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Faulire of Nizam ADL in swat would be A CLEAR SIGN OF END OF TIME-MERE MUTABIQ

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  1. IJay
    member

    In my opnion this accord will break and after this full fledge operation will take place.If Army manages to take swat back
    then good for pakistan but if they failed then one of the prediction about end of time will come true and this will continue until they reach jerusalem..

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 May 2009 12:18 #
  2. netengr
    blocked

    Taliban did not ask Nizame-adal initially they just want to capture and want "taliban" state .this is never ending war .They will go to other area then will go to islamabad then to the world .and this will only bring blood shed nothing else .taliban cannot remain in peace .

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 May 2009 12:22 #
  3. IJay
    member

    Neteng!

    yes bloodshed is certain you have to shed blood its upo to you whether you shed it for good or evil!

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 May 2009 15:17 #
  4. zingaro
    Member

    I doubt on those who say that Pak Army failed or can't handle Taliban. As per my information Pak Army has all blue prints of the areas and when they will decide to recover Swat...they will.... so dudes ... don't worry at all :)

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 May 2009 16:04 #
  5. IJay
    member

    hitler also thought russia in his pocket..usa thout vietnam..you win war with courage and strategy an local people must support no army can win if they dont have local support most important is circumstances! if you are lucky then you are victorious if not pharahos

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 May 2009 17:08 #
  6. i think...
    they are just up to destruction and unease .
    if Govt accepts their terms..they would ask for more.
    the more Govt bends on its knees the more Taliban would get harsher ..........
    its a starting point of a bloodshed...
    everybody can see ...

    and right now ...
    it seems no way out.
    we are in a BAND GALI now.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 6:34 #
  7. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BLOW THE TALIBS IN PAK OR AFGHANISTAN TO OBLIVION USING BRUTE FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THEY WILL NOT DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DOES NO-ONE GET THIS SIMPLE FACT AND ATTEMPT TO FORMULATE A PLAN ACCORDING TO THIS BASIC TRUTH?????????????????????

    YOU HAVE TO PLAY THEIR POLITICAL NEGOTIATION GAME AND CHECK-MATE THEM OUT OF THE AREAS BY AIRING POPULAR DEMAND AGAINST THEIR STYLE OF LEADERSHIP.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:23 #
  8. Sorry Ijay:

    But how can you believe in luck and have imaan at the same time?

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:24 #
  9. IJAY

    You are totally confused with the bombardment of e-information. Come out of google and breath normally. e-information could divide your focus which is evident in your postings.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:39 #
  10. IJay
    member

    letsdoit i am not arguing with you because you have limited info
    and you call it authentic your posting about black flag in which you told these hadeeth daef and rejected them but never care to read chapters from other holy books chritian and jews what they say about black flag army.

    In your eyes islam what emerging from saudi arabia and what saudi ulemas are telling you is right ..as i said mere mutabiq it does not matter you agree with me or not!

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:47 #
  11. IJay
    member

    oreil

    in my reply to zingaro where did i mention! religion or islam he said they have blueprint i told him hitler also thougt same about russia ..american thought same about vietnam..take lesson from history

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:49 #
  12. IJay
    member

    letdoit

    either you are right or i am wrong time will declare soon
    i am not forcing anybody to follow my opinion i am sharing info it up to you to reject it or accpet it

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 12:52 #
  13. I do accept that i have limited knowledge but I am amazed that how you could see from my eyes. I have nothing to do with Saudi ulemas, i find them equally responsible for the injustice in their society. I have my own views based upon my own research and why i wrote that you are totally confused is because look at the threads you have started.
    There are 4 or 5 totally different debates you have started and i am puzzled with your ability to debate on all these different topics with the help of Google and insisting the authenticity of e-information.

    On one side you claim that this is stated by Prophet Muhammad (saw) that such army will be composed of very good muslims and on the other side you think that Talibans are the same army which are totally un-islamic and are no doubt the biggest threat to Islam. You need fresh air.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 13:01 #
  14. IJay
    member

    letsdoit

    who gave you this right who is good or bad? since when you became god and taken decision .,, now please for god sake don't call me taliban supporter!

    i am not

    Well why do you think i have only google and internet for guidence..Its Allah's will how ,when and who he wants to guide..majority of internet material is forged by ahemdis
    how can i quote research from inetrnet.. :o)

    But i love this ! 4 or 5 totally different debates you have started i am good! yea!

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 13:38 #
  15. IJay
    member

    i can start 10 debates but as on people demand i didnt open any religeous debate here..ppl busy in life they dont want to be disturbed...but yea i have joined few forums where i am discussing these people are happy with me yea! :O)

    i Have also planned to post some shocking debate to 1 imam from Uk mosque online lets see..whether he can give me what i am serching! live chat show!n :O)

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 13:50 #
  16. IJay
    member

    Jab Zulm-o-Sitam ke Koh-e-garaan
    When the mountains of cruelty and torture

    Ruii ki Tarah Urd Jain Gay
    Will fly like pieces of cotton

    Hum Mehkumoon ke Paun Talay
    Under the feet of the governed

    Yeh Dharti Dhard Dhard Dhardkay gi
    This earth will quake

    Aur Ehl-e-Hukum ke Sar Uper
    And over the head of the ruler

    Jab Bijli kard Kard Kardke gi
    When lightening will thunder

    Hum Dekhain Gay
    We shall see

    Jab Arz-e-Khuda ke kabay se
    When from God's Mecca
    Sab buth Uthwaaiy Jain gay
    All the idols will be shattered

    Hum Ehl-e-Safa Mardood-e-Haram
    Us people standing in the mosque

    Masnad pe Bithaaiy jain gay
    Will be elevated to a higher platform

    Sab Taaj Uchalay jain gay
    All the crowns will be tossed

    Sab Takht Giraaiy Jain gay
    All the thrones will be toppled

    Bas Naam rahay Ga Allah ka
    Then only God's name will remain

    Jo Ghayab Bhi hai Hazir Bhi
    Who is both absent and present

    Jo nazir bhi hai manzar bhi
    Who is both the observer and the view itself

    Uthay ga Analhaq ka Naara
    When the anthem of truth will be raised

    Jo Main bhi Hun aur Tumbhi ho
    Who I am and you are as well

    Aur Raaj karay gi khalq-e-Khuda
    And the people of God will reign

    Jo main bhi hun aur tum bhi ho
    Who I am and you are as well

    :O)

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 14:21 #
  17. .."if you are lucky then you are victorious if not pharahos".. AAP HI KE ILFAZ HAIN NA IJAY?

    this is why I asked about luck and imaan...

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 18:47 #
  18. IJay
    member

    luck! this is not religious statement

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 21:51 #
  19. misalligned
    Member

    i can start 10 debates.

    This do not show that you are intellectual, this shows how empty you are:

    my dear its ok that you are learning, but that does not mean that you have to inform the whole forum about every new line you learn. I hope most of the scholars already know about these things

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 21:54 #
  20. IJay
    member

    i have stopped doing this cant you see i have stopped selling mirrors to blinds

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 21:59 #
  21. misalligned
    Member

    why you get irritated when some one sells you a mirror

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 22:00 #
  22. Umer Mukhtar
    Member

    Nizam-e-Adal was a failure ..

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 22:24 #
  23. Umer Mukhtar
    Member

    Sherry Rehman and Fauzia Wahab one of the two post important leaders of the ruling part have accepted this.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 22:25 #
  24. d0ct0r
    Member

    Taliban bogey is Government of Pakistan's self created they could be easily reined in if government want that to happen.

    Posted 3 years ago on 04 May 2009 22:29 #

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