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Asia Is Next Economic Superpower ?

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  1. Sweettruth

    Can Pakistan ever become an economic super power?

    Posted 2 years ago on 25 Nov 2012 20:04 #
  2. Hussain Farooqui

    Pakistan has a great potential to grow as an economic power. The long time political turmoil has been causing heavy damages to our social and economic structures.

    Posted 2 years ago on 26 Nov 2012 7:49 #
  3. rollcall

    TOP 10 SMARTPHONE MANUFACTUERS Q3 OF 2012

    Its becoming ever more an Asian field. The non-Asian contenders are down to three, one left in the USA (Apple), one from Canada (RIM, in trouble) and one left from Europe (Nokia, about to die). But there are 3 from China, 2 from South Korea, one each from Japan and Taiwan.

    Rank (previous) . . Manufacturer . . . . . . . . Sales in Q3
    1 (1) . . . . . . . . . Samsung . . . . . . . .56.2 Million
    2 (2) . . . . . . . . . Apple . . . . . . .. . 26.9 Million
    3 (8) . . . . . . . . . Huawei . . . . . . . . .16.0 Million
    4 (7) . . . . . . . . . Sony . . . . . . . . . 8.8 Million
    5 (5) . . . . . . . . . ZTE . . . . . . . . . 8.0 Million
    6 (4) . . . . . . . . . HTC . . . . . . . . . 7.8 Million
    7 (6) . . . . . . . . . RIM . . . . . . . . . 7.4 Million
    8 (9) . . . . . . . . . LG . . . . . . . . . 7.2 Million
    9 (11) . . . . . . . . Lenovo . . . . . . . . 7.0 Milllion
    10(3) . . . . . . . . . Nokia . . . . . . . . 6.3 Million

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Dec 2012 7:10 #
  4. Hussain Farooqui

    China, Bharat and Malaysia have recorded tremendous progress in trade & industry.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Dec 2012 14:00 #
  5. EasyGo

    1 (1) . . . . . . . . . Samsung . . . . . . . .56.2 Million
    2 (2) . . . . . . . . . Apple . . . . . . .. . 26.9 Million

    ==========

    May be that's why Apple is suing Samsung every other day.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Dec 2012 17:37 #
  6. Sweettruth

    Samsung copies design of Apple phones all the time. That is why Apple sue them. I have used both brands and must say Apple phones are much superior than Samsung phones.

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Dec 2012 20:19 #
  7. munshi

    @Sweettruth

    Agree with you that apple phone is superior but what about price. Ultimately people decide on "value for money" basis and that is why Sumsung is NO.1.

    Rolls royce might have superior cars but Toyota is NO.1 car company and their business model is much more successful.

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Dec 2012 21:14 #
  8. Sweettruth

    @munshi

    You are right. You can't beat quality and excellence of Rolls Royce. I would love to own one but zalim car is bloody expensive.

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Dec 2012 21:34 #
  9. Hussain Farooqui

    The Japanese industry evolved on the world horizon with a new industrial concept of manufacturing disposable items. They developed the products which were affordable and conveniently usable. That was how they swept a large part of the global market. Now, China and Bharat are following similar policies.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 6:23 #
  10. EasyGo

    Samsung copies design of Apple phones all the time.

    =======

    This may be true, but one can see smart phones by all companies having many things similar, particularly the processors, software etc.

    Apple or any other company won't bother as long as someone doesn't become its competitor.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 6:55 #
  11. Hussain Farooqui

    The West supported Bharat to offer competition to China. Well, Bharat grew up very well with the Western support, but the West's mission failed becuase of the unexpected growth rate of China. China left behind not only Bharat but became a challenge to the economic giants like Japan, Germany and America.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 8:03 #
  12. Sweettruth

    Pakistan does not have leaders to make the country an Asian economic super power. I cannot see any leader with vision to take Pakistan forward. They all are insincere, looteray and incompetent.

    Can any one tell me a single name of a sincere Pakistani leader?

    Despite widespread corruption, India and China have made impressive development.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:16 #
  13. Javed Sheikh

    Asia could be A Super Power of Heavily Populated Dependants facing shrinking resources.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:35 #
  14. Sweettruth

    @JS

    You are right!

    Massive population is one of the main obstacles of Asian development. Both China and India face this problem.

    What is your view about Pakistan ever becoming an Asian super power?

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:38 #
  15. EasyGo

    What is your view about Pakistan ever becoming an Asian super power?

    =====

    @ST

    You know the answer, but you just want to enjoy...
    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:48 #
  16. Sweettruth

    @Easy Go

    What answer?

    Give us your thoughts over this topic.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:53 #
  17. wsheikh

    @rollcall

    The Asian Smartphone manufacturers that you have listed are incapable of designing an Operating System for their phones.

    Guess which OS they use: Android.
    Guess who makes Android: Google.
    Guess where google is: USA.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:02 #
  18. Sweettruth

    @wsheikh

    It is still hard to beat technological supremacy of USA. America bashing is favourite past time of many forum members.

    I would say my iPhone 4s is still the best smart phone and superior quality of iPad is unmatchable.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:08 #
  19. rollcall

    @wsheikh
    The Asian Smartphone manufacturers that you have listed are incapable of designing an Operating System for their phones.

    ===========================================

    Where are you living my friend, you want us to discuss more than 1000BC concept, which people/groups/countries are using since the early civilizations.

    Everybody doesn’t need to produce everything. Go and read “Competitive Advantage Theory”, you will find the answer of your question. In the meantime enjoy below news:

    “The Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) said China's economy will be larger than the combined economies of the eurozone countries by the end of 2012, and will overtake the US by the end of 2016”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/09/china-overtake-us-four-years-oecd

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:49 #
  20. Sweettruth

    @rollcall

    As per your statement:

    “The Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) said China's economy will be larger than the combined economies of the eurozone countries by the end of 2012, and will overtake the US by the end of 2016”.

    1. Still 70% Chinese and Indian population cannot afford to go overseas.

    2. 80% Chinese and Indian population cannot have access to decent healthcare.

    3. Pollution in both India and China is 15 times worst than a European city. I have been to Beijing and every second person wears nose mask in that city. I am not sure about Mombay city but I have heard pollution is one of the worst in the world.

    Are you planning to move to China?
    Would you send your kids to China for higher education?
    When would you stop US bashing?

    Look at the bigger picture; and do not get impressed with few wealthy individuals getting richer and richer. This is the main problem with Asian mentality where people get impressed with the wealth of few individuals.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:59 #
  21. rollcall

    @Sweettruth

    As per your statement:

    “The Paris-based Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) said China's economy will be larger than the combined economies of the eurozone countries by the end of 2012, and will overtake the US by the end of 2016”.

    ==============================

    It's not my statement, this is the prediction of world’s very important Paris based economic cooperation group called "Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)".

    You can forward all your facts highlighted in your previous post about China and India to OECD and request them to reverse their statement/prediction.

    I am posting news link again for your second look.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/09/china-overtake-us-four-years-oecd

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 13:18 #
  22. Hussain Farooqui

    There has been very pro-Bharat and anti-China propagandas in the Western media. The West tried to strengthen Bharat against China. No doubt' Bharat grew up as a powerful country in terms of economy and industrial centre. However, China grew up much greater than Bharat.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 13:23 #
  23. Sweettruth

    @rollcall ji

    Thank you. I know it is not your statement but it is over-statement and pure media hype. Ground realities are however different. I have been to China and I can tell you it is gonna take them another 50 years to get where United States is today. You may find fastest numbers of Billionaires in India and China but what about their multi-billion population which is still living in terrible poverty.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 13:42 #
  24. wsheikh

    Economy is just one of the factor that determines whether a country is a super power or not. It is possible that a country supersedes USA in terms of raw economic power and not be a super power.

    The greatest factor that makes a nation a super power is its ability to attract hard working and sharp people from other parts of the world. They give the same opportunities to these people that they give to the natives. In turn these people work their guts out and contribute to the greatness of the nation.

    Since the start of the 19th century, the USA is a magnet for people who want to live their dream and make something out for themselves. They are the real reason for its technological dominance.

    Lots of people say China is the next super power. Well, its not. Its not even close to the US.

    Tell me. Millions of people from China would like to leave it and immigrate to USA and seek opportunities there. Would any one from the US would want to go to China and make it his/her permanent home?

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 15:25 #
  25. Hussain Farooqui

    People get attracted for the migration to the countries where natural resources are greater in ratio of population. Japan has been the 2nd. richest country of the world, although, its natural resources are very poor in ratio of the population. China has also grown up on the lines of Japan. China does not have great natural resources in ratio of the population, but the good discipline has transformed it into a rich and developed country.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 5:29 #
  26. gulraiz55

    Pakistan will remain at the same position. Don't get excited

    Posted 2 years ago on 06 Dec 2012 1:54 #
  27. Prof.Amil Dhamakey Shah

    With all due respect people please don’t bother commenting on topics as Economy or specifically Asian dominance of global Economy.
    “Pakistan will remain at the same position. Don't get excited”
    Lots of people say China is the next super power. Well, it’s not. It’s not even close to the US.
    Such brain farts expose’s your mental paralysis people so stick to your petty issues like who is granting immigration status easily, how easy it to get food stamps, Medicare and how easy it is to get IRS tax return with bogus claims blah blah ….
    Ahh IPHONE AND GOOGLE ANDROID alright
    So first of all in which country every single part of Iphone is manufactured and assembled? UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? Or in Asia (CHINA /TAIWAN)…?
    Who wrote basic programming codes of Android platform? Larry Page and Sergey Brin themselves right let’s see what will happen if all Chinese Indian and Pakistani Apache and Linux kernel engineer’s leave Android at same time….it will be interesting. Same goes for Apple IOS same goes for CISCO and HP….
    Now I don’t like posting links here but to get you out from your mental paralysis
    CHINA AND INDIA combine are producing more engineer’s then all western countries
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bccf887c-a223-11de-9caa-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2EFcloRh6

    Asian, European and US exports

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/images/chart261112a.gif

    China's exports to Asia vs USA

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/images/chart261112b.gif

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/NK27Dj02.html

    "What does the United States have to offer Asians?
    It is borrowing $600 billion a year from the rest of the world to finance a $1.2 trillion government debt, most prominently from Japan (China has been a net seller of Treasury securities during the past year).
    It is a taker of capital rather than a provider of capital.
    It is a major import market but rapidly diminishing in relative importance as intra-Asian trade expands far more rapidly than trade with the United States.
    And America's strength as an innovator and incubator of entrepreneurs has diminished drastically since the 2008 crisis, no thanks to the Obama administration, which imposed a steep task on start-up businesses in the form of its healthcare program.

    Washington might want to pivot towards Asia. At Phnom Penh, though, Asian leaders in effect invited Obama to pivot the full 360 degrees and go home."

    Posted 2 years ago on 06 Dec 2012 6:58 #
  28. Hussain Farooqui

    China, Malaysia and Bharat are fast growing economies of Asia.

    Posted 2 years ago on 06 Dec 2012 7:05 #
  29. wsheikh

    China among world's most unequal countries: Survey

    China’s wealth gap has widened to a level where it is among the world’s most unequal nations, a Chinese academic institute said in a survey, as huge numbers of poor are left behind by the economic boom.

    Source: http://tribune.com.pk/story/477690/china-among-worlds-most-unequal-countries-survey/

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Dec 2012 10:55 #
  30. Javed Sheikh

    Quote:
    'China, Malaysia and Bharat are fast growing economies of Asia.'

    If this statement is correct---
    Then----that could be due to non interference of Religion into Politics.
    Our Scholars talk much about the progress of China, Korea, Japan, India and Malaysia-------
    But ignore to highlight a liberal social and cultural attitude of government and population.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Dec 2012 11:03 #
  31. Hussain Farooqui

    Jave Sheikh Sahab

    Bharati politics is heavily dominated by fanatic Hindus. BJP is a fanatic Hindu organizaiton. BJP has often won elections against Congress.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Dec 2012 5:43 #
  32. Sweettruth

    Pakistan can only make economic progress if political molvis are confined to their mosques and madrassas.

    Religion and State affairs MUST be separated from Pakistani society if it has to make any noticeable progress.

    Majority of Molvis are against women's education and no society can make any progress without educating its 100% children population.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Dec 2012 21:21 #
  33. Diwana

    Remember Sweetruth

    جس نے کسی بھی ملک کا نمک کھایا یا کھا رہا ہے اور اسکی بد
    خواہی کرتا ہے تو وہ 'نمک حرامی' کے زمرے میں آئے گا

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Dec 2012 23:08 #
  34. Hussain Farooqui

    The problems is not with only the political mullahs. All the sections of our life like judiciary, civil service and army generals are extremely corrupt.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Dec 2012 8:01 #
  35. Sweettruth

    @HF

    Why Pakistani public stand against corrupt officials?

    There is so much talk of jihad in Pakistani society; why don't they do jihad against corruption?

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Dec 2012 8:29 #
  36. Hussain Farooqui

    The so called jihadis were defenders of the American interests during the cold war between America and Russia. American supported them to build an iron wall against the growing communist influence. America toppled ZA Bhutto's govt. with the help of the same political mullahs. These political mullahs are not indigenously grown. These mushrooms were grown up to defend the interests of the capitalist block.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Dec 2012 7:50 #
  37. rollcall

    UK heading for triple-dip recession as GDP shrinks 0.3% in fourth quarter:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/25/uk-triple-dip-recession-gdp

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Jan 2013 18:48 #
  38. rollcall

    Economic growth in China, India likely to quicken:

    (Reuters) - Emerging economies will lead growth in 2013 as the global economic outlook remains challenged by the euro zone's debt crisis and high unemployment in the United States, according to a report released on Wednesday.

    Growth rates in and around Europe look weak over the next 12 months with an expected expansion of 0.2 percent in the eurozone and 1.1 percent in the United Kingdom, according to Grant Thornton's quarterly International Business Report.

    Economic growth in the United States remains weak and unemployment high, while growth rates in China are expected to pick up to 8.2 percent in 2013 from 7.8 percent, while India is expected to quicken to 6.0 percent and Brazil to grow 4.0 percent.

    Business optimism in Brazil, Russia, India and China, also known as BRIC countries, increased in the fourth quarter of last year.

    The survey of 3,200 business leaders in 44 countries found that optimism in the BRIC economies, all deemed to be at a similar stage of newly advanced economic development, has increased to 39 percent in the last quarter of 2012 compared with 34 percent one year earlier.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/01/24/emerging-growth-survey-india-china-bric-idINDEE90M0J820130124

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Jan 2013 18:53 #
  39. Sweettruth

    Economic/industrial growth in China and India is very impressive and these two countries are economic super powers of the region in coming years.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Jan 2013 0:26 #
  40. rollcall

    China trade now bigger than US

    China has leapfrogged the US to become the world’s biggest trading nation, bringing an end to the US’s post-war dominance of global commerce.

    The total value of US exports and imports in 2012 was $3.82 trillion (£2.4 trillion), the US Commerce Department has revealed. China’s customs administration has already announced that the country’s total trade last year was worth $3.87 trillion.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9860518/China-trade-now-bigger-than-US.html

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 Feb 2013 11:24 #
  41. EasyGo

    So we have a new competitor in the market. "Huawei" from China is overtaking the apple and samsung very fast. Prices in manay cases are less than even the half with a matching quality.

    Huawei unveils Ascend P6, world's slimmest smartphone
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jun/18/huawei-ascend-p6-slimmest-smartphone

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Jun 2013 21:35 #
  42. gulraiz55

    Asia is next economic power, not Pakistan. In fact it will drag down the Asian economics

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Jun 2013 2:33 #
  43. EasyGo

    بھائی میرے خیال میں دنیا زیادہ دیر تک ایک سپر پاور کے ساتھہ نہیں چل سکتی، دو طاقتور ایک دوسرے پر آٹو چیک ہوتے ہیں

    پاکستان کی خیر ہے رینگتے رینگتے اس وقت تک چلتا ہی رہے تو یہی بڑی بات ہے

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Jun 2013 4:41 #
  44. EasyGo

    The corporate and business world is counting on emerging markets and so is being urged and explained by these speakers at London School of Economics.

    Opinion of 'asli gora' James Wolfensohn starting around 45:30 is noteworthy.

    And his mention of Pakistan may have a saltish taste for few
    :)

    Now one should listen to unnamed internet scholars or such original experts.
    :)

    Reflections on a Changing World: 1950-2050

    Recorded on 29 May 2013 in Old Theatre, Old Building.

    Published on 3 Jun 2013

    Speaker(s): Sir James Wolfensohn, Professor Amartya Sen
    Chair: Professor Lord Stern

    James Wolfensohn was the ninth president of the World Bank.

    Amartya Sen is professor of economics at Harvard University and recipient of the 1998 Nobel Prize in Economics. He is an honorary fellow of LSE.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Jun 2013 8:26 #

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