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Five killed, 15 wounded in US gym shooting!!!!

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  1. Revivalist
    member

    The gunman killed four women before shooting himself at a Pennsylvania gym.
    At least five people have been killed and 15 others wounded when a gunman opened fire on women at a gym in Pennsylvania, media reports say.

    The women were attending a Latin dance class at the LA Fitness Gym in Bridgeville, a town near Pittsburgh, local WTAE television reported. The gunman killed himself after shooting four women dead.

    One hospital representative told the TV that five women were being treated for multiple gunshots and were in critical condition.

    A witness identified as Nicole said in an interview with WTAE that the killer walked into an all-female dance class carrying a bag, turned off the lights, and opened fire from at least one firearm.

    "He got off a lot of shots," the witness said. "People everywhere were screaming. It was horrible."

    Nicole said that about 30 women were in the dance room at the time, while WTAE's reporter said that about 100 people might have been present in the gym in total.

    Ambulances and police cars flooded into the area, which is part of a shopping center.

    HSH/AKM

    Blatant hypocrisy, if the killer would have been a Muslim, now the headlines would have been " An Islamic terrorist" or " A Muslim terrorist" killed innocent American. These Islamic terrorists are against our way of life and against freedom and democracy bla bla!!!! But now the murderer is an American so he called as 'GUNAMAN’,

    Regards

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 6:54 #
  2. be_hind
    Blocked

    @question to myself!

    what is difference between a sociopath criminal & religiously motivated terrorist?

    Any non-hypocritical answers?

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 7:01 #
  3. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Religiouslly motivated always go for the divine cause like in IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN and also their Allies.......This is well organised and planned war as learning from previous experiences...............
    btw be_hind i know about you now......

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 7:06 #
  4. Revivalist
    member

    The difference is that the person non-Muslim if does any crime hides behind terms like sociopath, psycho etc, besides, this could be a crime which is not a result of any tyranny inflicted upon that person i.e. Afghanistan, Iraq, philistine etc, while when west and its mouth peaces talks about any Muslim doing any crime they abruptly associate it with Islam, which I think is duplicity on their part...
    However the point remains there, that shows western hypocrisy, when using the world criminal and 'Islamic terrorist'...

    Regards

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 7:39 #
  5. be_hind
    Blocked

    all due respects..this poses few obvious questions? is this kind of terrorism(which by no means is a stretch of literal meaning of word) in Pennsylvania targeted at a particular group of people? say something like one man attack on holocaust museum sometime back but does this one show an attack on a race/religion/sect?

    does this man have an army of god waiting to blow themselves up in a school bus to get some heavenly reward?

    yours and mine definitions might differ but i would agree that killing any civilian for/not for political/religious gains should be considered terrorism..this is reflected by the literal meanin

    g of word..i would differ though on naming it with ideology..this attack does not in anyway have an adjective attached it is a terrorist act..however what you call tyranny inflicted response is islamic(adj.) terrorism..feel free to disagree we can exchange some views..

    time for me to sleep..enjoy

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:03 #
  6. be_hind
    Blocked

    @skyfacts are you one of those who believe there is a divine cause served by blowing yourself up or shooting at civilians?

    peace and sleep

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:07 #
  7. @Revivalist ,
    @These Islamic terrorists are against our way of life and against freedom and democracy bla bla!!!! But now the murderer is an American so he called as 'GUNAMAN’,

    very good ...agreed .
    i have this issue with western media and western rulers for so long...that they always have double standards ...with dealing with islamic and non islamic world.

    u can only hear the accent from which they pronounce Iyezlaam (islam)iyezzlamist (islamist)iyezzlye mabeed (islamabad) and Phekhestain ....(Pakistan)
    u can gauge the hatred and complexes in the pronunciations only.

    islamic militant ,islamic bomb,islamist terrorist
    all all the terms ,coined by western media to humiliate us and unfortunately ,we use it in our daily communication .

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:22 #
  8. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    You are working for an ad-agency and according to Muftian -e- Islam this profession is 'un-islamic' !
    On the other hand your comments and acts of 'moderation(read partiality)' show that you are quite religious !

    Kiya yeh khoola tizaad nahi :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:01 #
  9. @redscorpion,
    i work for an ad agency or i am religious minded or not.
    that has got nothing to do with any one .

    i am practicing my duty with honesty ,as much as possible .
    and i just cant take members getting personal with each other.
    or breaching the code of the site .

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:06 #
  10. msohail83
    Member

    Last month a bomb exploded in Spain which damanged the facade of this multi-story hotel.

    Few days later there was a car bomb in the same country.

    It made the news that day and then simply vanished. Did you hear about 'christian' militants??? HELL NO!

    Imagine if it was done by a Muslim???

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:06 #
  11. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    "i am practicing my duty with honesty ,as much as possible .
    and i just cant take members getting personal with each other.
    or breaching the code of the site . "

    Below is example of your honesty !

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/christian-muslim-clashes-or-%d8%b9%db%8c%d8%b3%d8%a7%d8%a6%db%8c-%da%a9%d8%b4-%d9%81%d8%b3%d8%a7%d8%af%d8%a7%d8%aa

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/can-some-one-use-his-7th-sense-and-delete-all-blasphemy-garbage-threads-forum#post-63014

    Could you please care to show if there was any breach of code of the site ??

    BTW where is that code of conduct ??

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:39 #
  12. msohail83
    Member

    Scorpion,

    You're going bonkers. Give her a break!

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:41 #
  13. talalkhan
    Member

    The western media never use the word Islaimic terrorists and bla bla bla. They initially say a prson did it. Later they disclose his name. We Pakistanis are killing the minorities and then claiming innocence and blaming western media? Very strange

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:47 #
  14. skyfacts
    Blocked

    Red-Scorpion/JS,
    Now you are down with such attacks called .... at the forum like this....
    he athority of law inforcement persons(Moderators) are final,and you claiming such a high fy civilisation cannot even abide by the rules over here...
    DONT USE SUCH LANGUAGE AND TRICKS....

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:48 #
  15. @redscorpio,
    code is on main page of pkpolitics .
    thread you are talking about was deleted not on a personal reason ,as anybody can see from your link,there is lot of anti islam and anti Pakistan sentences there .
    and if i would have personal grudges .......................
    would have deleted many posts and threads which are full of personal attacks towards me...
    like this one ,we are posting ....
    but i never did that.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:48 #
  16. Justapakistani
    Member

    The chamchas of Dr Shabbir (http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/dr-shabir-ahmeds-chamchas-exposed#post-61378) , trying hard to spread their virus & flith here........go away give a break to us...noone gonna give a damn on u venon.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:48 #
  17. msohail83
    Member

    talal khan

    How rediculous is that statement?? And you claim you live in America for 6 months.

    I thought athiests try to be truthful. You're lying thru ur teeth! What's up buddy?

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:49 #
  18. @tala khan,
    islamic militant is the term i have heard myself on CNN and BBC for the first time...and then everybody started using it .

    western media is not that innocent neither neutral,as u think off it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:51 #
  19. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    What is your criterion to claim something as 'anti-Pakistan' and 'anti-Islam' ?
    Show me some comments especially by me which falls under aforementioned categories !!
    Moreover, you are commenting here and there with a very partial view point which is supportive of Mullha/Khilafa group at Pk Politics.
    Being a 'moderator' do you really think you are justifying your role ???

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:52 #
  20. msohail83
    Member

    scorpion,

    She's doing what she can. It's not the first time. You're just new here. If she comes across too many abusive comments, she generally deletes the posts. It doesn't have to be comments by you.

    Take a chill pill

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:55 #
  21. @Red Scorpio,
    i was a member and then became a moderator .
    and Admin gave me the permission to continue participating at the forum as a member too ,along with my duty as a moderator .

    so i have a right to hold certain view points ....
    though ,i am not with those ,you are talking bout.

    the problem is that ...
    everybody feels annoyed ,when i delete any post or a thread of him/her ........
    nobody has a courage to say
    yes ...u did it right and i will try to not to write anything against the rules of the site ,next time.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:57 #
  22. @msohail,
    thanks for your support .

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:58 #
  23. skyfacts
    Blocked

    I would suggest all the moderators to ignore the comments always from the owner of a thread........

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:59 #
  24. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    I'm really not satisfied with your feedback and I insist you precisely answer my following questions

    What is your criterion to claim something as 'anti-Pakistan' and 'anti-Islam' ?
    Show me some comments especially by me which falls under aforementioned categories !!
    Moreover, you are commenting here and there with a very partial view point which is supportive of Mullha/Khilafa group at Pk Politics.
    Being a 'moderator' do you really think you are justifying your role ???

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 9:59 #
  25. msohail83
    Member

    scorpion,

    Khuda naa naa lay yarrr. Ooops u dont believe in khuda.

    welll bas kar shahzaday aurton ki tarah rona dal rakha hai

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:02 #
  26. @RedScopio ,
    i think ,my reply was complete and self explanatory.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:05 #
  27. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @dmin

    I invite your attention towards very partial "moderation" by Ms. Beena !

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:07 #
  28. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    You did your masters from KU's MC deptt., are you a fan of Mr. Mehmood Ghaznavi ??

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:16 #
  29. @Redscorpio,
    thanks for inviting Admin to pay attention to this thread .
    i am sick n tired of this particular thread .
    let the Admin decide .....

    as long as Mehmood Ghaznavi is concerned .
    i have never been a fan of hims.
    he was a professor with zero knowledge and cheap popularity tactics in girl students .
    nowadays ,i have heard ,this chap is heading our department .

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:21 #
  30. msohail83
    Member

    Beena,

    Don't get frustrated. Take it easy!

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:22 #
  31. @msohail ,
    dont u worry ....i am not frustrated at all.

    i have got tough nerve to handle the pressure .
    as my office job made me so.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:25 #
  32. Justapakistani
    Member

    Oh yeah i also heard about the cheap tactics of Mehmood Ghaznavi when i used to be in KU's Computer Science dept.
    As i know MCD becomes the Institute and shifted to new building near Statistics Dept.,

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:26 #
  33. Revivalist
    member

    Red-scorpion,

    If holding on to the truth is partiality then let sis Beena be partial. We need to hold on to the truth what ever you may call it. Terms like Islamo- fascists, Islamic terrorist, Islamic militants, Evil ideology etc are all invented by west and propagated through its media channels, if you don’t know it’s your problem that you are not following these propaganda news channels and not ours!!!

    When a fake video of lashing a girl in swat was release it was shown on the western media channels countless times but when sister Marwa Shibrini (shaheed) was brutally killed in the court room, how much coverage the western media give to this tragic and shameful incident???? Do you honestly think that if the same incident would have happened and the murderer would have been a Muslim, would the reaction of the western media be the same???? Isn’t it a blatant duplicity?

    Regards

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:27 #
  34. msohail83
    Member

    Good luck Beena

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:28 #
  35. @Revivalist and msohail,
    thanks for your support.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:30 #
  36. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beenai

    What Mehmood Ghaznavi has become head of MC !

    Thanks, you also discribed well enough Mr. Ghaznavi.
    Do you know he used to be Nazim of Islami Jamiat Tabla, during his student life ??

    BTW I'm sorry I had to seek attention of @dmin, nothing personal !
    I would still appreciate if you can show any filthy/dirty comments from me against anyone !

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:31 #
  37. msohail83
    Member

    scorpion,

    Here it is

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/videos-of-khilafah-conference-america-chicago-2009#post-63082

    Beenai,

    delete his comment pls.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:32 #
  38. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @msohail83

    Hmmmm no doubt this the most filthy comment which has ever been posted on Pk Politics !

    Yea, Beena pls go ahead and delete it, I won't be having any problem for that :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:35 #
  39. @Redscorpio ,
    when Zardari can be the head of state ...
    why not Mehmood Ghaznavi a cheap person can be the head of Mass Comm at KU ?
    unfortunately ,in KU seniority works.
    and according to the year counting he s senior on registers .
    as not senior at his mental level.
    so what ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:35 #
  40. NNL
    member

    seriouly Beenai i have a question. Why the heck are you going at lengths to tolerate these people. Like on any Indian forum if a pakistan or Muslim was doing such things like arguing with the Moderator and such they would have been banned in milliseconds. Why are you being courteous to them. Why take bother with them.

    Just wipe them off and be done with it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:36 #
  41. msohail83
    Member

    scorpion,

    You're an athiest or whatever your belief is, it is totally fine with me but u don't come here and redicule Khalifas by equating them with Hijras. What's wrong with you dude?

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:38 #
  42. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    I am also a former student of KU, I was there during 1990s.
    You might have known Askari and Kaleem. One Jiyaala and other Jamaati. Both used to be my friend there.

    @NNL

    Shah Say Ziyaada
    Shah Kay Wafadaar :))

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:39 #
  43. Justapakistani
    Member

    This proof their low life mentality.....all have difference of view point with HT but that doesn't mean to ridicule anyone with the filth.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:43 #
  44. @Redscorpio,
    i know Askari ,who was keep failing in every semester as he just wanna be with KU forever .
    i dono...is the same Askari are u talking about?
    anyway....

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:45 #
  45. Justapakistani
    Member

    When in 1990s? well from 1995 - 2002 , i don't see Jiyaala (PSF) in KU

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:45 #
  46. @Dear NNL,
    i am facing stones from left ,right ,center .
    u can see ...
    so i have to decide first ...when it comes to cleaning .....where to start from?

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:46 #
  47. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @msohail83

    "You're an athiest or whatever your belief is, it is totally fine with me but u don't come here and redicule Khalifas by equating them with Hijras. What's wrong with you dude? "

    Buddy, I really don't want to hurt anyone's religious feelings !
    I feel sorry if my comments have hurt your religious feelings !

    BTW do you really think I was making fun of term 'Khalifa' ?
    Dude there are different meanings of this term and what I meant was not Khulfa-e-Rashdeen !

    Hope this will clarify my position !

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:48 #
  48. NNL
    member

    well you can quarantine them all and then decide on a case by case basis. .

    Irritants from anywhere shouldnt be tolerated if they arent so much of positive people and Jamatis as always havent been a positive influence in any educational institution

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:50 #
  49. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Beena

    I know Askari was not a good student, but even when he was in KU he used to write 'Jama'a kee Diary' in Jang's mid-week magazine !
    BTW he's still working for Jang !

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:51 #
  50. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @justapakistani

    it was in 1995 that PSF re-opened its KU unit and I personally knew many Jiyalaas especially in Political Science deptt.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 10:53 #

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