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ARCANE
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First cargo ship anchors off Gwadar...PAF gets six JF-17 Thunder aircraft

MashaAllaah!!! May Allaah swt bless our GR8 nation and all its beautiful ppl. Alhamdulillaah more stars in our country\'s gr8 achievements!!!!

BROS & SIS>.....my intention is only to highlight the gr8 achievements of our gr8 nation!!! I am not giving credit to the military or the politicians.

PLS DONT use this as an opportunity to criticize the military or politicians. SIMPLY ENJOY OUR COUNTRY\'s GR8 accomplishments!!! :-)

May Allaah swt raise our nation to the highest of statuses in evry aspect!!! May Allaah swt unite our ppl and make us strong. And may Allaah swt grant us good and caring leaders, and a good caring awam!! Ameen

United we stand, divided we fall :-)

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 20:58 #
econfused
Member

Great news, now we don\'t have to use F-16 in Wazirastan?

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:06 #
Suleman1
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yes indeed its a great achievement!

it is way better then our current old F-16 fleet! their are at lest 10 customers waiting in line for JF-17. Azerbaijan has already placed an order of 26 from pakistan! each costing about 22 $ million! While pathetic indian LCA light combat aircraft has taken over 30 years and still not in the service!

godddddd bless the PAK LAND!! pakistan!!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:06 #
ARCANE
Member

The serial production of JF-17 Thunder has already started and the production capacity would be gradually taken to 25 aircraft per year by 2011.

About 60 per cent of the aircraft’s frame and 80 per cent of its avionics would be manufactured in Pakistan by 2010.

The first 50 aircraft would have avionics of Chinese origin while the next batch would be fitted with indigenously-developed avionics and European radars.

Pakistan had begun negotiations with British and Italian defence firms over potential avionics and other systems for JF-17.

PAF will induct 150 aircraft into its inventory in the first phase, under an agreement with the Chinese company, and the total induction could go up to 250.

The JF-17 will replace Pakistan’s MiG-21-derived Chengdu F-7, Nanchang A-5 and Mirage III/V currently in service.

Azerbaijan and Zimbabwe have each placed orders as well. Nine other countries which have expressed interest in purchasing the JF-17 are Bangladesh, Myanmar, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Malaysia, Morocco, Nigeria, Sri Lanka and Algeria.

MashaAllah a GR8 military and economical achievement!!!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:06 #
Suleman1
Blocked

@ enconfused
no actually the US has supplied us with a squadron of B-52 to do that job! goshhhh>>

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:07 #
econfused
Member

Oh before we get there :) Thank you Nawaz Sharif for signing the agreement with China.

Now the purpose of this comment is just to pi$$ off few people :)

Its going to work!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:11 #
Suleman1
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thanks to Gen. musharraf for restarting this project and not actually going for a pathetic MIG-33 literally choesn by Bakwaz sharif back in 1994. so in 2001 PAF decided to scrap the project of Mig-33 to replace its aging fleet of old F-7s and Mirages but rather chose to go for a more advanced plane that could meet the task of PAF.
now with grace of almighty Allah PAF has achieved a great millstone in its history of pakistan 4 JF-17 thunder will fly past over islamabad saluting their President for giving another life to PAF!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:42 #
econfused
Member

Back the facts with references :) You are still welcome to see that JF-17 agreement is signed by Nawaz Sharif. For the record, I am not a voter of NS either, just a believer of democracy.

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 21:54 #
ARCANE
Member

Actually the fact is that both the civilian govts of BB and NS had to agree and sign a contract that they will not interfere in Pak millitary affairs. In exchange they were kept informed by the military and given updates.

Second, one of the drawbacks with our politicians is that most of them are not educated in military affairs, thats why I say we need better and more appropriate political leaders. Since they are not educated, they are truly incapable of understanding the military needs and hence can never make credible and reliable decisions pertaining to our military.

Third, since our politicians are basically inept at military affairs, the military makes all our military related decisions regardless of whether its procurement or development of military equipment.

The NS signing was simply an honorary gesture since he was the PM at the time. It doesnt hold any merit. He just signed a paper to make it official bro, the adminstration had nothing to do with the decision or the study that led to that decision.

And again I am NOT giving credit to any one establishment or party. But these r the facts and dont ask me to show u where, if u disagree then research and let me know what u find out!!!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 22:23 #
econfused
Member

@arcane

So Army knows what its needs are, do they learn policy making in Kakul? and how to run the countries. This is exactly what Kh. Asif said in his speech, that military assume that it knows better.

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell you, that civilian government as to control this menace. You are asking me to research, have you done your research? How many wars this army has won? I am not talking about battles.

This useless white elephant has not won a SINGLE WAR. All military regimes can rewrite history, but it is going to be difficult in 21st century.

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 22:33 #
Suleman1
Blocked

@ARCANE

thanks for the facts, but i have come to conclusion that enconfused is another pathetic indian logged into pakistan forum to spread nothing but fire between our beloved pakistanis!

@ enconfused

since you are a democratic lover.. tell me is their any democracy in your family?

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 23:09 #
econfused
Member

@suleman1

\"patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel\"

As I said the country is not about your or my Dad. I vote according to my logic and reasoning, not what my Father has told me. On second thought, he helped me to get enough education so I can decide on my own.

If you are against democracy, then whats the point of even argument? You can wait for next Military coup, whats the rush.

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 23:19 #
javedsheikh
Members

First cargo ship anchors off Gwadar/PAF gets six JF-17 Thunder aircraft
Very good.
Now it will be very easy to solve the Kashmir issue and generate enough Electricity and Gas.
There will be no traffic problem in the near future.
Congratulations. Mubarak Mubarak.

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 23:33 #
Suleman1
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@ confused

i have to say i am the only one in my family who supports musharraf as the rest of my family dont want the old face to come again and rule this country!

@ Javedsheikh

Ignorant fool! during 2002 PAK and IND military stand off, PAF was not equiped with missile that could reach indian planes while the indian planes could lock on us before we even detect them in our radars! so you miserable deepshittt Pak military is trying to make sure that when such incident happens again we are equipped enough to keep the enemy at the bay if \"god for bids\" war brakes out!
as for those lil kunts sayin that these plans are gonna be used on our own people?? then there are alot other ways to do that rather then use jets!

Posted 4 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 23:48 #
javedsheikh
Members

@ Suleman1
O the only wise man on the earth, thou shall celebrate the event what has made Pakistan a great power rather a super power in the region.
Now Atta will be cheap and easily available to the poor.
Very good.
Share Ladoos with your family and friends.
nawan aayan ayn sonyia?

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 0:35 #
ARCANE
Member

@JS......I certainly feel ur pain bro, I dont blame u for having such a pessimistic take on life!!! If I had teams like the Redskins and the Wizards representing my city perhaps I too would have no reason to be optimistic in life!!! I truly dont see any light at the end of the tunnel for you folks up in DC!!! RIP bro.....Tsk tsk!!!

Kobe and the Lakers baby!!! ;-)

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:10 #
ARCANE
Member

Hey JS atleast u gettin ur atta and ladoos in DC bro, I hear they have some gr8 desi food up there!!! ;-)

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:11 #
econfused
Member

If I have to guess Suleman1 (just by his spellings), he is at Kakul :) or just became a 2nd lt. While @arcane my friend is just another MQM dude.

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:17 #
ARCANE
Member

Bro any wise educated individual wil tell you that punjabi, pashtoon, ppp, pmln, sindhi, mqm and all such affiliations should and does have limits - simple human decency demands it. Its only ignorant people, Jahils who cant see those limits. Dont be an extremist, quit your hate!!!!

How in the world u claim to be for Democracy and hate everyone who is different than u?!?!?! Maybe I missed this in the Quaid\'s principles!!!

Wake up call, like I said earlier u are no follower of Mr. Quaid, stop pretendin! U only foolin urself!

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:26 #
econfused
Member

Did I say that your affiliation is any of my concern? You have every right to be member of any political party or Mafia. I do not hate you, because my hate (btw I never such strong word for anybody) is generally reserved for people whom I have known personally or about the people about whom I have certain knowledge.

I have friendship at personal level with MQM supporters. Now the good thing is I am not in karachi, so sometimes they listen my arguments, but don\'t threaten to kill me. I also do not pay protection money either.

I just have been a supporter of democracy, I don\'t put conditions of illiteracy or any other on democracy. I don\'t consider anybody super smart if they have great university education, but still support military rule. Because \"Taleem nain kuch naheen wigarna\"

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:39 #
ARCANE
Member

econfused wrote: @arcane my friend is just another MQM dude

Obviously u have never lived in a democracy. That statement has discrimination written all over it. Creating stereotypes, labeling individuals because of their political or religious beliefs is against the basic principles of Democracy.

I know u already knew that, but I thought I just remind u!!! ;-)

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 3:50 #
econfused
Member

Alright I say @JS is just another Jyala, or Hillary is a democrat? is that discrimination. Where do you see stereotype. You keep on supporting Army rule, so what can tell you?

Also \"Obviously u have never lived in a democracy.\" :) your may be right, because elite class like yours may never give us a chance to live in democracy. May be we can only enjoy democracy by leaving country.

You can just simply say that my guess was incorrect, and that is alright too :)

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 4:00 #
ARCANE
Member

@ econfused....u wrote = \"your may be right, because elite class like yours may never give us a chance to live in democracy. May be we can only enjoy democracy by leaving country.\"

Alhamdulillah at least u agree that the feudal lords/politicians, since they are the elites, are corrupt and oppress the weak!!!

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 5:19 #
econfused
Member

@arcane

I said people like you who support military rule and i consider thats feudal. Generals are elite, and politicians who support those in generals in this day or age.

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 5:25 #
ARCANE
Member

lol....bro in order to be a feudal you have to own land, farmers and so forth!!! Its not something u can just attribute to someone!!! :-)

I mean u cant deny that there are no feudal lords in Pakistan outside the military!!! Thats just ignorant or u r living in denial!!! lol....u r funny!!!

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 5:56 #
econfused
Member

Yesterday got a visit from a friend in Karachi. He was telling me about \"chanda\" his father has to pay to live over there. I see no difference between your DON and a Feudal Jurnail.

Posted 4 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 11:43 #
Anonymous

@econfused,

I m a punjabi from lhr , lived in khi from 97 to 2005 and had never paid chanda . Have u ever been to khi yourself ?

Plz don\'t propogate what u listen . thx.

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 10:14 #
Anonymous

Can someone plz telll me that how Gawadar port will be accessed ? whats route ?

Its through coastal highway at the moment. The cargo will first come to khi and then go upcountry so why not use khi or port qasim port (both of which are quite under utilized ).

And for mush lovers , Gawadar port was a project conceived , intiated a lot before the birth of mushraf. The plan in 90\'s was to link Gawadar port thourgh Shadadkot-gawadar motor way .

Mush has pushed with gawadar to allot some more sea facing plots to forces.

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 10:26 #
econfused
Member

@askhan75,

If you have never paid \"Chanda\", then it does not mean it did not happen. My cousin lived in Hyderabad all his life and he was paying Chanda throughout his life. The personal friend of Karachi who told me about his father, he also told me about his father was threatened to give Chanda.

So If I something did not happen to me, does not mean does not happen. Mafia\'s Chanda practice is a WELL KNOWN fact. If it does not happen to, there got to be a SPECIAL reason.

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 12:00 #
Adonis
Member

Actually mush has a plot himself at gwadar.

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 12:08 #
Suleman1
Blocked

@ confused

\"My cousin lived in Hyderabad all his life and he was paying Chanda throughout his life.\"

yaaay chanda chanda kia haa yaaay chanda chanda?? lolz
lol \"econfused the laughing stock of this forum!

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 12:20 #
econfused
Member

Beta So Jao, ISSB clear naheen ho gee aisay

Posted 4 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 12:24 #
Anonymous

@econfused,
Its not the right forum but --

My inlaws are from hyderabad . So , i have also got some information.

Why u consider people of karachi idiots that they vote for someone who haress them. Karachi is the most literate city of Pakistan and has never scummbed to a military dictator . U start from Ayub and go on.

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 9:22 #
Suleman1
Blocked

enconfused.. tera time hoo gayaay haaa bakwaz sharif ki laap may batnay kaa.. teek teraah say khailna! okk hahahahaha

and ohh btw.... i passed ma ISSB test!! soo go and screw on nawaz balls... lolzzzzz

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 11:19 #
econfused
Member

One person went to meat meet shop

Customer: Bhaijan ik bakray di siri daina
Qasai: Sir fauji hoay Ya civilian
Customer: Matlab
Qasai: Fauji - Baghair Maghaz Toon, Civilian - Maghaz day Naal

Good Luck Suleman1 :), First six months will be fun

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 11:56 #
Suleman1
Blocked

haha you are funny ex-pakistani! lol

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 12:19 #
Suleman1
Blocked

you and your pathetic lousy jokes... use these jokes to get some indian attention in canada or lundon where eva you are... you need attention....

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 12:24 #
econfused
Member

That was not joke, it did happen. I don\'t even find it funny.

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 12:39 #
Suleman1
Blocked

@ ex-pakistani
where were you?? in india?

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 12:49 #
econfused
Member

CSD Meat shop in Lahore

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 13:11 #
Suleman1
Blocked

you did not find a civil meat shop in lahore??
you are really exposing your dumbness and indianness.. lol

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 13:36 #
econfused
Member

Since it is welfare state for Army, so I have to check that it is on controlled prices. NGOs pay big bucks to do the research :)

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 14:43 #
Suleman1
Blocked

@ ex-pakistani.

lol at you....

Posted 4 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 15:09 #