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AZAM SWATI Of PTI, "100,000 People From KPK Alone" In Jalsa.

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  1. Good Guy
    Member

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pg9t_5Gt7LM

    (1)
    One million people must be on street as PTI is claiming. And to be on street, people must be out side the given place, because it can't absorbed one million. Where more than 50,000 chairs were arranged. This ground can hold 2 lacs people, if it is full. One million people means, streets around this venue will observe 5 more grounds,if it was 1 million.

    (2)
    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=84037&Cat=4&dt=12/25/2011
    SWATI said the PTI’s public rally of December 25 would be 100,000 people from Khyber Pakhtun khwa (KPK) alone would attend the rally, just 24 hours ago before JALSA in a press conference.

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:06 #

  2. qaisernadeem
    Member

    100k people from KPK teleported to Karachi from KPK, right? Seems totally plausible!

    Anyway, it's a useless thread, must be merged with other numerous threads about the same issue!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:10 #

  3. siddiqi73
    Member

    @QN,

    Even people from far flung countries like Bhutan, Nepal, Gabon, Papua New Guinea; just to name a few came in droves to attend the carnival yesterday.....happy!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:12 #

  4. pak1stani
    Blocked

    @Sidqqui
    You forgot to mention Saudi Arabia

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:14 #

  5. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi Bhai,

    Did you go? It would've soothed your nerves a bit? Our doors would always remain open for our fellow countrymen!

    :)

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:15 #

  6. mariabashir
    Member

    @siddiqi73
    Lol!
    I'm thankful that you didn't name naptune ,pluto & uranus.

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:17 #

  7. qaisernadeem
    Member

    There are people on Neptune, Pluto and Uranus?

    PMLN can keep the ones from Uranus, we'll take Pluto and Neptune!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:18 #

  8. sandman
    Member

    "PMLN can keep the ones from Uranus,"

    LOL, I haven't heard that joke for years!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:20 #

  9. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Maria,

    The martians on those planets are actually waiting for a expedition space craft from PTI to land there so that a formal invitation can be extended to join PTI.

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:12 #

  10. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Qaisar Bhai,

    Would have loved to be soothed but I'm rather thick skinned. Besides, with all the people being pushed into the internet tehreek, your leader would soon need to subscribe to Prozac just so that he can put up with every second person who would be a PM aspirant ;)

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:14 #

  11. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi bhai,

    Truly democratic and pluralistic parties always have more than one PM candidate otherwise they become dynasties and fall prey to nepotism. Meritocracy within the party leads to meritocracy in the government when it comes in power!

    :)

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:19 #

  12. siddiqi73
    Member

    Truly democratic! Now now Qaisar, you seem like an erudite fella and should realize that a pluralistic party ought to have party elections in the first place in order to elect a deserving head of the party. When was the last party election held in PTI?

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:21 #

  13. Good Guy
    Member

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    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:27 #

  14. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi Bhai,

    Elections would be held once party organization is complete. BTW, party organization was complete in Balochistan and elections were held, similarly in US, Europe and Canadian chapters have all elected members. PTI would hold it's first national convention in the summer of 2012 where elections would be held for all party designations. All current postings are temporary and based on merit!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:45 #

  15. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Qaisar Bhai,

    Once the process is complete, only then we should talk about democracy, pluralism and merit; shall we?

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:55 #

  16. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi bhai,

    At least the process has started, and not only for PTI but for PMLN also. Now, it's a different matter that our trajectory is towards the top and PMLN's, well, let's say things aren't looking good, not one bit!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:58 #

  17. siddiqi73
    Member

    Hehehehehehe......Bro, a World War II era Hawker Spitfire with a retrofitted F-16 engine can only go vertical for a very short distance. After that, not only would it stall but the wooden fuselage would just crack open due to sheer velocity of an engine that it cannot support.

    We are just happy that y'all are happy for the time being. After a little while when the dust settles and your leader is left with running PTI (Haquiqi), you'd realize would a bundle movie that was.

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 16:07 #

  18. qaisernadeem
    Member

    I think you know the calibre of Javed Hashmi, Inamul Haq and Ayaz Amir. I sure as heck know the calibre of Zahid Hamid, Sumaira Malik and Kashmala Tariq et al.

    Now gauge the trajectory!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 16:42 #

  19. siddiqi73
    Member

    I bet that the likes of Tareens, Kasuris, Ghulam Sarwars, Laghari brothers, bhinders, Jazis and Khokhars wil propel your tiny space rocket into another galaxy ;)

    You should have mentioned the name of Marvi Memon as well since your leader tried his best to rope her in but she let the cat out of the bag by claiming that Ustad Tabla Master will be going into an alliance with Establishment Khan hence she realized that this CHANGE is phony.

    Now gauge the smell of the coffee!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 17:01 #

  20. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi Bhai,

    Marvi Memon is a godsend angel who did not vigorously defend Mush, eh?

    Why is she still talking to Mush when she claims to have changed since than? And more importantly why is she hanging out with PMLN and talking to Mush at the same time?

    Also, please note what Javed Hashmi said after Hamid Mir asked him about this issue. Javed Hashmi right away called Imran Khan after Marvi fed him this BS and asked Imran if PTI has any contacts with Mush and Imran assured Javed Hashmi that there will be no contact between Mush and PTI and rather PTI will prosecute him for breaking the constitution if PTI comes in power.

    Mush is a lying trashbag, and Marvi is talking to him and also hangs out with PMLN, what that does that tell you?

    Also, doesn't PMLN have a policy that everyone from Q-league is acceptable to them except Choudhry Bros? If so than isn't all your criticism on PTI for accepting ex-PMLQ members a mere rhetoric with any solid conviction behind it?

    Now wake up and smell the coffee, please!

    p.s. Our doors and arms are wide open, should you decide to jump the sinking titanic!

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 17:10 #

  21. shamwariz
    Member

    I dont know from where where people came but aleast

    I saw lots of Hooors dancing in Jalsa.
    suely people from jannat were there

    along with Bhutan, Nepal, Gabon, Papua New Guinea Neptune, Pluto and Uranus

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 17:16 #

  22. siddiqi73
    Member

    That tells me that Marvi knows the truth and poor Hashmi has been had it. If Mush is a lying trash bag and will be prosecuted, than why did Humayun Gohar write his new published book and who'd forget "Sheroo."

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 17:53 #

  23. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Sham,

    Along with the people sent on the instructions from the sector offices of a certain political party of Karachi ;)

    Posted 4 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 17:54 #

  24. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Still weighting for anyone in PMLN to justify the policy that everyone is acceptable from PMLQ except Ch Bros?

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 4:46 #

  25. gujjartalwar
    Member

    "everyone is acceptable from PMLQ except Ch Bros?"

    I think it is very straight forward. PMLN gave both Chaudhries' top ministerial slots in both terms in power but hey were instrumental in assisting Musharraf's coup.

    If PMLN harbors them in their ranks, they are quite likely to strike again.

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:00 #

  26. qaisernadeem
    Member

    So what's with all the hoolabaloo when PTI accepts PMLQ members?

    It's pure electoral politics at the end of the day, right?

    p.s. BTW, my emphasis was on accepting PMLQ members, not on why Choudries are left out.

    :)

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:01 #

  27. gujjartalwar
    Member

    Your emphasis was not obvious but the answer again is the simple. If you have to recruit the same old PMLQ stock, where is this revolution thing that you honk so much about.

    You are just another party with a boss who has not even run Union Council as an elected official. The second line of leadership seems to be a lot of big name misfits from other parties.

    Please don't drum up the charity work. It is easy to run. If you run short, you simply have to ask for more donations.

    In a public office, you have to use limited public funds to satisfy competing demands.

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:18 #

  28. qaisernadeem
    Member

    It still didn't answer my question, in fact a lame attempt of spinning the issue was carried out in vain.

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:20 #

  29. gujjartalwar
    Member

    Ok, please ask you question again.

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:23 #

  30. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Qaisar,

    Bro, lets cut to the chase and let me ask you something which isn't so monotonous. Would Chaudhry Matti Pao and Pervaiz Elahi be acceptable to PTI?

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 5:56 #

  31. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Siddiqi Bhai,

    Absolutely not, they are not acceptable to us at all. But the point is that most of the rest of them are much like PMLN. The reason is plain and simple, Chouderies have ruined themselves with their Machiavellian politics. In fact they are not even electables now hence worthless, Ch Shujaat lost his seat in Gujarat and Ch Pervaiz Elahi won from Chakwal because of some invisible hand perhaps.

    Now, for a second let's forget our political affiliations and think about it, I personally don't see anything wrong with inducting these politicians in political parties whether it was PMLN, PTI or PPP.

    PTI saw a political opportunity and capitalized on it by raking in PMLQ politicians, it provided a big boost to this wave of popularity that PTI enjoys.

    Similarly, PMLN has opened the flood gates which were shut down for past 4 years, but is it the good old case of "too little too late" which has been haunting PMLN since it's inception? That remains to be seen!

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 6:37 #

  32. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qaisar Bahi,

    probably its coming to same point what we were disucssing yeterday.

    After accepting cleany people lik leghari , whats wrong with Ch.Pervaiz Elahi. As CM punjab he was pretty efficent. Wasn't he ?

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 6:42 #

  33. zingaro
    Member

    جاوید ہاشمی نے واضح انداز میں کہا ہے کہ جب ماروی نے کہا کہ مشرف بھی عمران سے مل رہا ہے تو ہاشمی نے اُسی وقت سعد رفیق کے گھر سے عمران کو کال کی اور پوچھا تو عمران نے کہا کہ ایسا نہ تو ہو رہا ہے نا ہوگا اور ماروی کو ایسا نہیں کہنا چاہئے تھا۔ میرا خیال ہے ماروی نون لیگ جائن کر رہی ہے اسلئے وہ ہاشمی صاحب کو روکنا چاہ رہی تھی ۔ وگرنہ آپ بتائیے جو خاتون مشرف سے براہ راست رابطے میں رہتی ہو اُس کا سعد رفیق کے گھر میں کیا کام؟ ہے نا سوچنے والی بات؟

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 6:47 #

  34. qaisernadeem
    Member

    @SA Bhai

    I think I explained it very well as to why we shouldn't accept Choudries.

    In politics, like in many other aspects of life, one has to weigh in negatives and positives when making a decision. In Choudries' case, negatives heavily out weigh positives.

    Also, keep this rule in mind and think why PTI will never accept Mush in it's ranks or go for an alliance with him. And why PMLN is hell bent on linking Mush with PTI?

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 6:48 #

  35. qaisernadeem
    Member

    وگرنہ آپ بتائیے جو خاتون مشرف سے براہ راست رابطے میں رہتی ہو اُس کا سعد رفیق کے گھر میں کیا کام؟ ہے نا سوچنے والی بات؟

    A million dollar question!!

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 6:51 #

  36. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qisaar Bahi,

    Probably , after i missed your point completely because when i quoted SC verdict of steel mill case verdict pointing Mr. Clean 'Awais Ahmed Leghari' , u didn't respond.

    here is the link

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/ik-doesnt-like-chshujjat#post-292899

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 7:13 #

  37. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    For your coveninece , i m producing an excrpet of SC verdict.

    i) The stock in trade in the Unit worth about Rs.10 billion, to
    be handed over to the purchaser.

    ii) The cash worth about Rs.8.559 billion lying in its account,
    out of which post dated cheques of about Rs.7.67 billion
    have already been issued to clear the liability of loans,
    which were due from the year 2013 to 2019.

    ii) The Tax of Rs.3 billion has already been paid, out of
    which Rs.1 billion will be refunded to the purchaser on
    taking the possession of the Unit.

    iv) Total loss to Government in this way works out to
    Rs.18 billion (net) [7.67+10.00+1.00].

    v) Above all, the Government has accepted the liability
    to pay compensation of about Rs.15 billion to the
    worker as Golden Hand Shake Scheme, which will be
    another loss to the State

    Please note that total sale price was 22 B determined , negotiated by ministry led by Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Khan Leghari'.

    Sir jee , kutch khiyal karrain.

    Posted 4 months ago on 27 Dec 2011 7:20 #

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