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Disadvantages of Fashion

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  1. Dear Friends
    We are living in the world dominated by the Media Mafias. I would call them Mafia because they are acting in such a way. They manipulate the facts and they provide wrong information. They are attacking on our culture by promoting new and harmful trends in area of fashion and life style. Before going further let us see what is fashion.

    Fashion is perplexing, intriguing, irritating and, above all, compulsive. Like it or not, fashion exerts a powerful hold over people-even those who eschew it. While reactions to fashion are ambivalent, there is no doubt that clothes matter. The old adage that clothes make the 'person' still counts, while the wrong look for a particular occasion can have disastrous consequences. But how knowledge about appropriate dress codes can be acquired? How are everyday codes of dress constructed and modified by new styles? How do the ways we clothe the body contribute to the performance of the 'self' or person? There are no easy answers to these question thus one can say fashion perplexes and we are bound to follow the trends without thinking much about it.

    Fashion can be pretty confusing. You may think you know what’s in and what’s out, but how do you find out for sure? You’d need to consult some kind of expert someone with vast fashion experience, someone who knows everything about fashion

    The fashion merchandising industry will try to manipulate your desire to be fashionable. There are whole departments full of people whose paychecks are earned solely by selling to you based on what’s fashionable. That being said, be wary of advertisements for “the newest fashion” if it’s not really something you want. I’m not going to give you the whole “be yourself, make your own fashion” speech. Just don’t let people sell you something that you didn’t walk into the store to buy.

    If you want to go all out with fashion, you need to be able to keep up with it. After all, one of the major drawbacks of fashion is that it can change quickly and without notice. My point? Be alert. Don’t go around in an oblivious cloud of how awesomely fashionable you are, or when you pull out, you just might be horrified to find yourself—dare I say it—NOT FASHIONABLE! Oh, why? Why?! So, as you can see, all-out fashion is a dangerous toy to play with. Of course, far be it from me to deter you from your dreams of being fashionable; just make sure you can stay aware of when something falls out of style. This is why I tend to leave serious fashion to the professionals.

    I wish I could just come out and tell you what’s fashionable and what isn’t, but there are two reasons that I can’t. 1: If we apply the rule stated inn the above paragraph, it stands to reason that anything that I type now will have fallen off the face of the fashion planet
    Apart from these difficulties fashion can take away from culture.

    Here are some examples in females that is making them almost nude.

    1. The trousers of females are going up and up and one can easily see their shin (lower leg)
    2. Cut (Chalk) of their shirts are going wide and above their buttocks to their waist and one can see the buttocks of females easily

    These are just two examples of fashion which make our modest girls almost nude to others according to our eastern standards

    Let us take examples in boys.

    1. Pants of boys are slipping down and they have reached to just above their hips that gives them strange look.
    2. Sleeves of their Shirts are going up and up we can see the armpits of them.
    3. Blind followers of movies are getting tattoos on there arms and chest to follow their heroes.
    So we can conclude that fashion makes us crazy, we play at the hands of others and if we look at the fashion changes carefully it can make us laugh. Furthermore it is making us more and more nude and thus taking away our modesty.

    I therefore humbly suggest to avoid following fashion blindly but one can change the style of dress and other things after careful consideration and analysis. After all we are educated.

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 4:44 #
  2. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Like the Punjabi Movies, our tele-media hardly reflect any real culture of ours. When I was a student in Karachi, I sometimes happened to see the glimpses of Punjabi films and then I shared my impressions with my Punjabi friends and Punjabi teachers. My Punjabi friends and Punjabi teachers told me that the things shown in the Punjabi films have nothing to do with the culture of Punjab. Later when I toured Punjab after growing up, I myself saw that there was nothing common in real Punjab and the Punjabi films. The only thing common in Punjab and the Punjabi films was the dialect only.

    Similar is the case of our tele-media, they are reflecting a culture which has hardly anything to do with Pakistan.

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 6:27 #
  3. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @Pakistani47......if you are so disgusted by fashion industry, stop watching them....easy way out!!!!

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 6:43 #
  4. @SultanKhan
    Isn't it bad when you see Pakistani guys wearing American flags as shirts or caps? Just on the name of fashion

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 8:35 #
  5. shaagird
    Member

    its true....
    there is a huge class of youngsters as well as middle aged people who considers dressing the way you've described as a sign of open mindedness.... they may dress up very 'westernly' but they are the most orthodox kind
    when such people speak, they lack so miserably on the intellect...... just like their mullah counterparts.... there is a certain group who is actually very complexed.... they feel ashamed of the pakistani identity.... and pretends to be a complete westerner...... just like a group of mullahists act and behave like arabians

    both these extremes are against our own sub continental culture, adaab, values and rich history.....

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 8:49 #
  6. sultanalikhan
    Member

    LifeH2O...I agree it is in bad taste....but my saying so will not change the mentality being referred to, will it? i don't think so.

    So whats the point in wasting time on such trivia??

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 14:06 #
  7. @shaagird totally agreed.
    @sultan i don't know if any of the discussions started on this site has changed any mentality.

    @Rhyme if you are reading this, I have intentionally ignored women in this thread. :)

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 16:14 #
  8. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @LifeH2O.....tolerance is one thing we have lost in our daily dealings....all I am saying is Live And Let Live...

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 5:22 #
  9. shafiq12
    member

    sultanali khan

    i have a very personal question to you --- Suppose you have a son and he wants to live with beer/drugs -- or he wants to be live a life of drunkard --- will you allow him to do?

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 5:37 #
  10. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @Oblivion.....This is exactly what I am against, turning general kind of debate into a personal finger pointing....I am not going to answer your question as it has no merit in it....

    Relax bro, those whom you are opposing definitely have parents and if their parents do not have problem with them why should you bother???

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 5:45 #
  11. longer and loose shirts are in fashion.
    which is a way better fashion than shorter and tight shirts.

    i think,one has to follow the fashion,according to his values,culture,age,weight and profession.

    every fashion is not for everybody.

    though,frocs are in fashion.
    i never ever wore froc, as i dont think,it suits me.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 5:58 #
  12. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    A fashion show is a healthy activity as long as the dresses being shown are not reflecting any obscenity. In a healthy fashion show, creativity and newness of of fashion designers are demonstrated. Just the demonstration of nudity and obscenity is not a healthy activity. It is just like boosting nudity and obscenity in the name of fashion shows.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 6:06 #
  13. sasherwani
    Members

    Pakistan may trend hay kay har cheez par aiteraaz karo. Ab fashion kay peechay par gaye hein. Kal kahein gaye, Juice na piyo because the name rhymes with Jews.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 7:28 #
  14. Fashion is also a status symbol now. What kind of fashion you do represents your status too.

    Fashion is not just wearing weired stuff, those who are too much influenced by west also try their best to do all avtivities like them. This is the reason we have disco clubs, drunkards and now 'sheesha'.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 8:00 #
  15. @SultanAliKhan So at which point you will stop someone from doing a certain thing?

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 8:01 #
  16. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @LifeH2O...when he or she will impinge upon my privacy...

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 8:17 #
  17. Dusky
    Member

    @LifeH2O: "Sheesha" is not western, it's middle eastern. Very muck like "huqqa" in our villages but a lot less harmful.

    To answer the question - It's not the fashion, it's obscenity which is issue in society in general. For nudity one does not necessarily need to takes off the cloth, these days one sees one too many fully clothed with visible cup size to shape of buttocks.

    Now the new phenomena is Islamic fashion. What Junaid Jumsheed making so special in a Rs. 75,000 abaya? Or checkout the ladies clothing line recently introduced by Shahid Afridi, check the pictures, all models have their face cover, but seriously does it make it hala?

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.269748616368644.76339.111905508819623&type=1

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 16:43 #
  18. @SAK
    @Pakistani47......if you are so disgusted by fashion industry, stop watching them....easy way out

    Well your suggestion is quite good but what should one do when see male and female on roads and street. Close the eyes??

    It is not disease it is symptom of horrific mental disorder. Thes people are suffering from severe inferiority complex. We have forgot our values, our culture and traditions.

    Eastern values modesty are still visible even in non muslims in eastern countries. But unfortuanely our so called fashionable class are neither Eastern nor Western.

    Na idhar kay rahay na udhar kay rahay.

    Many bloggers on this website live in foreign countries. I am sure they must have experienced some sort of discrimination because of their colour and origin. Western people will never consider ourselves equal to them. Publically they say lot of good things but practically it is not the case. Please come out of stateo denial.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 16:59 #
  19. @Dusky these women are looking more like a pirate :P
    I can not say more than what Beenai said above. Basic rules of culture and/or religion should be preserved no matter what kind of fashion you are doing.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 17:13 #
  20. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    A lot many problems are occurring in our society due to the lack of healthy and affordable entertainment.

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 7:27 #
  21. shafiq12
    member

    farooqui

    what do you mean by entertainment? please

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 8:00 #
  22. The brunt of fashion came with the industrial revolution. Just 200 year ago majority of our ancestors used to have only one color shirt; off-white or dirty white. Wouldn’t be incorrect if I say they had only one shirt, the master piece of the village weaver. Use of a sheet as a make shift attire while the main garment was being washed and dried was not uncommon.

    Industrial loom demanded a big consumption. The marketing kicked in and gave us the morning, daytime, evening and night clothes. The color of attire changed with the time of the day and occasion. That led to a completely new concept of a wardrobe. As discussed on this forum sometimes back the main reasons “Why man started wearing clothes” were
    (1) Protection
    (2) Compliance
    (3) Symbol of expression
    (4) Cover up and
    (5) Hyaa
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/why-man-started-wearing-clothes

    While one can say that today we fall for fashion because of compliance and symbol of expression, the main force behind it is still the marketing department of corporate world.

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 8:08 #
  23. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @Pakistani47....what you are saying is all music to ears so long as the theory goes, but what exists in reality is totally different from what you are boasting about value, moral, culture and other blah blah blah on the street of Pakistan...

    By the way what are the "values", "traditions" and "culture" you are talking about? can you name them please? I mean name those that exist on the street and in the households of Pakistan and not some sensational speech you may be tempted to deliver. Better yet, name one pakistani institute that is not corrupt, one way or the other...worse still, there are so many pseudo religious scholars (more than we really admit) around who would say or do anything if the right price is paid.....and surely all this rot in society is not due to Fashion, or is it?

    Just for the sake of your knowledge, those Pakistanis living abroad do love their country as much, if not more, as any of those living inside it.....You will be surprised to see Pakistanis living abroad are much more God fearing than their countrymen living in it, and ruining it, gosh!!!!

    So Please Save Your Sermon For Someone Else!!!

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 8:14 #
  24. shafiq12
    member

    Relax bro, those whom you are opposing definitely have parents and if their parents do not have problem with them why should you bother???

    SAK
    I am relax, please waiting for your answer --

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 8:21 #
  25. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @oblivion...yeah do that because it is good for mind, body, and soul.....

    as for my answer, well, had you read my response up there you would have known my answer to your query...nothing more coming your way!!!

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 8:56 #
  26. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    oblivion

    There are no melas, marathon races, sports matches, organized sports events,,etc.. All such activities are badly lacking. There was a time, when even poor people of Layari-Karachi had events like donkey cart racing, Pathan truck-drivers used the vacant plot of Civic Centre as their wrestling arena,,etc.. All such healthy activities have died.

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 9:02 #
  27. shafiq12
    member

    SAK
    Is it mean, you choose something else for others? You are quite personal about your personal, This is very alarming --
    ==========================
    hussain farooqui
    what made such entertainment vanish, that is advancement, if there were no advancement then why would you be here

    Posted 8 months ago on 20 Sep 2011 9:29 #
  28. SAK,

    I am sorry to say you dont know about norms of discussion. I said about discrimination with Pakistanis living abroad, you said God fearing and patriotic.

    Well this is not sermon it is a thought provoking article and not addressed to you directly. It is not like many of the posts on this blog bashing one or other party or political leader.

    Discuss does not mean to criticize. With positive discussion we can bring changes in our lives and our thought process and learn good things from each other as nobody can claim to be perfect in any sense. Only Allah is Perfect.

    I read a quote somewhere that says. ("ILM BARA GHAYOOR HAY YEH BA ADAB SEENON KO APNA MASKAN NAHI BANATA.)

    I myself learn lot of good things on this blog. I owe alot to people like Abdul Rehman, Salam, Mirza Ghalib and many others (I am sorry if I forgot to mention name of anyother worthy member who have inspired me alot.)

    Posted 8 months ago on 21 Sep 2011 5:57 #
  29. @SAK
    A says: You are drinking water wrong, drink in a correct way
    Z says: What ever you do is none of my business until it effects me personally

    Aren't they two extremes?

    Posted 8 months ago on 21 Sep 2011 8:46 #
  30. spruce
    Member

    One of the disadvantages of fashion is that it may be uncomfortable to wear hip and stylish designs. Sometimes, the hottest fashion designers create body-conscious styles that are tight and even restrictive. High fashion footwear for women be also be also incredibly uncomfortable; in fact, the models who walk the runways in Paris and New York often stumble and fall (in front of a phalanx of photographers) because they must wear sky-high heels or platform shoes. Often, the fashions seen on runways are quite stylized and extreme; however, in real life, these extreme styles tend to be "watered" down for the general population.

    •Men's fashion can also be restrictive and uncomfortable - for example, many men hate wearing suit jackets and neckties. Suit jackets are often fitted tightly on the body, making it difficult to give the arms a full range of movement. Neck ties may make certain men feel choked or claustrophobic. Dress shirts with tight, stiff collars are cause discomfort in some men.

    •Fashion may also be out of reach to some people, who may be unable to afford the latest styles and accessories. In high schools, junior highs, and even elementary schools, boys and girls often judge their peers based on what they are wearing or which accessories they own; this is one reason why uniforms are chosen for certain schools.

    Another disadvantage of fashion is the way it is portrayed in mass media... Thin models wear clothes that highlight their unrealistic physiques. For many men and women, trying to look like male or female fashion models is very difficult, and this comparison between "ideal" bodies and normal bodies can cause body issues, such as body dysmorphic disorder. Anorexia, bulimia, and abuse of drugs and laxatives may all be practiced by males and females who try to attain the thinner bodies that are so prized by the fashion industry.

    disadvantages of fashion

    as a muslim we should not follow western fashion

    Posted 8 months ago on 21 Sep 2011 8:55 #
  31. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @Pakistani47......I respect your views and regret if I have caused any offence, in any way. I never intended to offend you, or anyone else for that matter.

    Having said that, let me say that you talked about discrimination against Pakistanis abroad, well, this is true to some extent but this does not bar Pakistanis from progressing. It does put a somewhat hurdle, yes, but a total impediment, nah, not true. If you are talking about discrimination then what about Pakistan? Can you say there doesn't exist any discrimination? So my point is discrimination exists every where, in one form or the other.

    As for the subject of the thread, in my view there is nothing wrong with fashion industry because such activities play their positive role and are necessary if a country is to move forward, progress and develop. Not directed at you Pakistani47, but my question is that when we talk about fashion industry why we always talk about vulgarity and obscenity? why don't we focus on the facts that it creates jobs, moves economy, provides artistic arena for creative minds, paints soft image of people and country, so on and so forth?

    Fashion doesn't mean to be nudity only, it has so many upsides as well. It can be good, and it can be bad, like any other industry or machinery. use of TV and Internet immediately comes to mind.There should not be any bars as it will kill the creativity and shackle imagination.

    There should be some regulations to protect the rights of customers and investors.......but no heavy-handed censorship in the name of protecting high moral values and character....

    LifeH2O....no, they don't appear to me extremes but different point of views......and i respect both!!

    Posted 8 months ago on 21 Sep 2011 9:30 #

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