scandinavian
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I heard a serious allegation on PML that under their rule 110 police officers where killed.
Does anybody know whether it is those officers who participated in the action against MQM.
Is it PML-Q or PML-N?
In any case this act is highly condemn-able and CRIMINAL!!!
scandinavian
Member
The "MQM tout" Haroon-Ur-Rasheed is referring to at the end is Mubashar Lucman :) In the prg. "Operation Room" Lucman did use foul language.
Also note how uneasy Lucman is almost through out the program!
some police offercers were killed by MQM criminal mafia, during Nawaz Sharif government with his approval.
And some police officers were killed by MQM target killers, during Mushraf governement with his approval.
2011pakistan
Member
Mr. Lic man is always in search of new bosses.
he has been in salman tasir tv channel and supported Musharraf, then became provincial minister during interim govt, then
changed a number of tv channels again,
tried always support indirectly MQM,
always support military govt to become minister again,
tried posting of media advisor soon after expiry of minitership in interim govt,
always pose to be very genious intelligencia,
now a days, supporting IK and MQM.
Shame.
Regarding killing of police officers who took part in action against criminals of MQM, police depatment can explain the factual position itself better than Haroon Rasheed (again a self claimed genious like Liq man).
http://vidpk.com/49833/Jaahil-Mubashir-Luqman-flirting-on-tv/
He has been flirting many times with females and Khawja sara, during his programs.
scandinavian
Member
@msyedh
"some police offercers were killed by MQM criminal mafia, during Nawaz Sharif government with his approval."
Do yo have any further knowledge about this. Any references or is it commonly known issue that NS sold out these police officers? And what was the purpose? The usual alliance to get enough seats or was it also outside pressure?
aftab arif
Member
What was Mubashir arguing about...Haroon Rasheed said nothing wrong.
scandinavian
Member
@Aftab
Mubashar proved that he has indeed a malicious agenda. I think he intentionally tried to malign Haroon, but it back fired. I also liked the cool response from Haroon since he also can be a hot head sometimes when he is up against morons like Mubashar.
aftab arif
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@ Scandinavian
I concur, i think he has some favouritism for MQM, because otherwise his rant was totally uncalled for, and even the host was saying that HR did not say, what Mubashir was accusing HR off.
oneUp
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@Scandinavian
Mubashar Lickman is a third class person a tout of MQM. HR didn't say anything wrong. Lickman was distorting his statement and resorting to cheap personal digs. I think he got exposed badly. His blurb on 'my pay cheque is heavier than yours' reflect his cheap mindset.
mangoman
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^ True oneUp...Mubasher Lickman is a cheap person, no doubt about that, he is not only cheap but also corrupt, MQM tout and yellow journalist.
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MQM killed 650+ Sind Police Officers
(http://thecurrentaffairs.wordpress.com/2009 /10/18/mqm-killed-650-si nd-police-officers/)
By Dr Shahid Qureshi.
Few years ago I asked Shoib Shuddle former of Director General of Intelligence Bureau and Inspector General Police at a reception in London.‘what is your input about the cold blooded targeted killings of Sindh Police officers who took part in the ‘operation’ ordered by Benazir Bhutto’ in 1995. He acknowledged the fact that there was a problem. Though police in Pakistan is known for its brutality but it is also true it is under resourced and ill trained but they are still managing?
MQM is a mercenary group whose HQ is in London and possibility of its leader to go to Pakistan is Zero? It exaggerate everything no doubt death one person is too many but their claim that 25000 MQM workers disappeared is the extreme. Where is the list of those 25000 people and where are they buried? MQM is in power for the past 10 years consecutively why did they not investigate these killings? Why Altaf Hussain never thought of asking for a judicial enquiry into the Karachi Operation in 1992?
The South Africa branch of MQM and its activities are very suspicious especially the Nishtar Park – Karachi terrorist incident when whole leadership of Sunni Tehreek was eliminated. According reliable sources that to those who examined and conducted post-mortems of the bodies found bullet marks and some of them were shot in head. It seems that cause of death was bullets then shrapnel’s of bomb explosion? According to a source that people who were involved in this terror might have been provided safe passage to South Africa? It is reported that the whole operation was monitored by a MQM leader from a minority group? It seems a case of targeted killings. Only a high powered judicial investigation into this act can expose the crime.
It is alarming that MQM members have been issued arms licences in thousands and Rehman Malik interior minister allegedly issued approximately 2000 permits of AK47. Some members of MQM recently absconded from (apart from being on ECL) Pakistan and came to London were allegedly involved in arms trafficking from Baluchistan.
Late Benzair Bhutto “condemned the killings of 650 police officers and said, my thoughts are with families of those killed in the line of duty.
I asked late Benazir Bhutto at dinner in London few years ago to comment on the targeted killings on reportedly more then 650 police officers in Karachi. Most of them killed had taken part in the Karachi Operation conducted by the PPP government. Ms Bhutto, “condemned the killings of police officers and said, my thoughts are with families of those killed in the line of duty. She demanded that (Musharaf) government should brought killer/ terrorists to justice and protects the men doing their job and following orders”. Some people say that MQM is more dangerous then any terrorist organisation’.
After September 11, the United States identified even more with the MQM as it was the only party in Pakistan that widely mourned the attacks on the US, openly condemned the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and launched a powerful campaign in support of the US attack on Afghanistan. MQM has been the only party to support the military’s intervention in the tribal areas.
Asia Times Online reported, ‘sources say that, ‘only US diplomatic intervention stopped Musharaf from taking strong action against the MQM after he received the report on the recent unrest in which the MQM was implicated. Washington indeed has a powerful southern ally (MQM) in Pakistan’.
It is time for the government of Pakistan to approach its friends and allies to have a clear cut answers about the real Agenda in Pakistan? Crimes of Altaf Hussain and his party MQM are so heinous that he couldn’t dare going back to Karachi even the whole period of Musharaf and now Zardari rule?
Until November 1998 Government of Pakistan was reportedly seeking extradition of Altaf Hussain was wanted in 50 murders and 150 cases of kidnapping and arson. Altaf Hussain, a trained pharmacist who has been living in England since 1992. ‘If extradited to Pakistan he will be killed’, said Altaf Hussain in an interview with a newspaper in 1998. “It is my wish that they take me to trial in a British court,” said Mr Hussain. “Then I will tell people nationally and internationally what has been happening in Pakistan.”
Pakistan seems land of the holy men where people are forgiving each other for breaking all laws corruption, extortion, murders, kidnapping and anti state activities including violation of the constitution. Why and how can individuals do that? A senior journalist said, ‘President (Asif Zardari) and Prime Ministers (Yousaf Gillaini) House is subcontracted to Richard Holbrok, Raiwind Palace (Nawaz Sharif) is to Mark Lyal Grant and David Milliband. Altaf Hussain is already a British Citizen an asset whom so social services can handle? This is how a country of 180 million, a nuclear power perceived internationally?
Altaf Hussain woke up recently and started weeping as if he never knew anything for the past years about the Karachi operation conducted during Nawaz Sharif’s premiership? He is woken by the statement of an allegedly corrupt foreign mole Brigadier Imtiaz former head of the Intelligence Bureau who might have lot to answer for the deaths of two Chiefs of Army Staffs General Ziaul Haq and General Asif Nawaz? He allegedly lured General Zia ul Haq to attend that Tank demonstration in Bahawalpur while his friend Major General Mahmood Ali Durani planted the toxic mango crates?
In reality this awakening is linked with the judicial enquiry into the killings of 12th May 2007 and brutal murders of judiciary activist? This is brining sleepless nights? What happened to Major Kaleem of the Pakistan army is still an open file as well as the systematic targeted killings of more than 670 police officers who took part in operations against MQM? This is what making Altaf Hussain do live telephonic speeches otherwise there are many daily flights to Karachi and being a dual citizen he has no restrictions?
A senior London based analyst wrote in a Journal recently, “It is no coincidence that Asif Zardari- PPP swore in two MQM Ministers in the federal cabinet the day the party submitted its draft for 18th Amendment (provincial autonomy) to the Constitution. The dissolution of the federation and creation of a Mohajiristan in Sindh is the ultimate objective of the proposed amendment. The two parties represent hostile Indo-US interests; they want to weaken federal authority and incorporate right of secession in the constitution to facilitate the break-up of Pakistan. The PPP has indeed been a symbol of federal unity until AZ took over. Now it is an instrument of the policies of the enemies of Pakistan.”
“Dr. Farooq Sattar is the one who drafted this bill with mala fide motive in order to make proper political arrangement in the long run for the formation of an Urdu speaking state known as REPUBLIC OF JINNAHPUR as proposed by one MQM Activist – Syed Jamaluddin – based in Europe. Syed Jamaluddin has proposed in his said book that Jinnahpur shall come into being exactly in the same manner as KOSOVO few years ago. Please note that Kosovo was an autonomous province of Serbia. Hence, if MQM´s Provincial Autonomy Bill is approved (God forbid), one day the MQM shall declare independence of Republic of Jinnahpur through a vote in the Sindh Assembly exactly in the same manner as the Kosovo Assembly in February 2008.
Dr. Farooq Sattar has been appointed the Minister for Overseas Pakistanis to pursue MQM’s agenda of bringing foreign investment into Karachi which will be portrayed as DUBAI and SINGAPORE of the future as outlined in the same book “FORMATION OF REPUBLIC OF JINNAHPUR” by MQM Activist SYED JAMALUDDIN. The script of the book was approved by the MQM leaders in London prior to its publication as part of MQM´s policy to blackmail Pakistan’s establishment including the Pakistan Army.
In TV interviews, representatives of MQM have darkly warned that unless their Bill for Provincial Autonomy is passed, Pakistan’s disintegration shall remain on the cards. This is indeed an open threat. (See http://www.dividepakistan.blogspot.com for the web site of the Indian agent and MQM spokesman Syed Jamauddin.)”
MQM has crossed the lines of terror, corruption and extortion. All political prisoners should be released on merit not used as blackmail?
(Dr Shahid Qureshi is award wining journalist and writer on foreign policy & security based in London)
I always doubt since day one, that Oct 18 2007, first attack on Benazir Bhutto was from Talbans. It was not suicide attack. It was planted Bomb. There is possibility, that MQM and Musharaf may be behind that attack to clear their future politic.
Because, MQM was worry that in presence of Benazir, they will be not able to occupy further areas in sindh province, as they did in past 7 years, during Musharaf's powerful government.
Despite signing NRO between Benazir and him , Musharf was not happy, for return of Benazir, before election. He feared, that, his Q league will be defeated and this will weaken his power sharing position with PPP.
Talbans terror activities, terrorism image and international propaganda was available to Musharaf and MQM to blame this attack to Al-qaida and Talbans, after killing her with planted bomb.
scandinavian
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We are deviating from the real issue!
Can someone shed some more light on the real issue...whether PML did the dirty deal with MQM or not? And who was the mastermind and who are to be blamed for such heinous crime!
spruce
Member
@msyesh
It is obvious the same agency killers that killed Murtaza Bhutto killed BB.
Never in Pakistan's history have these people been held accountable no matter who they kill, or how much they loot.
mushraf,RM,MQM are the real benificiaries of BB's murder.
scandinavian
Member
@Irshad
What the heck? What is he waiting for? PPP still fail to find the culprits after 3,5 years have past. What a shame, but after all some of the piplyas are finding a little bit of courage to speak a partial truth.
sultanalikhan
Member
I thought the question here was whether the claim of 110 policemen killed in PML rule was true?
I take it people love to have a go at MQM at any given opportunity, relevant or otherwise!!!!
Adonis
Member
"It is obvious the same agency killers that killed Murtaza Bhutto killed BB. "
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Murtaza Bhutto's family accuse no agency but only one person for his killing and that person is Asif Zardari.
So you are now accusing Zardari for Benazir's murder as well?
spruce
Member
zardari was tool because murtaza misbehaved with him in an airline and agancies took the oppertunity to revenge from Murtaza because they knew that blame will go to zardari.
Adonis
Member
So why is it that you became aware that it was not Zardari but the agencies who killed Murtaza Bhutto, but Murtaza's family still accuse Zardari? Haven't you shared your information with them?
And why after Murtaza's killing, Benazir did not take any action against agencies if they were involved? And why Zardari has not taken any action against agencies during his current 3 and a half year rule?
scandinavian
Member
@SultanAliKhan
"I thought the question here was whether the claim of 110 policemen killed in PML rule was true?"
yes, the question is as above mentioned. Both Irshad and Adonis are off topic.
Was it PML-N or PML-Q who was involved in this crime?
sultanalikhan
Member
@Scandinavian.......thanks for clearing that up...
As for the thread question, well, I am sure it was not PML-N because it has proved itself beyond any shadow of doubt of being incapable of killing even ****-mosquito, let alone smashing 110 Policemen....They are only good at making money!!!
scandinavian
Member
@SultanAliKhan
I think you have misunderstood the issue. The issue is not whether PML (N or Q) killed 110 police officers. The issues is PML (N or Q) did allow MQM to have free hands against these police officers, who participated in the police action against MQM terrorists, by having them posted in MQM accessible areas in some kind of an EVIL deal....you scratch my back and I will scratch yours no matter how evil you are.
Is it not understandable that the police is reluctant to take any action against these terrorists if they can risk an extradition?
sultanalikhan
Member
@Scand.....oh okay, I got what you mean......it is even much more horrendous where top politicians are in cahoot with each other for their nefarious design.....Allah save us from these evils.....amen
Nawaz Sharif government was responsible for killing of police officers, because they allowed MQM for this. They did not stop MQM. They did not take any action against MQM killers,for those killings.
But we can't blame Q league leadership, because Musharf was godfather of this party. He had real control of that Q league government. Musharaf was responsible for all MQM killings and crimes. He had direct dealing with MQM.
scandinavian
Member
@msyedh
Do you have any proofs or links to any article about PML-N being behind this heinous crime?
Btw: I agree that the main culprit is Musharraf, but Q-league cannot go scot-free. They have a tremendous responsibility for the committed atrocities too.
@Scandinavian
It is common sense, if Nawaz Sharif government was ignoring these killings. He did not take any action to stop and pumish MQM killers, then he is responsible for that killings. MQM, as allied, was part of Nawaz Sharif goverment. They were enjoying government powers and same time, killing police officers. It is impossible, that they could double play without Nawaz Sharif's secret and quite approval.
I don't have connection with any agency, no connection with any political party. I am sure, peoples whom were connected and involved, they must have some written proofs too.
scandinavian
Member
@msyedh
If it was a PML-N rule, then they are off course responsible for this heinous crime.
When did this happen in PML-N rule?
scandinavian
Member
I am little bit surprised (or am I?) on why nooners are avoiding this issue. Dal meiN kuch kala hai...otherwise they would have jumping up and down with their usual BS.
zingaro
Member
The actual revenge was taken by MQM in the era of Musharraf. They had the lists of all those officers who participated in operation against MQM. Only few could save their lives and that too on "seeking forgiveness under oath", otherwise rest all were target killed. I am trying to remember a famous Inspector who was shot shot with thousands of bullets in his body. I think his name was Bahadur.. someone correct me if i am mistaken.
@Irshad... Are you trying to innocent or really a kid? Don't you know who killed Murtaza Bhutto? If you are not a kid and you also didn't lost your memory then you must remember that the then police chief was Shoaib Siddle, the associate of Mr. Zardari.
siddiqi73
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Lol at net clubbers for their never ending quest to dig scum with their bare hands! Zingaro has aptly stated as to who held the powers when MQM was running around killing such Police officers in droves.
zingaro
Member
@Siddiq73 .. Yes man we must always speak truth. And to speak truth all the times are always appropriate.
scandinavian
Member
@Zingaro
As you have put it then the blame is mainly on Musharraf and secondly on PML runaways in the form of PML-Q. I am right?
zingaro
Member
Absolutely correct that it was under the patronage of Musharraf. Although Q league was also a "laundi" of Musharraf but I don't consider them part of this brutality because their working style is different.
scandinavian
Member
@Zingaro
Do you have any references? f.ex. articles or other documents which show that Musharraf was behind this crime (also this one)?
scandinavian
Member
I heard in an interview that it was in fact under PML-N that the poor police officers were sold to be killed by MQM by none other than.......PML-N. If true then it is VERY grave CRIME!!!
d0ct0r
Member
110 policeman killed in PML rule? .. by MQM
Terror gang MQM Altaf continues to kill policemen,rivals in Karachi
Criminal mafia MQM Altaf continues murdering senior police officials in Karachi
Policeman behind arrest ofassassinshot dead
September 8, 2011 (3 days ago)
KARACHI, Sept 7: A policeman, believed to have been instrumental in the arrest of a suspected assassin a few days ago, was shot dead in the Malir area on Wednesday, officials said.
The 37-year-old head constable, Javed Iqbal, was attacked by an armed rider near Evergreen Chowk in Malir City when he was out on an official task.
“He was posted at the Malir City police station,” said a colleague of the victim.
“He left the police station on his motorbike for an official task in the second half of the day and was targeted near Evergreen Chowk in the Bakra Peeri area when he was returning to his workplace. According to witnesses, the assailants on a motorbike used a 9mm pistol in the attack.”
The victim, a resident of Geedar Colony in Landhi, was involved in the investigation of some very ‘important cases’.
A senior official said the head constable had played an active role in the arrest of a key suspect of recent killings.
“It’s not very difficult to assess in such a situation as to who could be behind that killing. His efforts led to the arrest of a suspected assassin and his murder seemed to be linked to his official work,” said Malir SSP Rao Anwaar.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/08/policeman-behind-arrest-of-assassin-shot-dead.html
d0ct0r
Member
These MQMized terrorists are literally caught with their pants down after that Chakra Goth ambush of police bus by MQMized Madhuris
Even after that incriminating evidence against these MQMized Madhuri Dixits we are still pointing fingers in wrong direction.. ?
scandinavian
Member
@d0ct0r
Are these links about PML-N involvement in MQM murders. I don't see the information about that. Can you clarify?
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member
Doctor's psycho babel, he must have ben sleep-writing it. Keep doing it like your other JI douchebags and turds.
zingaro
Member
@scandinavian
MQM got the historic leap in the era of Musharraf. You must remember that N-league was already kicked out of government on 12 October 1999 and afterward it was Mush and MQM who were ruling in Karachi. In simple words you may say that MM Alliance (Mush+MQM alliance) swept N-league from there and NS visits Sindh only when there is some invitation. You may check the records as into which time period the majority of those officers were killed. I hope that will be self explanatory.
scandinavian
Member
@Zingaro
Right now I cannot say for sure who is to be blamed - though I don't doubt that MQM was behind this heinous crime. There is no justification of killing police officers who just performed their duty. If MQM shoudl have had any grudge anybody then it could have been against those who made the decision to clean KHI and not honest police officers on duty. In the future any police officer will think more than once if he is to perform a duty like that. Who ever made the job easy for MQM is a rascal and criminal!
I had my information from this video:
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