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Between Sufism and Salafism

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  1. toamin
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    A call for unity!
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    Unfortunately today we find groupings amongst the Ummah who have taken the age old divisions regarding the branches of belief, usūl al-fiqh and jurisprudence to extremes. They speak with an agenda to refute each other and exhaust much effort in this pursuit. Regrettably they consider each other the enemy whilst our lands are occupied by the kuffār, such as the land of the Isrā’ and Mi’rāj (The Prophet’s Night Journey), whilst Muslim blood is spilt by the colonialists the world over and whilst the enemies of Islam seek to seduce Muslims away from our core values, sharī’ah rules and even our ‘aqīdah (belief).

    Putting aside the fringe minority amongst both camps, who have clearly gone totally astray – such as those amongst the Sufis that believe in Wahdat al-wujūd – that Allāh (swt) is part of the creation, or those amongst the Salafī ultra-Żāhirī’s (literalists) who make Takfīr (pronouncing disbelief) on everyone apart from themselves – looking at the mainstream of both camps today, one can notice that both sides have gone beyond the bounds of what their founders, and the classical scholars that they refer to, taught.

    The Ash’arī scholars and pioneers in history, whilst they disagreed strongly with the views of the literalists did not consider them and their scholars as enemies. They did not consider Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn al-Qayyim, Ibn Kathīr and the like as heretics even though they differed with them in many issues, ranging from the definition of Imān, the manner in which to understand the sifāt(attributes) of Allāh (swt), in the usage of Qiyās (legal analogical reasoning) and the permissibility of Taqlīd (following qualified legal opinions of a mujtahid) to a school of thought (madhhab). In fact they did not even consider this camp in the same light as the heretical groups such as the Mu’tazilah or the Khawārij. On the contrary the books of these scholars were respected and quoted by Ash’arī scholars throughout history. It is true that they strongly criticised the literalist camp for their approach and views but this was on the scholarly intellectual level and must be taken in this context. This was the practice even amongst the Salaf as-Salihīn (pious predecessors), such as the founding fathers of the madhāhib (schools of thought). For example when Imam al-Shāfi’ī criticised the principle of Istihsān (juristic preference), a secondary source of law utilised by the Hanafī school, in the chapter Ibtāl al- Istihsān (Refutation of Juristic Preference) in his book Kitab al-Umm, he equated the one who adopted it similar to the one who makes the mind sovereign. This in no way meant that he viewed them as deviants; on the contrary he respected his teacher, the student of Imām Abū Hanīfah, Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybānī with high regard.

    Similarly the literalist scholars whom the Salafī camp hold in high regard and take their thought from; whilst they also harshly criticised the Ash’arī’s, especially on some of their views such as the attributes of Allāh (swt), their definition of the Qur’ān as an expression of the speech of Allāh, their definition of Imān (belief) as being Tasdīq (assent) in the heart and not including actions, and their justification of Taqlīd – they did not consider them as heretics or deviants deserving the wrath of Allāh (swt). Look at what Ibn Taymiyyah himself says:

    “It is not necessarily the case that everyone who makes a mistake in matters of ‘aqīdah is destined to be from the destroyed and the losers. Perhaps, the disputant was a mistaken mujtahid for whom Allāh will forgive his mistake. It is also possible that he did not receive enough information about the topic to conclude that the proof has been established against him.” [Ibn Taymiyyah, Majmū’ al-Fatāwa, vol. 3 p.179]

    In fact he mentions that even the Salaf differed on various issues; even those related to the belief. He says:

    “The early pious people (al-salaf) disputed about many of those issues. Yet none of them declared the others of having unbelief, evil or sin. Shurayh rejected the reading of the verse, “But I wonder (‘ajibtu) while they mock” (al-Sāffāt: 12). He said, “Allāh does not wonder.”[1] When that reached Ibrāhīm al-Nakha’ī, he said, “Shurayh was a poet who was overcome by his own knowledge. But ‘Abdullah [ibn Mas’ūd] was more knowledgeable than him and he would read, “I wonder”. And ’Āishah disputed with the other Companions regarding Muhammad (saw) seeing his Lord. She said, “Whoever claims that Muhammad saw his Lord has committed a great falsehood against Allāh.” Despite this, we do not say about Ibn ‘Abbās or others who disputed with her on that point, that they stated a great lie against Allāh. They also disputed about whether the dead could hear the words of the living, whether the dead is punished for the crying of his family and so forth…” [Ibn Taymiyyah, Majmū’ al-Fatāwa, vol 3, pp. 239-240]

    Remember they considered that Allāh (swt) would forgive the sincere believers for their mistakes even in matters they believed were clear, as is mentioned in the hadīth, “Allāh has pardoned for my nation [what is done] by mistake, out of forgetfulness or under duress.”

    If we were to look at the reasons why Abul Hasan al-Ash’ari (d. 936 CE) and those who followed him as well as scholars on the literalist side like Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 1328 CE) entered into the debates about the branches of belief we would find that they did so with the noble purpose of defending the Islamic creed. Imam Abul Hasan al-Ash’ari rose to the challenge of refuting the strange views of the deviant group, the Mu’tazila who were creating confusion in his time. Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah on the other hand faced the incorrect views of the extreme sufi mystics influenced by foreign philosophies head on and exposed them.

    It would be much more productive, in line with the obligation of enjoining the good and forbidding the munkar (evil) and in keeping with the ethos of the classical scholars, for both camps today to focus on refuting the intellectual onslaught launched by the Kuffār upon the Dīn, its definitive concepts, rules and even the Islamic creed. Today, in the name of reformation people are questioning thehudūd laws set by Allah; they are attempting to destroy the Islamic concept of brotherhood by permitting the alliance with the kuffār against the believers; they attempt to cast doubt on the obligation of the khimār (headscarf) and jilbāb upon the woman in the public life and want us to turn away from the fundamental aqeeda concept of the sovereignty of Allāh (swt) by accepting man-made laws. Secular liberalism championed by the west is the real threat that is corrupting millions of Muslims worldwide not the centuries old debates on the branches of aqeeda and usul al fiqh. One may point to modern day Sūfīs or Salafīs who are modernists used in this campaign against the normative concepts in Islam in order to strengthen his argument against the other camp.

    However, it is clear that there are some in both camps who are being used to cast doubt on the fundamentals of the Dīn. There are some who claim to be the followers of Abul Hasan al-Ash’arī yet they go against the qat’ī (definitive) matters, contradicting what is established by evidences that are definitive in authenticity and meaning. They going against the consensus of all the scholars including the four Imāms of the madhāhib and all the scholars from amongst the Ash’arī’s such as Qādī ‘Iyād, Al-Ghazālī, Imām al-Haramayn al-Juwaynī, Al-Suyūtī, Al-Rāzī, Al-Nawawī, Ibn Hajr al-Haytamī, Ibn Hajr al-‘Asqalānī and others.

    They argue away the hudud (prescribed punishments) of Allah such as the obligation to cut the hand of the thief and lashing the unmarried fornicator on the pretext of the changing of the time and place. They misuse the principles of masalih al mursala (public interests), dharoora (necessity),alhaf al-dararain (the lesser of the two harms) and the like to justify the taking of riba (usury), electing people to rule by other than Islam and other matters that would be considered blasphemous to the Ash’ari scholars of the past.

    The modernist scholars error is not due to being Ash’arī; rather it is due to being those who are justifying the unjustifiable and their thoughts need to be exposed by both Ash’arī and non-Ash’arī ulema alike.

    Similarly it could be said that there are Salafī scholars that legitimise the clearly non-Islamic rule of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and justify the Kingdom’s actions such as its alliance with America. Again those who do this are manifestly turning away from the path of the Salaf, the definitive evidences and the consensus of all scholars including Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Kathīr. The literalists scholars did not only view it is as a strong prohibition; they in fact considered ruling by other than what Allāh (swt) has revealed as disbelief.

    Ibn Taymiyyah said: “Undoubtedly, whoever does not believe that it is obligatory to rule according to that which Allah has revealed to His Messenger is a Kafir (disbeliever), and whoever thinks it is permissible to rule among people according to his own opinions, turning away and not following which Allah has revealed is also a Kafir…So in matters which are common to the Ummah as a whole, it is not permissible to rule or judge according to anything except the Quran and Sunnah. No one has the right to make the people follow the words of a scholar or ameer, shaykh or king. Whoever believes that he can judge between people according to any such thing, and does not judge between them according to the Quran and Sunnah is a Kafir.” [Ibn Taymiyyah, Minhaj as-Sunnah, 5/130-132]

    Hence, the Salafi-modernists should be exposed by the Salafī and non-Salafī scholars alike.

    Perhaps it is also time for both camps to go back to the original sources of the Qur’ān and Sunnah, which are the sources of guidance for the Ash’arīs and Salafīs alike, and attempt to neutrally re-evaluate some of their controversial views. If one was to refer back to the original sources instead of continuing to adhere to the position of their camp, they may conclude that some of the views they have been adhering to are weak or incorrect; such as the traditionalists position that the doors of Ijtihād are closed even though it has been established that Ijtihād is Fard al-Kifāyah (an obligation of sufficiency). Similarly if someone from the Salafī camp independently reconsiders the literalist position of the prohibition of taqlīd he may discover its weakness, as the Qur’ān commands us to,“Ask the people of dhikr (understanding) if you know not” [TMQ 21:7] and the Prophet (saw) said,“The cure for the lack of knowledge is to ask” as well as many other evidences. Maybe if we go back to the original sources and study the matters neutrally, instead of trying to dogmatically defend the position of our teachers and our camp, we may find that the true path is neither Sufism nor Salafism, Ash’arī or Żahirī but that it is a path in between the two.

    More importantly regardless of our scholastic or juristic persuasions let us unite against the clear disbelief of secular liberalism and take heed in the words of our Lord,
    “And those who disbelieve are allies to one another, (and) if you do not do so, there will be Fitnah (wars, battles, polytheism) and oppression on the earth.” [TMQ Al Anfal: 73]

    In this era where the war against Islam is intense and spans the globe it is not fitting for us to exhaust energy in polemics of centuries bygone. Surely refuting the creed of dividing religion from politics and worldly life that has actually affected the ummah en masse is more important than the semantics of the definition of Iman. The thousands of hours spent by imams, speakers, writers and activists in discussing whether the attributes of Allah are literal or metaphoric would be much better spent in actually working to replace the satanic laws that our lands are governed by with the law of the All-mighty, the Supreme. We need to unite upon our fundamentals and despite our differences work together so that the kalima (word) of truth becomes the highest.

    “And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allah’s Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren, and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allah makes His Ayat clear to you, that you may be guided.” [TMQ Aal Imran: 103]

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 7:30 #
  2. gv
    Member

    @salam

    Well written article and I agree with the general gist of it which promotes direct research and unity amongst the different school of thoughts.

    Two points which stuck in my craw more than the others are:

    1) "Wahdat al-wujūd – that Allāh (swt) is part of the creation":-

    Wahdat al wujud means Allah is the only reality and therefore all creation is a sub set of Allah (remember vectors in mathematics) not the other way around. intellectually it exalts god and does not demean.

    2) "let us unite against the clear disbelief of secular liberalism":-

    Secularism promotes neutrality in religion in a nation state/community. ie. All people should be allowed to freely practice whichever faith they wish and faith should not be a business of the State/community adminstrators.

    so in short secularism does not promote godlessness as your article implies it promotes the freedom of the individual to practice whichever religion they chose to.

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 12:02 #
  3. Abdul Rahman
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    Secularism may be accepted in a Christian society but it can never enjoy a general acceptance in an Islamic society. Christianity is devoid of a shari`ah or a comprehensive system of life to which its adherents should be committed. The New Testament itself divides life into two parts: one for God, or religion, the other for Caesar, or the state: "Render unto Caesar things which belong to Caesar, and render unto God things which belong to God" (Matthew 22:21). As such, a Christian could accept secularism without any qualms of conscience. Furthermore, Westerners, especially Christians, have good reasons to prefer a secular regime to a religious one. Their experience with "religious regimes" - as they knew them - meant the rule of the clergy, the despotic authority of the Church, and the resulting decrees of excommunication and the deeds of forgiveness, i.e. letters of indulgence.

    For Muslim societies, the acceptance of secularism means something totally different; i.e. as Islam is a comprehensive system of worship (ibadah) and legislation (Shariah), the acceptance of secularism means abandonment of Shari`ah, a denial of the divine guidance and a rejection of Allah’s injunctions; It is indeed a false claim that Shariah is not proper to the requirements of the present age. The acceptance of a legislation formulated by humans means a preference of the humans’ limited knowledge and experiences to the divine guidance:

    "Say! Do you know better than Allah?" (2:140).

    For this reason, the call for secularism among Muslims is atheism and a rejection of Islam. Its acceptance as a basis for rule in place of Shari`ah is downright biddah. The silence of the masses in the Muslim world about this deviation has been a major transgression and a clear-cut instance of disobedience which have produces a sense of guilt, remorse, and inward resentment, all of which have generated discontent, insecurity, and hatred among committed Muslims because such deviation lacks legality. Secularism is compatible with the Western concept of God which maintains that after God had created the world, He left it to look after itself. In this sense, God’s relationship with the world is like that of a watchmaker with a watch: he makes it then leaves it to function without any need for him. This concept is inherited from Greek philosophy, especially that of Aristotle who argued that God neither controls nor knows anything about this world. This is a helpless God as described by Will Durant. There is no wonder that such a God leaves people to look after their own affairs. How can He legislate for them when He is ignorant of their affairs? This concept is totally different from that of Muslims.

    We Muslims believe that Allah (SWT) is the sole Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds. One Who "…takes account of every single thing) (72:28); that He is omnipotent and omniscient; that His mercy and bounties encompasses everyone and suffice for all.

    In that capacity, Allah (SWT) revealed His divine guidance to humanity, made certain things permissible and others prohibited, commanded people observe His injunctions and to judge according to them. If they do not do so, then they commit kufr, aggression, and transgression."

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 14:31 #
  4. gv
    Member

    @AR

    You are wrong on your assertion that the christian west is inherently secular.

    three points for you to ponder on:

    1) Emperor Constantine and
    2) St Augustine
    3) Isabella & Ferdinand

    Also you can legislate based on sharia law just as western nations have legislated based on christian law for centuries.

    that does not mean the state needs a state religion.

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 16:48 #
  5. NNL
    member

    The article seems to be have written with one thought process in mind and that is to reject the Monarchy in KSA. However the author shy's away from explaining how the Monarchy of KSA is unislamic.

    Regarding Abu Hasan Al Ashari.
    The author seems to skip the part where the great man made his Tauba from the Ashari school of thought and wrote 2 books of which one they dispute but on the other people stay silent.

    Same goes for the Imam al-Haramain Juwaini changed his views before his deathbed and renounced the ways of Kalam.

    so based on that if Ibn Tayymiyah Rahim Allaah said that One can make a mistake as the correct knowledge may have not been received to him doesnt refrain him calling them deviant but only withholds him from calling them out of Islam. Again that statement is made for the Scholars alone and none else.

    So here is the bigger question if the founding fathers of a particular movement declare the entire movement to be wrong then what right do the followers have to still propagate a theory or belief which has been declared to be false by the originators.

    Regarding the Salafi Ulema of Saudi.
    The author again fails to mention to whom is he refering to ?
    Only Shaykh Albani Rahim Allaah was the one who said there is nothing wrong in using the label as actually you are following the Salaf.

    Other than that which of the Ulema of Saudi have used or asked to use this label.

    Secondly the author right after declaring the Kingship as unislamic and giving a quote of Ibn Taymiyyah Rahim Allaah fails to even elucidate one point of the unholiness of the Kingship.

    i would really love to know how is the kingship system in KSA unislamic cos by putting that quote of the great Shaykh and the citing the Salafi Ulema as doing something haram this author has given a fatwa of his own and made people who are far more knowledgeable than him as kuffar or something along those lines.

    Then by showing his utter ignorance regarding the matters of religion the author goes on to say that he thinks time will be better spent on replacing the satanic law of the land instead of talking about Who Allaah Azza wa Jal.

    To him Tawheed of Allaah Azza Wa Jal takes a lesser precedence in this era.

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 20:19 #
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    NNL

    you have been replied to why monarchy in KSA is unislamic

    Okay so your Zionist masters who have created a new Islam though Salafi puppets like you may not think its not uIslamic but since when should all muslims adhere to Zionist Islam?

    Posted 10 months ago on 01 Jul 2011 2:40 #
  7. toamin
    member

    Question: "how the Monarchy of KSA is unislamic."

    Let us define the term "Monarchy", in simple words it's "a governmental system in which supreme power is actually or nominally held by a hereditary monarch"

    Saud tribe was implanted by british to revolt against Khilafat, after revolt british implanted this tribe over Middle East, why?

    Now Aal Sheikh Ibn Abdl Wahab is busy legitimizing King's rule as "Islamic", how is King a Caliph? Isn't it clear deviation from Qur'an & Sunnah?

    Posted 10 months ago on 03 Jul 2011 8:22 #
  8. shafiq12
    member

    NP
    What do you think about "Wahdat al-wujūd".... Do you agree with this concept as " every thing in this world is a part of allah". Does this concept contradict with your belief... I mean quran teaches "Oneness of Allah" not "unity of Allah". Do you favor unity of Allah or Oneness of Allah

    Posted 10 months ago on 03 Jul 2011 12:46 #
  9. NNL
    member

    Salam Bhai
    Please

    Jazak Allah Khair

    List the evidences which prove that the Kingdom of KSA is unislamic. just evidences from Quran and Sunnah which categorically summarized as a complete deviation.

    Also please highlight the evidences where Rasool Allaah Sallaho Alayhi Wa Alaa Alayhi Wa Sallaam described kingship as haram.

    That would be really great.

    Posted 10 months ago on 03 Jul 2011 22:14 #
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    Oblivion

    Everything in this world came to be from Allahs knowledge and it evolves and acts within Allah knowledge

    Allah is not a defined being that can be sumaised, or perceived by humans, so to say "everything is a part of" means you must know "that" which it is a part of

    but you cannot fully perceive Allah

    Allah is infinite,
    Allah is limitless
    nor is he constrained by time or a place

    at best we know that everything came to from Allah and evolved with the knowledge of Allah

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 18:35 #
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    NNL

    you have been replied to but the Salafi disease of blindness in the is too widespread.

    as their is a seal on your heart and mind beyond which you cannot or do not want to see

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 18:35 #
  12. shafiq12
    member

    NP
    I hadn't ask you to explain things.... I just simply ask you do you believe in "Wahdat al-wujūd" Please answer "yes" or "no".... Do you agree with this concept of "Wahdat al-wujūd"?
    Does this concept contradict your belief in God. That's what i am asking about.... NP why you always ignore question?
    I don't know?

    Posted 10 months ago on 05 Jul 2011 8:02 #
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    Oblivion isnt this your question with refrence to "Wahdat al-wujūd"....

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    Do you agree with this concept as " every thing in this world is a part of allah".
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    and this is my answer in short which I gave above

    at best we know that everything came to from Allah and evolved with the knowledge of Allah

    when did I not answer the Question?

    It is you who keeps avoiding the question which I am asking on a serious note, how old are you?

    Posted 10 months ago on 05 Jul 2011 10:48 #
  14. shafiq12
    member

    NP...
    Alright.... I am a kid, who is unable to understand your highly intellectual language.... ...
    ... I mean please answer directly by saying "yes" or "no".... Do you believe in Concept of "Wahadut ul Wajood"

    Posted 10 months ago on 06 Jul 2011 5:07 #
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    Oblivion can you answer your exact age truthfuly then I will answer you...I Promise :)

    Posted 10 months ago on 06 Jul 2011 12:01 #
  16. shafiq12
    member

    guess my age... What you think? How old i would? ;)

    Posted 10 months ago on 07 Jul 2011 5:04 #
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    right!! okay you can also guess my answer then ;)

    or you can tell you age in a straight forward manner :)

    Posted 10 months ago on 07 Jul 2011 7:05 #
  18. shafiq12
    member

    or you can tell you age in a straight forward manner

    i am below 70 right...Now what do you think

    Posted 10 months ago on 07 Jul 2011 7:18 #
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    My answer may have been given before...what do you think?

    Posted 10 months ago on 07 Jul 2011 7:20 #

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