"People who have no hold over their process of thinking are likely to be ruined by liberty of thought. If thought is immature, liberty of thought becomes a method of converting men into animals" - Iqbal
It has, almost, become a fashion, habit and tradition to blame America for most of the problems faced by the Muslim world.
To make a rational judgment and conclusion one must also examine the validity of such charges after reading the American Response to such criticism and condemnation.
(This poem was presented at Friends Literary Forum in Washington, last year.)
Salam
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wow, a bengali office secretary can type good urdu, i guess she went to urdu school in bangladesh :)
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@javedsheikh: What's your point ?
Would you spare me if;
(1) I was a powerful criminal, who had murdered many of your family, your loved ones, your relatives, others from your nation, without feeling any kind of remorse, guilt, just because your secretary can write in urdu ?
(2) I had my thugs standing in your home, ravaging yours as well as homes of your loved ones, your relatives, others from your nation, without feeling any kind of remorse, guilt ?
(3) I had my thugs standing on your land, sucking the natural resources from your land for my good, depriving you of everything, without feeling any kind of remorse, guilt, ?
(4) I carried out oppression over you, your loved ones, your relatives, others from your nation, without feeling any kind of remorse, guilt ?
Javed Sheikh sb. have you gone nuts ?
""wow, a bengali office secretary can type good urdu, i guess she went to urdu school in bangladesh :)""
or I guess she belongs to the family of strandid Pakistanis whom still consider themselves as Pakistani but Pakistani dont want to accept them.....
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@javedsheikh: You'r telling us to think good of those who have their soldiers standing on our land, implementing their hegemony over us ?
You are telling us to think good of those who disintegrated Muslim UMMAH in 1924 ?
Tell America and its allies to pay for each and every Muslim's life, who they murdered mercilessly. Tell them to remove their armies from our land. After all of that is done, we will think it over.
Javed Sheikh sb. are you out of your mind ?
I want you to prove to me that you haven't gone crazy.
Salam
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Yahya,
My dear we are referring to a bengali girl who is weak at urdu, so I think that chance of a stranded family are quite remote.
Is it a question, objection or just a sarcastic observation?
(On 15 January 2009, I had no secretary. This poem was composed by myself.)
I would request, better to come up with some reasonable, literary and intellectual response, commensurate to your Scholarly Status.
Hate, hate and always hate is not a good attitude.
Have a nice day.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
I am appalled to even talk to you when I find you to be thinking of a Muslim's life as something 'trivial', something which can be wasted as per USA's will, something which can be destroyed without any reprisals in return.
NO! sir. I will never! allow for this. If I did, I would be committing treason with my own people. That is not possible for me.
There's nothing more gross, more ugly than injustice.
USA has engaged in destroying Pakistan since its creation.
Not that Pakistanis' haven't played a large part in it themselves, but USA has certainly taken significant steps in order to drown Pakistan many times.
USA promissed Pakistan a war-fleet in 1971, when Pakistan was at war with India. That fleet never reached as promised, to-date
USA started another drama when Pakistan bought F-16s.
Look at this recent drama of how USA is treating Pakistanis' at their airports.
I don't find any reason to think good of USA.
I wonder what makes you feel good ? Perhaps it is because you live there ? Your personal benefits come from USA.
Salam
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Well, in order for me to come up with some reasonable, literary or intellectual response commensurate to my scholarly status I have to open the links and read them which I don't feel like doing at the moment :)
Good day
Javed Sheikh Sahib
No doubt that those are the wonderful poems based on present time ground realities. But if some are not able to understand it or do not want to understand it then the fault is theirs own.
"Javed Sheikh sb. have you gone nuts?"
"Javed Sheikh sb. are you out of your mind?"
"I want you to prove to me that you haven't gone crazy."
I feel proud for being awarded with such noble and wonderful remarks by most celebrated scholars at the forum.
I see a very bright future for Pakistan due to wise scholars like you.
Thanks you sir.
God bless you.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Even though I know it is sarcasm, I'll accept that as a compliment.
I! am a Muslim!. I am loyal to;
(1) ALLAH ALMIGHTY
(2) HIS last Messenger, Muhammad (SAW)
(3) HIS chosen DEEN for mankind i.e., Islam
(4) HIS chosen system of life i.e., 'Islami Nizam' (in urdu)
(5) Sahaba-e-Karam (Companions of Muhammad (SAW))
(6) Muslims
(7) Muslim UMMAH
(8) Those who are under protection of Muslims
For me, ALLAH ALMIGHTY is more significant than America.
NNL
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wow, a bengali office secretary can type good urdu, i guess she went to urdu school in bangladesh :) .
Man apart from it being the Quote of the Day.
I think the Poor girl/guy should also look into State Labor cos this would be clearly an overburden and misuse of capabilities on part of one employer.
Harassment maybe ?
Migel9
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Javed if the shoe fit americans must admit..I say..Evil in
This world is AMERICA AND HER SATANIC DEPUTIES..Look around what do you see??Death and destruction, so try not to be a pseudo intellectaul.
Brown slave must escape the yoke of Imperialism of Great satan america.We need to remove cancerous criminal blood sucking lunatics like zardari,altaf shareef, two inbreds of gujrat by force to save Pakistan.
latentry
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hariskhan
1st try to be loyal to yourself. God dont care about your loyalty
Migel9
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They are loyal to their master shivalingham.Lol
Cow need to be slaughter eliminate evil kalee maa..
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"mein ne kab tujh se kaha tha kerte phiro fitna fatoor"
Mr. JS, it thought you were from the school of thought that believed the afghan jihad to be fitna... didn't the U.S encourage and aid that???
"mein ne to chah tha ban jaye misali duniya"
yeah... that's why the U.S forged false evidence and invaded iraq, so that it becomes a 'misal' for other muslims.
"teri dherti mein chupa tail nikal kis ne"
haliburton, of course! remember di-ck checney? and bush? =D
"goray aur kalay kaheen dekhe kabhi aik huay"
surely not in the U.S. plz don't shut your eyes about the racism that exists there. and btw, yes, goray and kalay were one in the golden age of islam. goray and kalay married amongst each other, and that is why in the muslim africa, the complexion of many ppl is not as black as it used to be.
JS, when are you writing a poem to justify the british colonization of india? after all, they gave us railway system, organized army, ammunition, and above all, the Indian Act of 1935 (present day constitution of pakistan).
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ohhh... forgot this one...
"jazba-e-khidmat-e-insaan ko sambhala kis ne"
like abu-ghraib, gitmo, bagram, killa-jungi, and a lot more that we're not aware of, yet!
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@latentry: Don't give me your crap. Save! it for yourself.
AlHamdulillah, I know what I have to do.
Wahid Doyum
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"Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@latentry: Don't give me your crap. Save! it for yourself.
AlHamdulillah, I know what I have to do. "
What great words. Allah's name and slang words in one post. You must be proud.
For such, every thing is fair after taking Allah's name.
choosy
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US is a culprit ...
so we have to blame it in any case .
latentry
Member
hariskhan
Dont try to judge others Iman you are no God keep your pants inside your house
Choosy
Yeah, blame US, Europe, Arab countries, Turkey, India, Israel and all others. They all are culprits. Only we, who are dependent on others on almost every thing, are perfect and pious. What a wisdom, Masha-Allah. Chashm-e-baddur.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@latentry: Lead by example.
Salam
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Actually we are a colonized and slave nation and we can not just get independence through blaming the colonials. Of course they will try to control their colonies by any means necessary, so expect no good from them it is natural.
It is the job of people to mobilize support in favor of real independence. We have come this way before and will do this again, people got deceived after 1857, 1924, and 1947 but the struggle continues.
LalBichoo
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Sitting abroad for over 15 years and crying for 'slave nation' :)))
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@LalBichoo: You have one of the lowest credibility among members here. Please don't bother posting taunts. They are .. worthless.
LalBichoo
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hariskhan,
I don't need certification for my credibility from some **** Jamaatiis !
Check the thread..
The last few postings are just personal abuse/taunt/sarcasim. Good going Boys!
Mujaddid
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some members has privileges here ,They are allowed to abuse
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@KHAN_Sahib
"Good going Boys!"
more sarcasm? =D
j/k, bro! =) i agree with you!
It was actually Appreciation! ;-)
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