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Do you believe in Pakistani Boundries???

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  1. netengr
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    Most Pakistanis are now saying that if there is a war in another muslim world then this is must to help and cross the border of Pakistan and it is legitimate .if pakhtoon is helping pakhtoon taliban then it is Ok .

    I want to ask to pakistani nation is

    Do you believe in Pakistani boundries or not .
    if you do not believe in boundaries then there is no concept of the country .
    If all muslim world in not the one country and every one has its own interest and all countries are on the nation state .and all are based on language ,race or territory .the concept of one country based on Islam can never be fulfill so country should see its own interest .Most mulims issues are political not really on religion and these issues are common in every religion .
    If paktoon people are legitimate to cross the border and support other country then how about if india support hindus in pakistan ? how about if pakistani punjabi will support indian punjabi ,should all pakistani will be allow to cross the border of pakistan and invade india or china to support muslims on the other side ????
    If pakistan is muslim state (darul eman ) and india is )darul kufr then would pakistani people will welcome all indian muslims in pakistan ??? ..How about if 2 muslim countries fights and the third muslim countries people should participate in it ?.

    bottom line is that all muslim countries are the nation state and every country has its own interest ,muslim world has issues but movlies are using as "ISLAMIC ISSUE " and making this war islam and kufr war .there is injustice also in not muslims countries and they fight in their own political area .

    In afghanistan situation ,Alqaida declare the war even before 9/11 and taliban were supporting him .that war was on political issue not on the religious issues .that war is between was with taliban ,USA and alqaida So please save our pakistan by there kind of concept and secure our boundaries .

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 20:28 #
  2. pkimage
    Member

    No country can justify crossing his boundries in any condition. We Pakistanies have no food for ourselves, we have no education, no leadership, we cant support our own families, we dont offer prayer, we have no knowledge of islam, we help no islamic system, we are not real islamic state, .... but we want to win concure all the World, we want to defend whole islamic world, why want behave like this. China is not an Islamic state but it has proved to the world that if you want you need hard work,sincerity, you need to follow law...
    If we need to improve we all have to improve ..... but we can blame others withour looking at ourselves individually

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 20:37 #
  3. netengr
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    We have to differentiate between what islam has defined "dunya " and what is "deen" .All the problems are related to "dunia " only as prophet (PBUH) worried about his ummat which would love dunia then deen

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:00 #
  4. Londonistan
    Member

    @netengar

    You mean the boundaries created by France, England and other European powers after first and Second World War? Of course these are artificial boundaries. These aren't sacred as Western civilization wants us to believe. Sooner or latter these are bound to collapse. It’s just a matter of time.

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:05 #
  5. pkimage
    Member

    Why we always blame west for our suffering and division. Why not we say that we facing problems cause of our own faults.
    @ Londonistan
    How can it be possible?

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:13 #
  6. Londonistan
    Member

    @pkimage

    Watch the interview of Robert Fisk and it will answer why we blame them. As for Khilafah, this is a promise of Rasool Allah and Quran as per our Iman. And well being a only nation with its own organized code of conduct and Sharia Law, it’s an obvious out come.

    Plenty of information on http://www.khilafah.com

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:25 #
  7. pkimage
    Member

    Is there any country where to implement Sharia Law properly... first we have to show

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:31 #
  8. Londonistan
    Member

    Pakistan is the best candidate!

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:46 #
  9. pkimage
    Member

    lol ....

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 21:54 #
  10. netengr
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    @londonistan

    If you believe all muslims shouls live in one state there there is no point to live mulims in the west .including urself

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 22:15 #
  11. pkimage
    Member

    he wants all world including west also.... I have already said Khilafa revival is now not possible ...just waist of time

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 22:17 #
  12. netengr
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    the countries and the states always formed by either race ,territory or common resources .lets suppose if they will be able to form state on name of islam all around the world but people will fight each other on the resources ,lets say saudi arabia would never want to share his wealth with bangladesh .and if resources will be distributed equally then the rich areas will never get their royalty and never be rich .

    thats why i want to request never mixed with "dunya "with "deen " .other wise we will always be confused

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 22:29 #
  13. pkimage
    Member

    If you understand deen you can make dunya happy for all. Actually what has happened west has studied our deen very critically and they picked the moral values and concept of welfare state and now applied it , they are enjoying the benefits. we still want Khilafa ... can khilafa change our mind.

    Posted 3 years ago on 01 Oct 2008 22:38 #
  14. aliawais
    Member

    well right now its not the time for beleiving in boundries ! For a nation this situation is to Stand Up and ask their govt. to take an independent Stand against every country who is appreciating war on terror and to say that we r going to decide now who enters in pakistan. not any bloody US senator or British parliment member !!!

    The thing is we should change our policy on *war on terror*...this isnt difficult...parliment just hv to pass a bill...But yeah this is difficult for Zardari, Gillani and other PPPPzzz....or otherwise...its not far tht *they* are gonna land their troops in NWFP from all the support from so called *UN* which is good for nothing organization. America is the new Alexander...he just want all the world to obey him. :)

    Posted 3 years ago on 05 Oct 2008 23:33 #
  15. netengr
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    If People believe that all muslims would should be one sate then it can never happen ,As 2 people cannot share their salaries so the all countries can never become one ,Can pakistan like to share its resources with banladesh ? or Saudi arabia can share resources with Pakistan ??? answe is NO .in modern era the country means that all the people should follow the rules in this country and if some one cross the border without government permision should be punish and also cannot come without Visa if applies . If people say that paktoons are on both sides so they can join the war freely if you accept this theory then if some people from karachi who ware migrated from india can make group and start war in india to help their muslims brothers ??? there are punajabis on both sides so can they cross the border and help each other ???

    If pakistan is for muslims and india for hindus then why pakistan does not open its border for all the muslims in india ???

    if some hindus or chiristian are affected in Pakistan ,can they call their hidu brother from india ???

    If we want to live peacefully then we have to live peacfully in our countries withen our boundaries .then there should not be issue by crossing the border to help to whatever reason.

    But if people believe that all mislims can move freely and can cross the borders so why you cannot accept all muslims in thier countries

    Posted 3 years ago on 06 Oct 2008 18:10 #

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