7 Reasons why the West wanted Gaddafi dead

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7 Reasons why the West wanted Gaddafi dead

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spruce
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Exposing The Truth
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THE 7 REASONS WHY THE WEST WANTED GADAFFI DEAD

1. Gaddafi wouldn't bow down to the Rothschild central reserve banking cartel.

2. Gadaffi Proposed $400 million African Satellite - gadaffi alone came up with $300 million for this project.

For those ask whats the big deal in it, it's really a huge set back for European western countries, because they get paid by Africa every year $500 million per year in rent for the services European satellite provides to Africa.
Africa being self sufficient is definitely a set back for western economy.

3. AMF: African Monetary Fund - No more borrowing from Rothschild Central Bank for African countries, AMF was planned to produce its own currency for Africa, backed by Gold standard.
Interest free.

4. Libya's $300 Billion Gold reserves.

5. Libya sits on Africa's largest oil and natural gas reserves.

6. Gadaffi planned to free the entire African continent from the clutches of Western imperialism.

7. Libya's Blue gold - Libya's priceless water basins.

* In Libya there are four major underground basins, these being the Kufra basin, the Sirt basin, the Morzuk basin and the Hamada basin, the first three of which contain combined reserves of 35,000 cubic kilometres of water. These vast reserves offer almost unlimited amounts of water for the Libyan people. *In the 1960s during oil exploration deep in the southern Libyan desert, vast reservoirs of high quality water were discovered in the form of aquifers. * thus Gadaffi, started the construction for the Phase I of the $25 Billion "Great Man made River Project" in 1984.

The Great Man-Made River (GMR) is a network of pipes that supplies water from the Sahara Desert in Libya, from the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System fossil aquifer. It is the world's largest irrigation project
As of now, almost all three phases has been finished by the Libyan administration .

It carries more than five million cubic metres of water per day across the desert to coastal areas, vastly increasing the amount of arable land. The cost of one cubic meter of water equals 35 cents. The cubic meter of desalinized water is $3.75. Scientists estimate the amount of water to be equivalent to the flow of 200 years of water in the Nile River.

Here is the $70 trillion Blue Gold in Libya, that caught the most attention and Love of Bankers.

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 14:42 #
HollyFlame
Member

These are very interesting facts, thanks for sharing.
And there is one thing more about Gaddafi that made Europe and USA tremble,he supported Pakistan in the Nuclear project with money.He gave the Idea to spread this Nuclear power to Muslim countries so that westren lobbies would lose courage to interfere in Muslim countries.

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 14:58 #
spruce
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Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 15:34 #
semirza
Moderator

@Irshad
Great topic. Thanks.

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 15:51 #
oneUp
Member

(As expected, Libya turned into a US puppet state).

New Libyan "PM" is Big-Oil Goon

Meanwhile, rebels turn guns on each other turning Tripoli into a war zone, again.

Tony Cartalucci, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

Associated Press recently reported that Libya's rebel militants have named a new "prime minister" this week. AP depicts the latest unelected Western proxy, Abdurrahim el-Keib, as a progressive academic who has spent decades in the United States teaching at Alabama University and leading the local Muslim community. Mentioned briefly as a "former employer," however, is the Petroleum Institute, based in Abu Dhabi, Dubai and sponsored by British Petroleum (BP), Shell, France's Total, the Japan Oil Development Company, and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company. El-Keib is listed as a "Professor and Chairman" in his Petroleum Institute profile which also describes extensive research conducted by him sponsored by various US government agencies and departments over the years.

Photo: And so begins the farce that is Western "democracy." One corporate-fascist puppet, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, steps down, another, Abdurrahim el-Keib, takes his place. In reality, it is NATO-states and their corporate sponsors that now determine Libya's fate.

In essence, el-Keib, like his predecessor Jalil, is Libyan in name only and has been working for Western corporations, governments, and institutions for decades. Like Jalil, or Egypt's Mohammed ElBaradei, el-Keib is yet another agent of Western interests masquerading as an indigenous leader in a foreign land. That his rise to power was paved by thousands of NATO strike sorties in a 7 month military operation spearheaded by the United States and at the cost of tens of thousands of Libyan civilians makes his ascension to power in Libya ever more a desecration of Libya's sovereignty.

Meanwhile, the London Telegraph reports NATO-backed rebels turned their weapons on each other yet again in Tripoli, with hundreds of fighters exchanging fire near a hospital after one armed faction tried to murder a patient they had injured the night before. The report also cites a growing list of atrocities being committed by rebel fighters before noting the "unprecedented" nature of NATO's "victory" in Libya.

While the corporate media attempts to plea ignorance over the growing body of evidence suggesting indeed both NATO and the rebels committed the very atrocities they accused Qaddafi of committing as a pretext for their half-year long murder spree, it has been well documented since fighting began in February that the rebels, far from being pro-democratic fighters, were actually Al Qaeda affiliated Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) militants with a long history of terrorism and barbarism. It has also been extensively documented that these rebels have verifiably killed US and British troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan over the past 10 years, as noted by a West Point Combating Terrorism Center report.

Despite this, US representatives, including Senator John McCain, have personally met with LIFG militants praising them as heroes who have "inspired the world." Alarmingly, McCain made his remarks in Tripoli even as rebels publicly declared their intention to purposefully cut off supplies and medical aid to the population in Sirte to admittedly "starve the city into submission" with NATO assistance - a grievous war crime.

Words cannot describe the injustice being brought upon Libya, the level of duplicity it was carried out with, and the flagrant looting the nation is now being subjected to by NATO's member states, facilitated by the latest unelected, decades-long servant of Western interests now masquerading as the nation's new "interim prime minister."

Tony Cartalucci's articles have appeared on many alternative media websites, including his own at Land Destroyer Report.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/11/new-libyan-pm-is-big-oil-goon.html#more

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 18:22 #
ChangeIK
Blocked

There was an easy way for him.

He should not have fought against his own people. There won't be any NATO interference.

The manner of his demise is a lesson to those who kill their own people for clinging to power.

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 19:38 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

If Qadafi couldn't achieve about in 42 years, probably he needed another 420 would have been sufficient :)

Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 21:22 #
spruce
Member

i know lebyan people will suffer because they were provided free electricity where no one have to pay electric bills during gaddafi regeme but now western influence will come and will be burden on lebyan people.

west has been playing double/dirty game creating uprising in middle east because British government has spent tens of thousands of pounds training Yemeni security forces and supplying equipment to the suppressive regime over the last five years, a governmental report reveals.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/208256.html

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 0:22 #
HollyFlame
Member

There was nothing wrong with Libyan people in Gaddafi's regime except they were not free.They have no freedom of speech and freedom of act.Gaddafi was so proud and ignorant about the people that he was sure that all of his doings are the manifestations of orders of Allah almighty.
He had provided his people every facility that any European can have, but not the freedom that even the third world countries have.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 7:03 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Many people express that Ghaddafi was a very wrongful person. The question then arises, 'Why did NATO help the rebellions?"

Explicitly, Ghaddafi became a victim of a Western conspiracy like Shah Faisal,Bhutto, Reza Shah Pehalwi and Anwer Sadaat.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 7:30 #
ukpaki1
Member

salam
@ChangeIK

now this was the propaganda by the neocons that gaddafi was killing his own ppl, u know how. when that uprising began in feb this year, all the western media started propagating that gaddafi was killing his own ppl so on and so forth. a bbc reporter interviewed saif ul islam gaddafi, she asked him y ur regime is killing protestors, he (saif ul islam) openly challenged her and he said i ask every media person who is in libya, just show us one single case where we killed innocent civilian, we r just fighting with those who r challenging the writ of the state with heavy arms and weapons. having heard that bbc reporter had no answer to that.
this was the fact that those rebels were provided with heavy arms and weapons and on top of that even during first 3 months nato carried out more than 6000 air strikes in libya which killed many civilians including rebels, so just tell me whether gaddafi was killing his ppl or nato was doing that. the unfortunate thing happened to gaddafi was that half of his army defected to rebels, that thing dented him alot.

when gaddafi came into power in 1969 as a result of bloodless coup, he lifted the standard of lives of ppl seven times. the libyan ppl used to live in villas not in normal houses. they enjoyed every benefit even during embargo. whenever a country is in embargo, how difficult for it to survive but even then gaddafi gave everything to his nation because it was an oil rich country. it was not the victory of ppl of libya rather it's the victory of zionists. they once again succeeded in their conspiracy.

May ALLAH bless Pakistan and Pakistanis

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 11:09 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Evidently, NATO's support was not on humanitarian basis. NATO support is always believed to be based on satanic basis.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 11:17 #
hypocrite
Member

Was Late Gadaffi and his son the only two people in Libya who could hve brought peace, propserity and freedom to Libyans. Why Late Gadaffi had to rule for 42 years without going back to his people for endorsement that he is has their support to continuing the rule?

International conspiracies have existed in this world before, do exist now and will continue existing. Sometimes these conspiracies are hatched by West and sometimes by East, but what makes a person rule for 42 years, put people behind prison in the name os safeguarding country's interest and yet get killed by his own people

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 11:33 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Ghaddafi had his merits also, but the new leadership that has come into power with the help of NATO can't be expected as holy cows.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 16:08 #
aftab arif
Member

Even though Gaddafi did a lot of good things for his people but 42 years is too much for any leader to be in power that long, but would that have saved Libya from this destruction, i don't think so. The Libyans had a good thing going but now it will be gone and the dodgy NTC will rule with the backing of NATO.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 16:41 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

if he was really that clean, i wonder why he had a special royal servants made of only women... this man had an addiction for women and he bought them with his money. power had made him blind

i dont think his interests were aligned with the people... he ruled them for 40 years, but you cannot rule a people singlehandedly by keeping them quiet for so long... even in kingdoms, kings keep changing. this guy was true dictator which means kill anyone who speaks against u

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 18:06 #
cutenice62
Member

@quaidkamazaar

i agree, things needs to be more opened about qaddafi rather than just showing two extreme sights........butt i do think time has come before the upcoming of dajaal....read hadiths and u will come to know all the world is going on the way lead to his emergence.....May Allah save us all...

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 18:14 #
oneUp
Member

@ChangeIK

There's no evidencee he was killing his own people.
Libyan people were far better off than the people living in your Western countries. Tell Obama to stop killing his own people and stop torturing innocent soles in Gitmo. The only force that killed Libyans were NATO terrorists.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 19:13 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

The man is dead. Let us not talk about him. But let us remember that whenever we drift away from Islam, Kuffar pounce on us based on false pretexts-Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia. Just before the uprising, NATO leaders were entertaining Qaddafi's son in hopes of lucratve contracts. Now they killed them to get more lucrative contracts. It is same story from Saddam to Qaddafi. They patronize and use phychos and then dispose them off at their whim.

Lesson for all:

Never beg Kuffar for help. They come in with regime change, democracy and other pretexts including killing "terrorists" and we unfortunately fall into the bait and help them "occupy" and plunder.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 19:41 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

"But let us remember that whenever we drift away from Islam, Kuffar pounce on us based on false pretexts-Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia. Just before the uprising, NATO leaders were entertaining Qaddafi's son in hopes of lucratve contracts."

You are kidding yourself again. Once you remove your favourite argument that distancing ourselves from Islam (which ever version you hold as the only true version and it is obviously the only true version) is somehow the root cause of all our ills, you will notice that the causes are quite complex and require an intelligent and rational response.

Don't go for the easy and the most impractical option, aim higher if you are truly interested in a solution. I believe, you won't have to compromise or dilute your belief in Islam in anyway to look at the problems we are faced with today in an objective and rational way.

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 23:09 #
hypocrite
Member

I believe, you won't have to compromise or dilute your belief in Islam in anyway to look at the problems we are faced with today in an objective and rational way.

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stingingnettle

You seem to be in full command today. Once again well said

Posted 6 months ago on 05 Nov 2011 23:54 #
junaid
Member

Hussain Farooqui

very well put

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 0:04 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

Nettle,

We need to look at those gems that made epoch making history. They were the first generation of Muslims and no one will be able to match them until the Kingdom come. Whenever they suffered setbacks they evaluated their shortcomings and tried to fill in the gaps where they swerved away from the pratice of deen. Whatever complex and trivial problems they faced they always resorted to the Book. There is nothing more complex than what they faced and what we face today. No one is waiting for another Messiah.

We went through the first phase of salvation when we achieved some sort of independance. You may deny it but if it was not for the battle cry of Islam, it was not attainable. Then the puppets hijacked the freedom and continue to pursue some one else's sinister agenda. And today this current phase is dedicated to the ultimate dumping of those homegrown puppets. Slowly but surely we are getting there.

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 2:27 #
spruce
Member

During Iraq war EU joined hands with USA, all the benefits of oil, minerals, gold, hijacked by USA and enjoyed alone then people from west pushed their governments what they gained during Iraq war since all wherewithal enjoyed by USA alone then as a ally what the benefit from Iraq war after that west governments asked USA that they are withdrawing from Iraq, afghan war since they have no benefit from war..

After all this contradictions USA promised west that he will hand over Libya as a gift to West to compensate their losses Then they started uprising in Libya according to their plan to create chaos and they sent their agents to kill innocence people to make a reason that gaddafi govt killing innocence people so that it is important to get rid of gaddafi.....

USA remained silence he was watching this show by sit back and relaxed until Gaddafi final destination.

This was preplan game by CIA to make west happy.

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 11:57 #
semirza
Moderator

NATO is Europe and WEST, the USA is considered as West by the East like China and others.
Perhaps you confused global cordinates...
On the other hand not everything could be blamed on the west. This you should understand and understand properly. You are too confused and cannot differenciate between the East and the West so nothing comes out positive.
Libya was a target of the WEST, and its downfall was facilitated by the NATO and countless NGOs...Not forgetting the UNO is main tool to facilitate Global Occupation by one single entity...the West. Any doubts?

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 13:27 #
spruce
Member

@SEM

Thanks for correction I would like amend west into EU.

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 15:15 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

"We need to look at those gems that made epoch making history."

This is the bit I agree with if you do not qualify it with the rest. Trying to recreate the past, glorious or otherwise, is not just counter-intuitive but also un-necessary. It is however important that we exercise eclecticism and learn from all sources about the best practices of governance and civil harmony.

We should stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Ideas of compassion, justice, charity, honesty and tolerance have been around long before the muslims arrived. So let us stop pretending it all started with us for the first time.

A return to humility is my choice. That way you learn from all and impose on none.

Salvation is for the living not the destitute or dead. Let us deal with the destitution of the living and worry less about those that have kicked the bucket. With the living destitutes we still have a chance.

"There is nothing more complex than what they faced and what we face today."

You could not be more wrong. The complexity of life today does not even match that of 20 years ago let alone many hundred years ago.

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 20:57 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

Nettle,

Again who has made it so complex and for what?

The glutonous materialistic dog eat dog life style is our own creation. Surely there is big difference in this age and bygone era but that centers around the belief system. Even the worst of Kuffar believed in the Creator in early history of mankind but satanic temptations are on the rise these days and has created havoc with all kinds of pagan systems extending from socialism to secularism to other isms. The unfortunate result is the complexities in the true meaning of life.

Posted 6 months ago on 06 Nov 2011 22:22 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

For the West, the Muslim countries are just toys and the Muslim rulers just puppets. If the public is tired of one puppet, then the replacement is made by another puppet ha ha ha

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 6:31 #
semirza
Moderator

NATO attacked Libya to help Libyans is not true. Its the Libyan wealth they are after :

GRODNO OBLAST, 4 November (BelTA) – The NATO operation in Libya is an act of 21st century vandalism, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko told the press in Grodno Oblast on 4 November.

Asked about Libya’s future taking into account the large number of firearms on people’s hands, proposals voiced to introduce Sharia law, penetration of terrorist groups into Libya, Alexander Lukashenko said:

“We can view the situation extremely negatively only.

How can we evaluate NATO actions in Libya? As a violation of the mandate of the UN Security Council.

I am not exaggerating this headless and senseless Security Council. I am not exaggerating their role and the role of the United Nations Organization. The latter has evolved into some kind of cover-up. See for yourself: Iraq, Afghanistan, an entire Arabic curve. Why has UN failed to prevent all of it?”

According to Alexander Lukashenko, the UN and the UN Security Council played in favor of the aggressors. “It seems they have written one mandate while the NATO troops dared to violate the mandate,” said Alexander Lukashenko.

In his words, now many say that NATO has violated the UN mandate, including Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. “I absolutely agree with him,” said the head of state.

“An aggression has been accomplished, the country’s leadership have been murdered, not only Muammar Gaddafi. Besides, he was killed by NATO special forces. They mocked him, tortured him, raped the injured man, broke his arms and then killed him. They did worse than the Nazis in their time”.

God forbid the policy will prevail across the globe, said the Belarusian leader.

Alexander Lukashenko mentioned events in Tunisia and Egypt where positions of radical Islamists have become much stronger. “The situation in Libya will be much worse because the country has colossal deposits of natural resources. Everyone has rushed to get there. Besides the USA, Italy, France, Germany have up to $150 billion of Libyan money now. They are very interested in snatching these riches.”

Alexander Lukashenko remarked that in Libya and other countries of the Arabic curve where revolutions have happened the people the West does not exactly like rise to power. “They cannot control this thing. It will serve them well. This act of the 21st century vandalism cannot happen,” stressed Alexander Lukashenko.

“But such actions show the face of our so-called teachers of democracy. Do you need this kind of democracy?” wondered Alexander Lukashenko.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27490

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 11:47 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

SE Mirza

"Asked about Libya’s future taking into account the large number of firearms on people’s hands, proposals voiced to introduce Sharia law, penetration of terrorist groups into Libya, Alexander Lukashenko said:"

These are old times tricks of the West to destabilize the Muslim countries. Similar things happened in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq and recently in Libya.

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 11:54 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

Complexities are good because they provide us a way of comparing systems and fine tuning our lives. Diversity is to be celebrated and not be feared. If you think you have a system that is good, then you will have the attention of the general public sooner or later. What you can't have is the insistence on a system that has no parallels of success in recent history and that is based on conformity and uniformity in a world where both these commodities do not exist not even in a place like Saudi Arabia.

Angelic Vs. Satanic is an oversimplification of life and living. Most people live with the huge expanse that separates the two limits. We have to stop chasing a mirage and focus on what our people need to live a comfortable life first before we can ask them to get philosophical about political systems. In short, people are not sheep.

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 20:21 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

Nettle,

Agree. Every human being is born on "fitrah". They are not sheep by natural in-born behavior but they are transformed into sheep by the divergent forces at play from pharoanic media to politics to secular education.

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 21:33 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

Contrary to popular belief, secular education is not irreligious, religion-free or atheistic education. This is an important point and it is for this reason secular school systems are not necessarily a bad thing. In the absence of uniformity in any faith in existence today, secular education is the only viable way forward. Give parents the responsibility and freedom to give their children faith education of their choice. Islam's revolution is in absolute personal responsibility of the individual, sure even you agree with that.

Posted 6 months ago on 07 Nov 2011 22:16 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

okay the west is seen as manipulative, supporting resistant groups inside all these countries.

but what have the leaders of muslim countries done anyways to gain sympathy from their people and their support? their character is so bad that whether it is any agency that wants their downfall, it is worth it.

if it takes NATO support to bring the rule of people in these countries and to take down anarchy of evil leaders, then so be it.

the west gets to tap into the resources of these countries following these rebellious revolutions and bloodshed.... but on the other hand you have anarchist rulers... pick one.

Posted 6 months ago on 08 Nov 2011 20:36 #
sweettruth
Member

@quaidkamazaar

Well summed up!!

Posted 6 months ago on 09 Nov 2011 14:52 #
spruce
Member

@QKM

I am agreed with you but the reason is that west always playing double rule to hire their own mindless leaders who can dance at their tunes and they used to dictate the Muslim world leaders for their own benefit, most of Muslim world establishments are slaves for west.

they have no interest with lebyan,pakistan,egypt,tunisia,yeman,behrain, people they used all the leaders to work against their masses then our cowarded,gready leaders done every thing worst for their public interest and then west collected all the mischief’s and used to get sympathy that such and such leader had done worst with their people.

If they do their own business then no matter we have good people to serve the nation and we can deal the dirty establishments of our country better way.

Who the hell west to decide future for Muslim world since we have ideal religion Islam and we can apply in our real life to lead the nation towards success.

Major bone of contention in Muslim world is establishment who never want good leaders to grownup who can lead the nation to wards prosperity.

Posted 6 months ago on 11 Nov 2011 4:26 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

West is playing very dirty games in the Muslim countries. Whenever any competent leader rises in a Muslim country, a campaign of allegations start up to topple his government. Some foes of that leader from his society are supported to work against him and topple his government. Either that leader is killed or forced into exile.

However, it is the matter of our own weakness that West finds a freehand to intervene in our affairs. We must strengthen our basic things to be independent.

Posted 6 months ago on 11 Nov 2011 6:46 #