PKPolitics Discuss » Social and Cultural Issues

Apology demanded to Samaa TV on objectionable morning show

(52 posts)
  1. klosedstreet
    Member

    Sawera ka Chapa [Subah Saweray Maya kay Sath] is a morning show on Sama TV channel anchored by 'Maya'. This morning show is supposed to be investigative in nature and is meant to investigate any issue, which it considers, in its eyes, injurious to society. During this investigative program, all forms of basic human rights are violated and it is an invasion to privacy. This program claims that it will help in bringing reforms in society and slap the evil of so-called moral looseness .

    In its most recent episode, Sawera ka Chapa raided a park in Clifton Karachi and humiliated the couples dating there. It seems that they have arrested the criminals or culprits of unforgivable crimes. The program team ran after the couples and forced them to give interviews without their consent. They asked them unethical and illogical questions such as;

    Why are you here?
    Why are you dating here?
    Have you prior approval from your parents for dating?
    What are your reasons for running away from the schools/colleges/ universities and offices during official timings.
    You are the black spots on the name of family, community, religion and country!
    You are the axis of evil in society!
    Now the question is that; do the media have the right to act in this way and threaten the dating couples of dire consequences?
    Who gave this right to Sawera ka Chapa to ask such kind of questions and infringe upon individuals privacy?
    If the Sawera ka Chapa has the right to investigate and verdict then what is the meaning of being policing and judiciary? What is the difference between this kind of media vigilantism and that demonstrated by the Taliban?
    How can the Sawera ka Chapa team blame Abaya as a symbol of prostitution?
    Where is the censor board to censor such kind of programs?

    The dilemma with us is that we are living in a country where the violation of fundamental rights is a usual practice. No one dares to raise her voice against such kind of violations. The violators are free to invade privacy without any prior approval or consent. No formal accountability system is in place for such kind of violations. The societal conservativeness and its adherence to some so-called taboos restrict the individual s freedom of expression and speech. It also restricts the freedom of movement and association.

    We, the civil society, are deeply concerned over recently aired episode of Sawera ka Chapa and demand that authorities concerned must take appropriate steps to compensate the harassed couples. We demand a formal apology from the anchor and the producer, and assurance from concerned authorities that no such episodes will be aired in future.

    Mahnaz Rahman,
    Resident Director,
    Aurat Foundation (KHI)
    D-3/1, Block 7, KDA Scheme 5,
    Clifton, Karachi
    Tel: +92 213 587 47 18
    Fax: +92 213 583 01 95
    Web: http://www.af.org.pk/gep

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 1:44 #
  2. khanseena1
    Member

    Fully agree with you Mahnaz....Maya Khan was disgraceful.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 2:07 #
  3. jabalultariq
    Member

    If Not censoring half dressed women is ok in media I don't see anything wrong here as well

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 6:01 #
  4. sultanalikhan
    Member

    I haven't personally watched the program which is the topic of this thread, but if it is even half truth of what has been narrated here then it must be abhorred and condemned by all decent people. Doesn't Pakistan have defamation and privacy laws by which affectees can sue and teach a lesson to such self-appointed vigilantes?

    People who take it upon themselves to rid society of all evils and think themselves as being the protector of morality, ethics, piety, virtue are the ones causing to society more harm than any good. They should realize and respect fundamental rights of people's privacy, freedom of movement, freedom of speech, freedom of choice so on and so forth. No decent society can allow such imposing and insolent behavior and hope to progress forward. These rights are defined and protected by constitution.

    Now, the TV presenter might argue she is doing it with good intent. She should ask herself who gave her the right to do so? There are police to enforce laws and rules, and by imposing on people her will she is acting as larger than the law, isn't she?? With a camera in hand and a foul mouth to shoot off from can never make her a journalist. To me such people are common criminal who do not have any respect for the rights of others but are self righteous, which should be stopped forthwith.

    In my view KlosedStreet is right in demanding an apology from the TV presenter Maria, producer and all those involved in this stupid act.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:01 #
  5. Public/dating couples should raid bedroom of Maya Khan in the morning. I would join them.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:09 #
  6. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @SweetTruth.......now this is another extreme you are indulging in......lolllzz

    You also got me confused now about the name of that TV presenter; is it Maria as written by author of the thread or Maya as you mentioned it?

    Thinking outloud; seeing your deep interest in opposite gender, I am dreading you will be proven right here....lolll

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:26 #
  7. @SAK

    My interest in opposite gender is deeper than you can think and it continues to grow. My raid in her bedroom is a just response to this lady who is invading privacy of young couples in public places.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:38 #
  8. SufiSoul
    Member

    We, the civil society, are deeply concerned over recently aired episode of Sawera ka Chapa and demand that authorities concerned must take appropriate steps to compensate the harassed couples. We demand a formal apology from the anchor and the producer, and assurance from concerned authorities that no such episodes will be aired in future...
    ///////////////////

    what you did for afia siddiqui uptill now???It seems you are endorsing the very act of DATING in Parks.No civil society is with you and you people are just hungary organisations,for some dollars.
    We never saw you here in this Blog for Afia siddiqui as we are here before the date of capture of Afia Siddiqui.
    Stop your smpathy show with DATING COUPLES.And we will not allow you stop anyone comming up with DIRTY PICTURE of the society.
    Leaving dating couples alone nothing than to encourage this attitude of unmature females.
    So we strongly condemn your so-called campaign against this morning show....

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:44 #
  9. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @SweetTruth.....then her name is Maya?

    By invading Maya's bedroom one would be stooping low to her level, would not it?

    Then what will be the difference between Maya and the invader?

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:48 #
  10. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @SufiSoul....it will be nice if you rather than making it personal stay on the topic.......Two wrongs cannot make one right!!!

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 7:51 #
  11. jabalultariq
    Member

    I think Aurat Foundation should focus on restoring the dignity of women by not making her an object and putting some clothes and haya back on.....instead of hiding her deeds....if it were done in public !!!!!!

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 8:17 #
  12. Adonis
    Member

    How can anyone claim "privacy" at a public place?

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 8:22 #
  13. sultanalikhan
    Member

    Privacy is invaded when someone takes your photo or beams your pictures via camera all over the world without your knowledge,consent and permission......even if you are in a public place!!!

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 10:57 #
  14. bsobaid
    Member

    I bet this ignorant woman did not think of all that.

    All she thought of was.."wow..that will be sooo kewllll"
    "we'll make their video, demand nikahnama, show their pictures to whole world and then girl's parent will kill her..that would be soo awesom!! "

    btw, there is another thread on the same topic. Mods should merge.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 14:36 #
  15. Ghost Protocol
    Member

    Auton ki Shabab milli, Maya Khan, Media would do anything to get ratings.
    1)What right Maya khan and team have to approach couples in that very objectionable manner?
    2)Does condemning of this act means supporting Afia Siddiqi's un-lawful imprisonment in USA?
    3)Do we have principles established for supporting or opposing any act?

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 16:55 #
  16. Is this the program the poster is talking about?

    Subah Saverey Maya kay Sath Jan 17, 2012 SAMAA. It seems SAMAA TV has removed the original set of videos from Youtube.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 19:44 #
  17. SufiSoul
    Member

    @SufiSoul....it will be nice if you rather than making it personal stay on the topic.......Two wrongs cannot make one right!!!
    ///////

    these so-called human rights activists are promoting dating in open public Parks.
    They just hunt some dollars.they dont knoe even about the case of Afia Sidiqui.
    Why their are DATES in open public Parks.What you will explain if you along with your daughter passing through DATING couples.
    Pls enlighten us...

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 20:28 #
  18. SufiSoul
    Member

    یں ایک گورنمنٹ کالج میں لیکچرار ہوں۔ میری فقط تین سالہ ملازمت میں یہ پہلا واقعہ نہیں بلکہ یہ ایک معمول ہے۔ میرے اپنے تعلیمی دور کو بیتے زیادہ عرصہ نہیں ہوا، مگر نوجوانوں کی روز بہ روز بگڑتی حالت کو دیکھ کر محسوس ہوتا ہے کہ جیسے میرے طالب علمی کے زمانے کو صدیاںبیت گئی ہیں۔ میں یہ نہیں کہتی کہ میرے دور میں ماحول سو فی صد پاکیزہ تھا، تمام ہی طالبات کا چال چلن مثالی تھا، مگر لڑکیوں کو یونیفارم میں آنا اور کالج کے بجائے ادھر ادھر نکل جانا، کالج دورانیے میں بھی کونوں کھدروں میں چھپ کر فون پر گفت وشنید کرنے کا تناسب روزبہ روز انتہائی تیزی سے بڑھ رہا ہے۔ پہلے کالج کے چار سیکشن میں سے کسی ایک سیکشن کی لڑکی غلط حرکات میں ملوث پائی جاتی تھی، وہ بھی سال دو سال میں، مگر آج ہر کلاس ہر سیکشن میں ایسے واقعات ہر پندرہ بیس روز میں سامنے آجاتے ہیں۔ میں اس کا ذمے دارنہ میڈیا کو گردانتی ہوں اور نہ ہی موبائل فون کو، میں اس بگڑتی ہوئی صورت حال کی ذمے داری برملا والدین پر ڈالتی ہوں۔ انتہائی متوسط طبقے سے تعلق رکھنے والی طالبات جن کے لاغر وجود چیخ چیخ کر باور کروارہے ہوتے ہیں کہ انہیں کئی روز سے پیٹ بھر کر روٹی نصیب نہیںہوئی ہے، فیس جمع کروانے کے لیے مالی مشکلات کا سامنا ہوتا ہے، لیکن ان کے پاس موجود موبائل سیٹ قابل دید ہوتے ہیں۔ یہ سیٹ کہاں سے آیا، اگر آبھی گیا تو بیلنس کے لیے پیسے کہاں سے آرہے ہیں، یہ نت نئے نام کی دوستیاں کہاں سے ہو گئیں، موبائل فون سائلنٹ پر کیوں رکھا جانے لگا۔ وہ بچی جو رات کو کسی کمرے میں اکیلے سونے سے ڈرتی تھی، موبائل سیٹ آنے کے بعد اتنی بہادر کیسے ہوگئی۔ اسے فون سرہانے رکھے بغیر نیند کیوں نہیں آتی۔ یہ سوالات ماو ¿ں کے اذہان میں کیوں نہیں کلبلاتے۔

    یہ صرف کالج طالبات ہی کی بات نہیں ہے، بلکہ اس کا شکار تمام نوجوان نسل ہے۔ لڑکے، لڑکیاں سب ہی اس بلاکا شکار ہیں۔ آپ کو چنگ سینٹرز کا دورہ کریں، وہاں مزید کم عمر اسکول کے بچے ہیں۔ اندر بچیوں کی کلاس ختم، باہر لڑکے ایس ایم ایس پڑھ رہے ہیں۔ ”میں آرہی ہوں۔“ دو گھنٹے کی کوچنگ کلاس اکثر چار گھنٹے پر محیط ہو جاتی ہے۔ مائیں بچیوں کی زبانی سن کر مطمئن ہوجاتی ہیں۔ بلا شبہ اکثر سچ بھی ہوتا ہے، مگر ماو ¿ں کو از خود تصدیق کرنی چاہیے۔ بچیوں کو انہتائی قیمتی تحائف مل رہے ہوتے ہیں۔ مائیں بہ آسامی بچیوں کے جھانسے میں آجاتی ہیں۔ یہ پوچھنے کی زحمت گوارا نہیں کرتی کہ یہ کون سی سہیلی ہے۔ اگر بچی انجانا نام لیتی ہے تو اس کی تفتیش کیوں نہیں کی جاتی، مائیں کیوں نہیں سوچتیں کہ بیٹی کی نئی دوست جس کا جمعہ جمعہ آٹھ دن سے نام سن رہی ہیں، بھلا وہ کیوں اتنے قیمتی تحائف دے گی۔ بچی کو کیوں اچانک ہی سجنے سنور نے کا شوق چڑایا۔ کیوں وہ گھر سے سنور کر نکلنے لگی؟ ماو ¿ں کوکوئی پروا ہی نہیں ہوتی۔ خود محلے کی تانک جھانک میںاس قدر مگن رہتی ہیں کہ عزت کے محل میں دراڑیں پڑتی جارہی ہیں۔ انہیں احساس ہی نہیں ہوتا، البتہ محل ڈھے جانے کے بعد واویلا مچاتی ہیں۔

    میری ماوں سے التجا ہے خدارا اپنی بچیوں پر توجہ دیں۔ یہ نازک کلیاں ہیں، ان کی اچھی آبیاری کریں گی تو یہ آپ کے گلشن کی رونق ہیں، ورنہ مسلی، مرجھائی کلیاں گلشن کا حسن ماند کردیتی ہیں۔ یہ یادرکھیں
    (copied

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 20:36 #
  19. SufiSoul
    Member

    س باتھ روم میں ایک لڑکی موبائل پر بات کررہی ہے۔“ میرے کالج میں
    موبائل فون لانے پر پابندی ہے، لہذا جیسے ہی چند طالبات نے مجھے یہ اطلاع دی، میں بڑی سرعت سے جائے وقوع پر پہنچی۔ ایک سیدھی سادی سی بچی تولیے سے ہاتھ صاف کرتی ہوئی باتھ روم
    سے باہر نکلی۔
    ”موبائل نکالیے“ مجھے اس پر شک نہیںتھا، وہ تو اسے باتھ روم سے باہر آتے دیکھ کر ایسے ہی پوچھ لیا تھا۔ ”میرے پاس نہیں مس میرے پاس نہیں ہے موبائل“ چہرے پر بلا کی معصومیت تھی۔ اس کے معصوم چہرے سے نگاہ ہٹی اور براہ راست کالج مونوگرام والی جیب پر پڑگئی۔
    ”یہ کیا ہے“ اگلے ہی لمحے چپس کا پیکٹ میرے ہاتھ میںتھا، جس کے اندر حرکت ہورہی تھی۔
    ”میں نے استعمال نہیں کیا۔“ اس نے میرے ہاتھ سے چپس کے پیکٹ میں لپٹا ہوا موبائل فون جھپٹنا چاہا۔

    ”اول تو کالج میں موبائل فون لانے کی اجازت نہیں، پھر....“ میری بات مکمل ہونے سے قبل اس نے کہا”مس! کیا بیگ میں رکھتی، چوری نہ ہوجاتا؟“
    ”کل پرنسپل سے لے لینا، آج تو وہ میٹنگ میں گئی ہوئی ہیں۔“
    میں نے اتنا کہا اور اگلا قدم بڑھانا چاہا جو اس نے بڑھنے نہیں دیا۔
    ”پلیز.... میرا موبائل دے دیجئے۔“ وہ برے طریقے سے جھپٹی۔
    ”میں نے کہا ناں، کل والدین کو بھیج دینا، مل جائے گا۔“ اسی وقت موبائل فون پر کال آرہی تھی۔
    ”نہیں مجھے ابھی چاہیے، اسی وقت“ اس کا انداز نہایت جارحانہ اور جاہلانہ ہوگیا تھا۔ مجھ پر حملہ کرنے کی لمحے بھر کی دیر تھی کہ سینئر پروفیسر نے آکر اسے ڈانٹا، مگر وہ قابو میں آنے والوں میں سے نہ تھی۔ حتیٰ کہ کالج کی چھٹی ہوگئی اور وہ تڑپ تڑپ کر روتی رہی۔ موبائل فون پوشیدہ مقام پر رکھنے سے قبل لاتعداد آنے والے ایس ایم ایس چیک کیے گئے تو معلوم ہوا آگ دوسری جانب بھی برابر لگی ہوئی تھی۔ ایک لڑکا ایس ایم ایس کے جواب نہ ملنے پر بے قرار تھا۔

    اگلے دن نہ وہ بچی آئی نہ کوئی موبائل فون لینے، لیکن اس کے گھر سے کوئی اس کا فون سیٹ لینے آتا بھی تو کیا ہوتا۔ ہم جتنے بھی اس کے ایس ایم ایس پڑھو ادیتے ماں باپ کو ٹیچرز ہی کو برا بھلا کہنے پر اکتفا کرنا تھا کہ ایسا ہی ہوتا ہے۔ عموماً مائیں آتی ہیں تو ٹیچرز کو دقیانوسی اور اپنی بیٹی کو کھلا ذہن رکھنے والی قرار دیتی ہیں اور اکثر دوبارہ جب ملاقات کاشرف بخشتی ہیں تو بیٹی کسی کے ساتھ فرار ہو چکی ہوتی ہے اور اس آس پر آتی ہیں کہ شاید بھولے بھٹکے کالج آجائے کسی کام سے، مگر اس وقت تک پانی سر سے اونچا ہوچکا ہوتا ہے اور ان کی آس، آس ہی رہ جاتی ہے۔ کچھ والدین تو بے عزتی کے خوف سے خاموش ہو جاتے ہیں کہ ”اب کیا ہووت جب چڑیاں چگ گئیں کھیت“

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 20:37 #
  20. bsobaid
    Member

    @sufi,

    I completely agree, immorality is on rise among youth even in middle class or lower class families.

    I interact with college going youth and I get amazed at the stories I hear. Immorality is at an unimaginable level and sexual promiscuity is becoming unbelievably common and all that not just in rich families but common ordinary middle and lower class families too.

    I agree this is a tough situation.

    At the very least this low IQ host should have obscured the identity of people she encountered. She does not have the right to penalize anyone. Secondly, she should only target kids who are in school/college uniform. Thirdly, she is going after presumably poorer kids, she should have tried in McDonalds and other places where rich kids go and then we would have seen how those spolit brats had treated that ignorant, low IQ woman and aunty brigade.

    Even if cell phones are important due to security issues, parents should only allow them during college/school hours and take them back once kids are home and check call and message history.

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 20:48 #
  21. SufiSoul
    Member

    media is responsible to drag such issues before public..all i can say is...

    Posted 4 months ago on 24 Jan 2012 22:04 #
  22. Shadix
    Member

    Is it a new form of Taliban in Karachi?

    Posted 4 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 1:03 #
  23. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    this was really a disgusting show from Maya Khan.

    who the hell does she think she is... she deserves to be in Tribal Areas where they would flog her for not wearing burqa.

    this is the other side of maya... how is she even trying to claim to be moral police. i recommend all of you to never watch her show again.

    look at the mufti saahab at the back hahahahah
    hypocrites should think twice before pointing at others, that is the only way Pakistan can improve.

    Posted 4 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 3:40 #
  24. SAMAA TV and Maya Khan Apologize regarding this issue.

    دیر آید درست آید - شکریہ اور شہریتی صحافیوں کو بہت بہت مبارک باد-

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 15:30 #
  25. bsobaid
    Member

    Thats good.

    Good stuff.

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 15:33 #
  26. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    well some people will be happy with this apology...

    but im not...
    she is LAUGHING while apologizing, just look at her!
    absurd. there is a way to apologize. she doesnt feel the need to apologize, its only her channel that made her do this for loosing business.

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 17:43 #
  27. TV channel should sack Maya from her job as this would be a fitting response to Maya Khan's morning raid in a local park.

    She is the biggest joke on TV

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 19:53 #
  28. bsobaid
    Member

    and also the show producer..

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 20:40 #
  29. insaftak
    Member

    I am with QKM on this. This B1tch is still laughing.

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 20:48 #
  30. bsobaid
    Member

    I watched the video after mazar's post.

    I dont get it, iss kee batteesee kion nikli hoee hai?

    She is soo low IQ she does'nt even know how to apologize.

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 20:55 #
  31. bsobaid
    Member

    and what the heck is she wearing on her head? did she just take a shower and wrapped a towel around..?

    Posted 3 months ago on 25 Jan 2012 21:41 #
  32. jabalultariq
    Member

    Am I missing something.......apology for hounding dating couples ??? what's wrong with that.....media hounds everyone ?

    do you anything wrong below ??? I dont know whats the fuss

    "

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 5:15 #
  33. Adonis
    Member

    Maya Khan did not go to anybody's house to invade their privacy. She has gone to a public place. What is so great about young boys and girls who have been sent to colleges by their parents but have bunked their classes and are dating in public parks? They should definitely be named and shamed.

    If a drug addict is taking drugs at a public place, then showing him on TV is an invasion of privacy?

    If so, then I am totally in favor of such invasion of privacy.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 5:28 #
  34. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Off course Maya Khan did not do anything wrong. Those kids should have stayed at home and than get impregnated by their father's ADC and than elope with him. That is the appropriate way, who goes to the parks and chit chats?

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 5:32 #
  35. bsobaid
    Member

    @adonis,

    who has given them the right to defame people like this and make their photos without consent?

    At the very least they should have blurred their photos and doctored their voices, but this is too much to expect from this low IQ woman.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 14:59 #
  36. Adonis
    Member

    @bsobaid

    Any one can be photographed at a public place. When pictures of some people are blurred it is usually when they are victims and it is to protect them.

    While it is true that airing of photos of girls dating in the public park can have negative consequences for them, but it can also have the positive impact of discouraging others from deceiving their parents.

    It is anybody's opinion whether the positives outweigh the negatives or not.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 16:24 #
  37. bsobaid
    Member

    No Adonis.

    No one has the right to go out and penalize people other than people who are entitled to and are authorized by government and are protected by law.

    Those couples were not committing any crime.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 16:58 #
  38. Adonis
    Member

    These couples are not committing any crime and this is why no legal action is being taken against them. Similarly, there is mo law against filming these couples and therefore Maya Khan was also not committing any crime.

    If filming these couples was not ethical or moral then what these couples were doing is also not considered moral by the majority of our society. Again, everyone will have a different opinion regarding whose action was more immoral.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 17:51 #
  39. bsobaid
    Member

    She was'nt filming, she was harassing.

    Asking personal questions, demanding personal documents, accusing them of immoral activities and defaming them by putting them on national TV without consent is harassing.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 18:02 #
  40. bsobaid
    Member

    I agree something needs to be done about this dating culture and rising immorality among youth, but this is certainly not the right way. I remember some member of Punjab assembly wanted to a pass a resolution to put an end to unlimited all night talk cell phone packages. This was the right thing to do.

    Similarly, showing these dating couples without identifying them or harassing them would have been a good idea too.

    Most importantly, banning Indian Channels and banning oryaani-o-fohaashi kaa sailaab on our national TV channels is also a good idea.

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 18:06 #
  41. jabalultariq
    Member

    @bsobaid - I think youre being ambivalent here , you look at media , as if it was western media who will be shunned for such cheap tricks , which is essentially all what this drama was, however you should not compare western media's ethics and our media's ethics, anything and everything is acceptable here , so if Maya picks on this haram kari , whats wrong with that , times have changed, has our morality as well ?? I hope not !

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 19:40 #
  42. bsobaid
    Member

    haram kari? Sitting and talking is haram kari? I dont think so.

    I remember Musharraf used to give similar reasons. He used to say our environment is different and western human right laws cant be applied in Pakistan; as if Pakistanis are a lesser human being.

    Secondly, I dont think anyone is supporting this dating culture here, but this is not the right way to resolve it. What do you achieve by harassing unsuspecting individuals in this case? If the show wanted to make a point, they could have done it in an ethical way by not revealing the identities and without harassing them.

    If we apply the same logic then anyone can harass a woman on the street and accuse her of "haram kari".

    Ehasaas-e-zayaan jaata raha...

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 20:13 #
  43. jabalultariq
    Member

    "haram kari? Sitting and talking is haram kari? I dont think so"

    if we call ourselves "Islamic Republic of PK" then it is, and its very clear in Qur'an , otherwise there is nothing wrong per western standards

    Western Human right laws has nothing to do here , I was talking about ethics , they have TV shows which do the same , even more aggressively. No body invokes privacy issues

    Infact, Maya wasnt doent look so interested in clamping down dating culture , she managed to create a sensation , which gets SAMAA more viewers , more ads , buck stops here !! She doesnt look conservative enough to shun dating

    sorry didnt understand

    "If we apply the same logic then anyone can harass a woman on the street and accuse her of "haram kari".

    "

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 22:14 #
  44. zaln
    Member

    Posted 3 months ago on 26 Jan 2012 22:15 #
  45. jabalultariq
    Member

    Thanks Zalan - emphasis is on ethics not human rights

    Following is a popular show in North America

    "

    Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 0:02 #
  46. Ghost Protocol
    Member

    @JT
    Apni millat par qayas aqwame Maghrib se na kar....

    Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 4:40 #
  47. jabalultariq
    Member

    GP bhai - Iqbal is no more applicable to our halat-e-zar , please review this:

    Iqbal teray days ka kya haal sunaon

    dehqaan to mer khap gaya, ub kis ko jagaon
    milta hai kahaan khosha-e-gandum kay jalaaon
    shaheen ka hai gumbad-e-shahi pay basera
    kunjishk far-o-maya ko ub kis say laraaon

    Iqbal teray days ka kya haal sunaon

    makkari-o-aiyari-o-ghaddari-o-hayjaan
    ub banta hai in chaar anaasir say musalman
    qari isay kehna to bari baat hai yaro
    is nay to kabhi khole kay dekha nahi Quran

    bay baaki-o-haq goi say ghabrata hai momin
    makkari-o-robahi pay itrata hai momin
    jis rizq say parwaz mein kotahi ka der ho
    wo rizq baray shauq say khata hai momin

    shaheen ka jahaan, aaj mamolay ka jahaan hai
    milti hui mulla say mujahid key azaan hai
    maana kay sitaron say bhi aagay hain jahaan aur
    shaheen mein magar taqat-e-parwaz kahaan hai

    kirdaar ka, guftaar ka, aamal ka momin
    qayel nahi esay kisi janjaal ka momin
    sarhad ka hai momin, koi bangaal ka momin
    dhoonday say bhi milta nahi Quran ka momin

    her daardhi mein tinka hai, her aankh mein shehteer
    momin key nigahon say ub badalti nahi taqdeer
    tawheed key talwaron say khali hain neyamein
    ub zauq-e-yaqeen say nahi kat-tee koi zanjeer

    dekho to zara mehlon kay pardon ko utha ker
    shamsheer-o-sinaan rakhi hain taaqon mein saja ker
    aatay hain nazar masnad-e-shahi pay rangeelay
    taqdeer-e-umam so gei, taaous pay aa ker

    mer mer key silon say koi bay zaar nahi hai
    rehnay ko haram mein koi teiyar nahi hai
    kehnay ko her shakhs musalman hai lekin
    dekho to kahin naam ko kirdar nahi hai

    Mehmudon key saff, aaj Ayazon say paray hai
    jamhur say sultani-e-jamhur waray hai
    thaamay huay daaman hai, yahan per jo khudi ka
    mer mer kay jiye hai, kabhi jee jee kay meray hai

    payda kabhi hoti thee seher, jis key azaan say
    us banda-e-momin ko main ub laaon kahaan say
    wo sajda, zameen jis say laraz jaati thee yaro
    ek bar hum chhut gaye, is baar-e-garaan say

    Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 15:40 #
  48. Ghost Protocol
    Member

    @JT,
    Thanks for posting this wonderful "noha"
    If I understand the spirit of this "noha" correctly, than
    musalman kirdar ka momin tah her soo?
    jawan kumand liye bhagta tah sitaron key peechehy?
    perwaz ki kotahi ka dar tah na koyee?
    halqa e yaran mein tah momin baresham ki tarah naram?
    Razme haqo baatil mein talwar tah momin?

    Did Iqbal painted the picture of prevalent Muslim society at that time? or did he express to attain certain heights in muslim character by following Islamic principles?

    Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 16:24 #
  49. zaln
    Member

    Maya khan is an angel

    http://youtu.be/xtu2lFd8uts?t=262s

    Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 17:32 #
  50. Talat Hussain did a comprehensive program on this:

    http://pkpolitics.com/2012/01/27/news-night-with-talat-27-january-2012/

    Until some punitive action is not done by the industry itself, we will keep on watching such shows and drunken intellectuals on our TVs. This program's host and the producer should have been fired.

    Posted 3 months ago on 28 Jan 2012 12:08 #

RSS feed for this topic

Reply »

You must log in to post.