Obviously I am no expert at making these kinds of policy, Nor I understand the ground realities as much as the people from that part of the world. It is easy to say then to implement or acting upon it. But one can offer an opinion on the issue.
We all know for sure that America will not stay in Afghanistan forever. But they will not leave until they are sure that Afghanistan does not go back to what it was pre 9/11. General McChrystal recently said that they can began withdrawing once the Afghan government is capable and strong enough to govern Afghanistan and ultimatly defeat the insurgency on its own. Eventhough coming from an American General, but this is not bad idea. We do need an stable government in Afghanistan. We Pakistanis shouldn't try to destabilize Afghanistan simply because we don't like Americans, nor should we support Afghan taliban. If we continue like this, then other countries would also do the same to us. Stable Afghanistan is in the interest of Pakistan.
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Afghanistan Solution
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Shock
MembersPosted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 2:42 # -
Shock
MembersU.S cannot stay in there forever. TThe economic cost will be too much. We don't have to ally ourselves with the U.S, but we can support the Afghan government.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 2:44 # -
sa74
MemberWe don't need afghans they need us.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 3:03 # -
Shock
MembersGeneral McChrystal's set milestones.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 3:15 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
IF we let Afghanistan go on its path, Taliban will come back to power. Which isn't something bad for Pakistan. It won't be bad for Afghanis' as well, since they are looking for war to stop, for peace, for justice in their land, after decades of devastation from continuous war.
It would only be bad for those who want to go to a nightclub. That is a luxury a minority of people won't be able to enjoy. Who cares about that ? NO ! one. Why ? Because majority of Afghan people have a long struggle ahead of them in rebuilding their nation. The ones who want to go to a nightclub aren't contributing in that aspect. Its a luxury Afghanis' can easily do without.
Secondly, about Afghanistan + Pakistan. I believe it is possible. It is MORE likely to happen then a minority within us would have us believe.
The benefits of UNITY with Afghanistan outweigh the negative remarks by a BIG margin.
However, this solution needs work by the people of the two Muslim nation states. The people of both the states need to be apprised of this notion. People need to be made aware of what the states are going to achieve by this move. There needs to be discussion on the subject again and again. When the majority of people in both nations accept it, the solution of UNITING Afghanistan + Pakistan should be started.
It is CRITICAL that the people of these two Muslim nation states know as well as understand the pros' and cons', the benefits of UNITY.
This UNITY will only be successful when the people of these two Muslim nations agree with this idea or at least the majority of them agree with it.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 8:41 # -
New Pakistan
Member@sa74 "We don't need afghans they need us."
Agreed 100% but with one exception -- we do need to have stable and secure Afghanistan as an ally. Right now India is doing some covert terrorism to keep Afghanistan unstable and cause security issues for Pakistan. This means we have to divert vital resources to defense of the border and tribal areas instead of using those resources for improving the electrical grid and building economic capacity. As long as we are forced to use all these resources for security on all borders, we are weaker internally. Once we can not have to worry about security of Afghanistan border and know that they are fellow ally to Pakistan, we will be better off.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 13:42 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Pakistan desperately needs Afghanistan. Pakistan can't remain stable untill and unless Afghanistan becomes and remains stable.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 14:10 # -
Afghanistan can become stable if we also stop interfering in its affairs. Acquisition of Afghanistan by Taliban on gunpoint will bring dreadful results to Pakistan. Terrorism by Taliban is evident to every one. No country can afford to let such beasts run a reign of terror on its people.
Thus, the solution to Afghanistan problem is that the Afghan government make itself capable and strong enough to have an effective control over the country and cripple the insurgency there.
Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2009 14:46 # -
M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
MemberUnion of Afgahnistan and Pakistan
By M. Akram Khan, Balida Town, Karachi, Pakistan.
The only solution to the present problem of instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan is in the Union of these two countries based on principles of Democracy and Federalism.
In history, Durani Empire was composed of all the areas in which today's Pakistan and Afghanistan are located, and during the Mughal Empire together they were a single country. In the initial period of the British Empire, they were also the same country.
Later, some forces that had vested interests kept a distance between these lands. Consequently, border areas between these two countries became hiding places for criminals of both countries, thieves of automobiles and other stolen goods. They are stored in this region. This large uncontrollable area is a base for many evils.
Here narcotics are grown; addiction is destroying the youth and humanity. Because the region is not developed and poverty is rampant, people are attracted to extremism and militancy.
Union of both countries will make the single government more responsible in stabilizing this region and in satisfying the nationalistic pride of its inhabitants. People will be able to serve humanity as other large nations of the world do. Otherwise, this region will always remain a nuisance for the world. It destroyed Soviet Union. It may also take down the western world, which will be a great blow to the development of Science and Technology, especially Medical science.
Advantages to the world:
Control of terrorism:
Instability in this region is causing great damage to humanity. Soldiers of many countries are sacrificing their lives just to eliminate terrorists from these countries. In the presence of a unified government, it will be easier to control terrorists.
Control of extremism:
As a unified nation composed of multiethnic groups such as the Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluchis, Pashtuns, Urdu speakers, Tajiks, Persians and Hazaras, and as a multisectarian society such as Sunni and Shiites, it will become impossible for any ethnic group or religious sect to find any future in extremism.
Stabilization of the region:
Although it is now that the problems of this region have gained attention, it has suffered from instability for a long time. People here are finding no hope, no future for themselves, partly because of interference from foreign countries, such as the British Empire, Soviet Union, USA, China and India. When they were unified under the Durani Empire, the region was stable. The same was the case during the Mughal Empire.
There are three main groups in Asia, i.e. the Chinese, Hindus and Muslims. Chinese and Hindus are satisfied with their states of China and India. The Muslim population in Asia is greater than the Chinese and Hindus combined. However, having no comparable state of their own they experience the stress of inferiority. That element too is causing instability and irritation amongst common Muslims. By creating a unified state of Pakistan and Afghanistan, a sense of satisfaction, pride and respect of having a national state will be achieved. That might lead to normalization of relations with the rest of the world and stability.
Solution to economic problems
At present, both countries are burdens on others, and pose barriers in exploring the resources of Central Asia by the world. After stabilization, it will be useful not only for Central Asia and for the World, but also for the new unified nation itself.
Advantages to Pakistan:
It was the vision of Quaid-e-Azam, the Founder of Pakistan, to unify the regions of West Pakistan, Afghanistan, East Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia. That probably needs time. It took many centuries for Europeans to realize that they shared a common goal.
• By unification with Afghanistan, areas, which are included in Pakistan, will stabilize, and migration of people from disturbed areas will stop.
• Smuggling of weapons across the borders will end, and Law and Order will be established.
• Similarly, illicit drug trade will be minimized.
• Whole areas of Pukhtoons (Pashtuns) speaking population will unify, and that will help the development of culture and language of that group which is now divided in two nations.
• Expenses for Security measures on the borders will be minimal. The resultant balance can be used for the welfare of people.
• Interference of other nations in this region will subside.
• Due to unique historical importance for Buddhists and Hindus, tourism industry will flourish and business activity in the region will increase.
Advantages to Afghanistan:
• Through unification, Afghanistan will cease to be a land locked country. The union will promote freedom of people of Afghanistan to travel and engage in economic activity,
• Extremism and terrorism will come to and end, as the people will become more engaged and involved in adjusting themselves in the new union. Utilization of raw products of Afghanistan will increase.
• Security and military expenses will minimize.
• Doors to Pakistan will open to Afghanis who look for jobs in Pakistan.
• Shortage of food products in Afghanistan will decrease and it will increase the utilization of raw products of Afghanistan.
• Linking Central Asia via Afghanistan to the rest of the world will generate extraordinary development.
Based on above observations, suggestions and predictions, it is clear that unification of Pakistan and Afghanistan will be fruitful for everyone in the region and for the world at large.
Mr. M. Akram Khan Niazi can be reached at akrumniazi@hotmail.comPosted 2 years ago on 14 Dec 2009 12:46 # -
Shock
Members@M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
Gee, I wonder what the hell is Canada doing? Why haven't Canada joined America. I would like to see union of Pakistanis within Pakistan, as people are more interested abou the unity of Pakistan itself. No need to unite Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Posted 2 years ago on 15 Dec 2009 0:21 # -
Wahid Doyum
MemberJamaatis/ISI should stop sending mercenaries to kill Afghans every few months. Poor Afghans have suffered enough, stop using them for your own gains. We have been doing this with the lives of Afghans since the 80s.
Posted 2 years ago on 15 Dec 2009 4:09 #
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