R u muslims ov Pakistan prepared 4 another american foolish attack??????
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Another American Attack??????
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Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 20:32 #
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Pakistan and America heading for a serious confrontation over Pak-Nukes
The original goal of the invasion of Afghanistan was not to drop bombs on mud-huts, or fight ghost-terrorists like Al-Qaeda, or to fight some imaginary heavily-armed Guerrilla Groups whom America needs 130,000 troops to contain. The truth is far from it, in fact that truth has been tainted to the extent that the lie has disguised itself as the truth to fool the rest of the world.
Many players are actively participating in the all-western power's attempt to destabilize Pakistan. There is every reason for this to be the objective, since all major western powers are heavily lobbied by Pro-Zionist Power Block that control a hefty chunk of the wealth that circulates in the western world. The power of the Pro-Zionist Block in the western world has been aptly demonstrated by the U.S Housing Market crash in 2008, the Sovereign Debt of Major European countries in 2011, the staggering Gold Appreciation which is currently at $1662/Troy Oz (£1016/Troy Oz), U.S Debt Ceiling fiasco (July 2011) and Credit Rating Firms sudden rise to prominence (2011).
The Pro-Zionist Block views Pakistan as the only credible threat to the existence to the State of Israel. This threat assessment seems a bit disconnected however, since Pakistan doesn't have any direct border with Israel, nor is Pakistan in the same region as Israel. So why is it, that Pakistan is viewed by the Pro-Zionist Block as the most deadly threat to Israel's existence and what is it that Israel has or would done/do to warrant any aggression from Pakistan. The answer is, nothing .... so far! Pakistan has no direct or indirect aggression toward Israel, however, there is something that Israel will do in the future which will provoke Pakistan.
It is not only Pakistan that Israel will provoke, but also the Islamic World at large.
The oldest of the Protocol's of the Elders of Zion, clearly stipulate that the Temple Mount be constructed. It also openly demarcates the area where the alleged Temple Mount used to be, before the time of Jesus the Messiah. The area in question, is one of the three most holiest sites of the Islamic World, i.e Masjid Al-Aqsa and the Dome of Rock. Israel has previously made botched attempts at somehow degrading the structural integrity of the two buildings in order to make them irreparable and that they may be either demolished or they collapse due to weak structural foundations, weakened by the Israelis themselves.
These attempts have met with strong opposition from the Islamic World and was also the flash-point of the Second Intifada.
If we assess the current geopolitical climate, trying to understand how the play runs through the regions and countries around the Holy Land. Then the first countries to be struck off the list as useless and of no threat to Israel are saudi Arabia, Jordan, as they are bought/bribed countries that are aligned to the west and hence non-confrontational toward Israel. Today you have Iraq which is under total occupation of America and its allies, and as such, it poses a Zero Threat Level to Israel.
Iran is another Minor to Zero Threat Level country to Israel, simply because the current regime there is a fake one and has personal agendas rather Israel, as its target. The Iranian Regime considers itself as the representative of the Greater Iranian Regional Power. Their objectives are to establish influence over the Arab World and the Middle Eastern Region at large. Carving out a Major Shia Block in the Middle East which would directly challenge the Sunni Majority Islamic World. This is why it funds Hezbollah in Lebanon, Syria to buffet Israel's reach, Iraq where it is increasing its presence and influence in Guerrilla Groups running and Bahrain, where an up-rising was given imputes by a Shia majority population.
Syria is too weakened by sanctions to offer any challenge to Israel in a military confrontation. For the best part of the last two decades, Syria has nothing except rusted Soviet Era MiGs that make up the bulk of its Air Force and anyone who has even the basic knowledge on military statistics in the Middle East, knows that Israel has a formidable and powerful Air Force. Boasting the largest fleet of F-16 Fighting Falcons, outside the United States, which is 362 --> F-16 A/C/B/D/I Blocks-15/30/40/50s. Other than that, Israel has a substantial fleet of true American Air Power Pedigree, the (78) F-15 Eagle, which is an Air Superiority fighter, that boasts 105-to-0 kill ratio in Air-to-Air Combat. These lethal fighter jets in Israel's air force, puts to rest, any challenge that Syria could muster.
Egypt has a bulked out, large, but useless military with ineffective fire power against Israel, as well. This is despite Egypt having a large fleet of F-16s in its Air Force, but those fighters and the rest of the fighters in Egyptian Air Force, lack any BVR (Beyond Visual Range) Air-to-Air Missiles and Long-Range Airborne Radars to lock on the enemy. Amazingly enough the corrupt, pro-western Mubarak Government had agreed to buy all these fighters (around 200+ F-16s) from America, without any BVR Missiles and Long-Range Airborne Radars. And the reason why this is so surprising, is because Egypt's Air Force, without BVR Missiles, is as helpless as a gazelle stuck between a pack of hyenas.
Looking to the north of Israel, Turkey offers a powerful military challenge to the enemy (Israel). But one needs to understand Turkey, where majority of the population there is Urban (70% Plus) and very secular. Turkey's military, though a powerful one, is totally secular and very close to Israel when it comes to military ties. This in itself renders Turkey useless at the time when Israel would orchestrate a supposed natural collapse of the Al-Aqsa/Dome Complex. Even if Turkey reacted as a nation against Israel, its military would fizzle out before the declaration of war is made against Israel. This is because the powerful elite of Turkey comprise of Masonic-Order Members, Elite-Zionist Businessmen who're in both the military, the bureaucracy and in certain parts of the civil offices.
Now, when you look at Pakistan, it the political landscape is completely different. The picture is very distorted, very dis-figured and extremely volatile. The best thing about Pakistan is also the worse thing about Pakistan. The West, the Zionists, the Masonic-Order, have tried their level best to get a grip at the helm of Pakistan's Power. They've tried it with Pakistan's Military, with Pakistan's Political Leadership, with the People of Pakistan. However, every time they've failed, be it in the shape of Musharraf, Nawaz, Benazir and Kiyani. The Zionist-Masonic Order has failed to understand the fundamentals which govern the Pakistani Mentality, and those are ....... there are none!! The Pakistani people are as divided for politicians as they are united for them, which makes them a very unstable vote bank.
But the reason for Israel being scared or threatened by Pakistan, are many and very significant. To start off,
- Pakistan is the only Islamic Nuclear Power in the world, meaning that in a times of crisis, the Islamic World, would look to for Pakistan to help. It also has developed highly accurate and precision strike weapons in the shape of Ballistic Missiles.
- Pakistan has developed the capability to build its own battle tanks, which can be a source of un-sanctionable military hardware for the Muslim countries in times of War. The MBT-2000, also known as Al-Khalid, boasts 125mm Smooth-Bore Gun, Battle Management System for Net-Centric Warfare and light weight to fight in the desert sand.
- Pakistan is now gaining the self-sufficiency to build its own fighter-jets and that makes it more dangerous, as it expands its horizons in the region as a power. The JF-17 Thunder is the first Sino-Pak fighter to have been developed, giving Pakistan full autonomy to further develop and arm its fighter, built 100% in Pakistan. Oh, and this fighter does have BVR Missiles, unlike the F-16s of Egypt.
- Pakistan has attained transfer of technology to develop its own War-Ships for its Navy, as well as Submarines, which allows it to project power at sea. The F-22P Alamgir Class Missile Frigate is also another example of the Sino-Pak Alliance cooperation. The Missile Frigate has the ability to shoot-down incoming fighter-jets and low-flying cruise missiles. Missile Frigate can also fire upto (72) Pakistani Made Babar Cruise Missiles.
- Pakistan's primary ally is the second largest economy in the world and is poised to take over from the United States as a superpower. China recognizes the strategic importance of Pakistan both geographically and politically. Where America continues to arm hindustan (india) to the teeth, China intends to do the same and more, by arming Pakistan against hindustan and thereby blunting out America's attempt to weaken China.
- There is no Political Party in Pakistan, which can claim absolute power, like the ones in Syria, Egypt, Saudi and Jordan. From the Late Liaquat Ali Khan, to Zulfiqar Bhutto, to Zia-ul-Haq, to Benazir Bhutto, to Nawaz Sharif, to Musharraf and to Zardari. All are temporary bribed and bought politicians that have come into power in Pakistan, illegally and against the will of the silent majority in Pakistan. And all have been removed from power, before they could establish their rule on a permanent basis, like Hafiz/Bashar Assad (Syria), Talal/Abdullah Hussain (Jordan), Saddam Hussain (Iraq), Saud Family (Arabia), Mubarak (Egypt) and Qaddafi (Libya).
Hence, when the Al-Aqsa/Dome-of-Rock Complex collapses due to contrived efforts by the Zionists. The tantamount up-roar in the Islamic World would reach fever pitch and would be out for Israel's blood. Of course, the supposed Arab Up-Rising resultant political powers would realize to their misfortune, how pathetically weak their country's militaries are against Israel. Iran's supposed arsenal of Ballistic Missiles would be worthless against Israel, as the ABM Systems would knock-out any incoming Iranian Missiles. The Islamic World would also get to know that Iranian Regime is an Impostor, one who only ranted against Israel and America because it wanted the Muslim World's support for a Greater Iranian sphere of influence and power.
At particular time, it would not be an open declaration of war by Pakistan's Military, against the illegal State of Israel. However, it would be Pakistan's deadly proxy war tactics, which it has been applying for decades in Afghanistan and Kashmir, against Israel. But the difference would be that when Israel would want to hit back, Pakistan is strong enough to thwart Israel's attack (Unlike the impotent Iraqi Air Force, which couldn't do nothing in the Osirak Strike) and also hit back Israel if it wanted. So it is this sort of threat that Israel would face from Pakistan and the reason why Pakistan would be unaffected by any indian-Israeli collaboration, would simply be because China would keep india pressed firmly under its thumb.
Hence the reason to destabilize and dismember Pakistan. Hence the reason for 130,000 U.S troops, under whose shadow, the Zionists can run their CIA Drone-Strikes, Black-Ops Units, Funded Terrorists Groups and Psychological Warfare against Pakistan. And they have been trying their level best since 2008!
One might ask, why not since 2001 when the American troops landed. The answer is fairly simple, whereby establishing contacts, understanding terrain, developing tactics, assimilating in social culture of the region and developing relationships with groups that can be molded for their purpose, like Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrghizis & Azeris.
Then, finally in 2008, when the Govt changes in Islamabad ...... that is when they begin their attacks, their infiltrations, their terrorist attacks and their psychological warfare against Pakistan, the People of Pakistan and its Military Power.
This is all, an elaborate effort to destabilize Pakistan to the extent that it becomes warranted that United States should move in to secure its nukes. That is how the tactics works and that is how they are gaining the upper hand in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And in order for them to be stopped, it is imperative that Pakistanis unite under the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam, 100%.
It is also important that the People of Pakistan, start forming private groups, which run autonomously from the law-enforcement agencies, intelligence agencies, but work for the same goal as them in destroying all infiltrated terrorist groups, black-ops groups and other foreign elements. People of Pakistan should understand the concept of Anti-Body White Blood Cells, and begin to act like them in order to purge Pakistan of America's dirty war.
If Pakistan can survive another 3 years, then it would witness America disintegrate economically and Israel would have to rely heavily on its ties with hindustan and its own black ops to challenge Pakistan. Which would also send them back to the drawing boards, to rethink their strategy.
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 20:39 # -
The Yanks are just trying to pressure Pakistanis, this is the time for coolness/patience from our side and more importantly weather the storm and take the pressure, it would be incredibly inane of Amrika too shoot itself in the foot, i am thinking about the supply line, not forgetting that we also have the firepower to hit back if it escalates even further. Normally the Yanks and NATO go for soft targets like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan.
We know what the Yanks want, basically a new 7 point agenda or something alike that was delivered 10 years ago too Mush.
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 21:52 # -
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Posted 8 months ago on 26 Sep 2011 11:55 # -
is dafa america ko bach k nhe janay dengay........
Posted 8 months ago on 26 Sep 2011 19:50 # -
@outspokenloud
u are coppying and pasting same matarial in defferent posts, so that it is better stick on topic which is related with ur matarial, because here we are discussing America not nawaz shareef.
ur same comments are also in this thread
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/a-silent-question-frm-ol-urdu-speaking-pplplz-answer/page/2Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 6:18 # -
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Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 7:26 #
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Irshad,
Don't worry about this dude sponkenoutloud; he is high on some very good stuff.
Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 8:35 # -
Oh boy Duago, you do know how to be brief about things!!!!
Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 9:21 # -
To continue with the spell as a savage Exterminator that US thinks it is holding on Pakistani nation;
Guts feelings are that soon after 29 September when Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani holds his all party conference to chalk out an agenda against the ulterior motives shown by US official to attack Pakistan ----and sooner a joint communique is issued or resolution is passed;
The first volley of US attack comprising of drone and other aerial attacks on selected targets would commence.
TTP can also carry out certain major attacks in cities and on other national installations.
It is but must that US must do it; otherwise it loses the spell and impact of all the allegation that it has levelled up against Pakistan in recent days
Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 10:08 # -
khokhar
Is your post prediction for "another american attack"
Posted 7 months ago on 27 Sep 2011 10:45 # -
America is a falling giant. In this process of falling, it has already crushed two million Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan. The ones who exaggerated the figure of Hitler to be 5 million never cry over the recent figure of two million Muslims.
Posted 7 months ago on 28 Sep 2011 11:40 # -
@hussain farooqui......Muslims and their sympathizers have been crying for a longer period of time than one would like to remember.....
obviously, crying alone is not enough...if Muslims want to get rid of all discriminations they have been subjected to then they must excell in education, research & development, knowledge based studies, technology, scientific fields, arts arena, medical avenues and cyberspace.....YMuslims can't beat the world with weapons and being rowdy but if they can give the West a run for their money in aforementioned fields Muslims have every chance to be counted again and given due respect in the comity of nations...
Crying part is very easy and picking up arms even easier as compared to hardwork of staying competitive in technologies and scientific discoveries....
Posted 7 months ago on 28 Sep 2011 12:16 # -
SAK
Most of your points are agreeable. Unless we strengthen ourselves in terms of unity, education, technology, we can't stop our enemies to stop their hands. It is our own fault to be disunited on sectarian basis, linguistic basis, regional basis,,etc.. and more to it being educationally and technologically weak.
Posted 7 months ago on 28 Sep 2011 13:30 # -
@duago
Hats off to you my dear for a post that comes from a true patriot who happens to be an intellectual as well; one who cares for Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Bravo...appreciated.
Thanks brother.Posted 7 months ago on 28 Sep 2011 19:02 # -
Amerika kabhi bhi humara dost nahi ho sakta.
yeh baat kabhi humaray hukumrano aur foujiyon kay dimagh mein nahi bethti.
no2. akhair Iran bhi zinda hay
usska nuclear program bhi zinda hay
Amerika ne unka kuch nahi bigaraAfghanistan ko pechaly 100 salon se koi shikast nahi de saka.
Afghnistan kay pass na nuclear plant hay na kisi dosray mulk ki support
na paisa na wasyel
phir bhi Russia kay tukray kar dalay
phir bhi Amerika kay chakkay churra diyehum Afghanistan se bhi gaye guzraye hain kiya?
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 5:40 # -

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Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 5:51 # -
dost dost na raha.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 7:14 # -
choosy bhai
kaheen aap rental qatil and slave master relation ko dostee tau naih samujh bhaithay.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 7:28 # -
he he he
@junaid bhai,
mein jo uppar likha wohh aik sarcastic yani tanziya remark tha un aqalmandon kay liye kay jo amerika ko dost samjhtay hain...
mein tou bachpan se amerika se dosti kay khilaaf hoon..Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 7:38 # -
very well choosy bhai.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 9:00 # -
choosy bhai,
America dunya ka sub say bara goonda hai. Sirf Chinese hee us koo lagam day sakray hain.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 9:20 # -
Tabhi to chinese hmaray sath hen.........nd salute 2 ma Pak Army........v r wid u at evry front........chahay hath me joota ya danda hi ho......hum us se b aap logon ka sath dengay.......agay barho or dushman ko mun torh jawab do......aj nhe to kal dena parega lekin is se behtar waqt nhe ayega........is moqay ko ghaneemat jano or apnay qabayli sheron nd afghani bahaduron k sath buzdil ka qeema kr dalo......agay barho hum tmharay sath hen.........
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 12:42 # -
qatl-e-Hussain(as) asl mein marg-e-yazeed(la) hai
Islam zinda hota hai her Karbala kay baadiqbal
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 13:40 # -
Islam is Zinda since Adam AS came into this world. Islam was, is and will always be active and flourishing until end of the world.
When did Iqbal say that? Probabaly before he realized the true spirit of Islam. Islam only dies in the hearts of those who loose Iman and Yaqeen. This can happen to anyone you, me or Iqbal. Karbala has nothing to do with that.Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 17:11 # -
"Islam only dies in the hearts of those who loose Iman and Yaqeen. This can happen to anyone you, me or Iqbal. Karbala has nothing to do with that."
Very well said Abdul Rahman!
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 18:22 # -
@ shaagird: Poet of this "shair" is Maulana Mohd Ali Jouhar NOT Iqbal.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 18:38 # -
I liked the word "another".
Definitely not the first one!
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 18:48 #
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