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Government of Pakistan declares war on Chief Justice of Pakistan

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semirza
Moderator

Judge Saqib Nisar appointed Acting Chief Justice by President Zardari.
'Government has declared an all out war on Chief Justice of Pakistan', Iftikhar Mohamed Choudry, is what is being reported by media right now as of 19:50 hrs Pakistan time.
Being relayed by Geo News.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:00 #
toamin
member

Chief Justice Lahore High Court Justice Khwaja Sharif and Justice Saqib Nisar, the senior most LHC judge, Saturday refused to accept the decision of the government.

They made it clear that they will not go against the recommendation or instruction of Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:05 #
urazzaq12
Member

I hope cj issues contempt of court notices to both gillani and zardari. Gillani has lost all the goodwill by being the partner in crime with zardari on this issue.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:11 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

This calls for a 'tehreek' :-)

CJ needs to decide, how he wants to proceed in this regard. I hope, his decision will be for rule of law, to uphold the law of the land, which will be in the best interest of this nation.

I believe, he should hold meetings, with political parties who stand with the law of the land, rule of law, Supreme Court of Pakistan.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:33 #
toamin
member

game is on... dama dam mast qalander

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:33 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Mr. Zardari has totally sidelined the law of the land. He should be given exemplary punishment for this treason by the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:37 #
shriq
Member

Who are the advisors of Zardari or he himself is total bananas?

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:42 #
msyedh
Member

Cheif justice already playing politic and already united with Noon league and others to play political role against government pakistan and ppp, that is why things are going this way, he want to keep Khawaja sharif in Lahore High court, to help Noon league and Nawaz sharif,(Khawaja sharif Noon league ka banda ha,us ne khud mana ha) there is no other reason to keep him in Lahore high court.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:48 #
toamin
member

Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry taking suo motto notice of judges’ appointment by President Asif Ali Zardari formed a 3-judge bench, Geo News reported Saturday.

The 3-judge special bench headed by Justice Mian Shakirullah Jan comprises Justice Raja Fayaz and Justice Jawad S. Khwaja as its members.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:49 #
rhyme
Members

I dont know why he didnt even think for a while about what could be the result of this action he and his partners have taken...

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 15:57 #
msyedh
Member

Nobody can expect any better role from these pco judges,they violated constitution in pass to help Mr Mushraf to kee his dictatorial rule. they are playing dirty game, they can go further to destroy this system, but i am very clear with one thing, this political pco chief justice Iftikhar ch.can not be allowed to appoint big number of judges in high courts and supreume court on his own choice.that is too dangrous for future of pakistan, there should be any other democratic and constitutional solution to appoint these judges.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:08 #
toamin
member

zardari wants to finish either his rule or judiciary, well now let us see who prevails :)

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:13 #
msyedh
Member

To be very honest, both are too dangrous for the future of pakistan, but there is no easy impeachment and removal for these politicize judges, God bless Pakistan

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:39 #
linkwheel
Member

time to play Sindh Card

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:43 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

I thought, after many attempts to play Sind Card, it had already failed.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:46 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

DAWN News: LHC Chief Justice elevated, CJP takes suo motu notice

Saturday, 13 Feb, 2010
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Chief Justice Khwaja Sharif (R) and Justice Saqib Nisar are still considering whether or not to accept the new positions. –APP/ File photo

ISLAMABAD: President Asif Zardari on Saturday elevated the chief justice of the Lahore High Court (LHC) Justice Khwaja Sharif as a judge of the Supreme Court. The decision was taken without any consultation with Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, prompting him to take a suo motu notice of the judges' appointment.

On the other hand, senior judge Justice Saqib Nisar has been made the acting Chief Justice of the LHC in place of Justice Khwaja Sharif.

The president's decision conflicted with the reported recommendations of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhary, who had recommended that Justice Saqib Nisar be made a judge of the Supreme Court.

However, the government seems to have done the opposite as a result of which Chaudhry took a suo motu notice against the decision of the president, suspending the federal government's notification over the appointments.

The notification was issued in violation of Article 177 of the state's constitution that prevents the president from appointing a supreme court judge without the consultation of the Chief Justice.

...

The president's decision comes after the SC constituted a five-member bench to hear the case of delays in the judges’ appointments earlier today.

..continued..
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hmm.. looks like the first clash has occurred.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 16:54 #
urazzaq12
Member

sheeda must be cursing ppp, he was all over the tube, pmln was being bashed from all sides, and he might not even get those 3-4 thou sympathy votes now. But really you can't have a worst 'elected' goverment than this.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 17:31 #
Anonymous

Issay kehte hein "Aaaa Baiiilllll, mujhay Maarrrrrr."

Shaiid woh Aqal se waqaie paidal hai.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 17:42 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 17:43 #
gujjartalwar
Member

Looks like much anticipated drama of clash between Judiciary and Executive has started. SC bench has set aside the presidential order that appointed Justice Shareef to SC. There is also rumor of imposing Emergency.
Lets see how this story develops.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Feb 2010 20:26 #
zingaro
Member

msyedh ... it is surprising that your party also wants to take credit of restoration of judiciary but starts crying against them when they unveil the corruption of mr. zardari ... ye insaaf nahi hay my dear .....

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 11:59 #
rhyme
Members

I heard many PPP Leaders nd Law experts today in news channels constantly defending the action of President considering it a legal action as according to them they had consulted CJ in writing by advising the names of these two judges so for them,this action is not the violation of article 177 of the Constituion...a bigger game is being played by Zardari and Co to malign the reputation of CJ Ifthikar Chaudry nd the verdicts of SC...i think PPP are gonna defend this action...

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 13:19 #
toamin
member

nawaz sharif chooses this time to hit zardari, if mqm & fazlu also leave zardari then he would be political isolated and may find himself very weak & vulnerable :)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 13:30 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 13:50 #
zingaro
Member

Aagey aagey dekhiay hota hay kia

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 15:57 #
skunkk
Member

ANP has announced its support for PPP and Fazlu has decided to stay neutral, MQM probably weighing its options or waiting for the highest bid.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 16:36 #
skunkk
Member

@ zingaro and others, I just want to make one thing clear, I have met a number of PPP supporters today and all including me have supported the President's actions. Unlike the lawyers movement when the opinion was deeply divided and most people were against Zardari, there is a very solid support for him on the issue.

Also, there are those like Barister Zafarullah, Kurd and Fakharuddin G Ibrahim who have said that the decision is right. So its not black and white as is being potraied by many and public opinion is far from unanimous.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 16:41 #
toamin
member

mqm is already drooling over local body elections...

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 16:47 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@skunk: Through your comment/statement, are you threatening public opinion divide, if the public doesn't abide by PPP's wishes, as you do ?

PPP is going against the constitution, the law of this nation. Why should the common man of Pakistan support PPP in this instance ?

I believe, they are in error. Former Judges have also confirmed the CJ's interpretation of the constitution is correct.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 17:23 #
Anonymous

its time to plan another long march for "rule of law" by PMLN, JI, PTI and others because today even PPP has came out in streets of Karachi and Lahore both largest cities of Pakistan and as I see it in Lahore PPP is very weak and today's rally is giving a message that this time long march wont work and that we also have street power so now dont mess with us....

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 18:37 #
msyedh1
Member

This is 100% independent judiciary, they do not have any pressure from anybody, but this judiciary is not neutral, this is completely politicized judiciary, favoring one party and targeting elected democratic government for their personal revenge.
Khawaja Sharif proven that he is more political worker of Noon league than Chief justice of Lahore high court, look high court decisions to stop elections last 12 months in NA 55 and Na 123 on the order of Nawaz sharif, till Nawaz sharif and Shabaz sharif give permission for that. And there are many other acts and decisions he is showing that. But chief justice ch. Iftikhar insisting to keep him in Lahore high court to give favor to Noon leage leadership, as reward for their passed help.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 19:51 #
skunkk
Member

@ HARIS, i'm not threatening, sorry if you felt threatened. The judges, PMLN, Geo and certain others including nobodies like Imran Khan have got this misconception that 'qaum' ke saath mazaq horaha hai, 'qaum' yeh bardaasht nahi kerai gi, 'qaum' phir sarkon per nikal aayi gi. Lihaaza bohat zaruri hai ke iss jhootay taasur ko sahi kiya jaaye. Qaum ya phir qaum ka bohat bara hissa PPP ke saath khara hai, jo ke pichle saal ki soorat-e-haal se bilkul mukhtalif hai. Ye aaini bohran nahi Iftikhar Chaudary ki zaati ana ka masla hai aur isko usi tarah dekhna chahiye, na uss shakhs ko dastoor se dilchaspi hai na qanoon se.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 20:01 #
msyedh1
Member

please do not give me reason that these retired judges favoring and supporting chief justice on this issue, if you look these retired judges past judicial role then you will understand them, retired justice saddiqi rebeled against his own chief justice sajjad shah, he and other judges were standing against their own chief justice and standing with Nawaz sharif government, that is why Noon league rewarded him and make him presidential conadidate against zardari, now days he is working with geo channel to launch targeting compaign against democratic government and zardari, i can guess, geo group is paying him enough salary for this role.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 20:04 #
msyedh1
Member

Do not make any guess after watching geo channel that peoples of pakistan supporting justice Iftikhar chaudhry on this issue, his support is limited to Noon league and few thousand lawyers, not majortiy lawyers,. ppp,MQM,ANP,JUI,ML.PAGARA GROUP,TRIBAL AREA MNA'S, MLQ most of their leadership,not agree with Noon league and chief justice on this issue.
Even peoples supporting this issue, have wrong favorable perception about this chief justice, because he is challenging government, many innocent peoples always support anybody who challenge government, because government is always target for their misries. when peoples will know real politicize nature of chief justice and judiciary and their one sided rule of law then nobody will ready listen this chief justice on these politicize issues.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Feb 2010 20:35 #
toamin
member

You see how media plays this "public support" card!

when it was about military operations in nwfp then same media projected mqm rallies and foreign paid ngo rallies as public opinion

similarly this media injects foreign culture into our society by projecting saint valentine's day, why there is no voice on this spread of moral corruption?

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 2:33 #
Beenai
Moderator

what is happening now..
was quite expected thing ...if one can see what Zardari Govt is upto ?

this clash of two institution wont bring anything good for Pakistan in general and PPP in particular .:(

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 4:28 #
toamin
member

yea... same mistakes as committed by merasi turned commando dictator :)

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 4:51 #
LalBichoo
Blocked

Is there any ambiguity ???
Who's 'appointing authority' of SC Judges ?
I think as per constitution of Pakistan it is President !

QUOTE

177. Appointment of Supreme Court Judges.
(1) The Chief Justice of Pakistan shall be appointed by the President, and each of the other Judges shall be appointed by the President after consultation with the Chief Justice.
(2) A person shall not be appointed a Judge of the Supreme Court unless he is a citizen of Pakistan and-

(a) has for a period of, or for periods aggregating, not less than five years been a judge of a High Court (including a High Court which existed in Pakistan at any time before the commencing day); or

(b) has for a period of, or for periods aggregating not less than fifteen years been an advocate of a High Court (including a High Court which existed in Pakistan at any time before the commencing day).

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part7.ch2.html

UNQUOTE

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 5:11 #
toamin
member

president can appoint after the advice of cheif justice-

where is chief justice's advice in this case?

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 5:16 #
LalBichoo
Blocked

Well, an 'advice' may be accepted or rejected ! :)))

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 5:27 #
Beenai
Moderator

i am closing this thread .
as this is already under discussion ...

for further discussion on the same please go to ;
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/chief-justice-and-supreume-court-declare-war-on-democratic-government

thanks
Beenai

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 5:56 #