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  1. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Gunmen have opened fire near Pakistan's army headquarters outside the capital Islamabad, military officials say.
    Intense firing is still going on after the gunmen tried to enter the heavily armed complex in Rawalpindi, where senior officers are based.
    One report suggests guards had fired at a suspected suicide bomber.
    The attack follows a series of bombings across north-western Pakistan. On Friday at least 49 people were killed in a blast in the city of Peshawar.
    The attacks come amid high security as the army prepares an operation against the Taliban in the tribal region of South Waziristan.
    High-profile targets
    Police official Mohammed Jalil told AP news agency that gunmen drove up to the army compound in a white van just before midday local time (0600 GMT).
    They took up positions and fired on the compound, security officials said. One of them threw a grenade.
    Roads to the area were sealed off and at least one helicopter was hovering over the compound, witnesses said.
    Islamist militants have carried out a number of attacks against high-profile, high-security targets in recent years.
    In March this year gunmen opened fire on a bus carrying the Sri Lankan cricket team in the city of Lahore. Six policemen and a driver were killed and several of the team were injured.
    In the same month, dozens of people were killed when a police training centre on the outskirts of the city was occupied by gunmen.

    BBC NEWS | South Asia | Shooting outside Pakistan army HQ

    DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Blasts heard in Rawalpindi as GHQ attacked

    All terrorists killed in GHQ gunbattle: ISPR - GEO.tv

    Maj Gen Athar Abbas confirmed just now that six of Pak army were "Shaheed"" in this attack and he also confirmed that two terrorist are still there in some place. A firing is reported inside GHQ just now and sound is still comming out near gate 5 of GHQ. A telephone call from someone to GEO claimed that this attack was carried out by Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan Amjad Farooqi Group. Police has already informed about this attack some three months ago.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:21 #
  2. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    This atack is condemned by all including political leaders and public.
    We are not afraid but unity is required to face this great threat.
    GEO Pakistan Attack at GHQ condemned Updated at: 1336 PST, Saturday, October 10, 2009
    ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani slammed the attack at Pakistan Army headquarters in Rawalpindi

    President Zardari in his statement said such incidents could not weaken governments’ commitment against terrorism.

    PML-N chief Mian Nawaz Sharif, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Altaf Hussain, Governor Sindh Dr. Ishratul Ibad and other leaders also condemned the incident.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:30 #
  3. amin1924
    member

    ok, now we enough justifications to launch a new military operation to support our counter parts on the other side of the border.

    تمہیں کیا خبر میرے دوستو! کہ کدھر سے کوں ہے حملہ کش۔۔۔
    میری فکر میرے شعور پر ، مرے ذوق میرے شعار پر۔۔۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:34 #
  4. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I was at a local hospital. I saw the breaking news come up.

    Geo wasn't showing the footage of the attack. It was repeating the footage of the aftermath, which was quite boring to say the least.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:49 #
  5. shriq
    Member

    As per Brigadier Saad (defence analyst) we are not sure where the mastermind is, but it is not in Pakistan.

    One thing that everyone agrees (as clear as daylight) that these elements are Pakistan's enemy.

    Second thing it has nothing to do with Islam.

    Third thing, they love their benefits/perks/dollars etc. only.

    Fourth thing, Muslims who have joined these criminals are the either:

    a. naive,
    b. dont know Islamic teachings,
    c. are under pressure,
    d. want some financial benefits only

    So sensible people should work on these lines. To counter these:
    a. (naive) Educate the people
    b. (dont know Islamic teachings) Spread true Islamic teachings to all
    c. (are under pressure) See if some criminals are forcing them, blackmailing them, abducting children etc.
    d. (want some financial benefits only) Work on the financial uplift of the people, especially in these areas.

    Respected members please give your opinions.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:51 #
  6. amin1924
    member

    Plan was already cooked up outside, what we are witnessing is the implementation of it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 9:56 #
  7. Potohari
    Blocked

    I don't agree 100% with outside hands, it is clearly an attack by lashkare janghvi which was raised to curtail so called Iranian influence in Pakistan. I think Pakistani and Indian agencies are too quick to pass the buck and blame each others without any proof.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:16 #
  8. shriq
    Member

    @Potohari,

    "clearly an attack by lashkare janghvi "

    You seem to be an expert on lashkare jhangvi (NO SARCASM INTENDED).

    What makes you think (or how you reached this conclusion) that it is lashkare jhangvi?

    If it is lashkare jhangvi, then they are trying to sink their own boat!!!!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:22 #
  9. Potohari
    Blocked

    Yes I have intrest in this group as mybrother uncovered lots of hands in this group, we lost even family members in this struggle ,this group is financed by people from India to somewhere I dare not mention. My elder brother works for our country and loves his work,salutes to heros who have dedicated their lives for the betterment of Pakistan. I think your grip on this matter is far less or I dare say negligible than mine, without disclosing too much. I say again this attack was carried out by Lashkare Jhangvi, just mark my words and read press, you will realise that I was 100% right.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:27 #
  10. shriq
    Member

    I shall not challenge your expertise on this matter. But FYI, tehrik e taliban Amjad Farooqi group has taken its responsibility.

    Is this Amjad Farooqi same as lashkare jhangvi?

    Also what would have they achieved?

    You said they are financed by India, then why you said it is not foreign hand?

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:33 #
  11. shriq
    Member

    I also salute those who are safegaurding my beloved country Pakistan

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:33 #
  12. Potohari
    Blocked

    Amjad farooqi was a gang member of Lashkare Jhangvi, this group operates in small terrorists gangs. They have trained people and security agencies are after them. Their respective families have no connection with these men as they have killed their relatives in the past. Lashkare Jhangvi + Jaishe Mohammad + Sepahae Sehaba. Money comes from Sepahe Sehaba channels, Jaish has huge kashmir trained terrorists, and Lashkare Jhanvgi has deadly weapons basically supplied by Sayaf group of Afghanistan. This is all in press, however rest assured these groups have no place in Pakistani society and will be eliminated sooner or later.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:37 #
  13. Potohari
    Blocked

    Foriegn agencies have huge intrest in Pakistan, but people who are carrying out attacks are Pakistanis and known to the agencies, and were allowed to operate in Pakistan with immunity. Just blamming India willn't solve no problems.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:41 #
  14. amin1924
    member

    Potohari,

    So what's next? Another military operation on the soil of Pakistan on Pakistanis?

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:46 #
  15. Potohari
    Blocked

    Yes precision military operations in Southern Punjab is need of time. Military is there to safe guard ordinary Pakistanis from inside threats or outside ones. It is time to have same law from Khyber to Karachi, no subsidies or otherwise. Pakistanis need a force to safeguard their lives, nations can't be held on ransom by looters, heroin smugglers, religious terrorists, or car jackers or others by differnt names. Lets be honest to ourselves and our country for once.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 10:51 #
  16. shriq
    Member

    I agree that just blaming India will not solve our problems. We have to work on the lines as I mentione above so that the outside enemies does not get inside fools, stupids, murderers:

    a. (naive) Educate the people
    b. (dont know Islamic teachings) Spread true Islamic teachings to all
    c. (are under pressure) See if some criminals are forcing them, blackmailing them, abducting children etc.
    d. (want some financial benefits only) Work on the financial uplift of the people, especially in these areas

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:05 #
  17. amin1924
    member

    add few more points to your list -plz

    e. correct govt policies so that they reflect true sentiments of people of Pakistan

    f. disallow killing of Pakistanis by missile strikes

    g. fulfill promises made so far to public

    h. get freedom from foreign influence

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:14 #
  18. shriq
    Member

    JJ thanks, actually I want forum members to write more about these.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:23 #
  19. zjshami
    Member

    "Spread true Islamic teachings"
    Do you think these terrorist groups and their sponsors have no knowledge about True Islam?
    If Taliban, Sipah e Sahaba, Jaish e Mohammad, Lashakr e Jhangavi, Jammat e Islami has no knowledge about true Islam then name the group in Pakistan who holds the torch of True Islamic Teachings?

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:48 #
  20. usman1423
    member

    Ground is ready to take another army operation.
    Allah khair kare.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:48 #
  21. latentry
    Member

    BOMB the whole NWFP and FATA thats the only solution. Start bombing tonight and dont stop for next 24 hours. Teach these MULLAHS a proper lesson. Those 4 terrorist who are killed in the attack kill all there family members to set an example. Thats the only way we can get rid of this crap

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:56 #
  22. amin1924
    member

    Now that is an extremist and a terrorist call!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 11:59 #
  23. netengr
    blocked

    Demolish Mansora the real source of promoting terrorism

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:00 #
  24. linkwheel
    Member

    LMAO!!!! 'Demolish Mansoora', Army should start a Operation in Southern Punjab Aswell but i guess it will take time and will be More Deadly.

    P.S. Where is **** Pappi and his Gang?? they haven't condemned this incident yet.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:13 #
  25. netengr
    blocked

    Is Pak army killing their own army men to justify Waziristan Operation ?

    This is just a BS propaganda of Zia and Jamatis ...This will end when we remove these Munafiq Siyasi Mulla from Pakistan .

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:39 #
  26. affan
    Member
    now,are security agencies face another threat inside of country or out side as well.why our interior ministery show the proof against india,israel and usa which they gather from boluchistan and azad area's.the ordinery pakistan like me & many to compel for this result because of blocking usa are government fail to give any statement regading of this.

    about kerry-lugar bill we are sell out our belove country to usa and intrude usa agencies to involve pakistan agency matter's or political as well.our political leader's sold out their integrity & rectitude just 1.5 billion dollar's to the usa .on the other hand our budget is 5 billion per year. could we sacrifices our soldier's and lay men live's to this 1.5 billion dollar's why this leader's create choase in the country.if our leader's so much concern about pakistan then why they bring back their billion's of
    dollar from the out side of pakistan which they have embezzle when they run the government at that time.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:42 #
  27. This thread has been merged from:
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/ghq-attack-%e2%80%93-india-strikes-again-by-zaheerul-hassan#post-86701
    Pak Truth
    Member
    At about 1130 hours on October 10, 2009, a white color Suzuki Car tried to target General Headquarters of Pakistan Army located on Mall Road Rawalpindi. According to the witness the shooting began when a carry vehicle was intercepted by army personnel for routine checking at army check post near GHQ. Four miscreants wearing camouflage uniform opened heavy and indiscriminate fire while sitting in the vehicle. According to Major General Athar Abbas brave soldiers of Pakistan Security Forces killed the terrorist and brought the situation within one hour after sacrificing their lives. The current attack is a series of Indian proxy war against Pakistan and its security Agencies.

    The proxy war started when Pakistan security forces achieved splendid victory against Swat militancy and were going to start Operation against Indian sponsored Taliban of Waziristan. It is notable here that it is third attack in two weeks or so. The current wave of sabotage activities are directly linked and sponsored by notorious South Asian agency RAW. There is a chance that RAAM is facilitating its master agency RAW. Earlier, on October 5, 2009, RAW trained terrorist blasted himself outside the UN’s World Food Programme offices in Islamabad and then again on 9 October, 2009 at least 50 people were killed and many injured in a suspected bomb blast near a market in the north-western Pakistani city of Peshawar. President Asif Ali Zardari, Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilliani and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani strongly condemned the blast and said Pakistan could not be deterred in its effort to fight extremism and terrorism and would continue its quest to bring peace by eliminating the terrorists.

    By design, there is a strong perception that attack on Kabul Embassy was launched by Indian intelligence agency to malign Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency of Pakistan. The revealed opinion proved correct after listening Afghan Ambassador T Jawad comments to USA’s statement given to the PBS news channel on October 8, 2009. In that interview he mentioned that they are pointing the finger at the Pakistan intelligence agency, based on the evidence on the ground and similar attack taking place in Afghanistan. In fact it is a proven fact that Afghanistan and its intelligence agency with the tacit support of RAW is promoting terrorism in FATA, Balochistan and interior Pakistan too. It is mentionable here that Pakistan is facing horrible foreign sponsored militancy. As a result of war against terror more than a thousand of brave Pakistani soldiers and civilians have become victim of militancy. More than 2.8 millions Individuals were internally disabled. According to the sources, the Indian Air Force has stationed its MiG 29 aircrafts at Adampur near the Pakistani border to strengthen its air defence capabilities and minimise reaction time. The deployment of MIG-29 and troops revealed that India may intensify the sabotage activities in the interior Pakistan in the near future and likely to go for Air strikes in already marked areas around GT Road. It is mentionable that BBC, on October 27, displayed a documentary movie regarding the eighth anniversary of the US-led NATO invasion of Afghanistan. It stated that now this war is being fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, and “it will soon spread in Pakistan.”

    New Delhi started this proxy war once Pakistan is on limelight as result of debate on Kerry-Luger Bill. Earlier India also rocked her Embassy at Kabul at the occasion of G-8 conference in July 2008. The nation (including Pak Army) seems united against the objectionable clauses related to Pakistan security. According to the sources John Kerry and Richard Lugar are visiting Islamabad shortly to discuss and remove the bugs and concerns of Pakistan over the bill. Hence, there are likely chances that Obama’s administration will re-evaluate and make it acceptable to Pakistani nation and security forces after removing the objectionable clauses. New Delhi never ever digested any success of Pakistani Intelligence agencies and security forces against foreign sponsored militancy and made another try to prove Pakistan as heaven for terrorists. If we visualise and read the South Asian security situation then we can say that basically India has proved herself South Asian Don and is continuously busy in storming terrorism in the region. The recent blasts point out to the Indian intelligence agency collaboration with RAAM and Mossad who collectively have seemed to plan the series of blasts in Afghanistan and Pakistan with a view to use pressure tactics and built opinion to force Washington to refrain from providing economic aid to Islamabad.

    Concluding, I must say that World community should ask India to stop backing Hindu Taliban who are playing with the lives of Innocent people. She must know that Pakistan Security Forces are alert enough to meet any kind of potent threat. We salute our forces and those soldiers who scarified their lives for the nation and their Gazi comrades.

    Potohari
    Member
    Well it seems Lashkare Janghvi which is thought to be financed by India. However Sepahe Sehaba and Lashkare Jhangvi groups were allowed to operate freely in Punjab, Sindh and other parts of Pakistan with immunity in the past. This attack reminds us terrorism is terrorism whoever is the victim doesn't matter. It is intresting to note that there is virtually no action on part of Punjab government or others to eliminate these terrorists groups from the mosques and madrassas of Southern Punjab.

    JJ Khan
    member
    Good analysis by zaheerul hassan, he connects these events with bigger picture and presents a clear picture of what is happening around us and why it is happening.

    shriq
    Member
    One roshan pehloo from this article that I see is that at least we (Pakistanis) have succeeded in countering terror in Swat at least.

    I hope that this is not the only success!

    Also we should highlight with all our resources about Hindu Taliban as he mentioned above.

    semirza
    Moderator
    @Pak Truth
    A thread was already open on the same topic 'Attack on GHQ Rawalpindi', when you posted your's on the same but as a separate thread.
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/attack-on-ghq-rawalpindi

    Kindly follow and do not ignore this instruction. Pls 'do a topic search' before opening a new thread.

    Sorry, as one similar thread has been closed so this should be also merged and closed on same grounds.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:52 #
  28. Plan is going exactly that direction which US want, you should appriciate american's brain, another happy day for Bagram air base.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 12:58 #
  29. netengr
    blocked

    Minister ,President ,Army ,Political parties and their leaders are the USA agent ..and Baitullah Mehsoud ,Qazi hussain ,HAkeem Ullah mehsoud ,Fazlullah and Muslim Khan are the loyal pakistani and muslims serving Islam and pakistan .

    This kind of concept is being feed in pakistani public .

    Lets give this country to Hakeem Ullah mehsoud and join taliban and fight against Pakistan army ...Is this the solution they have ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 13:07 #
  30. shriq
    Member

    @zjshami
    It is not for terrorists, it is for those simpletons who think their terrorist instructors are from heavens, or alim e deen. If these people know that whatever these ba....s are teaching has nothing to do with Islam then they would not follow them.

    The instructors count their dollars, and these simpletons daydream about going to heaven (after the suicide attacks).

    We can not rely on any group, you and I are muslims, we together should tell people what we should believe and how to act and react according to Islam. Lets not wait for some group.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 13:08 #
  31. @netengr
    I had to delete that but what is it that you mention about the addresses.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 13:32 #
  32. Is it about the merged thread with posts? Than I have deleted them also. Sorry for the inconvience.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 13:48 #
  33. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    It is not finished yet, Firing is heard now inside GHQ. Yet not over, Different news spread in city.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:19 #
  34. May be they want this to continue within the city itself. As far as GHQ is concerned, that is over.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:25 #
  35. zjshami
    Member

    http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/oct2009-daily/10-10-2009/u7916.htm

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:29 #
  36. zingaro
    Member

    There have been so many comments from various corners. But I would like to share two view points one of them was uttered by Mr. Rehman today.

    1- Mr. Rehman said that all the blasts are sponsored by India through people in Wazirastan.

    2- Before a few days Army opposed Kerry Lugar bill, hence, it is a message for army that if they will oppose them, they may face such consequences.

    Well most of the experts are united on one point that it was certainly a message to the Army. Now who can give them such message? Certainly there are not friends of Pakistan or well wishers of Pakistan. They are the people who always strive to work for the destruction of our country in social and economical modes. Two Ex- Chiefs of intelligence agencies, have also pointed out that whenever there was an attack on Indian councils or embassies in Afghanistan, it was paid back in Pakistan, despite that now Pakistan does not have interference in Afghanistan as NATO, and India herself is present there.

    We must need to keep our airs and brains open and eyes vigilant. Islamabad police has also found the house where these terrorists used to live for last 4 months. It is the area of "Dhok Awan" in Rawalpindi. These guys were living there and had least interaction with the community. I would say that we should also remain alert of such people if we notice them in our surroundings.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:33 #
  37. @zingaro
    Just now Rahman Malik on ARY news in a talk show claimed that we should be vigilant of our surroundings. He quoted an example that someone had reported a couple of men living in a house while 'roti' enough for sixty men was going into the house. They pounced and were able to nab a whole group that was living there.
    Was he refering to Dhok Awan you are refering in your post?

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:39 #
  38. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    That is not over yet, Two fleeing terrorist are there inside some building. Firing is being heard many times. May be some hostages......
    Reports of some high ranks shahdat are also there

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:44 #
  39. Nothing is here on ARY or GN. Some talk shows are being aired but not the news as you say two are bunkered in a building!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 14:48 #
  40. expakistani
    Member

    those army walas and agencies ike ISI IB MI ...
    what kind of job they doing?
    when this guy Rehman Malik going to resign ?

    sad sad situation in pakistan

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:07 #
  41. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    ISPR has now confirmed, They are inside security office of GHQ and there are too many hostages.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:17 #
  42. Army walas are doing what ever they are able to do and we have seen that as of today shown by media. We are confident that people like Rahman Malik will be brought to the book also in case they have an objectionable past.

    Here army itself was a target as claimed by a talban group.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:21 #
  43. @Anwer Kamal
    Kindly provide a link pls.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:23 #
  44. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    That is news on TV chanels Live
    ARY news. They are also reffering to ISPR that terrorists are more than 2

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:24 #
  45. Yes, Express News is relaying that 'there may be more than two persons and they have SOME security personal as hostages. The news also says they have been surrounded.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:29 #
  46. tahir001
    Member

    India having self staged Bombay attack, and accusing ISI for two attempted attacks on their embassy in Kabul (2nd one just two days ago) is sending a clear signal by hitting GHQ, that they have the reach and ability to pay in kind. I am sure our present government and Rehman Malik has played a hidden facilitating hand in this as well to tell armed forces, guys hands off Zardari. I do not see any other plausible scenario.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:33 #
  47. It can also be taken as a 'backup to excuse' blackwater presence in Pakistan as claimed by a taliban faction showing that taliban is still very much active therefore such agencies and NGOs could continue protecting foreign dignitaries and VIPs in Pakistan.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 15:49 #
  48. zingaro
    Member

    @semirza .. when i wrote this i did not know if Rehman Malik has also said so. What i said was a logical indication. But i don't think that he referred to Dhok Awan because this group was not caught in the house but 4 of them killed while attack on GHQ and 2 are still surrounded (i don't know the latest).

    Secondly I feel that our intelligence agencies are quite capable of assessing such possible attacks, if they are let to do their actual job instead of serving other objectives.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 16:29 #
  49. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan gunmen 'take hostages'

    BBC say Reuters say there are hostages.

    "They are holding some of our soldiers," one official told Reuters news agency.
    "It's a hostage situation. They're demanding the release of some of their fellows," another official said.

    Mehsood Group also taken responcibility of attack vide a telephone call.

    ISPR is confirming report of hostages on GEO also.

    Street lights in the area are off. It is dark there in GHQ now.

    An operation is expected .

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 16:32 #
  50. zingaro
    Member

    thanks AK for the update. i will check on BBC now .

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Oct 2009 16:37 #

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