Rehman Malik, Fauzia Wahab continue to claim that all that is happening in Karachi is the work of Taliban, including ysterdays's murder of MQM MPA (of course MQM and ANP are themselves claiming no such thing. see e.g. Muttahida blames ANP for MPA’s killing).
Do you agree with RM?
32 killed in Karachi violence since that murder. I am sure RM will say all those were killed by 'Taliban' as well....
terrorist and politicians are now standing in the same row .
as long as my perception is concerned .
i can see no difference in terrorist and so called political leaders .
because both are causing equal damage to us .
i am merging another similar thread here :
Altaf terms Raza Haider's killing 'a grave tragedy'
(3 posts)
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asif86
Member
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=109631
Updated at: 2100 PST, Monday, August 02, 2010
Raza’s blood won’t go in vain: Altaf
LONDON: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Chief Altaf Hussain, strongly condemning the killing of MPA Raza Haider on Monday evening termed the incident ‘a grave tragedy’ and demanded a high level investigation.
In a statement, the MQM Chief said: “The Shahadat of Raza Haider is a heart-rending incident.”
He said Raza Haider remained associated with MQM since the early days of party’s movement and his ‘Shahadat’ is a great and irredeemable loss for MQM.
Altaf Hussain said his condolences go to the bereaved family members of Syed Raza Haider.
“Raza Haider’s blood will not go in vain,” Altaf Hussain maintained
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rehanahd
Member
Yes it is tragedy!!! but what is going on now!!!
Where is govt, where is police, where is MQM peaceful reaction...
The person being killed does not know why he is being killed and the person killing others doesnot know why he is killing humans...
Peaceful people r ruling streets like they were ruling before.. equipped with chemical ( phosphorous) they are targeting a poor ppl properties, markets, transport, and killing poor ppl... This is real face of insaniat we ppl have..
It seems MQM was waiting for such time, they have started burning city of light with their killing thoughts and chemical...
May God bless us all!!!! Mafia is ruling!!!!!
Posted 8 hours ago on 02 Aug 2010
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Beenai
Moderator
too many threads on Haider 's killing .
i m merging this one into the other thread .
for further comments ,please go there .
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/did-terrorists-kill-mqm-mpa?replies=4#post-167506
thanks
Beenai
Posted 1 minute ago on 03 Aug 2010
rehanahd
Member
Yes it is tragedy!!! but what is going on now!!! More than 46 precious lives of Transporters, rickshaw drivers and daily wagers mostly pakhtun have been lost... UNKNOWN YOUNGSTERS r ruling roads with weapons and satiating their thirst from Poor blood.......
Where is govt (PPP) , where is police n rangers, where is MQM peaceful reaction...RM is just a goon who is happy to see mic and speak even without thinking...
The person being killed does not know why he is being killed and the person killing others doesnot know why he is killing humans...MQM death squads under Saleem Shehzad is happy with Blood of poors...
Peaceful people r ruling streets like they were ruling before.. equipped with chemical ( phosphorous) they are targeting a poor ppl properties, markets, transport, and killing poor ppl... This is real face of insaniat we ppl have..
It seems MQM was waiting for such time, they have started burning city of light with their killing thoughts and chemical...
May God bless us all!!!! Mafia is ruling!!!!!
@rehanahd
"It seems MQM was waiting for such time, they have started burning city of light with their killing thoughts and chemical..."
Is is beyond them to bump this fella off (for some internal reason) and then use it for an excuse for this mayhem? False flags are nothing new. Remember Ashura blast and similar -- and immediate -- burning of the city?
yespakistanonly
Member
Few days before MQM gave a list of 150+, from differnt parties and claimed that they are terriost.
Govt refused it
Now MQM killed its own MPA to influance govt to capture those 15o.
@yespakistanonly
And right on the day it was asked in the Sindh assembly why no MPAs were getting killed...
@yespakistanonly
Lolzz...Conspiracy theories can you explain that by giving some basic facts and figures about karachi on what ground you discover that???
It's more of a political issue in my opinion. Blame ttp and SSP to avoid further damage - Malik just did that. Some one please ask him what were they doing all these months if the 'planners' were in custody since october. A nonsensical statement indeed.
Some guy "IntelTweet" is claiming TTP has already claimed responsibility:
Pak Taliban Spokesman: "Your Taliban brothers... were able to kill the apostate Shiite Reza Haider... along with 3 colleagues and his son."
about 1 hour ago via web
Reply RetweetThe Pakistani Taliban (TTP) have reportedly claimed credit for the assassination of "apostate" politician Reza Haider in Nazimabad, Karachi.
@gazi23
"Conspiracy theories"
Certainly not as bad as Rehman Malik's...
And the 'tweet'?....Oh come on!!!
yeah, why would someone want to exasperate the situation between MQM and ANP ... makes no sense whatsoever.
meh.
Its more like a Political gain behind that....He was an MPA from constituency which covers most dangerous areas of Orangi like Qasba calony and probably Paharh ganj or Kati Paharh what ever the name of that area is also included under his constituency....Their Land mafia is very active to such extent that they have also grabbed his property in that constituency as well...and most of land mafia their are armed Pashtuns from Waziristan region under the flag and protection of ANP because that area is fit for them to live due to mountain and its like heaven for land Mafia....MQM had been very vocal against them for couple of Months and even started pointing out names of people who are operational their as well so to keep them shut this might be the reason for Assassination as they would try to gain influence in that constituency by Ghunda gardi and when ever next by election held they could be able to get that seat through their member....
Another thing which is making some sense about Rehman malik's Sectarian organization theory is that many of those banned sectarian organization's members+Taliban commanders are also arrested from ANP areas of that constituency so it is also a possibility that ANP might have USED them to KEEP THEIR NAMES CLEAN because most Taliban commanders who are arrested in Karachi have been arrested from this area so at one point we see that no other Political parties(except ANP) can enter those areas be it PPP, JI/JUI or even PTI then how is that possible that those Banned outfit are working their without any problem???This is a big question and the answer is very simple current incident of Raza Haider gives a clue that they have SOME COMMON INTEREST involved...
rehanahd
Member
Rehman Malik is a goon who never think before speaking.. He is trying to divert public from real issue...
The issue is a mafia war going on between PPP, MQM and ANP sleuths!!!!
In last six months 100s of people hav been killed in so called target killing... What Zulfiqar Mirza, Rehman Malik, ANP and MQM have done!!!!
NONEEEE
BCOZ all of them r involved in land grabbing and eating Haleem together....
Foolish workers & poor public is to suffer and die only....... They r enjoying Haleem Parties together..
twin_cities
Member
MQM has long history of killing its own leadership and workers. This episode at a time when our country is facing the worst disaster in the shape of devastating floods has some meanings.
Asif Ali Zardari was being criticized for taking a leisure trip to Europe at a time when nation needed the leadership to be with poor people facing the brunt of natural disaster. To divert the attention of public through media this killing is very much suspicious.
Zardari's record is very dubious and he can go to every extent to achieve his nefarious objectives. Even in PPP many people think that he is behind the murder of Benazir. Murtaza Bhutto's daughter Fatima openly says that Zardari is behind the murder of his father. Moreover, Altaf has very close relations with Indian agencies and they use him all the time to create unrest in Karachi.
Troika of Zardari, Altaf and RAW is very dangerous for the very existence of Pakistan.
@rehanahd
Rehman Malik has been saying same thing which MQM had been saying for ages but no one paid attention to that and now we have the result of it as one MPA assassinated and many shops burned so now who is responsible???
Talking about MQM they have done quite alot to get things under control like Governor Sindh came up with plan of Anti encroachment cell in Karachi and due to that Govt. tried retrieve Cottage Industry's land as well and MQM had given list of people who were involve in all that countless times but no action was ever taken against those elements...
@gazi23
"Rehman Malik has been saying same thing which MQM had been saying for ages but no one paid attention to that and now we have the result of it as one MPA assassinated and many shops burned so now who is responsible???"
Funny...I thought MQM was blaming ANP and RM blaming 'Outside Elements'. As far as who is burning shops,etc., I am sure everyone is very clear on that.
Talking about MQM they have done quite alot to get things under control like Governor Sindh came up with plan of Anti encroachment cell in Karachi and due to that Govt. tried retrieve Cottage Industry's land as well and MQM had given list of people who were involve in all that countless times but no action was ever taken against those elements...
Oh so this is what you call "things being under control"? Funny :) Even funnier is the example you give of MQM's success ("Governor Sindh came up with plan of Anti encroachment cell") but then in the same breath you tell us it was a complete failure ("no action was ever taken")
@nota
""Funny...I thought MQM was blaming ANP and RM blaming 'Outside Elements'. As far as who is burning shops,etc., I am sure everyone is very clear on that.""
MQM blamming ANP on the basis of Shahi Syed's press conference in July 2010 and also on the basis of elements that are making these situation are mostly traced in ANP influenced areas of Karachi whether its Taliban, banned outfits, Land mafia, Drug mafia or illegal arms suppliers...So when they are all traced their so whom should MQM blame???Srilanka???
"Oh so this is what you call "things being under control"? Funny :) Even funnier is the example you give of MQM's success ("Governor Sindh came up with plan of Anti encroachment cell") but then in the same breath you tell us it was a complete failure ("no action was ever taken") "
Oh my goodness am I arguing with some school kid???Dont know where to start you explaining but lets try....First understand the difference between TRYING TO GET things under control and BEING under control because I obviously used the word TRYING TO GET not BEING so take it in that prospective instead of coming up with your own...Another thing I didnt said that Anti encroachment cell was some success but IT WAS AN EFFORT by MQM and read the part that you have quoted in the end once again because that PART was QUOTED FOR LIST OF 150+ PEOPLE....
junaid
Member
"Some guy "IntelTweet" is claiming TTP has already claimed responsibility:"
TTP had also claimed responsibility of zulfikar ali bhutto murder
dont worry GOTK; this place wont turn into a bloody savage state a secular state
rashidsaleem
Member
I think the demented terrorists have made efforts like in the past and this is what they do best that is kill innocent people.
So once again Taliban mafia has accepted the responsibility of killing an MPA. This is terrible; taliban terrorists have destryed peace in FATA/PK and now they wantto do the same in Karachi. I have been long warning about their advances into other large cities of Pakistan and this murder in broad day light verfies my anxiety. Only solution to fight this terrible mafia is to wage a full scale war against them and kill all of them; no arrest no courts, just simply shoot every terrorist at sight. They have been sending thier brainwashed kids to our cities and thousands of innocent Pakistanis have lost their lives and our response has been slow and lukewarm. It is high time to take strongest action against taliban criminals and their supporters. New anti-terror law should be enforced immediately.
@bitterlies
Just for you.... What a 'tweet' you are :-P
@nota
Your beloved taliban terrorists are on the run and new anti-terror law will give extra powers to Police to catach taliban criminals and my view is to kill all of these terrorists as they do not deserve any mercy. Govt should also bring a strict law (arrest them and put them in jail to rot for life) for cyber fasadis who support taliban terrorists. Enough is enough and now it is time for real action.
@bitterlies
"catach"??? :-P
@lota
Do not worry about spelling; just read the contents.
Can anybody find similarity in Israel and Karachi.
If a jew is killed in Israel, they consider his blood so precious that they avenge it by killing atleast 50 palestanians. What about Karachi???
Why is everybody crying out so loud on Karachi? As if the floods have stopped, FATA and KP are Eden Garden. 50 dead in Karachi have made the lives of northern folks absolutely meaningless.
@barackobama
"Why is everybody crying out so loud on Karachi? As if the floods have stopped, FATA and KP are Eden Garden. 50 dead in Karachi have made the lives of northern folks absolutely meaningless."
Or Zardari in London as if he will come and fix it all...The next big story is the suicide bombing in Peshawar to take attention away from the biggest floods in 80 years...
@barackobama
"Why is everybody crying out so loud on Karachi? As if the floods have stopped, FATA and KP are Eden Garden. 50 dead in Karachi have made the lives of northern folks absolutely meaningless."
May be this could help!
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