Imran Khan's stance. need honest answers

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Imran Khan's stance. need honest answers

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electric
Member

Salam,

I would like to know Imran Khan's stance on these issues, I am pretty sure these questions have been asked but i cant seem to find a straight answer.

1.Abbottabad issue
2.Mehran base attack
3.journalist Saleem Shehzad
4.guy killed by Rangers.

I seem to be more and more confused these days by all of our politicians and institutions. Actually these days I feel bad for our country. Where should our public turn to ...
the two main parties of our country are corrupt(PPP and PMLN)
The army has been given chances more that half of our country's existence and has proved to be completely incompetent, imran khan for a little time gave a ray of hope, but now I am starting to lose hope in him as well, because of the above questions. Imran khan has not made his position clear.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 5:38 #
saladin89
Member

All u need to know is that IK has condemed these incidents, and blames it on the present Hukumat, who sit back and do nothing. Unless u want IK to become Superman and deal with these issues.

Hukumat are the problem, corrupt and have no vision, just daulate ke pujaari!

U want to criticize IK vote him in and then crticize him if required. He has done more than the present two parties have done, by not even being apart of hukumat.

that speaks volumes.....................

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 8:28 #
scandinavian
Member

@Electric

It seems like that you are not bothered by load shedding like the rest of the mortals in Pakistan. I suppose you have been able to follow the debate programs uninterrupted ;) At least you should know that IK has been VERY clear on all the above issues.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 8:43 #
scandinavian
Member

1)

2)

Also watch the rest. The above is part 1.

3)

He has been very clear that it looks like an agency behind the crime.

4)
I haven't seen anything yet, but why should it be different from the Khotabad incident, which IK condemned very quickly!

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 9:00 #
insaftak
Member

4) khoratabad incident and karachi incident are similar

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 9:05 #
electric
Member

@saladin
Didnt want to criticize imran, wanted to know his position. No need to be so defensive.
@scandanavian
thanks for the links posted by scandanavian, i have watched them and i think i am more clearer on imran's view.
what i think imran is doing that he is putting everything on this fake govt. i think you and I and everyone knows who is making our policies in our country i.e. pakistani army. the govt is just there for khana puri so people think there is democracy. so imran should put the blame squarely where its due i.e. army, because i am getting tired of this army being so strong on masoom shehri and so weak against where there is real resistance.
so if we all agree this is fake govt, why we expect them to give us answers to these very important questions, we should direct the questions to where it needs to go.

Imran khan talks very good and i hope if he gets in power he will do everything he says ... number 1 being to rein in this army ... and then social reforms ... i dont know why i feel that number 1 will not happen ... and that he is with them ... i just heard haroon rasheed on a talk show with kashif abbasi and haroon rasheed was exposed in my eyes as an army patho ... and I know he is very close to imran.

to be very clear i am not against army, I am against army not doing its job. and its not the jawans but the generals ...
and I am also not against imran .. i just want to see a real leader.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 17:17 #
electric
Member

@insaftak

your last link has clearly shown imran khan's view. I hope this is how he really feels, and become a true leader.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 17:24 #
universal007
Member

imran khan can not talk about these issues b/c he is pro establishment.
He is knocking the door or agencies and army like other politicians did .i thought he was different than others but he is not reliable.Moreover he changes his stances very quickly.u cant expect anything from him.
he openly criticize other politicans for income why he doesnt declare his source of income?we are not fool to believe that just by commentating on cricket he could earn such a big money that he could run a party,he could have trips to foreign countries every now and then,he could have luxrious farm house in islamabad with expensive dogs inside his home.
more over he has not declined telephonic contacts with mushraff.at one time he was criticizing him too much.
at one time he was criticizing choudries too much and then later on he took u turn.
at one time he was critizing altaf hussian too much and then he too u turn.
then zardari ....
and now adays nawaz sharif..
i think imran khan is very confused person

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 19:22 #
aftab arif
Member

@Khan

You got no proof of any collusion with Imran and agencies, hearsay will not win you any browny points, come up with some substance to your accusations.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 19:27 #
universal007
Member

@aftab
come on jinab,i have paid,organised jalsas in uk when imran khan was first comming to uk to launch legal actions against altaf and since then many jalsas and every single word he said on the record.all of a sudden u turn against him is not hidden.

then about chourdries his criticizim is not hidden and all of a sudden u turn against them.

then against musharraf his criticizm is not hidden and all of a sudden his u turn in such a way that he didnt deny himself telephonic contacts with musharraf.if u r not sure watch the ary programme 11th hour u will see.

then now adays his next episode is against nawaz sharif and we dont know when he will take u turn.
brother i hope this is enough to answer ur questions.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 19:41 #
aftab arif
Member

@ Khan

I want to see proof of his collusion, if you don't have, at least be honest and say you have "no" proof, flip flops are another argument altogether, lets first finish of how you have this inside information about the so called collusion.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 19:44 #
universal007
Member

@aftab,
i am very honest and i am sure you will also come to know very soon,if u watch regularly imran khan talk shows,
if any one ask question about mqm or altaf hussain in last so many programmes that i watched,he ignored that question and he did not criticize at all.
then on 11th hour programme wasim badami insisted soo much about whether or not he has any contact with musharraf .imran khan denied any meeting and he said he hasnt met him for last few years or more,but when he insisted about telephone contact ,imran khan did not give any answer.
atleast one thing is common in both musharraf and imran khan that both love dogs and imran khan has also the same dog that musharraf used to have.if you dont believe watch that prgramme ,i think it was last week 11th hour or week before but u can find in pk politics.
then there are few more things we can talk more about it..

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 19:57 #
aftab arif
Member

@ Khan

Dear i am only asking of how you for proof of your accusation that Imran Khan is agencies man, and it seems you are not going to provide any evidence but take the discussion down another route.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 20:01 #
raheelkhan786
Member

@khan
what is your problem man.why r u doing copy paste this thing everywhere on the website. we got ur point what u think about imran khan which most of the people dont agree. so just relax.dont waste your time.75% of youth are with imran khan they will remain with him.your posts will not serve your purposes.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 20:02 #
Just_one
Member

@KHAN,

You are an extremely immature person. If you think always criticizing MQM is the mark of a great leader, you ought to be pitied.

There is a time for everything. A leader must have the ability to identify the culprits of the present time, which Imran does so efficiently. Today, the issues are Zardari's corrupt government and N-league's friendly opposition to it. This government is the hurdle to any positive change in Pakistan.

Musharraf is no longer in the government and no longer running the country.

The policy statement on MQM has been clearly given again and again by Imran Khan. He has said recently that MQM affiliation with violence should stop before any kind of political alliance of them is considered.

With regard to Musharraf, Imran Khan has rejected his offers of political contribution and this has been reported by Jang.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 20:04 #
universal007
Member

@just one,
@raheel khan
@aftab,

you guys are more optimistic than realistic.
i am not against any body ,
atleast one of you is "mai na manoo" even i gave you reference of programme ,
the real problem is the army in this country and the establishment and any one who joins this establishment can not bring a change at all.

imran khan is very immature and he needs more time to grow in politics.
he also needs to stand clear on his stance.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 21:21 #
insaftak
Member

@ Khan

You know that PTI is a party that does not believe in ground realities to begin with. Pti has been challenging status quo for last 15 years and if PTI had decided to become realist then there would be no one to fight against the corrupt leadership of PPP, PML(N).

If you are realist then you should go ahead and support the current corrupt incompetent status quo of ppp and PMLN.

Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 22:23 #
scandinavian
Member

@Electric

I think we agree a lot, but the below need a clarification from my side.

"o imran should put the blame squarely where its due i.e. army, because i am getting tired of this army being so strong on masoom shehri and so weak against where there is real resistance."

You are right that criticism should be targeted towards the real culprits, BUT we need a clarification from the "elected" government too. Imran has repeatedly said that IF the government has NO say then they should let the public know and resign, and then he promises to point his guns towards the army. Why they are "running" the government when they are not allowed to?

Imran Khan is a brave, honest and capable person and knows how to deal with the army too. If there is anybody who can put a "nath" on the army then it is Imran Khan! Why? Because he has MORAL AUTHORITY and the army also knows that he is the person who will control them and protect them from being maligned - not just in Pakistan, but also outside Pakistan. You must also have noticed that he can be harsh against the army, but he is also defending them especially when foreign media is interviewing him. The army/ISI is a double edged sword and we need to be extremely careful what we say and whom we speak to! Otherwise we might end up loosing everything.

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 8:29 #
haider3
member

There we have it in a nutshell: "Moral Authority", as Scandinavian so rightly pointed out. Think it's nothing? With "moral authority" you can face any hazards, any dangers, the entire armed forces massed against you and you can still come out the winner.

Imran Khan has the secret of that "Moral Authority", the only politician in this country to do so. Now that insinuations and open accusations against his honesty seem to have become the order of the day, I can only say: pity the people who think that such tactics will have any success against genuine authority arising from principles and a clean conscience and heart.

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 8:49 #
khan_gee007
Member

Normal issues for Imran Khan,

His focus is to get into power in any mean!

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 8:51 #
scandinavian
Member

@Khan_gee007

"His focus is to get into power in any mean!"

That's a bloody lie! If he wanted that he could have become PM when Musharraf made his offer.

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 9:08 #
Not Possible
Blocked

What about the issue in Quetta?

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 9:15 #
insaftak
Member

@ NP

The video I posted was about the incident in Quetta. In his recent address to crowd in attock he smashed security forces for karachi incident as well as extra judicial murder of kids by pak fauj in swat.

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 9:37 #
insaftak
Member

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 9:43 #
insaftak
Member

Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 9:46 #