Ex-ambassador Umar Khan Alisherzai Join Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

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Ex-ambassador Umar Khan Alisherzai Join Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

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Ghost Protocol
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Hatred apart, Haqparasti ka message is spreading fast.

Posted 4 months ago on 17 Jan 2012 18:14 #
Pakistani84
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Lota Mubarik ho!!!

just giving you the taste of your own medicine.

Posted 4 months ago on 17 Jan 2012 21:54 #
Dusky
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After serving as career ambassador in foreign service he joined MQM... what a LOTA ;)

Posted 4 months ago on 17 Jan 2012 23:27 #
Pakistani84
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These are dime a dozen in PTI!!!!

Posted 4 months ago on 17 Jan 2012 23:48 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

But how about Sarfraz Nawas joining MQM? He has been in both PPP and PMLN.

This is the litmus for you - whether the kambal is with you or now.

Posted 4 months ago on 17 Jan 2012 23:51 #
Dusky
Member

Kambal is going to stay with me for life, aap kabhi tarbiyate nashistoon main nahee bathay:)

And sarfaraz Nawaz is a lota like Qasoori, Laghari, Qureshi and many more:)

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 0:20 #
quaidkamazaar
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I think MQM's message is spreading really fast.... people from areas devoid of resources are now supporting Altaf Bhai and Muttahida to get rid of feudal raj.

MQM is slowly but surely becoming a qaumi jamaat, more and more so everyday.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 5:29 #
Adonis
Member

Good for MQM that some ex-ambassador joined it.

But please stay sober and don't spin yarns like "MQM is becoming a "qaumi jamaat" and its "message" is spreading fast".

If you insist on saying such things, then instead of 'Current Affairs', this thread should be in the 'Fun and Jokes' section.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 8:29 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Why you missed JH?

;)

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 8:56 #
Hussain Farooqui
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Reforms are required in all the political parties.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 12:01 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

@Adnoise, self claimed un-biased but deeply racist in nature wont accept the truth of MQM as national party. But how and why does it matter?

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 17:20 #
Dusky
Member

@Pakistani84:

"Why you missed JH?"

I guess you missed "many others" in my reply :)

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 19:28 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Wah Wah! abi Javed Hashmi ko be lota bana do!

Ye hai mafia se taulaq ka natija. Jise PMLN wale bhi lota kehne se katrate hain, use besharmi se ek deshatgard aur bhattakhor aur political prositute jamat ka hamaiyti lota khe gaya!

What about Qauid-e-Azam, sisasi bonay sahab? He also changed his party.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 19:56 #
Dusky
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@Pakistani84:

"Wah siasi bonay, abi Javed Hashmi ko be lota bana do!"

Zara batain woh kasay nahee ha?

Quid nay asoolon per party badlee thee, aur qaid kay pas purani party ka leader ke dee hoi koi gari bhee nahee thee, nah hee qaid nay aik din pahlay tak purany leader kee tareefon kap pul bandhtay howa unhay "nijad dehenda" qarar diya tha!

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 21:16 #
justhuman
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Not a supporter or Fan of MQM mainly due to Altaf Hussain 's Antics on and off the Media and their shady past. But It is good thing that MQM is trying to include different better known faces from different areas of country. It will be a hard road for them ahead though. MQM minus Altaf Hussain surely has a far better chance. People should appriciate their efforts . While N League is trying to cut off Karachiites with their stupid threats of military courts and operations etc. , MQM is getting out of that shell and trying to connect other people. I wonder When people from different states and cultures from India have become one nation "Muhajirs" in Karachi. Why not Pakistanies from different provinces and cultures can become one Nation. An MQM without Altaf Hussain has far better chance to reach out and win in urban centres in pakistan.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 21:38 #
pakstar
Member

Why he did not join PTI..

Imran Khan propaganda is loosening ?

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 21:54 #
Dusky
Member

@pakstar: Nah, I guess he has better chances to become a senator or something with MQM then with PTI.

Posted 4 months ago on 18 Jan 2012 22:14 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

@justhuman, I m sure you are writing your sincere advise to minus AH from MQM.
AH has resigned from MQM's leadership for more than one time in past how workers responds to his resignation

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 15:49 #
sweettruth
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@Ghost Protocol

Will MQM accept everyone like PTI is doing these days? PTI is now known as biggest lota party of Pakistan. Election Commission is considering alloting LOTA as election symbol to PTI in coming election.

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 15:54 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

@ST, Although I have nothing to do with running of MQM's affairs, hence no idea about actual what will they do?
However, comparing MQM with PTI is not very fair, In PTI, nobody new anybody but IK that too coz of his cricketing glare then political achievements. They really needed some electables hence all the famous lotas ran to PTI and converted old PTI workers as minority.

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 16:03 #
sweettruth
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@Ghost Protocol

So what will happen to real old PTI workers? They all have been turned into minority because of tsunami of lotay. Not only their present is bleak bu also future is uncertain in PTI.

I feel sorry for old loyal workers of PTI; chances are none of them will get a party ticket to stand from any seat. Newly joined lotay will be given party tickets to contest election from PTI platform.

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 17:06 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Party change karna lotaism nahi hai. Wafadari nazriye ke saath hoti hai, party ke saath nahi. Yani, agar koi party aap ke nazreeya pe chal rahi ho, tu aap us party ke wafadar hotain hain, agar vo nahi, to aap baghi.

Qauid ne bhi yehi kia. Qauid bhi Gandhi ki respect karta tha, bare leaderon mein mutual respect hoti hai, vo mudslinging nahi kartay.

JH do char salon se NS ko criticize kar raha hai.
Waise JH ki respect to PMLN wale bhi kartain hain, behki behki fazool batain aur ghatiya ilzaam laga kar aab mafia ke supporter hone ka saboot de rahe hain.

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 18:04 #
Dusky
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""Party change karna lotaism nahi hai. Wafadari nazriye ke saath hoti hai, party ke saath nahi. Yani, agar koi party aap ke nazreeya pe chal rahi ho, tu aap us party ke wafadar hotain hain, agar vo nahi, to aap baghi.""

Yeah kon say nazaryat hain to aik rat main badal jatay hain? Aur aik din pahlay tak apnay sabqa leader kee shan main qaseeda parh raha tha. Zara un ke PMLN ke sath akhri taqreer utha leejeeay jo unhoon nat khawaja saad rafiq ka walid kee barsi per kee.

""Qauid ne bhi yehi kia. Qauid bhi Gandhi ki respect karta tha, bare leaderon mein mutual respect hoti hai, vo mudslinging nahi kartay.""

Kahan raja bhooj kahan gango taley....

Javed hashmi jasay tucha Qaid ke dhool bhee nahee hain. Qaid nay na kabhi kisi say koi special quota manga, na kisi say gari, plot liya aur na hee apnee aulad ko special seat per assembly ma bithaya. Yeah mowazna kar ket app kia sabit karna chah raha hain?

""JH do char salon se NS ko criticize kar raha hai.
Waise JH ki respect to PMLN wale bhi kartain hain, behki behki fazool batain aur ghatiya ilzaam laga kar aab mafia ke supporter hone ka saboot de rahe hain.""

Un kee respect un kay zati kirdar per ho rahee hay, siyasi tor per nahee. Baqi jo bhee jazbati bachoon ko ayna dikhata ha woh to hay he "syasi bona" ;)

Posted 4 months ago on 19 Jan 2012 20:27 #
Pakistani84
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Aap bhool rahe hain ke vo teen char saal se NS ko criticize kar raha tha. To kon se yakdam baat hoi?

"zaati qirdar" LOL! Us ke respect us ki siasat ki wajah se hai, uski Musharraf ka samna na jhukne pe hai.

Waise is qism ki discussion aap ke sar ke ooper se guzar gai ge kyun ke ek mafia ke supporter siasi wabastigion par kaise gehri nazar rakh sakta hai.

Aab bhatakhoron ke supporters hame "ayena" dekhayain ge?!

Mein aap ko jis thread mein cure kar rahan hon, wahan nosh farmayain. ;)

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 0:00 #
Dusky
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Us ka zati kirdar ha kah us per koi masahi burai ka ilzam nahee ha, us ka kirdar hay kah us na apnay leader sa jo wada kia us ko us kee ghar mojodgee main nibhaya. Yeah hashmi sahab ka kirdar jis kay liya woh mohatram hain.

Aur rahee bat NS per tanqeed kee, to bhai aik din pahlay tak to woh un kee tareef ka pul band rahay thay, aur aap ka sath anna ka bad bhee unhoon na NS kee tareef kee, kahan to aap ko akhbar kay tarashay dikhaoon? Yeah kis qisim ka tanqueede rawaya hay? Kam sa kam ghalat to ghalat to bolain;)

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 0:11 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Barhi hi fazool baat kartay ho. Musharraf ke khilaaf struggle siasi thi. Us ka siasi qirdaar bhi log izzat ki nigah se dekhtain hain.

Aur rahi baat NS ki tareef ki, to us ne ki ho gi, lekin jo mein ke raha hon vo bhi sach hai. Clips ke bare shoqeen hain aap, tu nikalon vo clips jis mein us ne kaha tha ke NS ko maafi mangni chaye Zia ki support par? NS ko mulk chor kar jane ki maafi mangni chahe? NS ko apne assasay mulk mein wapis lane chaye?

Ek taraf ketho ho ke aaj bhi vo NS ki tareef kar raha hai, is ka matlab hai vo "ek raat" mein nahi badla. Vo consistent hai.

Tareef mein bhi, aur criticism mein bhi!!!!

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 0:34 #
Dusky
Member

Kia bat hay, rand ka rand bhee rahay aur jannat bhee hat say na gayee.

NS ko mafi bhee mangni chayay aur dosra jumla, (PTI ma shamil honay kay bad) main aaj bhee samajhta hoon woh (NS) mulk ko bacha saktay hain....:)

Kia bat hay asa siyasi kirdar kee...:) aur huzoor mila rahain hain asa admi ko qaid say..:)
bhai aap to baghair sath ke howay sathayi hoyi batain kar raha hain.....

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 1:47 #
Pakistani84
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Kia mafia se wabastagi ki waja se aap ki aqal jaati rahi?

Kia contradiction hai is mein ke NS mulk ko bacha sakta hai aur NS ko maafi mangni chaye Zia-ul-Haq ke saath pe?

Bahi, us ke siasi qirdaar log izaat ki nigah se dekhtain hain.

Mein ne saabit kia ke vo consistent hai. Mein ne sabit kia ke vo saath reh kar bhi criticize karta raha. Us ka PMLn ke saath issues 4 years se char rahe the.

Koi achanak baat nahi hoi.

Aaap ek bar phir zid kar rahe hain.

Jis taranh mera leader ketha hai, MEIN ka bhut (idol) toor dalo. Mein na mano wali baat chor do.

Bahut kuch seekho ge. Qasm se.

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 19:53 #
Dusky
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Asan sa sawal hay aap kay liya, Agar JH kay khayal main aaj bhee NS Pakistan bacha sakta ha to woh sath Imran Khan ka sath koon day rahain hain? Kia unhay us admi ka sath nahee dana chaya jo un kay khayal main aaj bhee Pakistan ko bacha sakta ho? yeah un ka sath danay main un kay apnay sayasi mafadad per zarb perti hay?

Aur rahee bat mafee ke, to har us admi ko mangnee chaya jis na kisi bhee fooji dictator ka sath diya ho. JH apnay nay leader ke mafi ka mamla koon goal gargay? Kia yeah aik "consistent stand" nahi hota?:)

Bilkul sahi kaha aap nay, zara in shaqsi button ko tor ker agay to barhain aap, bohat kuch seekhain gain:) Azmish hay shart...

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 20:03 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Pehlo ek baat pe teheriye, phudak phudak ke idar idhor na jao.

JH is consistent. Ek raat mein saab khuch nahi badla. Vo char saal se NS ko criticize aur correct karne ki koshish kar raha tha.

Ye established ho choka hai, yaani aap ghalt the. ;)

Rahi baat NS aur mulk bachanay ki to shayed JH ye clear kar chuka hai.

"Mulk bacha sakne" mein aur "Mulk bachaya GA" mein farq hai. According to JH, NS has the opportunity, but he is showing incompetence and is surrounding by incompetent advisers. I personally believe NS had a huge opportunity to become a historic leader during long march, but he wasted thsi opportunity due to his cowardice and subsequent friendly opposition.

Mein aap ki ignorance pe wari jaon! JH ne Assembly ke bahir tamam lederon ka naam le kar, jin mein NS, IK, AZ aur dosron ka naam tha maafi ka kaha kisi dictator ka saath dene par. Ab agar aap ignorant hain to mein kiya karon?

JH ne khud bhi maafi mangi Zia ki cabinet mein hone ki.

Behr haal, IK ne usi dictator ke khilaaf struggle ki 6 saal tak aur is se ko benefit nahi liye jab saath bhi tha to. Meeri raye mein Zia aur NS ke karnamon se use compare nahi kia ja sakta. Lekin ye ek alag behs hai.

Shaksi button? Achi shaksiat ko tasleem karna bare pan ka display hai. Ghalt baat pe aarh jana aur zid karna chote pan ka. ;)

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 21:26 #
Dusky
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@Pakistani84:
Kia bay hay, yeah kab establish howa ka JH consistent hay? Agar consistent hota to NS kay sath hota, lota na ban gaya hota:)

Aur agar us ko yaqeen hay NS bacha sakta hay to us ka sath dana chaya, nah ka us ko chor dana chaya:)

Agar JH itna he mustaqil mijaz hota to PTI ma anay say pahlay IK say bhee mafi mangwata:)

Aur us dictator ka khilaf strugle is liya kee kah PMship nahee milee, to yeah angoor khatain hain wala mamla hay:)

Achee shaqsiyat tasleem karain bara pan aur achee chaqsiyat kay dhokay main bawaqoof banna himaqat hoto hay;)

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 21:53 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Yar phir mafia wali baat kar di na tum ne.

Mein ne aap ko bataya hai ke wafadari bande ke saath nahi hoti, nazriya ke saath hoti hai, lekin ek mafia ka banda shyed ye samajh nahi sakta.

JH consistant hai apne khyalat mein, apni opinions mein, apne stance mein, NS jaye bhar mein! Kiya samjhe?

Phir vohi baat? Samjhai hoi baat repeat karte ho, gande bacho ki taranh. ;)

Us ne kaha, NS is position mein hai ke bachah sakta hai, lekin na-ehli ki wajah se vo nahi kar pa raha. Is liye use chora. Policies par. JH chahta tha resignations dein, etc. Phir kuch asooli mamlat the yani assets mulk mein rakho. JH ye bhi kafi dinon se keh raha tha.

IK ne to pehle hi apni siasi ghalti pe maafi mangi hai, aur shayed ye JH ko pata chal gaya ho. ;)

PMship wali baat apne ghalt ki. Ye Musharraf ko jhoot hai, aap Musharraf pe believe kartain hain kyun ke vo aap ke leader ka baap hai? Nahi bahi, ye achi baat nahi hai. Reshtaydari alag baat, lekin saach baat ka saath do. ;)

Musharraf ke offer Imran Khan ke liye hi thi, lekin Imran ne usay thukraya. General Itesham Zameer jo ISI ka head tha aur sara political majara sambhal raha tha use confirm kar lo beshak!

Himakat to sach ko tukhrana bhi hoti hai...bahut bari hamakat!

Posted 4 months ago on 20 Jan 2012 23:26 #
Dusky
Member

@Pakistani84:

Ara bhai sirf mafrozat per he building banatay rahoo gay kia? main nay to aap ko JH kee inconsistencies bata deen, aap man nahee rahay to ma kia kah sakta hoon:)

IK ke mafi, yani no so chohay kh kat bee blee haj ko challen:) phir to kal zardari bhee mafi mang la ga corruption kee, to kia us ka gunha dhul gain gain?

Baqi sherwani to IK na silwa li thee, magar Genral PM na jhandee dikha dee, yeah to sab ko maloom hay, kisee bazameer say poochnay kee kia zaroorat ha:)

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 0:04 #
zingaro
Member

Again you guys started on MQM :) Anyway you should read the very recent statement of Ch. Shujaat (dated 20 Jan 2012) that he was asked about MQM absence from SC when PM appeared. Chaudhery sahib said they were not in the court but they were present in the Dinner at that night.

That is the reality of this party. Got it or not?

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 6:24 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

@Zingaro, two GK questions to you if you had your graduation

"How many provinces are there in Pakistan other than Punjab?
"What language is spoken in Balochistan?"

No promise for IPAD2 if you answer correctly however you 'll learn to live with fellow citizens.

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 8:57 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

@Adonis

i dont think you completely understand the reasoning behind my words earlier.

mqm is becoming qaumi jamaat because it has done more work to spread its message in Punjaab than ever before. also, MQM already has members from every ethnic background of Pakistan.

Sindhi, Punjabi, Pukhtoon, Balochi, all are in MQM. its just that you do not know.

when MQM raises voice for urduspeaking, u say they are not national party.... but when they raise voice for seraiki and hazara, u should admit they are national party now.

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 9:30 #
Ghost Protocol
Member

@QKM, Adnoise comments suggests he is himself is deeply racist hence has no right to accuse others for the same.

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 19:08 #
Pakistani84
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@Dusky,

Aap ne kon se JH ki "inconsistency" batai?

Aap ne khud saabit kia ke JH consistent hai yeh keh kar ke vo NS ke bare mein ab bhi vohi keh raha hai jo vo pehla keh raha tha!

IK ne siasi ghalti ki maafi mangi. IK ne koi "choha" nahi khaya, koi mufaad nahi uthaya, mulk ko nahi loota. Musharraf ki interim government mein IK na betha. Yeh us ka barapan hai us ne siasi ghalti pe maafi mangi. Us ki ghalti Musharraf pe trust karna tha.

Aap Zardari ki loot mar ko is se kaisay compare kar saktain hain?

Bezameer log jhot pehlatain hain, is liye jhoot na pehlao. Musharraf ki offer sirf aur sirf PTI ko thi governemnt lead karne ki, ye baat us se confirm ho sakti hai jo yeh sab khel khel raha tha yani Etesham Zameer.

Mulahaiza farmaya, Musharraf to IK ke PM bannay se pehla use salute mar raha tha. ;)

Musharraf ne jhoot bola ek program mein ke IK PMship demand kar raha tha, aap us jhootay par believe kartain hain? Vohi jhoota jo baad mein IK se alliance karne ke liye tarap raha tha aur IK ke talwain chatne ke liye tyaar tha lekin IK ne use tukhra diya?

Khuda ka khoof karain.

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 21:45 #
Pakistani84
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@qkm,

MQM is acting like an intruder in Punjab and is basing its politics on "divide and rule".

It's second objective is do political point scoring against ANP and PMLN.

There is also an issue of its design to create a new province in Sindh after a precedent is set.

That's why it is taking the issue of new provinces, not because of sincerity.

To believe that MQM is really aching for people of Hazara and South Punjab, is like believing that Bush really wanted to liberate Iraqis from Saddaam Hussain!

I am originally from Southern Punjab, but believe me a mafia like MQM can gain no support in the region.

The same party who actually is involved in killing other ehtnicites in the city it is strong in, cannot really so concerned about Hazarawals and South Punjabis plight - this is the concern of the people.

MQM has no hope of becoming a national party. Too many skeletons in the closet.

Posted 4 months ago on 21 Jan 2012 21:52 #