ALLAH HOO ALLLAH HOO..Khan Oriel Chehen..

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ALLAH HOO ALLLAH HOO..Khan Oriel Chehen..

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Migel9
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Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:18 #
izbaek
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i liked the arabic music :)

anyway i don't believe in religious myths .

why does a god has to prove something to prove he exists ??

anyway watch this :

this is better for superstitious people :

i especially like this video :

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:23 #
Migel9
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You have ears??yet you cant hear..lost soul..go away..

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:26 #
semirza
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@Migel9
The title itself is okya except its in capitals. It would be more nice if capitals be used where necessary not the whole words.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:28 #
Migel9
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OK Rezamandee did you liked the video?Mr critical??

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:44 #
shikra
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To be honest I am impressed by this video. It is a very good presentation.
I enjoyed its music composition and delivery of the words.
Still this video could not help to trigger the feelings of love for fanatic Mulla.
It is Mullah and not Allah under discussion.
Is there any discovery about the Word 'Khilafat' anywhere in the sky or over a fruit?
I would love to watch.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:47 #
netengr
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Music is Haram and saying Allah ho in music is more bad

These Zionist are injecting music and trying to make new religion.
specially the fan of Satan Jackson should repent 100 times

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:52 #
Migel9
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But you did like FANATIC MULLAH BUSH AND HIS GANG OF JEWISH HINDU ZIONIST WAR LORDS RAPING YOUNG BIYS IN IRAQ S ABU GHAREEB??DR AFIA??WOULD JESUS OF AMERICA ALLOW THIS?? YOU SEEM TO ASSOCIATE EVERY GUY WITH A BEARD A MULLAH??VERY FEW MULLAHS WITH THE INTELLECT ARE LEFT.MULLAH AS IN DIESEL FAZLUH THE IDIOT??HE IS A FRAUD.BUT U DO LIKE THE GERMAN NAZI POPE??CHRISTIAN MULLAH??RIGHT?? WHO CALLED OUR RELIGION
NAMES??THE POPE SMOKES DOPE I SAY..

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:54 #
sasherwani
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Music isn't haram..

(I just wanted to start a never-ending argument lol!)

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:55 #
semirza
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What about na'ats relayed through TV where some musical instruments are also used? And dont seek 'refuge' in a 'duff' a traditional Arabic musical instrument as all such instruments are meant to create 'melody' thats also called music, and certainly not 'din'-thats noise.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:55 #
izbaek
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logically i support migel

if all muslims want to follow proper framework of islam

you all should have a code of conduct in every essence of life

as it was said in khuda ke liye:

islam mein music sharab se bi jyada haram hai.

@smigel
i loved that word hindu zionists :) :he he he

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 18:59 #
chechen
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The miracles of Allah are everywhere. No doubt. But the music and the quotes "Allahu" are hallmark of sufi crackpots aka whirling dervishes. They tend to leave the miracles and concentrate of music and lead the Muslims to esape from reality. And immerse them in sleep and lethargy.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:13 #
Migel9
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Chechen The whole young people of islamic lands are in a deep comatose SLEEEEEPP PERIOD..Muslims with 15 wifes one hindu one pakistani one arab one shia on indian will not fight the invaders THE CHRISTIAN RAPIST ARMIES.Lethargy of hindutani movies..In which all hinddus are white..lol

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:18 #
netengr
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Dr Afia is the actress of Hollywood as other drama you believe such as 9/11

Music is HAram

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:22 #
netengr
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@migel

The Narration of al-Bukhaaree:
The Prophet peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him said : "There will be [at some future time] people from my Ummah who will seek to make lawful fornication, the wearing of silk, wine drinking and the use of musical instruments [ma'aazif]. Some people will stay at the side of the mountain and when their shepherd comes in the evening to ask them for his needs, they will say : 'Return to us tomorrow'. Then Allaah will destroy them during the night by causing the mountain to fall upon them, while He changes others into apes and swine. They will remain in such a state until the Day of Resurrection." al-Jowhari, the author of the ancient dictionary 'as-Sihaah', asserts that ma'aazif signifies musical instruments, al-'aazif indicates one who sings, and the 'azf of the wind is its voice..

Az-Zabeedi also says that ma'aazif are instruments of leisure which are drummed upon or played, like the loot ('ood) , the drum (tanboor), the small hand drum (daff) or other such musical objects.

Ibn Hajar in Fathul-Baaree relates that 'azf is also used to describe singing (ghinaa).

This authentic hadeeth clearly establishes the prohibition of music and singing and this in itself is sufficient for the one who really wishes to see the Truth of the affair. However there are other authentic narrations on the subject that we quote below.

The Narration of Ibn Maajah :
The Messenger of Allaah peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him said : "A people of my Ummah will drink wine, calling it by other than its real name. Merriment will be made for them through the playing of musical instruments and the singing of female singers. Allaah will cleave the earth under them and turn others into apes and swine."
This hadeeth has also been narrated by al-Bayhaaqi and ibn Asaakir, and has been authenticated by the renowned scholar of hadeeth Ibn al-Qayyim.

Narrations of Ahmed bin Hanbal :
The Messenger of Allaah peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him said : "Verily Allaah prohibited wine, gambling and al-koobah; and every intoxicant is prohibited." Sufyan said : " I asked the narrator, Ali bin Badheemah, ' What is al-Koobah?' He answered, 'It is the drum'."

The Messenger of Allaah peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him said : "Verily Allaah has prohibited for my Ummah wine, gambling, a drink distilled from corn, the drum and the lute; while He supplemented me with another Prayer, the witr"

The Narration of Haakim and Others :
That the Messenger of Allaah peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him said : "Verily I did not prohibit weeping [per se], but rather I forbade two voices [sowtayn] which are imbecilic [ahmaq] and sinfully shameless [faajir]: one a voice [singing] to the accompaniment of musical amusement [lahw] and Satan's [wind] instruments; the other, a voice [wailing] due to some calamity, accompanied by striking of the face and tearing of garments. But this [weeping off mine] stems from compassion, and whosoever does not show compassion will not receive it."
This hadeeth is graded Hasan, and has been strengthened by other narrations.

The Narration of Abu Bakr ash-Shaafi'ee : Anas bin Maalik may Allaah be pleased with him related from the Prophet peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him that "two cursed sounds are that of the [wind] instrument [mizmaar] played on the occasion of joy and grace, and woeful wailing upon the occurrence of adversity."

These narrations should prove sufficient to show the illegality of music and singing to musical accompaniment to the one "has a heart or gives ear while he is heedful." [Surah Qaf Verse 37].

From the statements of the Companions may Allaah be pleased with them :
The Sahaabah may Allaah be pleased with them were the best people after the Messenger of Allaah peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him, and best understood the deen of Islaam as they understood it directly from the Messenger peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him. The ijmaa' (consensus) of the Sahaabah may Allaah be pleased with them is therefore binding upon the Muslim Ummah, as is the complete consensus of any generation of scholars on a certain religious issue.

The Companions may Allaah be pleased with them unanimously agreed upon the prohibition of music and song but allowed particular exceptions specified by the authentic sunnah.

In the preceding sections we have already quoted some of the Sahaabah such as Ibn Masood and Ibn Abbaas may Allaah be pleased with them. This was also the view of the Four Rightly Guided Khulafaa and the fuqahaa from amongst the Sahaabah may Allaah be pleased with them.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:23 #
netengr
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just being anti US is not islam

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:26 #
Migel9
Member

Just being anti Pakistan is not islam.**** goaway..

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:30 #
sasherwani
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Netenger, sorry but nothing among what you have pasted clearly says "MUSIC IS HARAAM"... atleast not the Quran..

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:30 #
netengr
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Islam is global

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:30 #
Migel9
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ADM, Rezamandee get this subhuman garbage out of my area, or I will **** slap him like a two dollar hoe.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:32 #
netengr
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Q: Is music haraam? Some people are propagating the view that it is not Haraam. Many Islamic songs are sung with the playing of the duff. Is it permissible to listen to them? Also, some Islamic songs are recorded with the zikr of “Allah” played in the background. It sounds very much like drums are being played. However, it is a group of people who are saying “Allah” in unison. Is there any problem in listening to this?

A: Hazrath Anas (R.A.) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “There will certainly be people from my Ummah who will attempt to legalize fornication, the wearing of silk (for males), the consuming of wine and the use of musical instruments” (Al-Jaamius Sagheer - Pg. 139). Indeed this prophesy of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is glaring before us. Despite the clear prohibition of the use of musical instruments, great efforts are being made to “legalize” their use. While some people wish to declare all music permissible, others are opening the door slowly by declaring that only the use of the “duff” is permissible. Thus it is necessary to examine the reality of these claims in the light of the Qur’an and Sunnah.

In Surah Luqman Allah Ta’ala declares:

“And among the people are those who purchase idle talk in order to mislead others from the path of Allah in ignorance.”

Hazrath Abdullah bin Masood (R.A.) states emphatically that this verse was revealed regarding singing and musical instruments. The same has been reported from Hazrath Abdullah bin Abbas (R.A.) and Hazrath Jaabir (R.A.) (Tafseer Qurtubi). Thus when these illustrious students of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), who witnessed the revelation of the aayaat (verses) of the Qur’an are clear that this verse prohibits music and musical instruments, the “view” of any twentieth century “scholar” to the contrary holds no weight.

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Various Ahadith also clearly prohibit music and the use of musical instruments. Hazrath Abdullah bin Umar (R.A.) reports that once Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) heard the sound of the flute of a shepherd. He immediately placed his fingers into his ears (to block out the sound) (Musnad Ahmad). How tragic it is that our beloved Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) blocks his ears to the sound of music but his Ummah opens their ears wide to the same sounds. In another narration Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is reported to have said: “ Verily Allah Ta’ala has sent me as a guidance and as a mercy to the Believers and He has commanded me to destroy musical instruments” (Musnad Ahmad).

DUFF

As for the duff, it is also a musical instrument and therefore it will primarily be included in the above prohibition. However, some concession was given for the use of the duff on the occasion of a Nikah. The Sahaaba (R.A.), who were the direct students of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) understood the commands of the Qur’an and Hadith far better than we can ever hope to understand. It is reported regarding Hazrath Umar (R.A.) that if he heard the sound of a duff he would immediately send somebody to investigate. If it was found to be the occasion of a Walima, he would not do anything. Otherwise he would go for his whip (i.e. he would forcefully stop the playing of the duff) (Fathul Qadeer - Vol. 6, Pg. 389).

EXTRACTING LAWS

Nevertheless, to extract the laws of Shariah directly from the Qur’an and Sunnah is possible only for one who is a mujtahid [in the calibre of the four great Imaams viz. Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), Imaam Malik (R.A.), Imaam Shaafi (R.A.) and Imaam Ahmad bin Hambal (R.A.)]. Together with an expert in-depth knowledge of the Qur’an and hundreds of thousands of Ahadith, they had also mastered all the numerous sciences pertaining to the Qur’an and Sunnah.

According to the Zaahirur Riwayah (the most authentic narrations) of the Hanafi school of thought, the use of the duff is completely disallowed. Latter day scholars who have attributed a restricted permissibility to the Hanafi school have erred. This complete disallowal is based on the Juristic principle of “saddan lil baab” i.e. to restrict an act that would invariably lead to impermissible actions.

The Shafi’ee Ulama have permitted the use of the duff only on the occasion of a walima subject to several conditions. Allamah Ibn Hajar Makki, Shafi’ee has detailed the various conditions, among which is that the duff should not be beaten in a manner that produces a musical sound, but rather just a simple beating which does not produce any tune or melody. Only the palms may be used to beat the duff and not the fingers. It should also be beaten only for a short while. Having stated this he says that “in our era it is makrooh to beat the duff” (since people cannot fulfil the stringent conditions).

Therefore in the light of the above one should not listen to such nazams which are accompanied by the playing of the duff.

BACKGROUND ZIKR

As for the “background zikr,” this should be considered very carefully. What is the purpose of having people say “Allah” in unison in the background? Is it for the purpose of zikr itself? If yes, then why in the background? If the purpose is to create a background effect to make the nazam more entertaining, in the manner that background music is used, this is an extremely dangerous thing. It is abuse of the name of Allah Ta’ala. The name of Allah Ta’ala is not for the purpose of entertainment. If it has been deliberately made to resemble the beating of drums, it will be even more serious and even dangerous for one’s Imaan. One should totally refrain from listening to such nazams.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:33 #
netengr
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Qazi hussain is the jewish character not a reality ,Qazi hussain is a Hollywood actor all jamaat islami is the Darama of Zionist ..nothing is real ....

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:34 #
chechen
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Drama or no drama, the Guantanamo and other prisons are full with innocents and Afia's case is highlighted by Yvonne who visited Gauntanamo and is making a documentary of Afia, prisoner number 650. She is as real as netengr. But she is Muslimah, tortured and imprisoned by war criminals unlike you and me living in luxuries. Her case reminds me of the Ummahat Al Mumineen.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 19:35 #
netengr
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She was a alqaida member .people do not accept this

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:14 #
chechen
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so what

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:15 #
netengr
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then it is another story ,If you ask any pakistani who do not even belive that she was a memeber of Alqaida .good or bad is another story .

Today I met one jamaati and he started his sermon and he said all the suicide bombing in pakistan are by USA and the girl insident of sawat was a hollywood drama .

You may be the only one who accept but other pro talibanis are munafiq what is benefit they accept and the rest they call drama or propaganda

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:19 #
semirza
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@netengr
Are they listening to you. If not than change you approach, a different one, the ones they are more easy with!

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:37 #
mulla1
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net:

I need some advice, can you contact me on private email...

its in regards to blogging....

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:52 #
netengr
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ok boss

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 20:53 #
silkccut
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If Music was Haraam in Islam, it would not have been given to Prophet David as a miracle along with molding of iron. ;)

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 21:03 #
chechen
Member

Prophet Davis had Talmud as scipture. It was another form of shariah for his nation and for his times. Then came Jesus AS and finally it was Prophet SAS and last code of Shariah. What may be allowed in David's era is not necessarily the case with the Shariah today that will reamin until doomsday.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 21:07 #
misalligned
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netengr

it is really hard for me to use polite words for you. Who ******** told you that she is al-qaida member and even if she is a member, does she deserves this punishment? ****** like you have made us a joke.

You are always beating JI, though they are **** but 1000 times better than people like you.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 22:07 #
Migel9
Member

I know her history this fraud keep accusing her with out any evidence keeps quoting quran and all the idiotic moronic comments, for an indian fraud this ganga din is fooling no one.Net we know who ju are Ok.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 22:11 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

Why a simple thread ends in a hate thread??

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 22:21 #
misalligned
Member

because there are people who are sponsored to spread hate at this forum. ask them any proof behind their arguments, such baseless accusations initiate hatred. No one feels disturbed if you accuse someone with proofs.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 22:28 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

I agree in principle but then just ignore them. Just by stooping to their level makes u down to their level too.. I have seen it, experienced it and now have learnt it too.

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Aug 2009 22:42 #
talalkhan
Member

There is an auyhentic Hadith that an Egyptisn female singer arrived and sang and Holy prophet said "Look, Aisha, there is so much SOZ in her voice.''.
When the prophet reched Madina, The women surrounded him and sang "Nahno Binat e Tariq' and Prophet has arrived, Prophet has arrived.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Aug 2009 9:13 #