sasherwani
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My personal top 10 most extremist, dangerous, evil and destructive groups/ parties of all times:
10.Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) - Sri Lanka
9. Skull and Bones - USA
8. MQM - Pakistan
7. International Islamic Front - International
6. Kach Party - Israel
5. Lashkar e Tayyaba - Pakistan
4. KKK - USA
3. Shiv Sinha - India
2. Al Qaeda - International
1. Neo Nazis - Germany
msohail83
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Alqaida in my view is a reactionary force. I'm not sure how you're comparing them with nazis, shiv sinhas, mqms??
sasherwani,
i agree with all the names .
but disagree with the order .
i think Alqaida ,shive sena and MQM deserves top posiotions.
sasherwani
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MSohail,
I consider Al Qaeda to be a terrorist organization. It might have had different motives two decades ago but their current agenda is to spread terror all over the globe.
If you disagree with the list, thats your view. "Agree to Disagree" is our conclusion then.
msohail83
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Where is USA then??? Neocons???
You don't consider millions murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan an act of violence and extremism??
sasherwani
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ofcourse i do, but thats not the result of a single group. It's the entire government of the United States that was behind behind those massacares! What I have listed here are groups and organizations only.
Personally speaking, I am of the belief that the Skulls and Bones are a big part of this entire Iraq-Afghan war. Though most believe that Skull and Bones is dead.
I would love to see your list?
msohail83
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O sir it was a group of a few evil ppl
Do some research on neocons
sasherwani
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I know what Neoconservatism means... and I know how much terror it has caused.. I just believe its more of a "Philosophy" than a group.
Again I would love to see your list?
chechen
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What Al Qaeda? Read this famous excerpt from Dr. Muzaffar Iqbal.
Hundreds of thousands of Muslims massacred and two countries destroyed on this false pretext just like WMD.
9/11 investigation are centered on Why it was allowed to happen rather than Who did that.
Whatever it was, for now 11 September 2001 stands as a watershed between the low intensity invasion of the so called 3rd world of the post-Soviet era and the present intensive and full scale war that has so far conquered two wretched Muslim countries and subjugated numerous others without a fight (Pakistan included).
Afghanistan was more or less a trial run. Other than the blind fury and raw rage, there was nothing behind the wanton destruction of this ravaged land. It's most significant function proved to be the building of a war engine to provide a magic word for creating the most sinister label in recent history: Al-Qaeda.
Since this word was invented, framed in a context and spun around a story, it has become a magic wand applicable to numerous situations. From Madrid to Bagdad and from Casablanca to Jakarta, anyone who is stuck with this label, stands guilty, ipso facto. No further investigation is needed. The general public is satisfied merely by the application of this label and the accused is lumbered with a verdict of guilty. This is perhaps the most criminal and brazen act of the aggressors, who have used the full force of their media to propagate this label worldwide.
MQM is not an "international" extremist group.
demitri_indian
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:lol
shivsena is not even indian terrorist group
how come it comes in rank of global extremists ranks?
shivsena is a marathi political party :)
You can include both Shiv Sena and RSS (Rashtariya Sevak Sungh)in the list.
demitri is a good speaker and reader of Urdu language and rather oblivious to Hindi. For his information "sena" means "army". So for demitri's understanding I will translate that in Urdu. Jash-e-Shiv or Lashkar-e-Shiv. Makes sense now?? and ofcourse shiv is Hindu god.
chechen
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shiv sena-marathi political party of mass murderer of Bal Thackeray
netengr
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sasherwani
yes they are all terrorist even though they are against each other .
demitri_indian
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bso
playing with religious sentiments are different things and producing world class suicide bombers and sending them to all over the world to spread terror is different thing
shivsena is a party which is based only in maharashtra
and rss is not a party .i think you meant by bajrang dal which has bad elements
rss is =bjp
and now dont tell that bjp is a terrorist party
i am not acting biased but i am just saying the truth
inciting people is not close to terror.
that way ppp,anp all will fall in same cateogary
msohail83
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Babri Masjid demolition? Godhra? Varun Gandhi? Modi?
ok, just research RSS commarades daily schedule in their training schools then come back to me and tell me to my face if they are terrorist or not.
sasherwani
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Demitri,
I didnt say Shiv Sinha is global, read again.. its based in India. The only global party I have indicated is Al Qaeda.
demitri_indian
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rss don produce kids who blow themselves up2get72virgins.they just work for bjp with in limits.modi didnt go nd slaughter anyone.he ws unlucky to be cm of state.godhra incident killed250rss activists.nd just tell me if anp burns alive few mqm workers in karachi what will mqm do wit dem?be rationale nd understand that in every society antisocial elements only do such work nd india is a big country with pool of people who get hired in party for doing inhumane acts.nd few incite public sentiments.modi couldn control the public mood but he is a person who has made gujrat into top state of india.he is an excellent leader,selfless.and now he doesnt do politics on religion
Shiv Sena (Shiv Saina) is sanskrit, should be translated as Shiv a hindu god while sena is army. Should be clear now, and also to which Pakistani faction it directly equates! Shiv Sena are known to travel to far off provinces for 'balwa' (massacre/genocide). A group from one travels to the other province while the others come to their's. To avoid what....you should know?
yes exaclt mirza sahab. I said the same in an earlier post in the thread except that my post had more venom in it..lol
"demitri is a good speaker and reader of Urdu language and rather oblivious to Hindi. For his information "sena" means "army". So for demitri's understanding I will translate that in Urdu. Jash-e-Shiv or Lashkar-e-Shiv. Makes sense now?? and ofcourse shiv is Hindu god."
but I am surprised, those Indian forums are sooo dead. They take days to respond. We need to find a busier Indian forum
chechen
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China is using the pretext of the so called war on terror to conduct genocide of its minority Uighurs and labeling theie group international extremist group.
Xinjiang called Eastern Turkistan, has been the home for ethnically Turkic Uihgur Muslims who speak a language akin to Turkish. Uihgurs, who ruled the Silk Road cities, have lived in the region for more than four millennia and played an important role in the cultural and mercantile exchanges between the East and West.
Xinjiang, rich in mineral resources, including 38 percent of coal reserves and 25 percent of the petroleum and natural gas reserves, is China’s largest province accounting for 16 percent of the landmass. Though home to only 1.6 percent of the population, this region has tremendous strategic significance for China, which conducts nuclear tests at the Lop Nor range. As a policy, both former Soviet Union and China always used Muslim populated areas for their nuclear tests despite the fallout, resulting in the wide-scale contamination of water sources and land causing large number of cancer cases, congenital birth defects and numerous other related diseases among the Uihgur population.
Despite the mineral wealth, more than ninety percent of local Muslims live below poverty line .Their pleas to improve their conditions fell on deaf ears of Beijing, forcing Uighurs to resort to armed struggle for independence soon after the Red Army occupied the area in 1949. However, Chairman Mao Tse-Tung designed an aggressive population transfer policy under which Hans Chinese were brought in from far away places and settled in the midst of Muslims in Uighur.
According to Germany-based Eastern Turkistan Information Centre, Beijing tried to exploit the United States led war on terrorism in the aftermath of the September 11 events in New York by insisting that Muslim freedom fighters in Xingjian as terrorists. Beijing arrests Uihgur Muslims in large numbers, concludes trials within days, often resulting in death sentence executed on the same day. The Uighurs are now “afraid to talk, not just to foreigners, but even to each other”.
Islam, inextricably linked to their culture and identity, came to the region in 934 AD during the reign of the Karakhanid kings and Kashgar became one of the major centres of Islam. According to statistics, there have been over 23,700 mosques in the region. However, in Beijing’s resolve to destroy this very identity, the Chinese government has placed growing restrictions on the practice of Islam in the region.
A Human Rights Watch report tells of how the Uihgurs were forced to breed pigs and mosques were shut down and occasionally used as pork warehouses to add terrible insult to devastating injury.
According to official sources, around 8,000 Imams indoctrinated in communism, deliver Friday sermons. Religious schools have been banned, many mosques closed and the building of new mosques restricted. The police raid peaceful but ‘unauthorised’ religious gatherings and those found to be leading the gatherings have been sentenced to long-term imprisonment. Government employees risk being fired if they go to mosques.
Reiterating this Amnesty International (AI) said, “fasting during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan was banned in government offices, schools and hospitals. Students face expulsion if they refused to break the fast. Mosques have been closed down because they were located near schools and deemed a “bad influence” on young people. The crackdown was expanded to include other sectors of society”.
Uighur women working in government offices too were told not to wear headscarves during work as it was regarded “feudalistic”. Typical headscarves were permitted in school, but those tied in a religious way, showing only the face, are not acceptable. Some Muslim women were forbidden from wearing Islamic head covers.
Preaching or teaching of Islam outside government control is considered subversive and Amnesty said that, since the mid-1990s, several hundred Uighurs accused of such activities have been executed while thousands more have been detained, imprisoned and tortured. Uighur children have not been taught their history and traditions in schools. Places and monuments representing the Uighur heritage have been destroyed and in most of the big cities there is nothing left to indicate any presence of the Uighur culture.
A government circular called on officials to step up surveillance on weddings and funerals as well as circumcision ceremonies, house-moving rituals and the wearing of earrings. Uighur government and party officials have been told to seek permission before attending any such festivals or ceremonies and report back to the government upon the completion of their activities. The regulations applied only to Uighur Muslims and not to the whole of the Xingjian Province.
Though denied repeatedly, Amnesty has recorded hundreds of executions and extra-judicial killings of Uighurs. Applying incredible torture methods to crush their freedom struggle, China commonly uses painful and brutal torture methods never used before. According to state media, that the Chinese government has executed hundreds of Uighur Muslim freedom fighters. Among them was Alerkin Abula, who founded, in 1993, the East Turkistan Islamic Party of Allah, fighting for freedom in the Xingjian province.
The former United Nations Human Rights Commissioner, Mary Robinson, warned Chinese leaders during a visit to Beijing that they should not use the war on terror as an excuse for widespread repression in Xingjian.
This is a conflict China has been anxious to hide from its people, foreign governments, overseas investors and tourists. Beijing has effectively pre-empted often-weak Muslim countries, which rely on China for political, economic and military assistance, from speaking out against its repression of Muslims in Xingjian. Diplomats are kept under close watch and foreign journalists are allowed to visit only in the company of escorts.
Under the circumstances, China’s notoriously repressive birth control policies, including, but not limited, to forced abortions would seem to suggest that Xingjian is one of the worst places in the world to be a Muslim right now. This is especially so in the context of the ongoing global war on Islam and the fast growing relations between China and Israel known for its conspiracies against Islam and Muslims.
Meanwhile Muslim countries have done nothing to bring pressure or persuade China to offer Uighur Muslims their legitimate rights and end their long-sufferings. The toothless Organisation of Islamic Conference too has forgotten the Xingjian Muslims and failed even to send a delegation to Beijing to at least draw attention to their plight.
For far too long the world has forgotten, or ignored, the plight of Uihgur Muslims who are also not exceptionally popular in the West as, unlike the Buddhists of Tibet who have Dalai Lama, they have no charismatic leader in exile or celebrity converts in Hollywood to rally to their cause.
@bsobaid.
MQM may not be an international terrorist group yet but it is trying hard for getting there .
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