PKPolitics Discuss

Hair raising atmosphere. I'm excited! This after rumors of 40 ex nazisms and 5 ex mnas and khursheed kasuri's brother joint pti. Mqm walas should hop on the bandwagon. I'm loving it. Inqalaab zindabad. Redistribution of wealth zindabad.

at the end of the day imran khan is betting on legacy electoral election and i don't see him winning seats-

Imran's popularity is causing headache for PML-N in Punjab as PTI can attract upto 10% conservative voters of PML-N in next election. If PML-N loses few seats to PTI or to PPP or PML-Q in Punjab then it has no chance of winning next Govt. A small percentage of votes will go to PTI in Punjab at the expense of PML-N and will benefit both PPP and PML-Q. Due to strong baradari system in Punjab, PTI still struggle to win seats in Punjab as they do not have right candidates for winning elections. Nawaz Sharif may go for an alliance with PTI or even with JI during next election.

@Sweettruth

PTI should not target conservative vote bank as conservatives are contend with Nawaz Sharif. They should target PPP vote bank as Zardari is a weaker link here. If Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan fought for conservatives Zardari will be biggest beneficiary and both Nawaz Sharif and IK will loose. On the other hand if IK target's PPP's vote bank he will gain more, Nawaz Sharif will be happy as he won't loose much and Zardari is already at peak of his political career no matter what happens he will do down from here.

@BO

I agree this doesn't look more than 1500 I don't know how did he get 10,000. If it's Nishtar hall capacity of hall is around 800 or so.

@barackosama

Whether the number of crowd is 10,000 or 1000; one thing is certain PTI is giving political headache to PML-N.

ST, you might be partially correct that he is targeting conservative voters.But he says that his party is attracting youth votes and most people who are joining his party are young.
About 70% of pak population is below the age of 30 years or something like this.PTI needs to make sure that its youth supporters are registered to vote with election commission.
In by-elections many young pti voters were refused the right to vote because the elections were done on old voter lists.

I think this is an impressive show. Imran Khan may be on the verge of getting the attention of Pakistani populace at large, especially the young generation. As far as delectability is concerned, Pakistani electorate is capable of embracing new faces and new ideas.

Old clichés like bradrism and feudalism are overblown by the media. They have very limited scope and are easy to beat with the right strategy.

Imran Khan is a transcendent personality. He has appeal in every corner of the country. His real challenge is primarily in Punjab. Punjabi electorate is very mature and independent. They are never quick to react but once they are convinced with the prospects of a party, they will knock out the old guard with a decisive blow. They did that with Quaid-e-Azam in 1946, with Bhutto in 1970 and with Nawaz Sharif in the 90's. They can definitely do it again if Imran Khan can capture their imagination.

If Imran Khan can put together a hardworking, cohesive team, he may be able to turn the tables on both of the major political parties. It is about time to find a new direction.

I agree with Khan_Sahib and Gujjar Talwar. It's Imran Khan who'll take over the country and give us the governance of which we are in such dire need. All the others will soon fade away into the black hole of history, missed by no one at all.

P.S. Good to hear semirza sahib also agrees with us.

@Dell

there are 3 kinds of people; those who can count and those who can't, where is the third?

With that kind of skills in jayalas, Imran sure can count on you.

Nishtar Hall seating:
~500
Dawn

600 CSMonitor

9400 invisible stood outside. Let me tell you these invisible have been diligently voting for Imran.

@barackosama

What's you glitch buddy? You can't see that there are WAY MORE people than seats. 500 - 600 are the number of seats in that hall not how many can fit inside while standing etc.

I assure you that in 2013 you will be eating your own words.

Think about it!!!

@dell

What's your back plan if he remains as miserable in 2013, he'll be 66 in 2018 and you'll be 8+.

@dell

What's your back plan if he remains as miserable in 2013, he'll be 66 in 2018 and you'll be 8+.

Jugtain marnay ka ziyada shook hai tou Fasialabad mein kisi say rabta karo, Inshallah afaqa ho ga.

So what if he is 66. Omar al Mukhtar was 81 when he was hanged and was still going strong.

Sher kabhi burhay nahi hotay.

Inqalaab zindabad.

hmmm bhai konsa inqalab? Islami /democratic/secular etc?
waisay aaik inqalab JI bhai laa rahi for 70 years by supporting the democratic secular system

at the end of the day imran khan is betting on legacy electoral election

ya salam that's right.

Do you have enumeration problems? You don't know what a crowd of 10,000 looks like.

barackosama , bhai janay doo jazbat mian hoo jataa hai yee :):)

@dell
bro are u also the part of PTI's street politics beside online KARKUN ? if yes then in which area and city?

@Pakiconsultant

Apnay nasihatain apnay paas hi rakho mian. Tum fikr na karo mein konsa karkun hoon.

Admin why did you allow id's like "Pakiconsultant", this person is stupid enough to not realize "****" is a racial slur. It's highly offensive please take notice of this!!

spruce

Oye paindu, English babu banay ki koshishain na karo. apni auqat mein raho. Ziyada ghulabi Angraizi jarnay ki koi zaroorat nahi hai.

dell

you can call me good or bad, but that doesn't change the reality, at the end of the day imran khan is going to contest election in colonial authored electoral constituencies which are based on zaat/beraderi/feudal/malik system-

the sooner imran khan realizes it the better it is for him-

furthermore, imran khan chooses a candidate for an election not because he is a die hard worker of PTI or some intellectual, he chooses based on same parameters that are used by PML-N/Q or PPP (take lahore & pindi by-election candidates as example)-- by the way, is jazi still with PTI?

right mr. dell, this weakness of relying on people like ijaz khan jazi exposes PTI mantra of insaaf, if the call of PTI is so strong and you believe that people will vote for PTI then their local worker should get ticket and contest election, why hire turn coats who jump from one party to another and after losing jump out again?

listen, imran khan is a good guy, not corrupt, but i have objection & reservation on his methodology, if you call learning lesson from history & experience as cynic then i guess your future in your own words is "Not sure..."

revivalist

Obviously you are right, just look at the largest Muslim country in the world, they are so miserable without "Khilafat". Oh and Malaysia, don't even get me started on them, they are rotting without "Khilafat".
</sarcasm-over>

Don't you get tired of yourself yapping about a total nonsense. You have no strategy, no clear vision, no well set plan and no research yet you want to impose dictatorship aka Khilafat on us.

You still didn't answer this? lets say tomorrow we have a Khilafat in Pakistan, who do you think will be the Khalifa?

Munawwar Hussain, Mullah Fazulullah???

Until then keep you blathering to yourself.

dell,

Ahhh you have a very narrow vision, as Muslim our vision should never be just to live a comfy life rather the vision is much broader then this. What is the political standing of Malaysia in the world? Which ideology does it represent? What is its vision? We are in the world to lead the humanity as Allah (swt) said in the Holy Quran “You are best Ummah raised up for the humanity”. Now tell me where do you see Malaysia standing in this vision?

Moreover, your comment about us being unprepared expose your utter ignorance. We have a constitution let alone other preparations, FYI. You can find all the details with single Google search or visiting our websites.

As for as who would be the Khalifah, I believe we have enough able and capable Muslims who could take the responsibility but as you have asked for a name so I would say the Ameer of HT “ Shaikh Ata Abu Rushta”.

I still firmly believe that Imran Khan cannot win a election of National Assembly anywhere from the Pakistan, unless PPP or PML(N) supports him. Imran Khan’s politics, which is very nascent and fledgling is rampant on the Pakistan T.V talk shows. Sheikh Rashid Ahmad, the head of Awami Muslim League and Imran Khan, the honcho of Tehreek-e-Insaf, both are rejected by the people, but both appear on the television as they own the country.

Merely brushing away Imran’s take on the current military operation in the Malakand Agency by saying that in democracy everybody has the right to speak out is an eye-wash. We must take into the account as what these discordant and non-harmonious voices actually mean to accomplish.

When the whole nation is rallying behind the Pakistan Army and want their forces to eliminate the terrorism and to restore the peace, people like Imran Khan are hell bent on spreading confusion. He never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity and he never misses any opportunity to let down his fan and he never misses a chance to dissappoint his apologists. Can Imran Khan take Jamima, his ex-wife to Swat in the presence of Taliba? Oh, hell, can he take his kids to Swat in shorts with Fazlullah On?

I hope his political Party and manisfesto gain some momentum this time on national level
we really need such people in nationa assemble in a position stronger enough to impact the policy formulation proces.....

Apnay nasihatain apnay paas hi rakho mian. Tum fikr na karo mein konsa karkun hoon.

It quite evident what sort of karkun u r:) even u can't able to handle the criticism here so how handle when u go in awam.

Admin why did you allow id's like "Pakiconsultant", this person is stupid enough to not realize "****" is a racial slur. It's highly offensive please take notice of this!!

Don't be like a cry baby :)

you can call me good or bad, but that doesn't change the reality, at the end of the day imran khan is going to contest election in colonial authored electoral constituencies which are based on zaat/beraderi/feudal/malik system-

Yeah man that's the problem with these people they become so blind in love of their leader that they can't even realize the mere facts.

furthermore, imran khan chooses a candidate for an election not because he is a die hard worker of PTI or some intellectual, he chooses based on same parameters that are used by PML-N/Q or PPP (take lahore & pindi by-election candidates as example)-- by the way, is jazi still with PTI?

haan bhai farq serif unnis bezz kaa hai , haan saray aaik system kay poojari a.k.a lovers of demo-crazy

I agree that ejaz khan jazi is not a well reputed man and thats why he is not in the party for your information but on the other hand ppl which are given tickets in by election were old karkuns of pti except hamid meraj even malik zaheer abbas khokhar who is new for you in pti also joined pti befor 2 years from the elections and he is well reputed and a friend of khan as they were together in NA.but i can ensure you that pti's candidate will never be a jageer dar,wadera,jali degree holder,qabza group and ghunda.so there is a huge difference between IK and others.you will have to wait till 2013 to see more from pti.

@Dell
"Oh and Malaysia, don't even get me started on them, they are rotting without "Khilafat".

But I think IK is a great supporter of Mahatir Mhhamad

You don't do sarcasm, do you?

It quite evident what sort of karkun u r:) even u can't able to handle the criticism here so how handle when u go in awam.

Do you know where I live??

Imran does have a clear vision and strategy, it is so clear he's willing to implement Sharia.

So, you don't know the difference between Sharia and "Khilafat". Let me lay it to you BO, Sharia is the law and khilafat is the system of government. They are two different things. Every Muslim must believe in sharia otherwise you may very well be out of the circle of Islam.

let imran grow up in the politics.

finally he has face establishment and america.

i hope he will foget all what he is claiming.

i hope he will compromise like nawaz shareef to save his life. and finally he will pass whole life with jamaima

I never see any one who can serve Pakistan equally except Pakistan peoples party.

PPP and democracy is strength for country.

Still a lot journey ahead to make Pakistan strong as much as they can but it must be one day great Pakistan, despite 10000 conspiracies by establishment, opposition, and beoracrates. Who are resistance on the way of poor population of Pakistan.

Pakistan peoples party believes on equal rights for all in all sectors in education, energy, employment, electricity, this is possible in ppp government which is past and future manifesto party.

Contributions of Z.A. Bhutto & Benazir Bhutto for welfare of people and provinces

• The initiator of Pakistan atomic power energy (BY ZAB)
• The initiator of Tashkent agreement (BY ZAB)
• The initiator of Successful negotiation with India in 1971 and safe return of 91,000 soldier (BY ZAB)
• Initiator of strong Pakistan Army (against India) (BY ZAB)
• Initiator of the best air force in the world (BY ZAB)

• Initiator of Best foreign policy (BY ZAB)
• 1973 amendment (BY ZAB)
• Khairpur University, (BY ZAB)

• Chandka Medical College, (BY ZAB)

• Nawabshah Engineering College, (BY ZAB)

• Nawabshah Girls Medical College (BY ZAB)
• Initiator of missile technology (by BB)

• Electricity was supplied to 4 thousand Villages in twenty months in Pakistan including Sindh. (1988-90)
• Electricity supplied to more than 12 lac houses including Sindh 50000 loans for poor people to make small business1988-90)
• women’s banks1988-90)
• Admission and bed fees forced upon during Zia’s regime were abolished benefiting all poor Pakistanis. 1988-90)
•Fifty thousand new teachers were employed in Pakistan. 1988-90)
Education made compulsory up to 8th class. 1988-90)
•80 thousands new literacy centers were set up throughout the country. 1988-90)

•Ten thousands young people were given loans of 50 thousands each to start their own businesses. (1993-96)
•Very first time a separate ministry for women affairs was established to solve their problems. (1993-96)
• Women Bank was established. (1993-96)
• Women were given loan facility to start their own businesses. (1993-96)
• Computer centers for women were started in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad(1993-96)
•Port Qasim was extended in Sindh(1993-96)
• Built 21,000 primary schools in Pakistan (1993-96)
• Electricity to 18,000 villages.in Pakistan including Sindh (1993-96)
• Airport at Sehwan Sharif. (1993-96)
• Work on Ketti Bandar Port started. (1993-96)
• Five percent quota in for women in Employment was fixed in all Government departments. (1993-96)
• 6. Crisis Centre for Women in distress. – The Government set-up “Crisis Centres for women in Distress” in Islamabad and at Vehari. These were pilot projects which aimed at providing medical and legal aid to the women victims of violence. (1993-96)

• Establishment of Hostel for Working Women at Gujranwala, Lahore, Hyderabad, Sukkur, and Quetta. . (1993-96)
• Rearing and Development of Silk Worm Realing and Weaving of Silk Thread for Rural Women in Sindh. (1993-96)
• Centre of Excellence for Women Studies Islamabad, Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar. (1993-96)
• Current ppp have managed an NFC Award; and all provinces received their rights equally.
• Managed to reach out to Baluchistan;
• managed to pass the some meaningful legislation, such as the Organ Donors Act.