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Free energy.....is it possible or will remain a dream?

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  1. semirza
    Moderator

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 9:36 #

  2. LifeH2O
    Member

    Some say it is possible. I HAVE seen many youtube videos for that. See the website http://www.overunity.com it is dedicated to free energy projects, many projects later came out to be scam.

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 10:23 #

  3. LifeH2O
    Member

    Recently a turkish muammer yildiz displayed a free energy motor in a university. See his video, rumors are that it was also scam

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 10:27 #

  4. iamsowise
    Commenter

    Best solution to Free energy/Power is FPSE. 3KW FPSE is more easier to construct.

    free energy is already there its up to you how you can use it.

    Posted 11 months ago on 23 Jun 2011 15:19 #

  5. bsobaid
    Member

    They sell water in bottles these days, dont expect them to sell something as precious as energy for free.

    Posted 11 months ago on 23 Jun 2011 15:34 #

  6. Faarigh Jazbati
    member

    عبید انکل :)

    کیا آپ تھوڑی معلومات دے سکتے ہیں کہ اگر ١٥ کے وی اے بجلی پیدا کرنے والی ٹربائن کو چلانے کیلئے کتنا پانی کا دباؤ چاہیے

    ف ج

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:32 #

  7. bsobaid
    Member

    sir, unfortunately yeh meri field nahi hai, iss liyay thora sochna paray gaa aur physics kee baqiaat zehen se khangaalnee parain gee

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 17:04 #

  8. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    There can not be any such thing as Perpetual Motion or Machine. Any person claiming that he has invented something like this is either stupid, having no basic understanding of physics or a fraud.

    The reason that perpetual motion can not exist is simple, it has to defy laws of thermodynamics, which is not possible.

    Trying to invent a perpetual machine is like solving a mathematical problem, which can be generalized like this:

    Let:
    a > b
    Prove that:
    b > a

    Man can not create energy or matter. We have to live with whatever Allah has already created for us.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 18:00 #

  9. bsobaid
    Member

    Rohail, I thought everything is in Perpetual Motion and only external resistance puts the motion to static, this is why in space nothing comes to stop.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 18:17 #

  10. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    Motion in space can not be regarded as perpetual motion since it does no work.

    An example of it would be an object travelling in space without any engines attached to it. Such an object will travel for ever with a constant speed provided that there is no external gravitational influence on it.

    But an object travelling with constant speed is same as an object at rest.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 18:27 #

  11. bsobaid
    Member

    object with constant speed is object at rest because there is no momentum, but there are still energies attached to it such as kinetic energy, etc

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 18:42 #

  12. semirza
    Moderator

    object with constant speed is object at rest (relative to objects with same speed).
    Without momentum in space or otherwise, there should be no trajectory, or a path to travel in a given direction. Could this be possible without any degree of movement?
    potential energy on level earth is relative. What about in space?

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 19:04 #

  13. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    bsobaid

    object with constant speed is object at rest because there is no momentum

    Momentum = Mass * velocity

    Therefore object moving with constant velocity has momentum (its actually no change in momentum).

    However, an object with a constant kinetic energy moving in space does not represent perpetual machine since this kinetic energy does not change into any other form of mechanical energy (work).

    Kinetic energy on level earth is relative.

    This statement is ambiguous. Kinetic energy = 1/2 m * v * v
    It does not contain height. Its is potential energy which is a relative quantity m*g*h where h (height) could be measured from any fixed point on earth.

    "An object moving with constant speed is similar to object at rest". From this I meant net force acting on each is zero.

    Force = rate of change in momentum

    since for bodies at rest and with constant speed change in momentum is zero therefore net force is also zero.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 19:49 #

  14. bsobaid
    Member

    Force = rate of change in momentum

    thats true which explains why objects in perpetual motion as in space with constant velocity have no change in momentum and therefore no force.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 20:03 #

  15. LifeH2O
    Member

    What I beleive that we have magnet as a good energy source. Just a proper combination is needed.
    Might be something as arshmeedus said about potential of levers that he can flip earth if he get a proper place to stand.
    there are many videos of magnetic motors. They might not be all scams

    Posted 11 months ago on 25 Jun 2011 15:37 #

  16. iamsowise
    Commenter

    Heat and gravity are two source of free energy, free energy from unknown source would be magic.

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 17:35 #

  17. semirza
    Moderator

    You are spot on iamsowise. Both you and Mr. Rohail Taqi may further guide us to achieve our goals so that far flung isolated hamlets/villages at least are able to do it on a self help basis. So far all governments military or civilian have failed us miserably.

    Posted 10 months ago on 30 Jun 2011 17:46 #

  18. Rohail Taqi
    Member

    I agree, one of the free source available is the Sun along with Geo-thermal.

    I think the geology of Pakistan does not allow to use Geo-thermal. As for the sun we have failed miserably to utilize it.

    The best way to do it in my opinion is the mini hydro dams (this counts as sun + gravitational). I am unable to understand why the government can not take such easy steps to make things a little better.

    One mini hydro can produce up to 10 MW. average house hold uses about 300 ~ 700 KW h or electricity.

    Lets say 1 KW, for an average village house (this is more than enough) then a mini hydro that can produce 1 MW is more than enough to power 1000 houses.

    There are other ways such as installing small wind turbines. or solar cells etc.

    Pakistan is not unfortunate it has huge potential sources, the capacity is enormous. A single project like Thar, or one~two big dams can power the entire country.

    I do not think any of this is possible, at least sooner, because the government would not allow any company to install and operate such projects independently. The regulations - the procedures and the mind-set is the biggest hurdle in our progress.

    Posted 10 months ago on 01 Jul 2011 0:07 #

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