Babaric police torture on Egyptian female protestor !

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Babaric police torture on Egyptian female protestor !

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aneeza4u
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Simply Disgusting !

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 5:29 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

The countdown process of the Egyptian and Syrian regimes have started. Their savagery can't stop it. They don't realize that their savagery will be reciprocated by a propionate degree of punishment at the end of their regimes.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 6:02 #
anyname
Member

Good to see you SP. Should it not be Barbaric?

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 10:45 #
scandinavian
Member

@HF

True. This kind of violence will bounce back. We, in Pakistan allowed the lawyers movement to be high jacked by the opportunist jackal Nalaik Sharif.

The Egyptian people have already made immense sacrifices and they must NOT leave the battle field. It will cost further sweat and BLOOD before victory is achieved. I am sure the Egyptian army is not going to call it a day. The fight will be long and BLOODY!

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 11:41 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

Lets settle our own home first

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 11:44 #
Ghost Protocol
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Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 11:46 #
stingingnettle
Member

So when the Israelis do this to the Palestinians, you complain about it. It's not about the garb of faith you wear from day to day but the inherent brutality you are born with.

It is particularly sickening that whilst the unarmed protesters offered no resistance, they were, beaten with mind numbing savagery. The worst thing is not the beating but the fact that the animals who committed this act of incredible cruelty will not face justice. Welcome to Egypt!

We must join our voices and demonstrate our total intolerance towards state brutality towards its citizens.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 17:17 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

"but the inherent brutality you are born with"

Nettle You are unconsciously going into unchartered territory of faith by such statements. No one is born with brutal instinct. It is quite the contrary. Fitra as it is called in arabic/urdu is natural inborn instinct and is pure as a spring water. There are 4 factors that inculcate brutal charaterstics in one's behavior.

1) Parents
2) Friends
3) Shaitaan
4) Environment/circumstances

All of these have to do with the authorities in power who keep the masses including parents, friends in perpetual ignorance by their "brutal" rule. and then the corrupt environment is accelerated towards brutality with the help of ever present Shaitaan in our midst who is waiting to ambush us at every chance.

Please note that the Creator has created every human being in state of innocense. Muslim unlike other faiths believe that every child is born a Muslim until he or she reaches age of puberty and the factors that I mentioned above make him a atheist or polytheist. If someone says that humans are born with brutal instinct, God forbid it is like challenging the ability of Creator in creating perfect human being and is tantamount to blasphemy.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 17:51 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

Now that your sermonising is over; care to express an opinion about the subject of the thread.

I am all ears.

When I need a sermon, I will do my own reading, but thanks anyway.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 18:52 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

Have we forgotten so soon how the army annulled the elections in which Islamists had won landslide elections in Algeria. The West threw its weight behind the military junta and conveniently forgot the slogan of democracy as if it is not meant to fucntion when Islamists are winners. It was followed by a reign of terror and still army is weilding power.

Same scenario seems to be unfolding in Egypt and the masses need to be extra vigilant.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 19:17 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehaman;

I take your point about Algeria and the annulment of the elections there. It is a shameful chapter in the history of those western democracies that supported the military take over. Yes, the military in Egypt is the disease not the cure or part of the solution.

Here is a question for you, what do you think is the likely religion of those who were beating the living day lights out of the helpless woman and other protesters in Tahrir Square?

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 22:40 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

Same religion as Pharoah. Having names Mubarak, Tantawi, Ganzouri does not mean they are Muslims.

The latest twist these uniformed maniacs are spreading is that the woman that was taped in video has loose moral character as if it is justified to beat the crap out of that woman.

Posted 5 months ago on 19 Dec 2011 22:58 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

This is the difficulty I have with your argument; when it suits you, you excommunicate people from the folds of the one true faith simply because you can't explain away the behaviour of its followers. Do you not see the grave danger of complacency and fatalism in your line of argument?

The savages meting out the reprehensible 'froonee' punishment and those at the receiving end are most likely to be muslims. This is the distasteful truth. This is the truth you can't handle.

"The latest twist these uniformed maniacs are spreading is that the woman that was taped in video has loose moral character as if it is justified to beat the crap out of that woman."

It is the same muslims that are coming up with lies to cover their tracks but at least it gives us something to agree on. What you say in above paragraph has my full agreement.

Posted 5 months ago on 20 Dec 2011 19:23 #
NNL
member

You wanted Democracy right !!!

The freedom had nothing to do with Islam right !!!

Well if you remove Islam from the equation what do you have left in the Land of Firaun ?

The Rule of Firaun !!!!

Enjoy it!!!!

I wonder what Azhar University is saying ? Cos arent they supposed to be the Voice of Muslims and Islam for the Western Hemisphere.......

Khawarij/Muslim Brotherhood are now in power and it will get worse for the people of Eygpt.

That was insane torture and the men who did it should have their balls ripped out along with those men who were guardians for these women for leaving them alone and bringing them into such a venerable place which threatened their very fabric of life.

Lanat hai us mardangi per jo auratoun ko ghar ki zeenat balkey baazar ka chiragh bana ka khush hoti.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 0:59 #
jabalultariq
Member

All acts of barbarism are wrong.....you have to be an angel to have POWER & CONSTRAINT or you need KHAUF-e-KHUDA. Its human nature to abuse power , at best we can do is to restrain these POWER MONGERS through these messages and with media's help. Thanks for putting this up !

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 15:03 #
stingingnettle
Member

NNL

"...along with those men who were guardians for these women for leaving them alone and bringing them into such a venerable place which threatened their very fabric of life."

This is a hugely flawed assessment of culpability. Lawful protest is the right and duty of all muslims not just men. The place was as vulnerable for men as it was for women as you can see from the beating received by the man in the clip. The fabric of life is matter up of tougher material and I can suggest the reaction of most reaction of head-in-sand muslims; the perpetrators of such mindless and vulgar violence are not muslims. Here is the truth, not only the protester are muslims but so are those beating them senseless. Even worse, those giving orders for this shameful and savage beatings of unarmed protesters, are also muslims. So lets kill the delusion to start with if we are to have any chance of understanding this power trip and tyranny but the police and their masters.

It's the brute within that is responsible rather that without. This is the brutal truth.

Women do not need herding, they have a voice and they are equally responsible for what is right or wrong about society. So lose the patronising words.

Please don't confuse religion with lawful behaviour and morality especially when it comes to the state. That would be madness.

It's not democracy that is as fault but factors you have no chance of understanding sitting in your self-referential circle of faith.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 16:44 #
stingingnettle
Member

jabalultariq

The key is accountability if any lesson are to be learnt.

Now I am at loss for words properly?

Without accountability, we are living in the land of the blind where the roads are paved with potholes.

Can you 'see' my point?

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 16:47 #
NNL
member

Again only dumbasses stand infront of the Train and shout its their right to stand anywhere and everywhere.

If you want to protest with your women hey bring them out so most of the men can cop a feel and when the police starts a crackdown then you can see them being beaten and stuck ....

If thats what you want hey do it.

But to say that Religion is separate from Morality and Lawfulness is the stemming from the same argument of Separation of Church and State and it applies to west and not to Islam.

Quote of the Century by a ......

The place was as vulnerable for men as it was for women as you can see from the beating received by the man in the clip.

Buddy if someone brought the women of their house out in the open street then its their responsibility to protect them and their honor. Or have the guts to endure and withstand any and everything to protect the honor and virtue of the women of their household.

That statement of yours is full of cowardice and gutlessness and wimpiness.

I ashamed to even think of the possibility that i would purposefully put the women of my household in any form of danger regardless I would rather kill myself than to do nothing to prevent it.

U said Lawful protest is the right and duty of all muslims not just men.
Oh really have you one evidence remotely similar to a situation where Rasool Allaah Sallaho Alayhi wa Salaam endorse this action of protesting against the rulers or any state authority especially by women?

Lagta hai Mardangi ka matlab logon ko samaj mein nahin ata.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 17:18 #
stingingnettle
Member

NNL

Good luck with your 'mardangee'.

My point is lost in cloud of chauvinism and the insurmountable sense of self-importance you live under.

This episode has nothing to do with your or my religiosity. It's about tyranny. Think outside the circle, you may even see a glimpse of what is causing the barbarity.

Please do not become the self-appointed protector of 'sinf e (not so) nazuk', they have a brain and intelligence to ask for it if they need it.

"I ashamed to even think of the possibility that i would purposefully put the women of my household in any form of danger regardless I would rather kill myself than to do nothing to prevent it."

The issue is not what you consider exposing your family to danger, the issue is raising your voice against oppression and tyranny. The issue is the reprehensible behaviour of those in the uniform. It's not the protesters that are wrong, it's the police! Get it?

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 17:29 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

I don't know which group of women were protesting at Tahrir Square. It is sitaution where every section of society is trying to participate in the uprising. Some are secular and some are supposedly religious. But never know the sheep in the wolves clothings.

It is long way ahead. This is first time ever that the masses have come out in open against the western installed brutal dictators. This is a transitory period when all sections of the society are in the fray. The military is flexing its muscles and is the only hope of the Western sinister agenda and it remains to be seen how the scenario unfolds. It may end up like Algerian fiasco where the army annulled the elections and grabbed power.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 17:44 #
stingingnettle
Member

Abdul Rehman;

"It is sitaution where every section of society is trying to participate in the uprising."

I agree with this.

A question for you;

Does Islam prohibit or discourage women from protesting against oppression and tyranny?

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 17:48 #
NNL
member

lol

Outside the Box

I am A Muslim ( i know that word means little to you but anyways)

I am A Muslim My Box is Islam and I cant think outside the Box as the Box is where i will find my salvation......

Its not about self importantance you imbecile, its about the most basic concept of honor and dignity and responsibility.

If you can allow this to happen to your women hey kudos to you mate i pity on the women in your house for they may never meet a person who is a man and not just a male and if you are woman i feel sorry for you for that you have to conjure up an idea of what a man is or isnt for none were examples in your life.

Again the rest of your post is based on you thinking outside Islam and we have known from History that nothing good has ever come out of thinking outside of Islam.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 17:53 #
Abdul Rahman
Member

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/11469

Not exactly the same situation but gives an idea about the role of women in protesting for a worthwhile cause.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 18:06 #
stingingnettle
Member

NNL

I pity the women of your family too who, as per you, lack the intelligence and ability to speak or act against tyranny and oppression. Your sheep-herd mentality belongs to the dark ages. You must try and find the light switch sometime. You may have to switch off the autopilot button of self-righteousness first.

Sorry to cause you the sorrow of confronting you with your middle-ages ignorance.

Have a good life in your box. I will leave you to listen to the echo of your own voice shouting sweet-nothings to you. You lack to ability to have a discourse and hence you are wasting my time.

Posted 5 months ago on 21 Dec 2011 18:09 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Egyptian and Syrian governments are like 'bughtay huwayee chiraghs' let them 'bahrak'.

Posted 5 months ago on 22 Dec 2011 12:28 #