GOOGLE
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CIA took revenge for Reymond Custody by attacking a Qabaili Jirga. Many Khasa Dar (Khasa Dars are similar to police force in FATA area and they are kind of Govt. employees and paid by Govt) and Qabalii Maliks are reportedly dead.
Main reason behind this attack seems to give warning to ISI and Pakistan ARMY: DONT Mess With CIA" OTHERWISE create more problem for Pakistan and Pakistani people
Current Death Figure is 40.
Abdul Rahman
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War criminals continue genocide and the traitors fiddle and rejoice business as usual
Suspected U.S. Drone Strike in Pakistan, 38 Killed
By REUTERS
Published: March 17, 2011
MIRANSHAH, Pakistan (Reuters) - A U.S. drone missile strike on Thursday killed at least 38 suspected militants in a Pakistani tribal region known as a haven for Taliban and al Qaeda fighters, Pakistani intelligence officials said.
There were conflicting accounts about the target of the attack and those killed in the Datta Khel region of North Waziristan. The death toll was one of the highest in a drone missile strike.
The area is a stronghold of Hafiz Gul Bahadur, a Taliban commander who harbours and sends militants across the border to fight Western forces in Afghanistan.
One official said the missiles targeted a house as elders loyal to Bahadur were trying to mediate between two warring militant groups inside.
Another official said the drone attacked a vehicle in the area that was passing by a house where local tribesmen were holding a meeting, killing them. A tribesman in the area supported his account.
"It wasn't a militant gathering, but a meeting of tribal elders from Ismail Khan village to sort out some differences over a business deal," tribesman Zia-ur-Rehman told Reuters.
"One of Bahadur's commanders, Sharabat Khan, was also present at the meeting as he is also a local elder, but they were discussing business."
There were conflicting reports about whether Khan had been killed in the attack. It was not immediately known if those in the vehicle were also hit.
The United States has been attacking al Qaeda-linked militants for the past few years in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas using drones, which are a source of worry for the government because civilians casualties inflame public anger and bolster support for the militants.
North Waziristan, where most of the drone attacks have occurred, is the only one of seven Pakistani tribal regions where Pakistan's army has not yet launched any major operation against the militants.
Washington has in recent months mounted pressure on Pakistan, its nuclear-armed ally, to go after militants in North Waziristan. Pakistan has said it will do so but on its own schedule and when adequate resources are available.
toamin
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Dozens killed in single move, poor defenceless civilians of Pakistan looking for help while Kiani & Pasha are busy celebrating successful release of Devis-
oneUp
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ISI and army don't have the b@lls to take panga with CIA...ek RD ke case mein inki hawa nikal gayee . aukaat kya hai is pasha aur kiyani ki?
Interesting...Govt is now admitting the dead "militants" were civilians and police
KP governor accuses US over civilian deaths
ISLAMABAD: A provincial governor in Pakistan’s northwest on Thursday accused the United States of killing civilians and police officers in a drone strike in the troubled tribal region, a statement said.
I strongly condemn this drone attack. “A tribal jirga (council) was targeted in which several tribal elders and tribal policemen were martyred,”said Syed Masood Kausar, the federal representative of northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.
“We want to make it clear that the government of Pakistan and its people will not tolerate such attacks. These attacks are against the sovereignty of Pakistan,” the statement added.
(Oh you will tolerate it you fvcking wh*re!)
shirazi
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US drone fired four missiles into a suspected hideout of militants on Thursday, killing 80 of them.
The strikes took place in the Datta Khel area of the North Waziristan tribal region, the main sanctuary for Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters along the Afghan border.
The roughly more than 100 suspected militants at the meeting were allied with Hafiz Gul Bahadur, a powerful Pakistani Taliban commander in the area who has focused his efforts on fighting foreign troops in Afghanistan. The insurgents were discussing plans to send new groups of fighters across the border.
The most senior militant killed in the attack was Sharabat Khan, Bahadur s top commander for the Datta Khel area, who was leading the meeting. Several foreign militants were also killed in the attack.
The United States began firing missiles at militant targets in Pakistan in 2004, but the pace of the attacks picked up dramatically in 2008. Last year, there were around 120 strikes, which are believed to be carried out by unmanned drone aircraft launched either from Afghanistan or from inside Pakistan.
There have been around 20 so far this year. Most of the strikes this year and last have been in North Waziristan.
I am remeating this comment because of the balatant lie posted above to hide the truth:
Interesting...Govt is now admitting the dead "militants" were civilians and police
KP governor accuses US over civilian deaths
ISLAMABAD: A provincial governor in Pakistan’s northwest on Thursday accused the United States of killing civilians and police officers in a drone strike in the troubled tribal region, a statement said.
“I strongly condemn this drone attack. A tribal jirga (council) was targeted in which several tribal elders and tribal policemen were martyred,”said Syed Masood Kausar, the federal representative of northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.
“We want to make it clear that the government of Pakistan and its people will not tolerate such attacks. These attacks are against the sovereignty of Pakistan,” the statement added.
(Oh you will tolerate it you fvcking wh*re! and cvnts like @shirazi will spin it)
shirazi
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@nota
I don't need to spin it's already a turning track :)
Hussain Farooqui
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As expressed by some friends on this thread, the fresh drone attacks can be warning signals to ISI. The Americans probably want to give a clear message that their subversive activities should not be thwarted. The Americans want ISI to realize that Pakistan is just their colony against their unfruitful aid.
kulla
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This is frustrating and sad. Now imagine what the families for the drone attack victims are going to do.....
ISI/GHQ and our politicans are the sole people to blame for this entire mess. Untill we change our rulers we will always be slave to the US.
People of Pakistan are worth zero to our ruling elite and unless they know what we are worth, they will continue to consider this as collateral damage and a means to earn more Financial and Military Aid.
toamin
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look at our local news channel's reporting above worst than Fox news, sure they get funds from this war other wise they would never give it "american color" to this large scale massacre of muslims-
Hussain Farooqui
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kulla
No strong leaders in the history of Pakistan were allowed by the American CIA to rule over long periods of time. These weak rulers like Zardari and Reza Gilani become their mere puppets for saving their seats.
kulla
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Height of begherati...they probably are making money out of it..specially knowing that our journalists get to go to the US for training courses etc etc ..
kulla
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HF, the issue is also our own begherti because we are all sellouts. Our political parties have no loyalty to pakistan but only to their own desire to be in power and hence sells out to the US. IF none of the parties or majority would be loyal to pakistan they would not lissen to the US just to topple the other party in power.
toamin
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Even BBC's reporting is some what better than our local sell out media outlets:
مقامی لوگوں نے بتایا ہے کہ آج دتہ خیل کے نئے بازار کےقریب مقامی قبائل کا پہاڑ کی ملکیت پر جرگہ تھا جس کے لیے لوگ کھلے میدان میں موجود تھے۔
لوگوں نے بتایا کہ اس دوران امریکی جاسوس طیارے نے ایک مشتبہ گاڑی کو نشانہ بنایا جو جرگے کی جانب آ رہی تھی۔ مقامی لوگوں نےکہا کہ باقی تین میزائل جرگے میں شامل افراد پر داغے گئے ہیں۔ سرکاری سطح پر اب تک اس کی تصدیق نہں ہو سکی۔
مقامی لوگوں کا کہنا ہے کہ ہلاک ہونے والے افراد بے گناہ تھے اور ہلاکتوں میں اضافے کا خدشہ بھی پایا جاتا ہے۔
toamin
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Hello Mr. Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry
Any Suo motu notice on this massacre? ??
Hussain Farooqui
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Salam
Chaudhary is himself one of the imposters of the political dramas!
kulla
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what is interesting is our media, general public, courts and other political parties speak against the drone attack and DO something about this masacre. I am disgusted by Dunyanews to say 80 militants killed...
Since we made a big deal out of RD case, this is 40 times worst so what will be our reaction and our tattoo goverments reaction, and all the parties who have been scoring on RD issue.
oneUp
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@kulla they're sell outs sab ki aukaat bahir aa gai hai
thelosthistory
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we cannot trust americans.
they killed our top ranked 30 military officers including Gen Zia ul haq.
they want to make us weak
Hussain Farooqui
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All the deals between the USA and Pakistan have been gainful in the US interests and total loss-oriented in the interest of Pakistan. RD's losing deal is not the first of its kind in the Pakistani history.
kulla
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@HF,, i think RD deal is only a small thing as compared to other deals that we hav done. the only reason why RD got attension was because of media and hype created around it. The drone attacks are killing ppl left right and center every other day and it goes un noticed because the MEdia dos not cover it, there are no live pictures, there is no masala news in it, the media cant sell it.
The IMF has been on our backs like anything, destroying our economy, our development projects and poor mans back but no one is really interested in it because it doesnt get the same coverage.
The city life is aloof from all of this.
syedhussain
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I thought CIA and ISI relations are straightens after RD release. Look like the relations never were disturbed. Again a topi drama from our military establishment.
Hussain Farooqui
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kulla
The deals with USA have been very detrimental in the interest of the Pakistani public but very gainful in the interest of the Pakisani ruling class.
kulla
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@HF agree.
The question i beg is whats next, do we cry over spilled milk or focus on other more demanding issues we face daily.
Hussain Farooqui
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kulla
I agree with your viewpoint that we need to cut the roots of the mushrooms which are sprouting from time to time. RD case is one of the many mushrooms grown from those roots.
kulla
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We need to unite on key issues, and force our current goverment to accept our demands. I am not totaly sure how we will do that.
@Kulla,
No point of talking to the present Govt. They need to be kicked out of the office....
kulla
Member
whoever is next also, unless we show them ppl power, will do the same.
I think this govt has high stakes though so it will be easier to pressure them but i dont think the awam can be united because they follow their party leaders blindly.
toamin
member
اے غیرت مند اور محب دین جرنیلوں اٹھاؤ اس کیانی پاشا اور اس کے ساتھیوں کو اور گولی مار دو
یہ غدار ملت ہیں
اور بے بس و مجبور شہریوں کا دفاع کرو جس کی کہ تم نے قسم کھائی ہے
kulla
Member
@salam... funny.
GOOGLE
Member
Another USA's Poodle General Pervez Kiyani Issued a statement:
"Several innocent People are killed in the attack"
Mubarak ho...Kiyani naiN is hamlay ki "muzamat" ker di...**** ka bucha kehta hay "I have ordered the army to help the victims in any way they can" (instead of ordering his men to stop the attacks any way they can...)
Related:
What you sold us for
...Every self-respecting Pakistani is ashamed today. The memory of all of us is still resonating with the soul-scathing remarks of a US Attorney General, who once said: “Pakistanis will sell their mothers for 100 dollars.”
No matter how hard our ruling brass may try to absolve themselves of the responsibility for earning the nation this indignation, none of them would ever be; neither President Zardari nor Prime Minister Gilani, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani, ISI chief Ahmad Shuja Pasha and Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States, Hussain Haqqani.
Though the premise of Diyat (blood money) is there, Raymond had not only killed two Pakistani citizens in cold blood, he was also in all probability guilty of espionage and thus responsible for the killings of tens of thousands of innocent civilians who lost their lives in drone attacks, suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism taking place in every nook and cranny of the country. ...
kulla
Member
This is unbelievable. GHQ is the biggest american slave. We need to clean out our army as well as politicians.
We need ppl to unite. I think we have a solid case to reunite against these elite otherwise khaali peeli talk sey kuch nahee hoga
Truthlover
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zahid.ali
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barwa kiyani is saying we express solidarity and sympathy with the victims..BC we dont want you to express solidarity and sympathy we want you to F*CK those who did this..BC **** BARWA
shirazi
Member
ISLAMABAD: Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, on Thursday strongly condemned a US drone attack in North Waziristan that killed more than three dozen people, saying the missiles struck a peaceful meeting of tribal elders.
Gen Kayani called Thursday’s strike ”unjustified and intolerable” and said it was a violation of human rights.
In a statement issued by the ISPR, he said such acts of violence will take us away from our objective of elimination of terrorism.
Security of people of Pakistan, in any case, stands above all, he added.
Pakistan Army has already launched a protest in the strongest possible terms, said the statement.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/17/gen-kayani-condemns-us-drone-strike-in-nw.html
d0ct0r
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US Attorney General, who once said: “Pakistanis will sell their mothers for 100 dollars.”
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Time for all of us to get even with friggin' CIA ourselves. This spineless castrated General on extension can't even defend military sponsored tribal jirga against Militants so how could he be expected to defend the whole friggin' country.. He and that ISI's scum bag on extention are truly incompetent dimwits.
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The case of Ibad ur Rehman the guy who was runover by American agents Landcruiser is still very much unsettled..
A 7 seater LandCruiser was involved in that incident.So that means potentially 7 American agents(CIA Spies) could be onboard that vehicle when it fled the scene using wrong side of the road after running over this innocent man.
There is potential for money to be made by some daredevil Pakistanis.. Lots and lots of it. Rs200 X 7 = Rs 1400 Million.
How could you get your hands on these Rs 1.4 billion..
Well its easy,capture or entrap 7 Raymond type CIA agents that are roaming all over Pakistan and can be easily found and spotted. The News have even posted list of some of these friggin' CIA agents ..
Names of 55 US suspects on the loose.
Glenn Michael Prince, 820227896, 90 days single entry, Official; Andrew Jairam, 820444026, 90 single entry, official; Maricio Jose Cienfuegos, 820161853, 90 single entry, official; Mohammad Usman Khan Sarosh Nabeel Hussain, 820633215, 820598350, 90 single entry, Assignment Official Business; Mark Russell Miller, 820625491, 90 single entry, assignment (Off); Maurice Reiff Landes III, 820238481, 90 single entry, assignment (Off); Datch K Mita, 820336226, one year multiple entry, official; David Burke Hegwook, 820513536, one year multiple entry, official; Jeffery Joseph Hamer, 820612259, one year multiple entry, official; Richard Todd Drennan, 910148558, one year multiple entry, official; Toddie Lenaren Gray, 472901357, one year multiple entry, official; Paul Nicholas Samartan, 4595345886, one year multiple entry, official; Orlando Gabriel Ramirez, 407025311 one year multiple entry, official; Freddie Houston Mitchell li, 465621858, one year multiple entry, official; Russell Dawayne Maddox, 461091766, one year multiple entry, official; Kutaiba Aldandach, 452161218, 06 months multiple entry, business (DynCorp/DA); Jon Mach Emmick, 135027568, 06 months multiple entry, official (USG); David Allen Harper, 441069356, 06 months multiple entry, official (USG); Michael Russel Nevitt, 820537359, one year multiple entry, official; Nazir Hussain Arshad, 820675132, 90 days single entry, official; Bryan Frederick Schilling, 820528704, one year multiple entry, official; Williams Lee Oenttinger, 820406289, 90 days double entry, official; Steven Anthony Lamar Williams, 820505235, 90 days double entry, official; Michael Lee Webber, 820514813, 90 days double entry, official; Ralph Lewis Lewis Show, 78046096, 90 days single entry, official; Anthony Alan Anderson, 820667708, one year multiple entry, assignment; Stephen Robert Hood, 820673610, one year multiple entry, assignment; Michal Willard Hughes, 820667704, one year multiple entry, assignment; Alexander Donald Maich, 820667709, one year multiple entry, assignment; James Clifford Roberts, 820683039, one year multiple entry, assignment; Edward William Smith, 820673609, one year multiple entry, assignment; Gilbert Ernest Zuniga, 820667710, one year multiple entry, assignment; Tommy Forrest James Sr, 820377306, one year multiple entry, assignment; Jamie Ross Williams, 820441559, one year multiple entry, assignment; Lucas Michael Krasowski, 900038074, one year multiple entry, assignment; William Patrick Burns, 910126866, one year multiple entry, assignment; Frank K Moris, 910046912, one year multiple entry, assignment; Joshua John Meyer, 910097094, one year multiple entry, assignment; Cole Wayne Smith, 910118187, one year multiple entry, assignment; Mathias Myron Cottried Boehm, 910125390, one year multiple entry, assignment; Jason Edward Bierly, 910118182, one year multiple entry, assignment; Brabford Chase Hopewell, 910144261, one year multiple entry, assignment; John C Haberl, 910153705, one year multiple entry, assignment; Craig Alvin Johnson, 301470647, one year multiple entry, official; Theodre Lee Schnack Jr, 820679986, one year multiple entry, assignment; Patrick Dominick Harris, 820667701, one year multiple entry, assignment; Michel Daniel Brady, 820709204, one year multiple entry, assignment; William Peter Couture, 820709203, one year multiple entry, assignment; Edward Shaun Guice, 820709202, one year multiple entry, assignment; Dennis Micheal Harrington, 820709201, one year multiple entry, assignment; Thomas Richard Hathaway Jr, 820709400, one year multiple entry, assignment; Keith Ewn Hattori, 820709399, one year multiple entry, assignment; Geroge Otis Williams, 820709398, one year multiple entry, assignment; Craig Alvin Johnson, 820709397, one year multiple entry, assignment.http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4553&Cat=13&dt=3/12/2011
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Some more potential 'walking talking' Dollars..
More visas issued to DynCorp agentshttp://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=36488&Cat=2&dt=3/16/2011
Four Blackwater Agents Hung in Fallujah Iraq March 31, 2004
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/bodies-blackwater-usa-contrators-hanging-bridge
aftab arif
Member
General Kiyani go home and tell your repeated lies to your Mrs because most of us Pakistanis are sick of your 2 face rants.
Dusky
Member
@shirazi: Seems like pak army chief d!ck grown a new d!ck recently and he just want to poke around for testing purposes....
insaftak
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Go F@#% yourself General Mir Sadiq Kiyani
kulla
Member
@shirazi, the msg you posted clearly shows that Kiyani is only doing damage control infront of media because he knows that awam is angry. condemning of drones happens left right and center by our politcians but everyone knows that GHQ works with CIA for these drones and the CIA has tacit approval from pakistani goverment. See no evil, hear no evil policy.
Pakistani govt and military has probably condemed the drone attacks a few thousands time but by saying something will not bring back the lives lost nor will it comfort the families of the victims, it will also not stop the CIA. SO this is all BS by kiyani about strongly condemning etc etc... someone would be uterly stupid and naive to take the words for face value.
If the army was really sincere it would actually send a strong msg to the US by shooting down a couple drones but why would they do that.
Pakistan recently gave green signal by saying drones are effective. So when you ask to be hit, you will be hit!
kulla
Member
@bara... yea thats right.
oneUp
Member
is d@lla kiyani feeling the heat? he has never condemned them before....what about a coup within the army against this traitor?
d0ct0r
Member
oneUp
That condemnation is just a drama to cool down the fierce reaction of public..
oneUp
Member
@d0ct0r true. thats why I said is he fearing a coup within his army?
d0ct0r
Member
More than general public its those anti taliban tribal elders in datakhel that are questioning Pak army's commitment and sincerity,army sets up and make an anti militant jirga and then Americans bomb them..
d0ct0r
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d0ct0r
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Even MQM's clown Altaf Bi in his typical demonic style while addressing a rally celebrating his 27th barsi said that if Americans can pay Rs 200 million to the families of those 2 men killed in Lahore then they should also pay compensation (Rs100million x 41) to heirs of tribal elders killed by american drones..
He further said that 'qaum ki baytee' Dr Aafia didn't killed any one still he(Altaf ) is ready to give bloodmoney to US after extorting(bhatha) it from 180million Pakistanis. What ever amount would be collected,Babar Ghauri would match that amount from his pocket money and all of that would be paid to Americans to buy Aafia's freedom.
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