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At least 20 activists killed in Israel Navy clashes onboard Gaza aid flotilla

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  1. Story Highlights

    <>Confrontation took place in international waters
    <>Israeli Army claims passengers opened fire
    <>Flotilla had reportedly changed course to avoid confrontation
    <>Unofficial reports put death toll at between 14 and 20

    Israel Navy troops opened fire on pro-Palestinian activists aboard a six-ship aid flotilla sailing for the Gaza Strip early Monday, killing at least 10 and wounding several others after the convoy ignored orders to turn back.
    The Israeli military said 10 activists were killed after its troops came under fire while intercepting the convoy. Unofficial reports put the death toll at between 14 and 20.
    Turkey's NTV said over 60 were also wounded after Israel Defense Forces vessels stormed the flotilla in international waters.

    "Our initial findings show that at least 10 convoy participants were killed," an army spokesman said.
    The military said in a statement: "Navy fighters took control of six ships that tried to violate the naval blockade (of the Gaza Strip) ... During the takeover, the soldiers encountered serious physical violence by the protesters, who attacked them with live fire."

    The IDF (Israeli defence Forces)earlier confirmed that two navy commandos had been wounded in fight, which apparently broke out after activists tried to sieze their weapons.
    According to the IDF, commandos who stormed the Turkish ferry Mavi Marmara, the largest vessel in the convoy, encountered violent resistance from activists armed with sticks and knives.

    Activists attacked a commando with iron bars as he descended onto the ship from a helicopter, the army said. The IDF said its rules of engagement allowed troops to open fire in what it called a "life-threatening situation".
    Elite troops from Shayetet 13, a naval commando unit, boarded the protest boats at around 4:00 A.M. Earlier Monday, Al Jazeera reported that the Gaza aid flotilla had changed course to avoid a confrontation with Israeli warships.

    The Israeli naval vessels reportedly made contact earlier with the six-ship flotilla, which is carrying 10,000 tons of humanitarian aid and supplies to Gaza.

    Some 700 pro-Palestinian activists are on the boats, including 1976 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Corrigan Maguire of Northern Ireland, European legislators and an elderly Holocaust survivor.

    The Israeli navy was operating under the assumption that the activists manning the boats would not heed their calls to turn around, and Israeli troops were prepared to board the ships and steer them away from the Gaza shores and toward the Israeli port city of Ashdod.

    Huwaida Arraf, one of the flotilla organizers, said the six-ship flotilla began the journey from international waters off the coast of Cyprus on Sunday afternoon after two days of delays. According to organizers, the flotilla was expected to reach Gaza, about 400 kilometers away, on Monday afternoon, and two more ships would follow in a second wave.

    The flotilla was fully prepared for the different scenarios that might arise, and organizers were hopeful that Israeli authorities would do what's right and not stop the convoy, one of the organizers said.

    "We fully intend to go to Gaza regardless of any intimidation or threats of violence against us," Arraf said. "They are going to have to forcefully stop us."
    After nightfall, three Israeli navy missile boats left their base in Haifa, heading out to sea to confront the activists' ships.

    Two hours later, Israel Radio broadcast a recording of one of the missile boats warning the flotilla not to approach Gaza.
    "If you ignore this order and enter the blockaded area, the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade," the radio message continued.

    The flotilla, which includes three cargo ships and three passenger ships, is trying to draw attention to Israel's three-year blockade of the Gaza Strip. The boats are carrying items that Israel bars from reaching Gaza, like cement and other building materials.
    The activists said they also were carrying hundreds of electric-powered wheelchairs, prefabricated homes and water purifiers.

    Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said that after a security check, permitted humanitarian aid confiscated from the boats will be transferred to Gaza through authorized channels. However, Israel would not transfer items it has banned from Gaza under its blockade rules. Palmor said that for example, cement would be allowed only if it is tied to a specific project.

    This is the ninth time that the Free Gaza movement has tried to ship in humanitarian aid to Gaza since August 2008.

    Israel has let ships through five times, but has blocked them from entering Gaza waters since the three-week military offensive against Gaza's Hamas rulers in January 2009. The flotilla bound for Gaza is the largest to date.
    The mission has experienced repeated delays, both due to mechanical problems and a decision by Cyprus to bar any boat from sailing from its shore to Gaza. The ban forced a group of European lawmakers to depart from the breakaway Turkish Cypriot northern part of the island late Saturday.
    Israel and Egypt imposed the blockade on Gaza after Hamas militants violently seized control of the seaside territory in June 2007.

    Israel says the measures are needed to prevent Hamas, which has fired thousands of rockets at Israel, from building up its arsenal. But United Nations officials and international aid groups say the blockade has been counterproductive, failing to weaken the Islamic militant group while devastating the local economy.

    Israel rejects claims of a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, saying it allows more than enough food and medicine into the territory. The Israelis also point to the bustling smuggling industry along Gaza's southern border with Egypt, which has managed to bring consumer goods, gasoline and livestock into the seaside strip.

    Israel has condemned the flotilla as a provocation and vowed to block it from reaching Gaza.

    Israeli military officials said they hoped to resolve the situation peacefully but are prepared for all scenarios. Naval commandos have been training for days in anticipation of the standoff. Military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity under official guidelines, said the forces would likely take over the boats under the cover of darkness.

    Mr.Palmor, Israeli spokeman of Foreign Ministary said foreigners on the ships would be sent back to their countries. Activists who did not willingly agree to be deported would be detained. A special detention facility had been set up in Ashdod.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 9:27 #
  2. A.K. I suppose we had to have this, too. the Israeli version. Sorry, friend, I don't buy it. Not a word of it. Paint it whichever way you like, the Israelis are on their way out. Worse than them on God's earth there is no one. Mind, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just stating my own views unequivocally. In my youth, I had sympathy for them. Litle by little, little by little, my eyes opened and today they have become humanity's enemy number one. But, please, to carry on being their friend. Who cares? This matter has to be settled between them and Allah Almighty alone. Or between the Muslim Ummah and their ancient enemy. I have nothing further to add.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 10:19 #
  3. MG, Sole idea is to see what is the Israeli version of the news and and then act accordingly; otherwise it will be justan exercise of ----tomic toyann..

    Daily Haaretz (leftest) in Israel is the only paper which entertains the Palestinian view point and accepts comments. We must come up with reason and logic and put them on the mat.

    Otherwise you may see the headlines of Jerusalem post;
    Barak: Gaza flotilla responsible for 15 activists killed

    Haaretz link; http://www.haaretz.com/

    Regards

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 12:08 #
  4. A.K., I still will never be able to forgive you for this, ever again. I saw this and took to my bed and have only just awakened. You can do what you like, I'd be on your side. You or anyone touch Palestine, and that's it, it's over for me. And about Haaretz, not true at all, it's the alibi paper. All pretence. A.K., I know my Palestine, as you know your Hunza. I'm very, very sad today. And this one, I fear, you'll never live down. And to think I was beginning to respect you a great deal. Don't do this to us, AK, don't. Make a clean break with them, please. Come over to our side completely. There it's just glitter, Here is where the gold lies.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 16:13 #
  5. @aaykokhar

    stop spreading these silly news....this is not the time to spread propaganda...the whole world especially da muslim worls is weeping and ppl like u are giving us da israili version of this incident...u surely arent loyal to muslims! shame on you nd alikes!

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 17:37 #
  6. People like "Aaykhokhar" are being paid for supporting Zionists!!!
    You must be ashamed of ur self!!Stop spreading such propaganda!!otherwise you shall have to pay a heavy price for it!!
    May Allah grant you Hidayah,ameen.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 17:45 #
  7. zia m
    Member

    This is a criminal act by Israel in International waters and must be condemned by all.
    The israel attcked civilians with 1000 soldiers, ships and helicopters.
    Israeli siege of Gaza must end immediately.
    Schoking live coverage of this criminal act of piracy.

    http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 18:14 #
  8. nice and astonishing to see ppl like ziam,who doesnt belong to muslim community,still in strong words condemning on these attacks by butchers like israelies on innocent ppl...which normally doesnt happen on PkPoliticsDiscuss...mostly some ppl here seem to work and write by following a specific agenda which is surely not a healthy thing for productive discussions!

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 18:23 #
  9. GM ,
    But you mistook me completely. Why would you not like to know that how the enemy of Muslims are doing....?
    If I write something here on Pk Politics; this is just local outlet or for the people like me who live abroad and come here being Pakistanis.

    I didn’t see any foreigner taking part in discussion not even Indians. (Indian Probably rarely but I know they do come at Pakistani spectators of Ghazala Khan)

    As I told you I do write in many more foreign news papers and on US websites/ forums; In context of Middle east, I already gave you a link of Daily Star Lebanon and I am writing there for years. Surely you haven’t seen that yet--- otherwise you would have not written this.

    I have been previously writing in Haaretz too, defending Hazbollah cause when there was Lebanon war going in 2006 ; so I know how they are. I am of the opinion that we must write in International papers too.

    I have been requesting many others on this forum including you; to write in; Jihad.Org. Who are our real enemy of Islam’. A full fledge post was prepared by me. “The Man who is Behind the Publication of Caricatures.

    Link: http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/the-man-who-is-behind-the-publication-of-caricatures. This was here in PK politics; the other day--- see it yourself how many people responded? Just three including me--- that too just in passing.

    This nation is on self destruction Mode; see when Ahmadies are killed; How this thread is rather buzzing and sadly---a condolence time is turned into an Anti Ahmadies thread; You too are party to it. How many replies; it has crossed all the limits. By this time it is 470 of them. Less of condolences but full of hate----just anti Ahamdiyya posts--- some 95% of them.

    Sad very sad. By now most of the participant new that I am Ahmadi; did somebody say a single world of sympathy to me: that how and how many nears and dears of mine died; rather they all engaged me as a target practice.

    None of them said a single word of sympathy. How hurt I am being a Pakistani’’’’ sad; very sad.

    Regards

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 22:58 #
  10. No, Aay Khokar, you've got this wrong from start to finish. I don't care in the least who is what. In my eyes. I love the God of Islam with my heart and my soul. From him and the teachings of the Prophet, I've learnt one thing above all: cherish the human being, cherish mankind. And, only in fourth place do you yourself come: cherish thyself as well. So, when that attack took place, I did what I could to express sympathy, understanding very little of what was going on. But one need understand nothing at all to express feeling in the loss of others. That the whole thing got out of hand, that had little to do with me. And then when I heard about what Israel had done, I was shattered and said wild things. I admit it. Well, done is done.

    Today, AK, first you should have expressed sympathy for those who died in the Israeli attack - your own may have done so as well not so long agom and if I failed to show you I felt for you in your loss, I sincerely beg your pardon and wish to make up for being so remiss now. Instead of which, you came here and opened this Haaretz thread. It was, I imagine, the reaction of a journalist. I'm not one myself, I have no such reflexes. Haaretz I know of old. Not because I've written in it like yourself. As a simple reader. It's not as bad as the Jerusalem Post, granted. But that's just a matter of a few degrees to my mind. Israel is one big right-wing and self-righteous factory. The last person I vaguely trusted there was Josi Beilin. And he too turned into one in the meanwhile, no doubt. It's Israel destroying the world, not Muslims and certainly not Pakistan.

    In conclusion, I did go and look up your link. You have to join there or something. I didn't quite understand. I even did that out of consideration for you. Now they are checking me out or something before they'll let me on. Oh, life is complicated. Do not be sad. Our hearts bleed alike when it comes to death, of our own and of others. Just remain one of us and serve no foreign power. Regards to you too.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 May 2010 23:43 #
  11. Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 2:58 #
  12. khanseena1
    Member

    @Rhyme

    "nice and astonishing to see ppl like ziam,who doesnt belong to muslim community"

    How do u know zia is not a muslim...r u privy to some information that we r not? Please elaborate...

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 3:56 #
  13. latentry
    Member

    Israeal is doing this Isreal is doing that why dont we condemn the **** who attacked a hospital yesterday. I think we should invite Israel to deal with these home grown ****. Israeal knows how to get tough

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 4:43 #
  14. hkbajwa
    Member

    It is abso-friggin-lutely the most disgusting type of action by Israel and i eagerly await the day when they get their comeuppance.

    If only these blithering idiots had accepted Hamas as the legally elected and representative government of Gaza, the situation would never have come to this.

    It's absolutely disgusting, but i am glad to say that even the most staunch supporters of Israel will not be able to defend this action for long.

    I hope and pray they see the light and back off the palestinians. Otherwise it will be their own destruction

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 5:55 #
  15. this is the first time ,that Isreal has directly confronted with Pakistan or Pakistanis ...
    and we should tell the world that its just not acceptable .
    USA should better take care of its child and keep it in his limits ...

    we all pray for the early and safe recovery of Pakistanis including Talat Hussain.

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 6:08 #
  16. Israel knows how to get tough, said someone above. Please to be disabused. Israel, like all the rest of the West, only knows how to get tough against unarmed people, women and children. We've seen this happen time and time again. Against the really armed, it slinks away with its tail between its legs. Please to stop propagating to yourself or to anyone else the tale of an invincible Israel. It's the most cowardly among "nations", if one can call them that.

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 7:04 #
  17. Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 7:56 #
  18. @AayKhokhar
    <>Confrontation took place in international waters
    <>Israeli Army claims passengers opened fire|
    What utter **** and what a sorry excuse ("Sole idea is to see what is the Israeli version of the news")

    -- There was no freaking confrontation and everyone knows that (even Israelis and/or Qaadyanis)

    -- Israeli Army can claim whatever the freak they want but no one is buying it (except may be the Israel-apologists like you and US/Canada/UK)

    @Mirza Ghalib
    "Israel, like all the rest of the West, only knows how to get tough against unarmed people, women and children. We've seen this happen time and time again. Against the really armed, it slinks away with its tail between its legs. Please to stop propagating to yourself or to anyone else the tale of an invincible Israel. It's the most cowardly among "nations", if one can call them that."
    100% on the money!

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 17:53 #
  19. Israel's foreign minister is now actually claiming that attempts to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza are "an attack on Israel's sovereignty." Is that supposed to be some kind of a joke? The only claim that I can recall that's remotely comparable is when the U.S. General serving as Commander of Guantanamo condemned suicides by three detainees there as an "act of asymmetric warfare waged against us." The U.S. and Israel are very adept at claiming victimhood: even when they're killing large numbers of civilians and locking people up in cages with no charges, they're the ones who are the suffering, wronged parties.

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/05/31/israel/index.html

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 18:07 #
  20. Thanks dildar!
    Yes -- an excellent parallel:

    when the U.S. General serving as Commander of Guantanamo condemned suicides by three detainees there as an "act of asymmetric warfare waged against us."

    The Guantanomo camp commander really DID claim that and here is a bit more complete quote:

    Rear Adm Harris said he did not believe the men had killed themselves out of despair.

    "They are smart. They are creative, they are committed," he said.

    "They have no regard for life, either ours or their own. I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."

    source

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 18:18 #
  21. Thanks, and as for above, dildar, nota, it's so beyond absurd, while one eye weeps, the other can't help but laugh.

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jun 2010 18:30 #
  22. too many threads on Israel...
    lets discuss everything there ...

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/israels-rampage-continues

    thanks
    Beenai

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jun 2010 7:07 #

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