urdu Speaking youth of Karachi and Hyderabad to get up against the conspiracy hatched by Altaf Hussain and Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad in joint collaboration with the MOST CORRUPT PERSON IN THE WORLD called ASIF ALI ZARDARI. Syed Jamaluddin has asked the Urdu Speaking youth to come on streets and begin their protest against any "CONFIDENTIAL GIVE-AND-TAKE" between Altaf Hussain and Asif Ali Zardari. The Urdu Speaking youth MUST COME ON THE STREETS OF KARACHI AND HYDERABAD TO DEMAND A NEW PROVINCE FOR URDU SPEAKING NATION and nothing less than that. Once the province for Urdu Speaking nation comes into existence, this will ensure that REPUBLIC OF JINNAHPUR will also be formed SOONEST.

    WE WANT "JINNAHPUR" AND WE REJECT ANY "DEAL" BETWEEN ALTAF HUSSAIN AND ASIF ALI ZARDARI.

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 19:51 #
  20. So many theories that one may wonder what’s the truth…however I came across this article(written two years ago) by some Nadia Khan :

    Jinnahpur - what MQM workers say about it?
    by Nadia Khan

    Since then Brigadier (Retired) Imtiaz, one of the main beneficiary of ' failed' National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO), has appeared on number of TV channels and revealed that the story of Jinnahpur is fake and orchesterd by agencies, I became curious to know more about it. As it was made public by the army media wing (ISPR) during those days and later some controversy exist that it was taken back, I became more interested as what common men, muhajir activists, and Karachi residents say about it!

    I was willing to know more about Jinnahpur, its plan, its dimensions, and finally its failure in 1992. As the issue just popped up again with the publishing of Syed Jamaluddin, a Germany based anti-Pakistan writer, books' "Divide Pakistan : To eliminate terrorism" formerly it was his petition for separate homeland for Urdu-speaking majority of Karachi, my requirement was to identify the root causes associated to this idea and its linkage with

    Muhajir Qoumi Movement, now Mutahidda, if there exists.
    For this I have to go back to Karachi and find the people, who had witnessed 1992 army operation and who could open up their hearts about MQM of late 80s. In July 2009, when I landed in Karachi, I wouldn't know that this exercise would not limit to Karachi only and I would be travelling to far & wide and contacting people in search of truth by collecting bits & pieces from one continent to another,from number of MQM die-hard lovers to dissidents.

    No one who had lived closer to Altaf Hussain or NineZero, would be able to speak the truth. Azeem Ahmed Tariq's family has left Karachi and workers close to him has been either killed or dispersed for reasons known to everyone. His words, portrait, or photos are no longer part of today's MQM rallies, literature, or media campaign! He is gone with the wind in today's MQM.

    I started my work, based on the facts as what made late Azeem Ahmed Tariq away from Altaf Hussain's group that finally lead the events in a way to take his life! Was it purely security agencies cruel act or the forces behind Hisham uz Zafar, who was presented on PTV as the main accused of Azeem Ahmed Tariq's murder, nad now freed due to NRO, had conducted the crime of his own! After all he was MQM's chairman and his killers were not apprehended like the killers of Benazir Bhutto! Even it is stranger that today's MQM of Altaf Hussain is not interested in finding out the culprits. These dead or shaheeds of MQM, if Altaf group considers them as part of MQM, are covered under the rubble of NRO!

    It took me a week or so to get connected with sympathizers of late Azeem Ahmed Tariq in today's MQM. Their out come surprised me more than any findings, even the discovery of Penicillin, as revealed by late Ashfaq Ahmed!
    'He became the victim of Pakistan's love!' one of the workers informed me with grim voice.

    For what? I asked vehemently

    'He doesn't want to join the hands of foreign forces, when 1992 army operation was in progress and it was fiercely opposed by him.' one elderly worker responded with bitter tone.

    That discussion was the tip of an iceberg of Jinnahpur. I started meeting more MQM workers to get know the facts, especially words those travel by hearts only, means worker to worker only, because to gather the hidden truth.
    After two weeks of hectic search within the MQM-Karachi circles, I was able to find out only that 'the right person who knows more about Jinnahpur is Dr Imran Farooq and Saleem Shahzad was the one who had presented a Silver colour passport of Jinnahpur to one of his associate, when he was living in Dubai soon after his exit from Karachi during 1992 operation.'

    Currently Dr Farooq lives in London and a bit away from Altaf Hussain's blessing, so I decided to approach him at later stage and same with Saleem Shahzad close associates who live in UAE and MQM workers in South Africa, if there's a need be!

    One suggestion came to me is to 'contact Haqiqi senior members and they will know more about this fact.' I rejected this idea as talking to Haqiqi-group would not lead me towards truth due to number of political or factional-differences reasons. So I decided to continue my quest, as a common person for finding the truth about Jinnahpur from the common workers of MQM.

    One fine morning, while talking to an old associate of Dr Imran Farooq in Al Karam Square, who had witnessed 1992 Army Operation, spend sometime in Karachi Central Jail & now distanced himself from the party, I was told that 'after 92 operation when Imran Bhai became cornered & left with no option then he had requested help from Indian Consulate Karachi. Number of his loyalist got India visa including Javed Bhai (famous Javed LangRa, who was killed during Naseerullah Babar operation). Worse moment was that, when we all were in a discussion (of same kind) in a house near North Nazimabad Block S, due to some tip off, the house became surrounded by Rangers & security forces. The fighting lasted for 4 hours and we -safely- moved away Imran Bhai in a water tanker from block S to a place in Malir. The discussion was all about seeking Indian Consulate Karachi help to recapture Karachi.'

    This was a great piece of information, if true, from the mouth of an old MQM associate. So I can move on to my search little ahead. Within this context, readers would be reminded that Indian Consulate Karachi was closed during that period while Army Operation was being conducted.
    After meeting with few of old MQM activists, who are now in their mid 50s and enjoying their survival after such operations, cleansing, & inter-party fights living mostly in Al Karam Square, near NineZero, and Azizabad, I wanted to dig some more ground in other urban parts of Sind as the proposed map of Jinnahpur includes Hyderabad, Meerpurkhas, and Nawabshah also. I was told that few gentlemen in Hyderabad could talk more on that subject. I became happy as getting closer to my target.

    After 114km drive, when I reached Hyderabad, I was met by an old man, fairly old in his late 60s, who knows the stalwarts of former MQM and their pasts. He was off the view that 'today's MQM has betrayed the Muhajir community by not fulfilling its earlier promises and now diverting the attention towards Punjab.'

    This was the argument; we discussed before, so I ignored it and wanted to know about the annexation of Karachi, first from Sind and later from Pakistan, if planned.

    'What would be Muhajir's reaction living in Hyderabad (interior Sind), if MQM or Altaf Hussain one fine morning decides that 'it's enough to be with Pakistan?'' I had thrown my question with little care!

    'We will listen to our leader, as he is the only one who is our torch bearer!' I was answered
    'We have no other option, if PPPP fails to ensure our rights!' another answer came in.

    Indirectly this was endorsed by the Karachi Nazim, Mustafa Kamal when he made some surprising remarks and observations at the businessmen's dinner in Karachi on 11th July 2008 in honor of the then President Pervez Musharraf. He told the audience that they should not take their money away from Karachi because "if they return after six months or one year the region and its geography may not be the same."
    He had made these comments in the presence of the then president Musharraf and the governor of Sind indicated something is being cooked out among MQM circles, if not Jinnahpur then what!!!

    Before moving to my next destination, I decided to understand the approach of MQM activists, as how they see Karachi, if they will not be given their due rights. This barometer could be used as MQM or its activist love for Allama Iqbal, as I have came across few of MQM activists who openly defy this famous poet and the visionary of Pakistan.

    For the first time in MQM 20 year's history, Altaf Hussain has directed MQM Rabita Committee members to present themselves at the tomb of Allama Iqbal on 9th November with garlands. This was the change and everyone in Punjab has to notice it. Either it was due to Gilgit-Biltistan elections or MQM-desire to enter Punjab, this is the barometer and one can check the level of MQMs love for Punjab or Punjabis. So, finally MQM has realized that Allama Iqbal is also a personality, who is symbolized as love with Pakistan, and whom MQM had ignored since ages.

    My next destination was United Arab Emirates, where many of the exiled leaders of MQM had spent some time soon after their exit from Karachi during 1992 operation. When I entered Sharjah, I was told that Aamir Khan, the secretary general of Muhajir Qoumi Movement, used to live near Sharjah-Ajman border, close to Corel Beach Hotel. As he was not in my list of to-be-consulted, so I decided to keep away his aides still living here. Also the aides or Mateen Yousuf, deputy Mayor of Karachi when Farooq Sattar was the mayor, live in Dubai but they were not on my watch-list, so I ignored them.

    I was finding out the person, who has been showed the passport of Jinnahpur in Dubai in 1992, as revealed by an MQM activist in Karachi. After a week long effort, I got connected with that 'gentleman' and upon his own request (for various reasons) I with held his name here. I was told that he is engaged in 'used-cars' export business in UAE since last 17 years and came here during 1992 operation. Next morning I was sitting in front of him, in his showroom, as a car buyer. In next few visits, he has opened himself and what he said, as part of his conversation with a buyer/Karachi-resident (I posed myself as a MQM lover), is mentioned below:

    I left Karachi in 1992 with so much difficulty, first went to Lahore and then came here on a visit visa. Later, received some money through hawala and started this business.

    Saleem Shahzad is my cousin and we both were involved in MQM activities together. When he came here in Sharjah, he had spent some months living with me only. He has changed himself, during those days, used to wear Arabic dress (Kandura) and went to Saudi Arabia visit for Umra also.I have seen a silver color passport also.

    Both Muhajir & Sindhis can't live peacefully in Karachi and our ultimate target is to have a separate 'province' for Muhajirs and if there's no grant of Muhajir-province then we have no other option than a separate homeland!

    This piece of info was more than enough for me to understand what is hidden at the back of the then-MQMs higher ups; their motives, failed action and future plans! The important tip which I got is that - after 1992 operation many of the MQM activists either fled to UAE, or Japan, or South Africa. Few of them, who already possess USA visa fled there and restarted their activities. Much of the used-cars business in UAE is under the hands of MQM activists.

    My next route was London, where I could meet Dr Imran Farooq. His close supporters spoke differently about his party for that he has almost given his life and time. One view is that, 'he has been sent by agencies under the cover of an activist of Dawat e Islami (those who wear green turban) otherwise his exit from Pakistan was next to impossible. He is the one who is passing all party information to military agencies to counter party actions etc etc.'

    Some say that his growing influence within the party has lead Altaf Hussain to sideline him otherwise party could ignore the founding-father. Whatever is the truth, this has given me an understanding that he might not be able to open himself especially when the matter of separating Karachi (or Jinnahpur) would come into discussion, so I decided to be away from him. Another reason, when one news piece came to my knowledge which was published recently and that wasn't denied by Dr Imran Farooq closed circles, is his frequent meetings with Indian security advisors; I decided to pack my bags without the interview-meeting.

    When the plane took-off from Heathrow Airport, my mind was flying even higher than Emirates A-380, as how many forces are targeting Pakistan. Frontier corner is engaged with terrorists, though the blame goes to Taliban only but so far no thorough investigation has been carried out that could identify the real culprits behind suicide or bomb attacks, another corner is having number of angry Baloch youngsters' – living in Baluchistan or outside – demanding separation, Sind may come up to fire when Jasqam recent rally shouts slogans of Sindhudesh, and now a thought is in mind about annexation of Karachi as Jinnahpur!

    What the founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah's soul would be thinking as his name is used to divide Pakistan!!!

    http://nadiakhaan.blogspot.com/2009/11/jinnahpur-what-mqm-workers-say-about-it.html

    Posted 8 months ago on 04 Sep 2011 20:53 #

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