Just received this message in my email. Spreading for information.
Dear All,
Those who can not afford school fees and school books expenses are
informed to contact on below numbers for help.
0333 2365362, 0333 2286189 & 0346 3525202.
Education for everyone.
Please circulate this e-mail to everyone you feel "should be" and
search yourself to participate in such a noble cause.
zindagi trust,
Shahzad Roy.
@letsdoit,
its a good approach of our showbiz stars of using their popularity to do some thing better for the country .
Nazia Hassan first started it in late 1980s.
with her welfare trust vans to interior sindh ,Battle against Narcotics and Banh Beli of Javed Jabbar.
now imran khan ,shahzad Roy,Abrar ul Haq and many others are doing so ...
i think ...its a good approach.
and we all should apprecaite it .
It is an excellent initiative if it is a valid one.
There were some reports of gross mishandling of donations in Ibrar-ul-haq's program. Shahzad Roy's program have received good reviews until now.
The best part, he is concentrating on Sindh.
Please just circulate this email, perhaps it could find one who really needs it.
Talking of free euducation, and typically about the country with literacy conditions like ours, there definately needs to be atleast Free Primary Education Call.
Not sure, but I am quite sure that the public schools/govt schools at primary level have very nominal fees, but still no doubt its difficult for a poor person to pay for it.
Will freeing atleast primary level education, spread education in the country. I am sure NOT.
Child going to school, will still need his share of food after reaching home. Parent will still think, if he/she would have worked somewhere, would have made him bring some money to produce his own share of food but also contribute towards the siblings which can't work.
Though ideal/utopian, but real solution seems to be that govt shall bribe parents i.e. send your childern to school and we will pay you 1000rs / month. And will give free books. So you will have to spend nothing, and will get money in return for free.
I know this is very vague statement, but makes some sence to me.
People !!!! Any thoughts
People !!!!
Nah,Its not cost effective suggestion.
Instead, make a law that children under certain age (lets say under 13) should not be hired for any work but this will work in a welfare state... U have to change the whole system.. From the Baitul-Maal to School,Police,law... There are few thoughts, let me organise them and then will get back.
But I heard there is or was some scheme in Punjab, in which typically girls used to get stipent when they used to attend school. And that too in rural areas.....
It even happens in UK too where the kids get money from the state for attending certain number of hours (only available to Problematic kids rather) Point is that economically we are not that strong that we can offer money to kids but I have a suggestion that Private Schools with good income (you can divide them in groups and levels) should be forced to educate a school in rural areas. For Example: Grammar School should provide free books,uniform on a regular basis to 2 schools in rural sindh. Same goes to Private firms and business Tycoons.. Hashwani can fund a whole district schools and every Political party should be responsible for at least 1 city!
tamza2k
Members
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There was a scheme in Pujnab to pay each student ( Govt School) 200 per month alonwith books ( once in a year) & to motivate them to come to schools. Not sure if the same scheme is running in Punjab right now or not but have heard some students from a govt school in Peshawar that Provincial Govt has made a policy to pay each student 500 rupees per month for their study based needs( remember books & Uniform were already provided freely to students till 10th grade). I personally have heard few of my neighbours getting 500 from the last two months, i asked if the money is paying to each student they replied yes & then i asked who is paying your teachers or some one from outside the reply was a man from outside our school administration. I agree if such scheme is good to provide free books/uniforms as i personally noticed many children not going to schools becuase of the admission fee, books & uniform expenses but when those cost were reduced or when parents of poor children were not gonna paying such expenses out of their pockets they started admitted their kids in schools. Now what i personally think is provision of study material & uniform to each student should be good but providing money in hand of every student is not a good approach. I have seen so many families whose children really dont deserves to be paid for their studies rather there should be a criteria on the basis of which deserves & deserves not should be eliminated.
Yes exactly something like this I meant to say.
This is very encouraging if our govt's acctually did something like this e.g. Paying for books or uniform etc.
Even paying 500rs / month as an incentive for parents to compell them to send their childern to school.
Why not we promote such strategy so that we make it more lucrative for such parents (which don't find any value in sending their childern to school), which would compell them to send their childern to school.
tamza2k
Members
The policy/scheme is encouraging but my point here is funds should be utilized productively & there should be a criteria for who deserves how much. For this we can develope a proforma for enrolled students in which monthly income of each household, family size & their other resources should be mentioned. By the help of this form we can calculate if how much amount should be paid to each student. I have myself seen these funds are not utilizing puroposively by students. I remember when i was in school ( 1999) there were books fair once in a year & i & my few friends were saving some portion of our pocket money for this annual book fair to buy some books. In students of today this inclination is lacking for two reasons one is quality of education & other is less motivation for study other then texts. Also an important thing is i have seldom heard students to tell about books fair in their schools. This culture if can promoted then brains we can easliy divert to productivity. Becuase in my opinion diversion of attention of both enrolled & non enrolled to productivity is necessary. For non enrolled attraction may be provison of books/uniforms & for enrolled may be some healthy activities.
sasherwani
Members
The biggest issue in Pakistan (more than inflation, crime, terrorism, corruption, powercrises, extremism, poverty) is lack of education.
I have created a fund personally where me and a couple of my friends/relatives add money on a monthly basis. The funds received are as small as USD 10/ month but accumulating. My aim is to build a free school in Pakistan using those funds within the next 10 years. I personally think its a good idea and it might actually work.
Shehzad Roy is doing a great job and his idea of 'get paid to learn' is praiseworthy.
Ghareeb
Old-chechen
Any education devoid of Almighty God is meaningless. If morality and sprituality is absent, then that education is not worth. West is at brink of collapse due to their dualism of segragating sciences with religion and to ape that educational system at this point is foolish. What is needed is to revamp the educational system in line with Quran and Sunnah.
sasherwani
Members
West is undergoing a 'global' recession (just like the rest of the world only more severe). Due to its strong educational/skilled background, it will bounce back just like it did from the previous recessions (and depressions).
shahzad1924
member
"Due to its strong educational/skilled background, it will bounce back just like it did from the previous recessions (and depressions)."
at the risk of going off topic, i just want to say one thing. if education had to do something with the recession, the west wouldn't have gone into a recession in the first place.
sasherwani
Members
Its not a Western Recession. Its a global recession. Even Iceland is suffering from it which is considered to be almost immune from geo-economics.
..and the world will bounce back...just like it did before. We're not the only ones who feel gloomy and hopeless about it :)
msohail83
Member
One good thing under Musharraf was that books were provided to students for free (in schools). I'm not sure if this policy is limited to Punjab or across Pakistan?
I also believe that uniform policy should be abolished. It puts extra financial burden on families already struggling to make their ends meet.
Lastely, instead of improving the standard of education in govt schools, Mr Musharraf along with the chaudhries has made it almost impossible for students to fail in any grade/class. This will seriously cripple our education sytem already in perils, lacking competitiveness, and requiring an immediate overhaul.
sasherwani
Members
Agree with MSohail!
Uniforms should be abolished. I have studied in both kind of schools, one enforcing uniforms and the other having no uniform policy. Its a fact that students are more motivated to go to school if they are allowed to wear what they want. Plus it takes the burden off from the parents of purchasing uniforms. 'Uniforms create discipline' is a ghissa pitta concept and should be ignored.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Uniforms don't cost much, if they are kept simple.
What costs MUCH are the alarming rate with which parties take place in schools, and some such events.
Discipline IS a very important part of life. A person who can't live a disciplined life, cannot bring balance to their life.
However, I agree with this much, uniforms should only be used upto schools or 10th grade (talking about, looking at our education system). After that, when college life starts, then there shouldn't be any restrictions, since at that time, the child has had multiple years of mentoring. In college life, people experiment with their lives to learn how this life works, they establish themselves. At that time, it is important to give them the freedom to make decisions.
sasherwani
Members
jeez.. i know where this thread is heading. Lets just discuss the main topic ? books, Zindagi Trust etc
i agree with sasherwani.
plz stay focused .
Thanks God, topic came back. I stopped writing under this thread as it was going to.........
So about Free education.
@Khan_Sahib:
So as tamza2k, has mentioned there was a scheme which used to contribute towards paying stipents to students and paying for their books.
I don't see any other encouragement for the people living in real poverty or under true rural culture. That you attact them by doing something like this. Poor father wont take his son to sell vegetables when he will hear that his son can get free education, books free, and will get 1000rs of stipent at the end of month. What if girls are paid 2000rs of stipent :)
Won't that promote education thing in poor/rural.
And why shall we not consider a sample/example area e.g. 1 rural tehsil in all 4 provinces?
And also we can calculate success if we get the figures what Punjab govt. did during their times of such scheme.
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