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CIA Cheated ISI? By Zaheerul Hassan

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  1. Pak Truth
    Member

    Pakistan Intelligence agency killed and arrested terrorist and borne live loses more than American troops, CIA failed to stop 9/11,planned 7/7 ,murdered Kennedy, interfered in China, Russia, Egypt, Arab States, Iran and Korea has now selected Pakistan her future target. Indian armed forces threat to Pakistan also reveals that India might be used as American Instrument now .Please reply on following:-

    a. how CIA nefarious activities be countered in Pakistan?
    b. Will India go for war or hit Pakistan similar nature of raid against Pakistan under the garb of Mumbai Drama?
    c. Is U.S. successful in creating rift between Pakistan government and Security Forces?
    d. U. S planned to hit centre of gravity (Pakistan Security forces) through public sentiments will be successful or not ?
    e. Pakistan provided basic information to U.S. regarding OBL, is CIA Cheating to ISI justified?

    http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=2&tid=700328

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 May 2011 5:10 #
  2. @Pak Truth
    [Or is it "ISPR Truth"? Why do all those nicks with "truth" in them always spin tales??? BTW: Since you seem to only post tall tales by Lt Col Zaheerul Hassan(R), may I ask: Are you Lt Col Zaheerul Hassan(R)??]

    a. how CIA nefarious activities be countered in Pakistan?
    By not sleeping with them and giving them full fredom to do what they please (won't happen)

    b. Will India go for war or hit Pakistan similar nature of raid against Pakistan under the garb of Mumbai Drama?
    Probably after the next such incident. What will army do? Blame RAW for not being open?

    c. Is U.S. successful in creating rift between Pakistan government and Security Forces?
    Silly question. Security forces are the government...

    d. U. S planned to hit centre of gravity (Pakistan Security forces) through public sentiments will be successful or not?
    Not much help was needed there. This ought to shatter any illusions people still had left but the nincompoops will of course continue to believe the old fantasies

    e. Pakistan provided basic information to U.S. regarding OBL, is CIA Cheating to ISI justified?
    They did not provide any info. If they had any info, they would have acted on it. They were clueless (their own words, not mine). CIA cheating? Is that news? (Isn't that the very excuse Kiyani is selling to his men these days?) That's what intelligence agencies do (and ISI does too) so where's the surprise? These m*rons bought into the fantasy that they were equals (because they thought they had gained trust by "selling their mothers for dollars") so the CIA knows their true worth...Would you trust them (ISI)??

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 May 2011 7:06 #
  3. Anonymous

    Ive never had a doubt the CIA has tricked the ISI to its advantage. The wedge was already their, the CIA saw the ISI reasserting. All they said, aisay karna hai to aisay sahi and they have nailed the wedge right through.

    This means this isnt stopping here. In a few days they'll be naming the military officers who have been dropping Osama bread and making him tea. And sooner than later, the "secret dvd's" they have found in the compound are going to show Kayani and Osama together discussing US rail bomb plans.

    This wouldv happened by now but thanks to the friend, and I really see China as a selfless friend, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and now of all.. Iran, the CIA is stopped in its tracks.

    This shall give the ISI much needed space to plan their actions. I see a change of govt very soon! The 44% bogus voters list is destined for glory.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 May 2011 8:43 #
  4. runaway
    Member

    haha..cheating..

    ISI and CIA are were taking part in special olympics.

    Intelligence work is 'cheating'. Safehouses and undercover agents are 'cheating'.

    Next time ISI should avoild playing with CIA

    Maybe try playing with Chinese team and hope they dont cheat :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 May 2011 10:42 #
  5. Pak Truth
    Member

    @Runaway,
    CIA is playing in the hands of Jews. Her policies only revolve around protecting Jews. She betrayed ISI in the current Abbottabad operation. Pakistan should come close to the Russia and straighten her relations with China.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 May 2011 13:45 #
  6. @Pak Truth
    "CIA is playing in the hands of Jews."
    Then so are their "strategic 'most favored' partners", Army and the ISI. Now that is a FACT you yourself CONFIRM in your very next statement ("She betrayed ISI in the current Abbottabad operation" meaning they sleep together hence the feeling of betrayal.) :-P

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 May 2011 6:13 #
  7. Pak Truth
    Member

    @ nota
    This is not the matter, Criticizing and weakening of ISI and Pakistan Army is CIA and their follower agenda, Unfortunatly , people like u easily towing their line. Taking measures in relation to the security of Pakistan is good but weaking and hitting own security and national interest depicts something else.

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 May 2011 16:22 #
  8. @NaPak Lies
    "Unfortunatly , people like u easily towing their line."
    You (Army/ISI) get in bed with them -- a dab of K-Y jelly applied of course -- and it is people like me who are towing their line? Wah! Wah!! ;-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 May 2011 17:34 #
  9. liv_2_die
    Member

    my 2 cents from another post

    i thought long and hard about it .. my first reactions 'all reposnible should be fired - head must roll' .. then i saw this second opinion amongst people ' this is the agenda of CIA to get to ISI' .. no doubt being a pakistani and someone whoz been defending army on this forum, i immediately saw the hidden agenda in this line .. but then i thot and thot and thot and came to this conclusion

    i do believe this this whole episode was a drama staged by US .. no doubt one of the reason was to get back and settle score on raymond davis fiasco .. another obvious could be the dsclosure of CIA operation cheif who had to leave Pakistan .. offocurse the ultimate target is the nukes and a strong presence in the region to coutner china iran .. and the list goes on .. BUT the point is .. although this drama took place, there was a failure on our end .. now it remians to be seen whose fault is it .. but i want head rolling .. coming to the point of dismissing the heads to our armed forces or agencies and that we should not tow the american line of getting our house in order .. i do no beleive in it .. i m not towing their line as i m not asking for a resignation because i beleive ISI was dileberaly keeping OBL there .. no sir no .. i believe this was a drama staged .. but the mere occurrence of this drama suggests that there was a failure .. the failure was in finding and exposing this drama .. now i do understand that govt might have issued illegal visas .. but then i do not expect my intelligence agencies to to go though the list given to them and then investigate .. a donkey can be trained to do that .. the very purpose of intelligence agency is to find out such state/non-state actors that conspire against the nation .. so in this regard there is a failure ..

    and i m not excluding our govt from this drama .. they very well could be the silent partner in this crime .. so their heads must also roll .. but again the purpose of our agencies in to counter external and internal threats ..

    in regards with resignations, i do not think ISI is merely pasha niether is army limited to kiyani .. people come and go .. institutions remain .. no human being is indispensible .. are u telling me that pasha sahab is of critical importance in this war against CIA .. wot happens if he (God forbid) die of an heart atack tomorrow .. would our army or agency fall on its head simply beacuse their one boss died (or wot happens when they retire) ... this is the very beauty of institutions .. they are not dependent upon people .. they are governed by policies .. people come and go and all of them carry forward the policies ..

    so coming to the point, a failure occured .. since we do not have the precedent of moral resignations in our country, there should be an enquiry and each and everyone responsible should be fired irrespective of their profession .. someone should be blamed and the responsible should suffer .. that's the only way forward otherwise failures would keep repeating

    P.S:- i still stand by my army and agencies .. they are critical for our survival .. and this is where i disagree with nota .. as i have said earlier many times .. a general is different from army .. we can and should critisize any corrupt general, but not the ARMY as an institution .. our general may be incompetant, our army aint

    Posted 1 year ago on 12 May 2011 17:39 #
  10. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    The international power games have gone too deeply rooted. China's participation is yet hidden.

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 May 2011 12:32 #

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