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  1. latentry
    Member

    Is bombing people in mosques HALAL in Islam? And is this how you going to convert whole world to Islam?

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 17:57 #

  2. mulla1
    blocked

    according to wahabi school of thought you can kill someone even in salat!

    a lot of fatwa on this from wahabiya.....search the net in arabic

    Mulla!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 18:00 #

  3. CHAMKANI_KHAN
    Member

    who r wahabis and what is wahabism? clear it first.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:22 #

  4. mulla1
    blocked

    simple answer :

    those who hate their muslim brothers just cause they follow traditional ways and do not belive in arabic ulema and do not recite darood while standing....

    those who call anyone with less knowledge a kafir and have zero tolerance for technology....

    and belive in re assessment of deen by a french agent called abdul wahab najdi , decendent of zul khuwesra tamimi...currently deobandi type and jamat e islami is part of this nexus along with taliban of afganistan and egyptians...

    Mulla!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:26 #

  5. netengr
    blocked

    all this fire by Political mullas

    what i believe that islam is spritual based on faith,rituals etc and there is no politics in Islam

    *The center of Muslim community is the "masjid" and discussing politics and worldly affairs in the masjid is prohibited .

    Prophet did not assign any "khalifa" during his life just because it is up to public and worldly affair

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:34 #

  6. KHAN_Sahib
    Member

    MULLA,
    Brelvi, DEOBANDI,SUNNI AND SHIA .........ALL of them consider each other less of a muslim or KAFFIR .. Let me inform all of you... None of them will go to Jannah cuz anyone who makes 2 muslim fight will go to NAAR!
    There is no such thing as devbandi,bralvi,wahabi,sulfi in ISLAM! Muhammad PBUH was not devbandi,bralvi,wahabi,sulfi but just MUSLIM and all he taught was ISLAM and QURAN!

    SO any one who thnks that they r the gud or rite muslim and rest are Kafir are mistaken and on their way to Hell!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:37 #

  7. KHAN_Sahib
    Member

    *The center of Muslim community is the "masjid" and discussing politics and worldly affairs in the masjid is prohibited .

    What is your source of information???????
    Quran???
    Hadees???

    Please Quote!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:38 #

  8. netengr
    blocked

    @Khan Sab

    I have read many times in Adaab-e-masjid and it is agree by all and there are several ahadess mentioned in that ,I will check the source

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:40 #

  9. KHAN_Sahib
    Member

    It will be interesting to know about these source. I shall wait... You can perhaps shut all Jaamati activities if you did find one hadees..

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:45 #

  10. netengr
    blocked

    @Khan Sb

    bro here are some info ,Actually we got all the religous information from them and they taught us not to discuss worldly affairs in the masjid and what I know masjid is the only center of Muslim community .

    http://www.islameasy.org/pdf/MasjidAdaab.pdf

    Mufti-e-Azam Hadhrat Maulana Muhammad Shafi’ Usmani (Rahimullah) writes the following chapter in his Tafseer “Maa’riful Qur’an”:

    Scholars have named fifteen items as etiquettes of the mosques. They are:

    1. On entering the mosque one should greet the people already sitting there, with salam and if there is no one then say ‘Assalamu ‘Alayna Wa ‘Ala Ibadallahi-Saliheen’ (but this is required when those present in the mosque are not offering their extra prayer or reciting Qur’an. If they are busy in any of these acts, then he should not greet them.)
    2. After getting in the mosque one should offer two Rak’ats as tahiyyah tul-masjid. (This is required at a time when offering prayers is not prohibited, that is the time of sun rise, sun set or when sun is directly overhead.)
    3. Should not carry out any transactions of sale or purchase in the mosque.
    4. Should not carry any weapons in the mosque.
    5. Should not make an announcement for the search for any of his lost items.
    6. Should not raise his voice in the mosque.
    7. Should not discuss worldly affairs in the mosque.
    8. Should not quarrel with any one in the mosque.
    9. Should not try to force his way into a row where there is no room.
    10. Should not cross over in front of someone offering prayer.
    11. Should avoid spitting or blowing of nose in the mosque.
    12. Should not crackle fingers in the mosque.
    13. Should not play with any part of the body.
    14. Should keep clean of any filth, and should not take a baby or an insane along in the mosque.
    15. Should keep busy in remembrance of Allah abundantly.

    After listing these fifteen etiquettes Qurtubi has remarked that whoever has fulfilled these requirements has done justice with the mosque, and it has become a place of charm and security for him.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:49 #

  11. CHAMKANI_KHAN
    Member

    this is what wahaibs are :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:49 #

  12. chechen
    Member

    The term "wahabi" was coined by British colonialists to drive a wedge between Muslims as part of their divide and rule strategy. There was a reformer in hijaz named Mohammad Abdul Wahab- May Allah have mercy on his soul who tried to cleanse the unislamic customs that had permeated the Muslims during Ottoman Khlafa. Remember the Turks loved Islam more than they understood it. Anyway that reformation of Mohammad Abdul Wahab had wide ranging appeal in Indian sub-continent as bulk of masses were engaged in grave worship and other innovations. The British tricked the Muslims and tried to drive a wedge by calling it "wahabi" teachings. British always use first name in calling people but could not ridicule the name of Mohammad SAS and hence used his last name Wahab and hence Wahabi. The naive Muslims still do not know that Wahab is name of Allah SBT and by ridiculing so called "wahabi" they are insulting Allah SBT.

    Masjid is nucleous of any Islamic community. Prophet SAS was religious as well as political and military leader and Masjid was his base. All major decisions facing the Ummah were discussed and implemented in the masjid. It is not Chritianity to have Sunday worship dedicating one day few hours a week for "prayers". Masjid is 365x24 base of operations for any Muslim community.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:52 #

  13. CHAMKANI_KHAN
    Member

    it is in hadees that there will be 73 fiqas in muslims in the end. all will be saying that he is 'right' but only one will be 'right'.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:55 #

  14. mulla1
    blocked

    you are wrong brother, your knowledge of Islamic hadees is not valid, the hadees says "ummah" not muslims, and you should know that non muslims are also ummati of rasool who yet have to utter the pledge creed of la illa ha ......

    including them 73.......

    Mulla!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 20:58 #

  15. CHAMKANI_KHAN
    Member

    today ummah of Prophet SAW are muslim.....all the muslim are the ummah of Prophet SAW.so if u say ummah of Prophet that means muslim not jews or christian.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Jun 2009 21:07 #

  16. Migel9
    Member

    Is bombing people in mosques HALAL in Christianity or zionism Imam abu hinifa in iraq? And is this how you going to convert whole world to Hindism zionism christianity? latentry is treason in your blood?? U p=ssy

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 5:24 #

  17. latentry
    Member

    Migel9

    You are a Grade A WAN**R

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 11:31 #

  18. skyfacts
    Blocked

    The conclusion may be of this thread is that UMMA are only muslims.
    People involving in grave worshiping and urse and malangi culture and things like that are bralvis.People having enemity with sahaba are shia and people not involved in grave worshiping and doind jihad against ANGRAIZ every where and also against the FRIENDS of ANGRAIZ and than having zero tolerence for these, are WAHABI.

    BUT DIVISION MAY LEAD US TO CIVILE WAR IN PAKISTAN.THIS IS MESSAGE OF THE DAY.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 11:33 #

  19. IJay
    member

    Every time i see on this forum people are relating Islam with ACT OF WARS AND WARFARE.I failed to under this approach

    Yes of course Calling "Suicide Bomber" as Muslims and criticizing Islam even some of them on this forum are so special that criticize Muslims for not condemning act of Muslims.

    My friend In war there is no religion,no rules as there is very famous quote "every thing s fair in love and war" How can you even imagine that they will follow any rule.There is no Humanity in war only killings destruction and brutalities.

    I never see any body on this forum who said CHRISTIAN DRONE fired missile on Muslim?

    Muslim Army Tank destroyed home in swat.

    Muslim ah-64 Apache fired missiles on fleeing refugees?

    I never see any body said 500000 iraqi people killed by Christians army.

    the biggest crime our own government committed every time
    there is suicide bomb attack they cry "what kind of Islam is this? islam don't allow killing of civilians? killing one
    innocent is like killing whole mankind"

    Excuse Me! yes you are right its Islam who said this but
    in war you don't follow religion the only goal is it hurt you enemy badly.

    Suicide bomb (drone)attacks of Taliban,ah-64 and t-62 tank of Pakistan firing shells or drones attack of America all are
    acts of war.In war innocent do killed because missile ,bullet or bomb never ask who is civilian or who is not there aim is to eliminate its target and inflict heavy damage.It does not matter its a mosque or a church objective must be achieved.There is no place of emotions in war.

    This is the reason i never condemn drone attacks,pak forces brutalities or Taliban bomb attacks.I don't condemn act of war

    " I CONDEMN WAR" Responsible for all Killing and sufferings!

    MY SLOGAN:

    "SAY NO TO WAR"

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 11:49 #

  20. Potohari
    Blocked

    IJay are you a Pakistan?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 11:52 #

  21. Potohari
    Blocked

    Ijay are you a Pakistani national?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 11:52 #

  22. skyfacts
    Blocked

    IJAY

    you are right keep it up.We are no more ready to hide american friendship behind the slogan,WE ARE SAVING PAKISTAN.
    we are no more that much stupid.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:04 #

  23. Potohari
    Blocked

    Is IJay a Pakistani? Does he represent the intrest of ordinary Pakistanis. Whatever he is saying is alqaeda arguments, same old rantings. I am not sure if he is a Pakistani. I read statements as Aljaria etc, who the hell cares about Aljaria and Alqaeda, these guys are misled if they are of Pakistani origin otherwise they are enemies of Pakistan.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:07 #

  24. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Pakistaniyat ka thaika

    who is the owner of this so-called (thaika Of Pakistaniyat.)

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:12 #

  25. Potohari
    Blocked

    no your dad for sure.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:13 #

  26. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Low thinking always............expected.............

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:15 #

  27. Potohari
    Blocked

    We Pakistanis will support the spirit of Pakistan, it's culture of tolerance, it's beauty of simplicity and love. These gawd damn foriegners have their agendas of hatered which they spread online. For us Pakitsan zinda bad, painda bad. I think if they try to spread their vemon to ordinary Pakistanis in streets of Pindi, Lahore, Peshawar or Karachi they will be kicked by us. Ordinary Pakistanis are sick of terrorism, once militant terrorism is subsided, I will ask these talking terrorists, if they dare to spread hatered to layman Pakistanis in the street.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:19 #

  28. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Pakistan have blood from a wide range people of pakistan.And these pakistanis are not ready to be made stupid just like they were been made at the time of separation,PAKISTAN KA MATLAB KIA LAILAHA ILLALAH.

    Every one want this slogan of pakistan to be implemented fully rather than having MASTERS, LICKERS OF THE BOOTS AND SUCH PIMPS.

    Every one has got his own perception and no one is allowed to be THE SOLE THEAKIDAR OF PAKISTANIYAT.
    Different stake holders must be satisfied to make pakistan a peaceful country....

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:26 #

  29. skyfacts
    Blocked

    frauds with bholi bhali awaam.Behind different SLOGANS.

    nahi chlain gain.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:28 #

  30. IJay
    member

    Is IJay a Pakistani? Does he represent the intrest of ordinary Pakistanis. Whatever he is saying is alqaeda arguments, same old rantings. I am not sure if he is a Pakistani. I read statements as Aljaria etc, who the hell cares about Aljaria and Alqaeda, these guys are misled if they are of Pakistani origin otherwise they are enemies of Pakistan.

    if iam alqaeeda supporter then why dont i have no objection on drone attacks carried out to kill alqaeeda leadership. well done pothori
    i support no one i don't want to be a part of this war!!!

    i dont want war......

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:47 #

  31. netengr
    blocked

    This is alqaida Agenda implimented in Pakistan the same way as it was in Algeria .Same bomblast same butchery style making pakistan an algeria

    Question :

    why all the anti US groups are in peace ??

    Why there is no Jamaati Islami leader killed in NWFP by taliban ,why only ANP workers are being targeted ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:51 #

  32. IJay
    member

    why MQM never been targeted by taliban?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:53 #

  33. Potohari
    Blocked

    Are you a Pakistani IJay? if not why you are so intrested in this forum? Please enlighten us with that.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:54 #

  34. IJay
    member

    the biggest crime our own government committed every time
    there is suicide bomb attack they cry "what kind of Islam is this? islam don't allow killing of civilians? killing one
    innocent is like killing whole mankind"

    ye dekh andhay!

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:56 #

  35. Potohari
    Blocked

    O stupid are you a Pakistani, can't you read my question? excuse my language folks, here we are dealing with an agent.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 12:58 #

  36. Justapakistani
    Member

    Potohari wrote
    "Are you a Pakistani IJay? if not why you are so intrested in this forum? Please enlighten us with that. "

    This is a new info me ;)

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:00 #

  37. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Are you Pakistani.............???

    New tactic to force idea on some one ,based ,on the PAKISTAN KA THAIKIDAR.

    every one knows ijay is pakistani.Who is having doubts???

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:04 #

  38. netengr
    blocked

    @IJAY

    accoding to Qazi that Talibans are USA agent ,If they are USA agent then they should damage anti USA gropus such as Jamaat Islami ,but they are targeting ANP ..why ??

    MQM is pro USA why they do not target them ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:06 #

  39. skyfacts
    Blocked

    New TACTICS ARE intruduced in this forum......

    ARE YOU PAKISTANI.....??

    ijay is from intarktika.......??lols

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:06 #

  40. skyfacts
    Blocked

    netengr

    aap ko ye game samajhny me thora time lagy ga piyary........

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:08 #

  41. Potohari
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    skyfacts, I doubt your credentials as a real Pakistani, as well I am sorry. Typing few words in urdu or hindi doesn't make you a layman Pakistani. It is wonderful that most Taliban suporters online don't live in Pakistan, or aren't Pakistanis at all. I can call myself a real Pakistan, as I worked in a brick factory in my childhood and went to european universities recently. I know what real Pakistanis want and that is simple, peace, progress and improvements in living standards. I may support current status qou in Pakistan as it is better than butchery which Talibans are trying to impose on our culture of humanism. No Pakistani Pathan can ever tell me that Pathans used to behead people before the emergence of Talibans as it will be a fib.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:09 #

  42. skyfacts
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    And you may accept american dollars and culture and every thing but you love peace.IS that you want to say than say it open to all that i love life at the cost of every thing.
    Even at the cost of complete slavery like japan recieving their teen agers raped by the americans weekly.

    Is that you want to say.But millions of pakistani is on the way to rise against this slavery mentality.Just be their with your arguments and all we here at the difference of arguments .Dont try force others of this slave philosiphy.

    I DONT NEED ANY CERTIFICATE OF BIENG A PAKISTANI,FROM ANY THAIKIDAR OF PAKISTANIYAT.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:16 #

  43. skyfacts
    Blocked

    and let me tell you about your culture,of gang rapes women every week by any MNA MPA favoured people,killing his family and cutting their throats just for the sake of earning not much enogh,to make a women walking in the streets naked by any GHUNDA,killing and than mixing them in acid ,of more than 100 childes after having sex with,acid attacks to the girls refusing marriage.
    Do you want this culture to save it and is very good to survive,cultures and situation like this in any country may never be given much time to survive its natures decision that every sayatem against humanity will be ended when it at peak.......

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:23 #

  44. semirza
    Moderator

    @Potohari
    You certainly speak from your heart, like a patriot. I highly regard your honest feelings towards Pakistan and Pakistanis.
    The question is 'Who are tabliban'? Like you said 'no beheadings' before the emergence of Talibans is true to the core. But if the current taliban are not from the same mujahideen who fought against Russia, they who are they, from where they come, among who they live, from where they get there supplies? All resistance movements need funding. Who is funding them? To work out and find answers should be a collective effort on this forum and not blaming eachother and being detracked. We have to come to terms and accept facts with open minds.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:25 #

  45. skyfacts
    Blocked

    its not a difficult task to search for the fundings and things like that,to taliban.
    Every anti-american is funding and helping taliban.
    And Taliban govt in Afghanistan was ended by the blessings of Pakistanis.So recieved an enemy status from taliban.And they are also recieving help from Pakistan's hardcore enemies like ISRAEL AND INDIA.

    The question is to reverse your policies to anti-american.And pull out your self from this war.Rather than giving support to anti-taliban powers,to restore peace at our land.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:31 #

  46. Potohari
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    Intresting question semireza, who are Talibans? Talibans are brainwashed poor children of Afghan origin(mostly) who live in JUI seminaries which are run by donations and dollars from Middle East agencies. The literature they read is alien to most Pakistanis, as they follow salafi/wahabi books usually edited and printed overseas. Talibans while breeding in Pakistan are as alien to Pakistan and Pakistanis as Marsian are to westerners in idealogical terms.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:32 #

  47. Potohari
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    skyfact is struck with reality, your ranting is international medias understanding of Pakistan.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:40 #

  48. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Iran is working against US interests in Iraq and Afghanistan and its open support to shia Taliban in Afghanistan.So why pakistan could not support them in Afghanistan .OK if you are not going to support them .But is it not more unfair to go against your neibours to much.to offer your basis/supplie roots/drone attacks/inteligence share to americans to kill and destroy the people of afghanistan.??
    IRANI INQILABI GAURD SUPPORTED CAMMANDER WAS YESTERDAY CLAIMED TO HIT,BY AMERICANS....

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:40 #

  49. Potohari
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    Iran is a seperate country than Pakistan. Iran as a country have independent foreign policy and we Pakistanis don't have no say in that. Neither Iran should be allowed interfere in Pakistani affairs, which are contrary to Pakistani intrests.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:43 #

  50. skyfacts
    Blocked

    i dont have any excess to international media but studiying Islamic movements all over the world is my favourite topic.
    Come and fight with logics..............dont be personal it destroy the share of information............and be having AN Independent view about any movement,will work only biased thiking and opinions will lead to an unepected parameters.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jun 2009 13:44 #

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