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A mosque in Manhattan

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  1. khanseena1
    Member

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/13532/a-mosque-in-manhattan/

    A mosque in Manhattan
    By Aziz Akhmad

    May 16, 2010

    There is this little mosque on West Broadway, in lower Manhattan, in the neighbourhood called Tribeca. This is not a purpose-built mosque but a nondescript, two-storey building with a simple but tidy facade, like any other apartment building on the street. Walking by you wouldn’t know if there was a mosque inside — no noise, no clutter of shoes at the doorstep and no haphazardly parked taxis and cars outside on Fridays. Only the signage at the door, in small print, tells you that the place is Masjid al Farah. The mosque was established in 1990. Years later, three bars opened on the same street, two on either side of the mosque and a third a little removed. The city laws require bars and restaurant owners to file an affidavit at the time of application for license, declaring that they are not in violation of the rule that prohibits setting up such establishments in close proximity – within 200 feet – to schools or places of worship. Violation of the rule can result in cancellation of licence.

    Even though, legally, the mosque could object to the opening of the bars next door, it did not, and continued tending to its flock quietly, right through 9/11, and several years afterwards. The city woke up to the 200- feet rule when residents, annoyed at the opening of yet another bar on the street, complained. To reinforce their case against the bars, they also pointed to the presence of the mosque. The City immediately served notices to the offending establishments for revocation of their licences. The case came to the Community Board 1, an elected body that looks after civic matters of lower Manhattan, where all such cases are first decided. The bar owners pleaded not guilty on the grounds that they have been doing business all these years and were unaware of the presence of the mosque. They were probably right because even I, living quite close by, didn’t know about this mosque until I read the story in the The Tribeca Trib, a community weekly, which first broke the news.

    The position taken by the mosque, however, surprised everyone. Its representative said they don’t want people to lose business because of them, that they have no objection to the nearby bars and have never had problems with them, and that the mosque would remain neutral in the dispute. “We don’t dictate other people’s behaviour,’ the mosque spokesman named Ali said, and added, “we believe in non-judging and tolerance.” (A message that mosques in Pakistan could use.)

    Barely four days after the failed Times Square bombing, a Muslim organisation called Cordoba Initiative presented an ambitious plan to build a mosque and Islamic cultural centre on a site acquired by them some time back, just two blocks away from the World Trade Centre site. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a co-founder of the Initiative, said: “We need to evolve from being immigrant Muslims in America to being American Muslims.”

    The proposal was doomed, some speculated because the families of the victims of 9/11 had strongly objected to the project, and the Times Square incident had rekindled the fears about Muslim extremism. But this time, it was the community board that surprised everyone. It accepted the proposal unanimously with enthusiastic applause, the committee chairman declaring after the presentation: “Everything I’ve seen [in the proposal], I like very much. I think it’s going to be a wonderful asset to the community.”

    Tolerance can be contagious.

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 15:36 #
  2. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    You don't know the first thing about how much tolerance Muslims have shown towards non-Muslims over the centuries.

    What you see is illusion of tolerance which the west drums up all the time.

    It is worrying to see how you choose to turn a blind eye to reality, to ignore/sideline reality, while at the same time your effort to highlight an illusion and term it as reality.

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 19:54 #
  3. khanseena1
    Member

    @Haris

    Dear Haris Bhai, when did I say muslims have not shown tolerance to other religions in the past or currently?
    I am not sure why you are angry at such a positive post - highlighting muslim tolerance and virtues?
    What in this post is an illusion /reality?

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 20:14 #
  4. Buddhism started in the swat valley. There are some really nice 150ft tall buddha statues in Bamiyan.
    Tolerance! lol.

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 21:01 #
  5. SufiSoul
    Member

    Un k liye SALE me koi aur statue khareed laina..Idiots khush ho Jain gy...
    Hum apny Around me is tarah ki Pagal Pan nahi Badasht ker sakthy is liye Ura diya Statues ko...

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 21:50 #
  6. Hum apny Around me is tarah ki Pagal Pan nahi Badasht ker sakthy is liye Ura diya Statues ko...

    lol deep thoughts and words of wisdom from sufi jiee the great on Tolerance! lol

    In a general meaning, tolerance is the ability to accept something while disapproving of it
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toleration

    The highest result of education is tolerance. Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd. The capacity for getting along with our neighbor depends to a large extent on the capacity for getting along with ourselves. The self-respecting individual will try to be as tolerant of his neighbor’s shortcomings as he is of his own. Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too.

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 May 2010 21:59 #
  7. Dergah/Nur Ashki Jurahai/Sufi Order/Masjid al-Farah

    درگاہ نورعاشقی شجرہ صوفی مسجد الفرح

    It seems, this masjid belongs to a Sufi/Brailwi sect. During the last 30 years, various denominations of Islam have been trickling into the USA. But I have yet to see a Mizar/ Mausoleum of a Sufi in the USA where people could enjoy the Lunger and Dhmal besides the usual wishes for a boy child and a tamed husband. I think this mosque's congregation will fulfill that requirement.

    http://www.tribecatrib.com/newsfeb06/liquorstore.htm

    http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010051410192/homeland-security/ground-zero-mosque-developer-and-muslim-brotherhood.html

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 0:03 #
  8. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: There are increasing number of events in the west, which deface their so called 'tolerance'.

    Don't! talk about 'tolerance', 'collective fear'. Your credibility will take a further hit, when I give you hard facts.

    @Azizi: Your worried about two bar owners ?!

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 9:53 #
  9. haris khan
    Can you define tolerance or justice for me. I would like to hear your defination of any of these words.

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 9:56 #
  10. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: These words don't have differing definitions.

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:00 #
  11. I am trying to figure out your defination of these words. What does the word tolerance mean for you?

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:09 #
  12. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: What's your point ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:21 #
  13. It seems to me you do not understand what the word tolerance means. I am asking for your definition of this word to understand what it means when you use it?

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:24 #
  14. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: I'v already said, there's only one definition of tolerance.

    That should have been enough to answer your question.

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:43 #
  15. there's only one definition of tolerance.
    would you like to share what is your definition of tolerance?
    Tolerance is the appreciation of diversity and the ability to live and let others live. It is the ability to exercise a fair and objective attitude towards those whose opinions, practices, religion, nationality and so on differ from one's own.

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 10:56 #
  16. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: You'r only telling Muslims to be tolerant, who have already been more than tolerant to-date. You'r not telling the other side to excersize 'tolerance'.

    That is my point.

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 11:23 #
  17. Dear Lota

    Check for yourself, how tolerant muslims were to your favorite Jews

    http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9C0CE5D8133FE63BBC4B51DFBE66838C669FDE

    This is from NYT archives so you CANT ignore it

    FJ

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 12:35 #
  18. Lota Ji

    and here is tolerance shown by your jewish friend to a fellow jew.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=126708&sectionid=351020202

    FJ

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 12:47 #
  19. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @lota6177: I have a fresh video on youtube for you, titled;

    US Military Officers Pressuring Troops To Convert To Christianity

    Want me to show you more examples of 'tolerance' of those who you love, those who you support ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 12:57 #
  20. Haris Bhai

    Choro es be-painde ke lotay ko. In hi ke bare mein kaha gia hai keh

    Rank hatred in their mouths, and what they conceal in their hearts is far worse.

    FJ

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 13:01 #

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