As in the previous post you mentioned that if some is abused Again than he should mention at once to block the ID.....
Here is the proof from Mulla attacking me with abusing language....and meets your criteria to Be BLOCKED NOW.......MANY THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORT...just go through the Thread Pls and........
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BEENAI Here Is the Proof......
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skyfacts
BlockedPosted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:22 # -
msohail83
MemberI agree. This abuse needs to be controlled.
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:32 # -
I asked admin to ask beenai..she has proof of your filth as well!
She has been away today thats why the clean up effort is still out there for her....
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:38 # -
skyfacts
BlockedI never use abusing Language to any one member.Even to 2 number ID's i give the same respect like 1 number.....So i am chilling......
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:41 # -
skyfacts
BlockedBut most of the original ID's want block you out.......and here i am with proofs....
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:42 # -
i never abuse anyone unless attacked! thats a rule!
your double id will be blocked just watch!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:43 # -
msohail83
Memberand your double ID is supposed to be me. haha
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:44 # -
skyfacts
BlockedYou feel honour and pride to abuse any one and immense satisfaction........
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:46 # -
yes enemy of allah and islam is a target!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:47 # -
skyfacts
BlockedAdmin is searching.Do something for Potohari ID of urs if you can.......
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:47 # -
skyfacts
Blockedand where is ur larki ID???still alive or not .......
All the case is with beenai now....we have a strong proof to Block you now....And beenai need to show his authority.......Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:49 # -
sure! be my guest....
you can only cry after we all seen your islam!
you the one with multiple ids, quranist was you ?
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 3:52 # -
shikra
BlockedHere is another proof.
skyfacts
Member
@To all,
Jaishu type budday nahi manthy.ye pee k net open kerthy hain is ko dafa maro.
Is ko yahan k students ne todday maar k nikala tha..I am going to collect history about jaishuoo blasphemic turtle..
Blasphemic turtles ko bizzat karoo...this is religious duty....chowk me naked karo....Pakistani blasphemic laws are very clear about blasphemic attitude.....
ADMIN should do any thing for law enforcement in pkpolitics..
Jaishu ko ghar me kids nahi poochty yahan falsafy jhartha hy.....farigh rehtha hy naa....Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 4:29 # -
Dear All,
it seems like every one wants to block some one else.
it wont work like that....what happened to u all?
i think...we all getting short tempered and we need to go for tolerance.we need to go for opinions rather than personalities ....so we can differ from a view point ,but not from a Person.start believing in urself and ur own view idea.
put ur point with strong points and beat the person's view by your logic ,not through putting blocking request for him/her .thanks
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:02 # -
:)
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:07 # -
skyfacts
Blockedshikra/JS,
The Constitution
By its Constitution, the official name of Pakistan is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. More than ninety-six percent of Pakistan's one hundred and sixty-seven million citizens (2008) are Muslims.[1] Among countries with a Muslim-majority, Pakistan has the strictest anti-blasphemy laws. The first purpose of those laws is to protect Islamic authority. By the Constitution (Article 2), Islam is the state religion. By the Constitution's Article 31, it is the country's duty to foster the Islamic way of life. By Article 33, it is the country's duty to discourage parochial, racial, tribal, sectarian, and provincial prejudices among the citizens.[2]Judges need not be Muslim but few are not. Mr. Alvin Robert Cornelius, a Christian, was the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1960. After General Zia-ul-Haq took power in the late 1970s, non-Muslim judges were very rare. In March 2007, a Hindu judge, Mr. Rana Bhagwandas, became the acting Chief Justice of Pakistan. In 2009, Mr. Jamshaid Rehmatullah, a Christian, became a judge of the High Court.[3]
[edit] The Blasphemy Laws
Several sections of Pakistan’s Criminal Code comprise its blasphemy laws.[4] § 295 forbids damaging or defiling a place of worship or a sacred object. § 295-A forbids outraging religious feelings. § 295-B forbids defiling the Quran. § 295-C forbids defaming Prophet Muhammad. Except for § 295-C, the provisions of § 295 require that an offence be a consequence of the accused's intent. Defiling the Quran merits imprisonment for life. Defaming Prophet Muhammad merits death with or without a fine. (See below Sharia.) If a charge is laid under § 295-C, the trial must take place in a Court of Session with a Muslim judge presiding.[5]§ 298 states:
Whoever, with the deliberate intention of wounding the religious feelings of any person, utters any word or makes any sound in the hearing of that person or makes any gesture in the sight of that person or places any object in the sight of that person, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to one year, or with fine, or with both.
§ 298-A prohibits the use of any derogatory remark or representation in respect of Muslim holy personages. § 298-B and § 298-C prohibit the Ahmadiyya from behaving as Muslims behave, calling themselves Muslims, proselytizing, or "in any manner whatsoever" outraging the religious feelings of Muslims. Violation of any part of § 298 makes the violator liable to imprisonment for up to three years and liable also to a fine.No judicial execution of a person charged with blasphemy has occurred in Pakistan.[6] Article 45 of the Constitution says, "The President shall have power to grant pardon, reprieve and respite, and to remit, suspend or commute any sentence passed by any court, tribunal or other authority."
[edit] Sharia
The Federal Sharia Court (FSC) is a religious body which rules on whether any particular law is repugnant to the injunctions of Islam. If a law is repugnant to Islam, "the President in the case of a law with respect to a matter in the Federal Legislative List or the Concurrent Legislative List, or the Governor in the case of a law with respect to a matter not enumerated in either of those Lists, shall take steps to amend the law so as to bring such law or provision into conformity with the Injunctions of Islam" (Constitution, Article 203D). In October 1990, the FSC ruled that § 295-C was repugnant to Islam by permitting life imprisonment as an alternative to a death sentence. The Court said "the penalty for contempt of the Holy Prophet . . . is death."[7][8] The FSC ruled that, if the President did not take action to amend the law before 30 April 1991, then § 295-C would stand amended by its ruling.Promptly after the FSC's ruling in 1990, Bishop Dani L. Tasleem filed an appeal in the Supreme Court of Pakistan, which has the power to overrule the FSC. In April 2009, the Shariat Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court considered the appeal. Deputy Attorney-General Agha Tariq Mehmood, who represented the federal government, said that the Shariat Appellate Bench dismissed the appeal because the appellant did not pursue it. The appellant did not present any argument on the appeal because the appellant, according to reports, was no longer alive. Consequently, it appears to be the law in Pakistan that persons convicted under § 295-C must be sentenced to death with or without a fine.[9]
[edit] Segregation
The blasphemy laws are part of a system which segregates Muslims from non-Muslims, and prevents non-Muslims from having much control over their lives. The system fosters injustice, sectarian violence and violence between religions. The usual victims are Shia, Ahmadiyya, Christians, and Hindus. The authorities do little to prevent attacks on minorities or to punish the perpetrators of religion-inspired violence.[10][8]In November 2008, Pakistan's government appointed Shahbaz Bhatti as Federal Minister for Minorities, and gave him cabinet rank. Bhatti has promised that the Asif Ali Zardari government will review Pakistan's blasphemy laws. He said that the government is committed to protecting the rights of minority religious communities, and that the government will implement a five percent quota for religious minorities in federal government employment.[10]
[edit] Vigilantism
Those who are accused of blasphemy may be subject to harassment, threats, and attacks. Police, lawyers, and judges may also be subject to harassment, threats, and attacks when blasphemy is in issue.[10][11] Those accused of blasphemy are subject to immediate incarceration, and most accused are denied bail to forestall mob violence.[10][8] It is common for those accused of blasphemy to be put in solitary confinement for their protection from other inmates and guards. Like those who have served a sentence for blasphemy, those who are acquitted of blasphemy usually go into hiding or leave Pakistan.[10][12][edit] United Nations
Pakistan's opposition to blasphemy has caused Pakistan to be active in the international arena in promoting global limitations on freedom of religion or belief and limitations on freedom of expression. In March 2009, Pakistan presented a resolution to the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva which calls upon the world to formulate laws against the defamation of religion.[10] See blasphemy.[edit] A small sample of cases
Between 1988 and 2005, Pakistani authorities charged 647 people with offences under the blasphemy laws. Fifty percent of the people charged were non-Muslim. Twenty of those charged were murdered soon after the charge was laid.[13][8]On 30 July 2009, hundreds of members of Sipah-e-Sahaba, a banned Muslim organization, torched Christian homes and killed Christians in the Punjabi city of Gojra and in the nearby village of Korian. The proferred reason for the violence was that a Christian had defiled a Quran. Christian mobs retaliated. Fighting between Muslim and Christian groups went on through 1 August 2009. [14][15]
Two Christians, both elderly men from Faisalabad, Punjab, were acquitted by the Lahore High Court in April 2009. In November 2006, the two had been sentenced to 10 years in prison for allegedly burning pages from the Quran. The allegation arose apparently out of a dispute over land.[10]
On 28 January 2009, the police in Punjab arrested a labourer and four students for blasphemy. All those arrested were Amadhi. The accusation against them was that they wrote "Prophet Mohammed" on the wall of a toilet in a Sunni mosque. The senior superintendent of police investigated and reported to the Ministry of the Interior at the end of March 2009 that the accusation was baseless.[16][17][10]
In May 2008, Punjabi police jailed Robin Sardar, a physician and a Christian, upon an accusation of blasphemy from a Muslim street-vendor who wanted to install himself in front of Sardar's clinic.[18]
In February 2008, Special Rapporteurs of the United Nations Human Rights Council reminded Pakistan's representative of the matter regarding Raja Fiaz, Muhammad Bilal, Nazar Zakir Hussain, Qazi Farooq, Muhammad Rafique, Muhammad Saddique and Ghulam Hussain. According to the allegations received, the men are members of the Mehdi Foundation International (MFI), a multi-faith institution utilizing the mystical principles of Mr. Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi. They were arrested on 23 December 2005 in Wapda Town. The police confiscated posters on which Mr. Gohar Shahi was shown as “Imam Mehdi.” On 13 July 2006, the Anti-Terrorism Court No. 1 in Lahore sentenced each of these persons to five years of imprisonment, inter alia, under § 295-A for having outraged others’ religious feelings. Since 27 August 2006, the seven men have been detained in Sahiwal Jail, Punjab, where they were forced to parade naked, and were suspended from the ceiling and beaten. Their prisoners’ records are posted outside the cell, falsely indicating that they had been sentenced under § 295-C. For this reason, they are constantly threatened and intimidated by prison staff as well as by other detainees. One MFI member was targeted by several other inmates and sexually assaulted. Subsequently, other staff members sexually abused him and pushed burning cigarette butts in his ****, which left scars that can still be seen.[19]
In April 2007, upon a charge of blasphemy, the police in Toba Tek Singh jailed five Christians: Salamat Masih, his son Rashid, and their relatives Ishfaq, Saba, and Dao Masih. The allegation against the Christians was that they desecrated pieces of paper that bore Prophet Mohammed's name. On 25 January 2009, the authorities released the Christians, and Muslim clerics agreed to issue a fatwa which declared that the accusation of blasphemy was unsound.[20]
On 28 October 2007, the police arrested Muhammad Imran of Faisalabad under § 295-B for allegedly setting fire to a Quran. For three days, the police kept Imran in a torture-cell where they tortured him. Then the police sent him to a jail where other inmates attacked him. His jailers put Imran into solitary confinement without attending to his injuries. On 14 April 2009, an Additional Sessions judge released Imran.[21]
On 11 August 2005, Judge Arshad Noor Khan of the Anti-Terrorist Court found Younus Shaikh guilty of defiling a copy of the Quran, outraging religious feelings, and propagating religious hatred among society.[22] Shaikh's conviction occurred because he wrote a book: "Shaitan Maulvi" (Satanic Cleric). The book said stoning to death (Rajam) as a punishment for adultery was not mentioned in the Quran. The book said also that four historical Imams (religious leaders) were Jews.[23] The judge imposed upon Shaikh a fine of 100,000 rupees, and sentenced him to spend his life in jail.[24]
On 20 November 2003, the police arrested Anwar Masih, a day labourer, a Christian, a married father of four (at that time), a resident of Shahdara, a town next to Lahore.[12][25] The police charged Masih under § 295-B. The charge arose out of an encounter that Masih had with a neighbour who had grown a beard. The neighbor disclosed that he had converted from Christianity to Islam. Masih and the neighbour exchanged harsh words. The neighbour reported to the police that Masih had insulted Prophet Mohammed. The Lahore High Court acquitted Masih on 24 December 2004. In August 2005, Masih took a job in a factory. In November 2007, he lost the job when his employer was threatened for employing a "blasphemer." Masih went into hiding.[12]
In October 2000, Pakistani authorities charged Younus Shaikh, a physician, with blasphemy on account of remarks that students claimed he made during a lecture. The students alleged that, inter alia, Shaikh had said the Prophet Mohammed’s parents were non-Muslims because they died before Islam existed. A judge ordered that Shaikh pay a fine of 100,000 rupees, and that he be hanged.[26] On 20 November 2003, a court retried the matter and acquitted Shaikh, who fled Pakistan for Europe soon thereafter.[27]
In 2000, a court sentenced Naseem Ghani and Mohammed Shafiq to seven years imprisonment upon allegations that they had burned a Quran.[8]
The police arrested Ayub Masih, a Pakistani Christian bricklayer, for blasphemy on 14 October 1996, and jailed him for violation of § 295-C. Muhammad Akram, a Muslim neighbor to Masih, complained to the police that Masih had said Christianity was right, and Masih had recommended that Akram read Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses.[7][12]
The same day Masih was arrested, Muslim villagers forced the entire Christian population of Masih's village (fourteen families) to leave it. Masih's family had made application under a government program that gave housing plots to landless people. Local landlords resented Masih's application because the landlords had been able to oblige landless Christians to work in the fields in exchange for a place to live. Masih's application gave him a way out of his subservience to the landlords.[8] Upon Masih's arrest, the authorities gave Masih's plot to Akram.[7] Akram shot and injured Masih in the halls of the Session Court at Sahiwal on 6 November 1997. Four assailants attacked Masih in jail. The authorities took no action against Akram or against the other assailants.[7]
On 20 April 1998, Judge Abdul Khan sentenced Masih to death and levied a fine of 100,000 rupees. Two judges of the Lahore High Court heard Masih's appeal on 24 July 2001. Shortly thereafter, the judges affirmed the judgment of the trial court.[7] On 16 August 2002, the Supreme Court of Pakistan set aside the judgment of the trial court. The Supreme Court noted Akram's acquisition of Masih's property, and concluded the case had been fabricated for personal gain. The court also noted other breaches in the law of due process.[28][29]
Judge Arif Iqbal Hussain Bhatti was assassinated on 19 October 1997 in his Lahore office after acquitting two people who were accused of blasphemy.[7]
Riaz Ahmad, his son, and two nephews (Basharat Ahmad, Qamar Ahmad and Mushtaq Ahmad), all Ahmadis, were arrested and jailed on 21 November 1993. They were detained for having "said something derogatory." Local people in Piplan, Mianwali District, said that rivalry over Ahmad's position as village headman was the real motivation for the complaint against him. The Sessions Court rejected the bail applications of the accused. The Supreme Court granted bail in December 1997.[12][6][8]
In February 1993, Anwar Masih, a Christian from Samundri in Punjab, went to jail upon a Muslim shopkeeper's allegation that, during an argument over money, Masih had insulted the Prophet Mohammed.[8]
In November 1992, Gul Masih, a Christian, was sentenced to death after having remarked to his neighbor Mohammad Sajjad, a Muslim, he had read "that Mohammed had 11 wives, including a minor." [30]
Christians and Muslims in Pakistan condemned Dan Brown's novel The Da Vinci Code as blasphemous. On 3 June 2006, Pakistan banned the film. Culture Minister Ghulam Jamal said: "Islam teaches us to respect all the prophets of God Almighty and degradation of any prophet is tantamount to defamation of the rest."[31]
JUST GO THROUGH THIS LAW AND DECIDE FOR YOUR SELF HOW SHOULD BE TREATMENT ABOUT YOU NOW........
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:08 # -
skyfacts
BlockedJavaid.Shaikh,
HERE IS THE PROOF FOR BLASPHEMIC ATTITUDE OF YOU AND COMMENTS OF A RESPECTABLE PERSON OVER YOUR ATTITUDE........Javid Shiekh Wrote:
My neighbor, a Christian asked how a Muslim would react in case he burns out a copy of holy Quran in his presence.
'He will kill you", I replied.
How you will react if the same person burns out a copy of the Holy Bible? I asked.
'I will go to the nearest book store and buy another copy of the Bible.' He responded.
=================================So you acutally want the Muslims to stand quite when Quran gets burned and Cartoons of the Rasool Allah Sallaho Alahi Wasallam are made ?
Hmm interesting.JS dude just leave like **** bro i thought u were man enuf of a person to just walk away if your theology and ideation are dismissed.
JS in any of your supposedly informative post have you ever encouraged any form of development in the country. No you havent cos you belong to the mindset of the people that your country men are worst of the worst and rest of them all are better human beings.
Well havent you left yet?
Like to drag this on as a drama queen.
like Teenage girls when they dont get to finish.
ITs really sad that the people who are the most Anti Pakistan are being promoted as wise and intellectual while their actions are worse than the bhangi we meet on our streets.
WE CANNOT TOLERATE MORE OF YOUR COMMENTS HERE AT THE FORUM..WHEN CONSTITUTION DECIDED A DEATH PENALTY FOR A PERSON HOW HE SHOULD BE GIVEN RIGHT TO SATAY A FORUM BELONGS TO MUSLIMS.....
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:13 # -
msohail83
Memberyea, he lost!
Now, Mullah can bulldoze someone else with his filth.
Keep it up!
Beenai,
Since Admin doesn't listen to us, why don't u ask him to get more moderators to keep it clean?
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:16 # -
:)
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:17 # -
@msohial ,
Admin has one more moderator Redemption ...
i dono,,,,where is he nowadays?
plus Admin Discuss himself do visit the forum and do a lot of cleaning .@Mulla,
its not a game of losing and wining .
its all about putting your thoughts in a logical manner ,while not getting personal .
and it applies on all of us .
including you and all and ME too.
thanksPosted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:21 # -
msohail83
MemberArchive was here for a day to find out etymology of a few slang words (tulla, lota, etc). He vanished after that. Never seen him ever since.
Admins are too busy with other stuff!
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:24 # -
NNL
memberBeenai since you are here can i ask you why did you delete my thread " Questions to Quranist"
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:25 # -
@Dear NNL,
nothing was wrong with your original posting .
but remarks and posts after that were too strange ,that i left with no option ,but to delete the whole thread .
sorry .Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:34 # -
NNL
memberCan i post the questions again ?
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:35 # -
@msohail,
i am not busy in other stuff.
i am only doing cleaning ...........Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:35 # -
msohail83
MemberNot you beenai. You do your job just fine and I really appreciate it. I'm talking abt the admins.
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:41 # -
@msohial ,
thanxPosted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:53 # -
shikra
BlockedThe promoting and defending Terrorism and Fanaticism is more dangerous than the violation of the Blasphemy Laws in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
There are over one thousand Anti-Islam web-sites at the internet and haven't done any damage to Islam what a few fanatics of your kind have done.Blasphemy is related to Allah and His Rasool (PBUH) who never acted like you people even when he was insulted in Taif.
Who gave you authority to create an issue just to show off your fake and artificial love for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.The Terrorism and Talibanism has shaken the very roots, its economy and even the future of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its population.
your method and strategy to fight Blasphemy is extremely bogus, ridiculous, Jahilana and stupid.
The more you show anxeity the more they will tease you.
The method of ignoring will kill their intentions automatically.
a fanatic like you cannot understand this wisdom.Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:54 # -
skyfacts
BlockedJS/shikra,
I dont think to respond to a fake ID is needed any more...
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:57 # -
msohail83
Membershikra,
You're an extremist too, just on the other side!
Thinking like urs is equally detrimental to the fabric of our society.
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 5:58 # -
Anyone who abuses should be banned for few days as a warning. Mulla if someone different style of thinking does not gives you freedom of abuse against him. Throwing your filth out is no more a heroic act. when we are in a civilized society we have to follow the norms of civilized society. A healthy debate could only take place in a civilized society so help us making this forum a civilized place.
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 9:05 # -
aristotle
MemberLetsDoIt
Agree with u.. Mulla must be civilized:)
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 10:01 # -
Justapakistani
Memberlolz aristotle impossible for a Mulla to be civilized ;)coz Mulla fasad ki jar ;)
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 10:12 # -
aristotle
Memberjustapakistani
u r very right...Allama Iqbal very rightly said
Deen-e-Mulla Fee Sabilulla Fasad
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 10:41 #
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