shaagird
Member
bhulley shah k shair ka matlab hai k
mandir, masjid etc ko dhaa dou, kyun k wahan Khuda nahin rehta... masjid mandir tou mehaz ibadat ki jagah hai....... asal mein tou Khuda k mannay walon k dilon mein Khuda reh. Khuda ki jagah loagon k dil mein honi chahiye....... na k pathar or eenton ki bani hui imaaraat mein
is liye kisi insaan k dil ko dukh nahin dena chahiye
larka larki k chakkat say nikal ker, or apnay khayalon ka mayaar thora berha ker sochiye
gv
Member
@shaagird
thanks !!
shafiq12
member
gv,
You have see whole life of bulley shah in image of this verse, what made him to write this verse, Don't misinterpret it
1) you are causing the girl distress by pursuing someone who is not interested in you (love should be reciprocated not a one way street.
Poets say love is blind, I ain't causing anything to girl.. she is causing pain in my heart --- the heart in which according to bulley shah God live--- Clearly you aren't understanding what he is trying to say, He had also used religious factors in the verse, Like you are allowed to destroy mosque not allowed to break someone's heart, It is same as a person who wishes to drink wine in mosque, you aren't allowed to break his heart ----
secondly only an idiot would take it literally that you are 'breaking' god by breaking someone's heart.
Gv, ignorance is crime, i am talking in context of verse, he clearly resembled, heart as house of God, if you break God's house it clearly means you are trying to start war against God ---
You are allowed to break mosque not allowed to break someone's heart --- He is making heart of human prior to everything else ---
shafiq12
member
Shaagird
larka larki k chakkat say nikal ker, or apnay khayalon ka mayaar thora berha ker sochiye
This chakar is very common in mythical poetry -- where poets start fight against God in the love of someone
shaagird
Member
oblivious, dont be so tangnazar
this is not the materialistic love bhulley shah is talking about
jub dilon mein Khuda ko basa liya jaye ga. tou phir masjid or doosri ibadat ki jaghon ka khud bakhud taqaddus buland ho jaye gaa
@gv and others
shafiq12
member
oblivious, dont be so tangnazar
this is not the materialistic love bhulley shah is talking about
jub dilon mein Khuda ko basa liya jaye ga. tou phir masjid or doosri ibadat ki jaghon ka khud bakhud taqaddus buland ho jaye gaa
Poor shaagird you need to get educate yourself with poetry -- See the king of Ghazals is saying the same thing which i am trying to expalin --- You are ignorant who is trying to become more ignorant by passing such statements
Here is one famous verse of Mirza Ghalib, which will remove veil of your ignorance
کیونکر اس بت سے رکھوں جان عزیز
کیا نہیں ہے مجھے ایمان عزیز
See, i am sure your ignorance won't allow you understand meaning of this verse so i can interprest it
That is, to sacrifice one's life is exactly [proper to] faith. Or this: that idol is my faith, therefore one's life is sacrificed for faith.
shaagird
Member
poor poor, oblivious
calm down.... have some cold water... open up the windows of your room, let some fresh air pass through... or may be just go on your roof top.. and feel some freshness... and then come back to read the following post
*break time*
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shaagird
Member
welcome back
now.... let me tell you that shairi isnt that easy as you see it!
it a whole medium of expression..... a way of channeling the THOUGHT PROCESS.... and much more
the verse which GV had shared was of bhulley shah...... and what you have written in your above post is supposedly mirza ghalib, as you said.
so comparison between the two isnt logical.... it is useless.... the two shairs are of two different individuals.... they may have differences of ideas and beliefs....
you are not even comparing the shairi...... you are just equating it... i dont know why :S
and just quoting a single shair from a whole nazm, ghazal, rubai, qaseedah, hamd or whatever kind of shairi it is.... it is fair at all.... you can not conclude what the shair is actually trying to say in his shairi by just reading a single shair from a whole big piece of shairi (ghazal, nazm, rubai etc)
secondly.... it is also possible that what the shair has said in one particular shair is NOT his own opinion or belief.... for example... some shair use shairi to show a MUKAALMA (debate, discussion) between two seperate individuals with differences of ideas...
for example.... iqbal used shikwa and jawab-e-shikwa....
dear, you really need some medication, some psychiatric consultancy... please get it asap..... u r in a very serious, critical condition
shafiq12
member
the verse which GV had shared was of bhulley shah...... and what you have written in your above post is supposedly mirza ghalib, as you said.
so comparison between the two isnt logical.... it is useless.... the two shairs are of two different individuals.... they may have differences of ideas and beliefs....
Are you saying, each poet follows his own religion.... If this will be situation of this country then poor shaagird you will be dead soon,
shaagird
Member
no i m not saying that, u idiot
yeah, i'll be dead soon... and so will you be
shafiq12
member
u idiot
thank you, Now, this is good
gv
Member
Yet another enlightening article along the same lines
http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/22/the-hypocrisy-of-misdirected-faith.html
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