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IK doesn't like Ch.Shujjat

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  1. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    IK left PM after supporting him in the un-constituional referendum in April 2002. He has sought / tendered his public apology from the nation. There are two versions why he left PM after supporting all his un-constitutional acts

    a) MUsh refused to make him PM (IK Opponents view)
    b) Mush has gathered the corrupt politicitians around him . IK's view.

    I take IK's view on face value .

    But it leads to another question. Who joined mush in 2002 and who is not with IK now. To me prominent figure /family left is Chaudarys of Gujrat.

    It leads me to speculate that IK doesn't like Ch.Shujjat face or may be is unable to understand (as most of people) when he speaks.

    Any guess guys ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 11:17 #

  2. siddiqi73
    Member

    When was the last time you heard IK criticising Matti Pao, Pervaiz Elahi or Moonis Elhai. So much so, IK gave Matti Pao a certificate of being the only genuine opposition in Pakistan last year.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 11:19 #

  3. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    may be u r rite but was wondering that which corrupt politicans inclusion led him to leave Mush , one time his favourite

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 11:30 #

  4. khanamer
    Member

    ^^ Firdous Aashique Awan ( my guess)

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 11:33 #

  5. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    khanamer , valid. absolutely forgot.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 11:41 #

  6. mariabashir
    Member

    @Sharif Aadmi--"which corrupt politicans inclusion led him to leave Mush , one time his favourite

    Sheikh Rasheed.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:05 #

  7. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    yes. but didn't he mush after 2002 elections ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:11 #

  8. mariabashir
    Member

    lol ! I didn't expect you to take it seriously!
    But yes it does hold some truth.
    Remember the term very popular in those days "DEBRIEFING by NAB" that led to all of these like sheeda, fasial saleh mushahid hussain to support PM.
    That process was underway from 13th oct 1999.
    It was question of bargainig ; how high can you sell your skull!

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:17 #

  9. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Back then Choudhries were highly unpopular and were well known as thugs of Gujrat, I think that was it. But having said that, there is no point in dwelling on this issue because a lot of water has flown under the bridge since then.

    Let's talk about where we are now, because if we can go back 10 years than we can sure as heck go back 25 years, this is something that noon league never understands!

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:48 #

  10. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qaisar Nadeem,

    Bahi meeray , so u think only chaudris were corrupt. All qureshis , legahirs , tareens are and were clean ? Right ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:52 #

  11. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Sharif Aadmi,

    Bhaijee, just wait for the day when Musharraf will be labeled as Mard-e-Momin Marde-e-Haq by Establishment Khan himself. Just like the Legharis, Tareens and Makhdooms, all the sins of Ustad Tablas master will be washed away.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:57 #

  12. msohail83
    Member

    Mard-e-Momin Marde-e-Haq .... getting flashbacks?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 12:59 #

  13. qaisernadeem
    Member

    @Shraif Aadmi,

    Nope, absolutely not, you are putting your words in my mouth! I said choudharies were extremely corrupt and still are because politics is their profession and this how they make money.

    Tareen is a wealthy businessman, and he was satisfied by the amount of wealth he amassed. Lagharis, I don't know much about them but I know for sure that Awais Lagharis was behind the telecom revolution in Pakistan, he was the brains behind granting telecom licenses to many mobile phone companies.

    There is no charge of corruption on Shah Mehmood Qureshi but he is an opportunist with a dubious character.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:06 #

  14. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qaiser Bahi,

    About Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Khan Leghari'

    Do u remember Steel Mill Privitization Case ? Yes, the same privitization case where steel mill was being sold in about 22 billions . Do u know who was privitizaiton minser presiding this dubious transaction which was over turned by honbourable SC of pakistan ? Yes, it was Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Khan Leghari .

    On your telecom revolution , when he became telecom minister in 2002 , there were already 3/4 companies like Paktel , motrolo and ufone operating. Telecom is a new secotr which was booming all over the world so nothing new in pakistan.

    Abour Tareen,

    He is one of the members of sugar catel which was held responsbile for sugar shortages in past few years. Yes he is member of that cartel along with Sharif and Ch family.

    Bahi meeray , there is nothing wrong in supporting a party but please keep your eyes open.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:21 #

  15. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Just forgot to mention , the dubious privitzation of PTCL to etisalat of UAE. Do u know , how many times , this agreement was redone to faciliate etislaate and delay the payments ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:23 #

  16. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Well, my opinion is that steel mill should be privatised no matter what, it's a giant basket case! Khawajah Asif was Minister of Privatization during the Nineties and he made a lot of dubious deals but this is always the case in these deals. Lack of transparency leads to such situations and PTI would implement a transparent style of government.

    No worries Sharif Admi Sb. when a leader is honest his honesty trickles down but if a leader is corrupt and dishonest than his ministers follow suit.

    Tareen is one of many suger mill owners so it's wrong to blame him alone, what makes you think it was him? It could've been any one!

    He is the highest tax paying MNA in the assembly BTW, and we know for sure that he ain't the richest!

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:28 #

  17. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qaisar Nadeem,

    Bahi meeray , Supreme court of Pakistan had to intervene and cancel the deal of Pakistan Stell. Can't you see what does that mean ?

    I have been observing the privitization since 90's but can't remember any deal which was overturned by SC.

    Btw, did u know that Leghari was privitization minister then and what SC said ?

    or ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:33 #

  18. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Sharif Aadmi Sb. lot's of institutions including banks that were nationalized in Bhutto days were privatized by Khawajah Asif, I think he still has cases pending against him!!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:34 #

  19. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Btw, did i oppose privitzation process ?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:34 #

  20. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Well I think you did hence you are complaining about it, aren't you saying that process was corrupt?

    If it was a transparent process than no corruption would have taken place now?

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:45 #

  21. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    No Sir,

    I didn't say that process was corrupt.

    Supreme court of Pakistan said that there were gross irregularies in the privitization of Pakistan steel.

    I just said that Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Khan Leghari' presided over that deal. Even didn't say what comments were passed by honourable Supreme Court.

    And for your kind knowledge, i m not against privitzation at all.

    Secondly , no bank was privitzaed when Kh.Asif was chairman privitzation commission.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 13:55 #

  22. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Qaisar Bahi,

    For your kind knowledge,

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=20066\24\story_24-6-2006_pg1_1

    look at paragraph 2 which says
    '
    bench, headed by Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, said in its ruling that the privatisation process had been “vitiated by legal violations by state functionaries, including acts of omissions and commissions”. It said that the government was giving “extra benefits to the successful bidders”.
    '

    And Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Khan Leghari' was minister incharge i.e. privitization commission.

    And about AAAla Hazrat Tareen Sahib, i said one of the members of sugar cartel. NOhting more than that sir :)

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:30 #

  23. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    And if u don't believe all this.

    Here is the verdict of SC of pakistan.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk/web/user_files/File/CJD_Pakistan_Steel_Mills_Case_Order.pdf

    available on the official website of SC. Just read and even then if u consider Mr.Leghari , i can just pray for u.

    Posted 5 months ago on 26 Dec 2011 14:40 #

  24. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    KOi pti wala bahii bata nahi raha kaay after reading above verdict of SC , how they feel when see Mr.Clean 'Awais Ahmed Leghari' sitting on the stage of PTi meeting.

    Posted 4 months ago on 28 Dec 2011 13:31 #

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