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"Great Success of Jinnah and Zia in Pakistan and Failure of Others."

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  1. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    Union of Afgahnistan and Pakistan as per vision of Quaid-e-Azam and Zia.

    By M. Akram Khan, Balida Town, Karachi, Pakistan.

    The only solution to the present problem of instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan is in the Union of these two countries based on principles of Democracy and Federalism.

    In history, Durani Empire was composed of all the areas in which today's Pakistan and Afghanistan are located, and during the Mughal Empire together they were a single country. In the initial period of the British Empire, they were also the same country.

    Later, some forces that had vested interests kept a distance between these lands. Consequently, border areas between these two countries became hiding places for criminals of both countries, thieves of automobiles and other stolen goods. They are stored in this region. This large uncontrollable area is a base for many evils.

    Here narcotics are grown; addiction is destroying the youth and humanity. Because the region is not developed and poverty is rampant, people are attracted to extremism and militancy.

    Union of both countries will make the single government more responsible in stabilizing this region and in satisfying the nationalistic pride of its inhabitants. People will be able to serve humanity as other large nations of the world do. Otherwise, this region will always remain a nuisance for the world. It destroyed Soviet Union. It may also take down the western world, which will be a great blow to the development of Science and Technology, especially Medical science.
    Advantages to the world:
    Control of terrorism:
    Instability in this region is causing great damage to humanity. Soldiers of many countries are sacrificing their lives just to eliminate terrorists from these countries. In the presence of a unified government, it will be easier to control terrorists.
    Control of extremism:
    As a unified nation composed of multiethnic groups such as the Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluchis, Pashtuns, Urdu speakers, Tajiks, Persians and Hazaras, and as a multisectarian society such as Sunni and Shiites, it will become impossible for any ethnic group or religious sect to find any future in extremism.
    Stabilization of the region:
    Although it is now that the problems of this region have gained attention, it has suffered from instability for a long time. People here are finding no hope, no future for themselves, partly because of interference from foreign countries, such as the British Empire, Soviet Union, USA, China and India. When they were unified under the Durani Empire, the region was stable. The same was the case during the Mughal Empire.
    There are three main groups in Asia, i.e. the Chinese, Hindus and Muslims. Chinese and Hindus are satisfied with their states of China and India. The Muslim population in Asia is greater than the Chinese and Hindus combined. However, having no comparable state of their own they experience the stress of inferiority. That element too is causing instability and irritation amongst common Muslims. By creating a unified state of Pakistan and Afghanistan, a sense of satisfaction, pride and respect of having a national state will be achieved. That might lead to normalization of relations with the rest of the world and stability.
    Solution to economic problems
    At present, both countries are burdens on others, and pose barriers in exploring the resources of Central Asia by the world. After stabilization, it will be useful not only for Central Asia and for the World, but also for the new unified nation itself.
    Advantages to Pakistan:
    It was the vision of Quaid-e-Azam, the Founder of Pakistan, to unify the regions of West Pakistan, Afghanistan, East Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia. That probably needs time. It took many centuries for Europeans to realize that they shared a common goal.
    • By unification with Afghanistan, areas, which are included in Pakistan, will stabilize, and migration of people from disturbed areas will stop.
    • Smuggling of weapons across the borders will end, and Law and Order will be established.
    • Similarly, illicit drug trade will be minimized.
    • Whole areas of Pukhtoons (Pashtuns) speaking population will unify, and that will help the development of culture and language of that group which is now divided in two nations.
    • Expenses for Security measures on the borders will be minimal. The resultant balance can be used for the welfare of people.
    • Interference of other nations in this region will subside.
    • Due to unique historical importance for Buddhists and Hindus, tourism industry will flourish and business activity in the region will increase.
    Advantages to Afghanistan:
    • Through unification, Afghanistan will cease to be a land locked country. The union will promote freedom of people of Afghanistan to travel and engage in economic activity,
    • Extremism and terrorism will come to and end, as the people will become more engaged and involved in adjusting themselves in the new union. Utilization of raw products of Afghanistan will increase.
    • Security and military expenses will minimize.
    • Doors to Pakistan will open to Afghanis who look for jobs in Pakistan.
    • Shortage of food products in Afghanistan will decrease and it will increase the utilization of raw products of Afghanistan.
    • Linking Central Asia via Afghanistan to the rest of the world will generate extraordinary development.
    Based on above observations, suggestions and predictions, it is clear that unification of Pakistan and Afghanistan will be fruitful for everyone in the region and for the world at large.
    Mr. M. Akram Khan Niazi can be reached at akrumniazi@hotmail.com

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Dec 2009 12:48 #
  2. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    While recent non-religious and ethnocentric rulers such as Musharaf and Zardari nor have any Ideology and neither have any courage to go in masses and are even unable to control the affairs of the Capital of Pakistan,Islamabad and the city of Rawalpindi where the General Head Quarter of Pakistan Army is located, because these rulers have chronically failed in proving their sincerity with Islam, Muslims and the people of Pakistan ,Which was proved on the day of Death of Benazir Bhutto,when workers and supporters of these non-religious leaders committed each and every crime against the innocent and peaceful citizens of Pakistan, both Musharaf who was in power at that time and Zardari who was the successor of Benazir chronically failed in protecting the assets and citizens from their violent supporters, therefore now how people of Pakistan can support and trust such selfish and deceptive leaders.
    Again on 28--12-09 after suicidal attack on Muharram Procession,so many damage to lives and property of people occured,and foolish excuses were made such as firbrigade were called from Hyderabad to extinguish fire whereas M.A.JINNAH road starts from the edge of sea of water and there was no shortage of water more over huge water pipe lines were present in that area but deliberately fire was not extinguished and excuse that there was straight firing therefore police and rangers were unable to control area,its mean police and rangers are just to control innocent people and not to control out laws,From all this it is clear that Pakistan is under the rule of those who are no committed to Pakistan and its people.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 8:40 #
  3. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    Success of Jinnah and Zia was witnessed by their smile and satisfaction and their body language while those secular and non religious leaders such as Musharaf, Zardari are having no smile in any of their Photographs their failures are just evidents from their faces.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Jan 2010 6:10 #
  4. @ Niazi Sahib,
    Wah Wah.
    What an argument?
    Whole of the Secular World is glowing, smiling, contended, progressing, enjoying and proud of their achievements for the Humanity in the fields of Technology, Science, Education, Medicine and Way of Life which is full of hope
    where most of the regions under the curse of religious fanaticism are dragging towards an uncertain domain, full of depression.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Jan 2010 12:27 #
  5. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    In the era of Quaid-e-Azam MILLIONS OF Indian refugees took shelter in Pakistan as a safe heaven and in the era of General Zia-ul-Haq three millions Afghan refugees took shelter in Pakistan and Bihai faith religious Minority of Iran,and Rohingya people of Burma were also given shelter in Pakistan.

    While in the era of non- religious leaders General Yahya Khan and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto,Ten millions citizens in East Pakistan were forced to take shelter in India, and in the era of Musharaf and Zardari millions of Pakistanis were displaced internally in Pakistan, and situation is so much alarming that each and every citizen of Pakistan want to flee out of Pakistan in the era of these non religious and sercular leaders.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 7:16 #
  6. Niazi Sahib,
    1. "MILLIONS OF Indian refugees took shelter in Pakistan as a safe heaven"
    Yes they came here with a hope to live in a State, full of Promises of prosperity, peace and progress.

    2. "Ten millions citizens in East Pakistan were forced to take shelter in India"
    Yes. Because, just within 25 years, all the Promises and Hopes were proved to be a Hoax.

    Better to compare and contrast the Era of Gen Zia with the Era of F.M. Ayub Khan and not with M. A. Jinnah.

    According to my understanding the introduction of 'Objective Resolution' in 1949, laid down the foundation to create confusion, causing the problems on Governance.
    This Document is enough to keep the nation divided.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 11:15 #
  7. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Javaid Sheikh sb. you are wrong again. The problems were created by entities who claim to be secular.

    Why ? Because;

    - THEY! made promises, which they didn't keep
    - THEY! have ruled over Pakistan in the last 60+ years, in one form or another

    No religious entity can be blamed for any! problems the state is facing right now.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 11:43 #
  8. learner
    Blocked

    @hariskhan

    Quote

    The problems were created by entities who claim to be secular.

    Why ? Because;

    - THEY! made promises, which they didn't keep
    - THEY! have ruled over Pakistan in the last 60+ years, in one form or another

    No religious entity can be blamed for any! problems the state is facing right now.

    Unquote

    Your above statement implies that Amir-ul-Momineen Gen. Zia-ul-Haque was also a secular person !

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 11:46 #
  9. toamin
    member

    I think Sheikh sb has pointed out correct cause of confusion, there are many reasons why it is cause of confusion.
    I also came to same conclusion after my analysis.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 11:50 #
  10. M.AKRAM KHAN NIAZI
    Member

    There was no extremism and separation movements in the era of Jinnah and there were no Talibans and Extremist in the era of General Zia-ul Haq,

    There are no sucidal attackers in Saudi-Arabia although they are more religious and their rulers take care of the sensitivities of their nation.

    while secular rulers of Pakistan

    such as Musharaf and Zardari even are not aware with the teachings of Islam,which is a religion of 97% population of Pakistan, how these rogue secular rulers will be able to successfully run the affairs of a country without having any expertise about their religion and sensitivities..

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 12:41 #
  11. Mr. Hariskhan,

    At another post you blamed a Member to be obsessed by 'Taliban'.

    My Office Secretary provide me with 46 postings showing where you are obsessed by 'Secular'.

    Pakistanis have experienced enough of Lip Service, now they need Hip Service.
    Please don't defend and support Chip Service. (Chipping off the heads).
    Some Action towards a positive Direction.

    Too much theoretical discussion creates division and makes a nation lethargic.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 12:48 #
  12. toamin
    member

    Wow look at this statement "office secretary provide me with 46 postings showing.."

    If this is true then she is doing official work and if it is official work then it is questionable work.

    You guys are in office and doing official work of profiling on a pakistani website but for who? Which security agency is that?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:05 #
  13. Interesting to know 'an office secretary is on payroll' (maintaining a database at least so that she may come up with a figure when asked for), profiling our members 'when and where who said what!...can be anyone but who ever and why?

    I thought members are here to discuss. Not to profile 'on basis of 'who said what and when' so that 'who is who' could be established! For WHAT?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:15 #
  14. Oh My God!
    Oh my Allah!
    O my Lord!
    What a Forum and how intelligent Scholars I am facing?

    Mr. Salam, I am a retired person and got a part time Secretary who helps to organize my paper work, audio-visual and literary collections at my home office and library.

    Here in the US, every minute at the job is accounted for and no employee, including the President at the White House, cannot move even a finger without putting in the Log.
    (And I work only 16-24 hours a week as a part timer.)

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:24 #
  15. toamin
    member

    Sheikh sb,

    I am well versed on working in the US and know how every click is logged.

    But this disclosure of profiling act is something that can not be underestimated, this means a lot to me!

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:27 #
  16. Javed sheikh
    You have to come up with a valid reason. Why you are profiling our members and keeping a secretary specifically for this purpose.

    'I am a retired person and got a part time Secretary who helps to organize my paper work, audio-visual and literary collections at my home office and library.'

    And within that line of work YOUR secretary also comes up with profiles of pkpolitics members, that a certain member has mentioned in xx number of his posts of ....xyz that you duly posted over here.

    You may have been Mr. Dleep Kumar, or Mr. Tan sain or Mirza Ghalib. From where our member profiling dropped into due duties of your personal secretary?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:33 #
  17. Mirza Sahib,
    When debating and discussing at a public forum and facing very well versed and high profile intellectuals, one has to keep a record to face and defend any challenge.

    What is wrong to utilize the technology for organizing your record?
    I am sure, as a Moderator, you must be having all such facility and system at your office to make your job well organized and efficient.

    Mirza Sahib,
    I have saved my school and service record from 1954 and my (late) brother-in-law, Hakeem Nayyar Wasty handed over all his literary work to me in 1980, for that much stuff, I certainly and badly need help to put in order.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:44 #
  18. toamin
    member

    Keeping one's work organized is one thing while having dedicated resource on profiling is another that i am not willing to take lightly.

    I know exactly what that means and request you to accept that like wise.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:51 #
  19. I am not sure about who you are and what has been your past. None of my business but right now why you are using TECHNOLOGY TO PROFILE our honorary members?

    Keep a record of Hakeem Nayyar Wasty as you may wish. I am nobody to object, but certainly I am very much interested why you are keeping a record of our members that at a flick of a key, you get a result....so and so member has posted....
    You appear to be using this information as references, is obvious but what else you are using the same information is not obvious and that is exactly WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN!

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 13:57 #
  20. Mirza Sahib,
    It is not possible to reach the profile of a member by a member.
    I guess only Moderator or Admin has that privilege and power.

    I try to keep the relevant material of the postings by the Members, articles from the Newspapers, magazines, from internet, letters to the Editor and out of E-mails for the sake of education.
    Make sure, I am not that type of person you assume or presume.

    I am trying to compile my book out of over 45 Personal Diaries and collections.
    That include some very good articles taken from the Forum Pkpoltics and other Opinion Platforms.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 14:00 #
  21. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @learner: Yes, Zia-ul-Haq was not inclined towards Islam's rule over Pakistan. How ?

    - He ammended the constitution such that no critical part of a citizen's life came under the jurisdiction of 'shariyat courts'.

    - He turned INC (Islami Nazriyati Council) into a worthless rubber stamp organization, which to-date has 'just' been giving recommendations. Recommendations that have been conveniently ignored by all! 'leaders' ruling over the 'federation' to-date.

    Islam was sidelined from constitution of Pakistan in Zia-ul-Haq's time.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 14:03 #
  22. Not interested in diaries and related stuff, that is not related to pkpolitics discuss members. And don't confuse profiles with profiling!

    Repeat: I am interested to know, why you are keeping/maintaining a database that comes up with queries like the one you posted. 'A member....posted in 46 of his posts....about secular...and.' Isn't this a database?

    What else are you using this database of pkpolitics discuss members, as a parallel to this forum?

    You are not coming up with an answer that justifies your actions...I will take it as you are keeping and maintaining a database of our members for objectives that are known to you but not to us.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 14:11 #
  23. Mirza Sahib,
    I don't want to stretch this issue any more.
    1. I don't know the profile, location, background or even the real ID and actual name of any respectable member at the Forum.
    2. I have made it clear that the substance of the related material from a member is saved under a folder to be used for future flow of discussion and debate.
    3. I realize my blunder for appearing at the Forum with my original name, profile and ID. I personally dont' prefer to hide under a fake and fictitious name.
    4. I need to be careful and cautious where I am the one who has received threats from the members at the Forum.
    5. Please let me know what is wrong with organizing the literary material, particularly for reference at an opinion forum to defend your point of view?
    I am one of those members at the forum who are very much exposed.
    I would also request from a gentleman like you to let me know if you want me to quit this Forum?
    I would be glad to honor your desire.

    Doctors, Teachers, Attorneys, Poets, writers, TV hosts and Anchors, they all keep, maintain and organize their record the same way to proceed further.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 14:31 #
  24. You are not coming up with an answer that justifies your actions...I will take it as you are keeping and maintaining a database of our members for objectives that are known to you but not to us.

    NO ANSWERS!

    In addition it remains on record so as to be known that you are profiling our forum members.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jan 2010 14:34 #

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