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fazal ur reman defeated imran in gathering crowd at baghe jinnah karachi

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drusa
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I have seen the live coverage of fazal ur rahman karachi jalsa at baghe jinnah at justin.tv .
The crown was more bigger and more emotional than gathered by pti at the same avenue .Independent sources also confirm that it was bugger than that of pti like cnn and the newstribe etc.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 19:11 #
drusa
Member

u can still watch the charged up crowd at

http://www.justin.tv/jgspak/b/306704037

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 19:14 #
zaln
Member

آج بلا آخر مدارس کو دی جانے والی آئی ایس آئی کی امداد رنگ لے آئی اور فضل الرحمان نے بڑا جلسہ کر لیا

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 19:22 #
asif86
Member

So another challenger has emerged in karachi.
The rally was big.Most people who attended belong to deobandi madrassas in sindh.They rarely vote on election day and many of them are not registered voters anyway.
Its the local organization which brings voters out on the polling day.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 19:29 #
Rohail Taqi
Member

Both Fazlo and Imran are beneficial for MQM. They will steal away Pathan votes from ANP and this, at least would give Pakhtons something useful to do with their lives besides ANP-supported-ethnic-terrorism in Karachi.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 19:30 #
bsobaid
Member

hmm, so this jalsa was definitely bigger than tsunami, BBC certified!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/01/120127_jui_khi_jalsa_zs.shtml

I remember Fazlur said in his interview with Hamid Mir about a month ago that they will hold a big jalsa in Karachi. Hamid Mir mocked him and said that GEO will give comprehensive coverage if they do a jalsa bigger than tsunami.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:19 #
jahilpakistani
Member

مولانا کے جلسے میں لوگ عمران کے جلسے سے کم تعداد میں تھے. ہاں جلسہ بڑا ضرور دکھائی دیا مگر چونکہ جلسے میں شامل اکثر لوگ مولانا کے سائز کے تھے (مولانا حضرات اکثر موٹے ہوتے ہیں) لہٰذا جس میدان کو عمران خان نے ڈھائی لاکھ لوگوں سے بھرا وہ مولانا نے صرف 70 ہزار لوگوں سے بھر دیا. یہ واقعی مولانا کے سائز کی کرامت ہیں

;-)

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:19 #
bsobaid
Member

So Fazlur criticises establishment, so does N-League and the same two parties are also mad at PTI.

This tells me establishment kee nigah-e-iltifaat is now on PTI and N-LEague and Fazlur are getting jealous.

Naee aur jawan sokann se purani aur buddhi wives tou jalti hee hein. ab kiaa karein, shouhar hai hee itna rangeen mizaaaj..

The interesting part is, MQM does not criticise establishment or IK and IK does the same. Bobby group kaa establishment kay saath koi khaas yaraana hai.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:20 #
d0ct0r
Member

Defa-e-Pakistan Jalsa at Minar-e-Pakistan was also bigger then Tsunami Singh's jalsa

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:27 #
Dusky
Member

@ drusa:

"The crown was more bigger and more emotional than gathered by pti"

Whose "crown" was that? Are you referring to Fazlu's turban? How that can be emotional?

"Independent sources also confirm that it was bugger than that of pti like cnn and the newstribe etc."

It was "bugger" then PTI??
What kind of buggery activities they were involved in?

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:27 #
insaftak
Member

@ dusky

Don't make fun of Dr from USA.

:)

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 20:39 #
d0ct0r
Member

Did Fazal say anything about MQM or did he too chickened out like Imran..?

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:01 #
zaln
Member

مولانا فضل الرحمان ، غفور حیدری پیلی پگڑیاں کیوں پہنتے ہیں ؟ مجھے تو یہ ہندو سازش لگتی ہے

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:02 #
Faarigh Jazbati
member

سب کو سلام

شاعر ظفر اقبال سے معذرت کے ساتھ

میں نے فضلو سے بڑھ کر منافق نہیں دیکھا
جو اسٹیبلشمنٹ کیخلاف بات تو کرتا ہے مگر بات اسٹیبلشمنٹ کی ہی مانتا ہے

FJ

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:04 #
d0ct0r
Member

Zalaan

Other colored 'pagris'(turbans) were already registered(copyrighted) by other sects..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:05 #
jahilpakistani
Member

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:07 #
Faarigh Jazbati
member

میرے خیال میں میرے ننھے سے پالے سے زالان بے بی کو اصل غصہ اس بات پر ہے کہہ آئی ایس آئی نے سب کو پیسے دِیے لیکن زالان بے بی کو اس سے محروم رکھا

کوئی بات نہیں زالان بے بی ، کوشش جاری رکھو کسی نہ کسی آئی ایس آئی والے کی نظر کرم تم پر بھی پڑھ ہی جائے گی

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:08 #
d0ct0r
Member

Zalaan

Now you are embarrassing Tsunami Singh's dry cleaned gang..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:08 #
d0ct0r
Member

@Allama

Its obvious Imran stole his turban..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:11 #
zaln
Member

How to wear Deobandi Yello Pagri

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:33 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

There is no comparison between the PTI jalsa and this jalsa. One is a purely political event, while the other is a Madrassa Student Convention where thousands of madrassa students gathered for different religious leaders.

These include most students who are from poor families who have absolutely know no knowledge of Pakistani politics. Many of them are Afghan migrants, etc.

PTI's crowed consists of Pakistanis of all backgrounds.

Having said that, the videos doesn't actually show it to be a bigger gathering - through ligtning was better.

@bsobaid,

The BBC's clubbing together of PTI's jalsa with the embarrassing jalsi of Musharraf makes me think something fishy with the reporter. There is no shortage of "coconuts" doing reports for BBC Urdu and they can be as weird as voicing for religious hypocrites like Maulanas to attack their main rival IK.

There is absolutely no comparision between PTI's Jalsa, today's jalsa ,and Musharraf jalsi.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:42 #
Pakistaniat1
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Question: Why didn't Fazlu didn't attempt a Jalsa in Lahore in response to PTI?

Answer: There are not as many Madrassas and organized religious groups in Lahore as in Karachi.

This pic just shows the incredible scale of that jalsa.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:47 #
bsobaid
Member

@niat,

I dont think there was any false reporting. Fazlur jalsa must be bigger than tsunami in numbers.
The participants may be madarsa students but in terms of attendance it was bigger.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:52 #
d0ct0r
Member

Answer:

Pakistan Defence Council's rally at Minar-e-Pakistan : Biggest-ever in Lahore

LAHORE: Tens of thousands gathered in one of the biggest-ever protests in the Pakistani city of Lahore Sunday to condemn Nato and United States over the killing of 24 soldiers along the Afghan border.
The protestors, mainly from Islamist groups and political parties, vowed they would march to the capital Islamabad if the government did not cancel agreements between the US designed to fight terrorism.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/18/tens-of-thousands-against-us-in-lahore.html

http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/is-this-true-2#post-289212

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 21:52 #
Pakistaniat1
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Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:01 #
Pakistaniat1
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@bsobaid,

I do not believe in BBC reporting since they were comparing Musharraf embarrassing jalsi with the PTI one.

It is absolutely insane for anyone who has watched the embarrassing jalsi of Musharraf.

I want some pictures to be compared.

And in and of itself, gather Madrassa students is no political activity - it's a religious one.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:05 #
Pakistaniat1
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@DOC,

Absolutely wrong. Give me any pictorial evidence which shows what you are suggesting. No reporter reported anything of the like.

Lahroe Jalsa was the biggest in decades (PTI's one, that is).

And Madrassas doesn't thrive as they do in Karachi (through they of course do) for Fazlu to gather a respectable crowed at Minar-e-Pakistan.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:07 #
bsobaid
Member

where did he compare musharraf and PTI jalsa?
The report only mentions them in one sentence and says fazlur jalsa was bigger than both.

There is no harm in admitting fazlur's was bigger

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:10 #
d0ct0r
Member

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:17 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

To mention Musharraf jalsa with these two is an insult to the political intelligence of the people who witnessed the jalsas.

You have to prove that it was a bigger. Pictorial evidence will do. Compare it with the pic I posted of Karachi Jalsa (at afternoon, when more people were arriving) just below the Lahore Jalsa pic.

Care to do that?

Now I tell you what makes it look like a "bigger" jalsa. It is BETTER LIGHTNING.

For example, you saw the above pic of Lahore jalsa - superb, very good lightning. Now this is the Karachi Jalsa pic from the same angle:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=300578346651259&set=a.300577119984715.69076.143462899029472&type=3&theater

Bad lightning, but the crowed was massive.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:19 #
universal007
Member

definetly bigger than pti musical show.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:20 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

@DOC,

Compare the crowed from start to 0:08 in your own video with the above pic of the Karachi Jalsa.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:23 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

Besides, it is complete nonsense to compare a Madrassa Convention with gathering from a specific background (madarassas students and teachers) with the genuinely public gathering from all walks of life in PTI jalsas.

Any political person will recognize this point.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:24 #
bsobaid
Member

@niat,

All I can say is PTI lovers are in denial.

Its not a bid deal though, not sure why Immu lovers are so pissed of. Fazlur attendance does not translate into votes as majority of them have their votes registered outside of Karachi and probably many of them are poor Afghan orphans and displaced people.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:26 #
drusa
Member

we shuold give credit to fazal ur rehman that he managed bigger jalsa than pti. also it was political as there were following slogans
who will save pak fazul rehman
who will be pm fazul reham

etc.

Between pti and fazal ur rehman supporters should keep in mind that gathering people does not make a person leader or saviour or pm.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:27 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

Great View of PTI Jalsa:

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:37 #
d0ct0r
Member

Pakistaniat1

Ground is clearly full,according to those present,crowd was even spilling out on numaish chowrangi, remember it was all men event unlike PTI's mixed gathering. Even JI wasn't present. Munawar Hasan has issues with Fazal on revival of MMA otherwise if thats revived then even these numbers too could be easily surpassed..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:37 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

@bsobaid,

Exactly, it is non-political crowed, and that is precisely the dishonesty we have to expose of these Mazhabi theekedars.

Yet it wasn't bigger, see my linked video in the post above this one.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:40 #
Respect
Member

It was a decent show by Fazul saab, I did not think he had in him. Whether it was bigger than IK jalsa in Karachi, I do not know, need to look into it.

@doctor

It seems u have come a supporter of Maulana saab, shame Noon league won't ever be able to do what IK and Maulana saab did. Nawaz Sharif does that kind of jalsa in Karachi, that would be someting to see. However he is only good at sitting in Raiwind and trashing MQM.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:42 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

@DOC,

Ground was absolutely full, no doubt. But tell me, was it not in PTI's jalsa?

All the media reported during PTI's jalsa that the ground is full and people are stuck outside becuase there is no place inside.

Just see the vidoe I linked.

I am not saying PTI jalsa was bigger in anyway, but hhat JUI's jalsa wasn't bigger. They both packed the ground to the fullest.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:43 #
expakistani
Member

Well its funny.... JUI cant win single seat and PTI would be lucky to win one NA or PA seats ( at least they have a slight chance )....

So why This Kolaveri Di???

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:44 #
Pakistaniat1
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@DOC,

"All-men"? LOL, what is the significance of it?

It was all madrassas crowed.

@Respect,

This is a combined jalsa of JUI and local religious groups and Madrassas pundits. There were religious leaders on stage who run chains of Deobandi Madarris.

It was simply a religious convention, and not a political activity.

Maulana certainly has "this" in him, he is the biggest religious crook of all.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:47 #
d0ct0r
Member

expakistani

Ironically both PTI's and JUI's jalsas were ALOT bigger then MQM's trademark jalsa on M A Jinnah rd.. Bhathakhor gang besieges polling stations otherwise it too won't be able to win a single seat..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:49 #
d0ct0r
Member

Pakistaniat1

I mean their women were not accompanying them unlike the PTI jalsa,otherwise another 27 acre ground would have been required to accommodate them too..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:51 #
d0ct0r
Member

PTI's jalsa too wasn't a "political activity" . It was a free for all music concert .. fun gala..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:53 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

@DOC,

You consider women cattle? Now that's bad. ;)

The women were participating in PTI's jalsa in their individual capacities.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:54 #
Pakistaniat1
Blocked

But there was no element of exploitation.

Bringing Madrassa children is exploitation.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 22:55 #
d0ct0r
Member

Indeed they're not cattle so they were not forced to listen to Fazal's boring sermon. They willingly opted out.. unlike PTI's jalsa where their spouses brought them too along with them to listen to the concert..

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 23:05 #
drusa
Member

also fazal ur rehman did this julsa in karachi without being afraid of mqm ,without changing his stance on mqm and without fixing with mqm like pti.

Also unlike pti ,he did not send his delegation to nine zero requesting cooperation from mqm for karachi jalsa.

it shows he has balls which imran dont have.

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 23:11 #
Pakistaniat1
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Link the full video of that program, if you dare? ;)

I don't know what is your point. All the people came on their own, they were not students brought form madrassas or colleges and/or patwars (in PMLN case).

Posted 3 months ago on 27 Jan 2012 23:14 #

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