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India and nuclear proliferation

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  1. pakistanpal
    Member

    With the International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) attention almost entirely focused on submitting evidence to the UN accusing Iran of having conducted a clandestine uranium enrichment programme that could lead to this country making a nuclear bomb, the Times of India news report that 4 kg of uranium being trafficked out of India had been seized near the India-Nepal border could cause more alarm bells to ring.

    India, of course, has signed neither the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) nor the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and only four of its nuclear reactors are subject to IAEA safeguards. Consequently serious reservations have all along been expressed on the highly touted new US-India nuclear deal on consideration of questions about India\'s willingness to comply with the very minimal non-proliferation restrictions required by the U.S. Congress last year, along with India\'s ties to Iran and that country\'s uneven non-proliferation record. John Isaacs, Executive Director of the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation was still more explicit saying “Nuclear non-proliferation efforts may have dodged a bullet. If implemented, this deal would have driven a hole through the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which for decades has stood as our first line of defense against nuclear weapons spreading to dozens of countries”.

    But perhaps what even better presents the Indian non-proliferation record is an article published in Rediff’s India Abroad titled ‘India not a model nuclear state’, as far back as September 2005. This reads:
    “Top United States nuclear experts have taken strong exception to New Delhi\'s claim of an impeccable track record with regard to non-proliferation, and declared that India is hardly a model citizen.
    The report comes on the eve of the Bush administration sending a formal presentation to the Congress for a change of laws to envisage the transfer of civilian nuclear reactors and other nuclear technology to India.
    David Albright, founder and president of the Institute for Science and International Security, while acknowledging that India has not “spread nuclear weapons anywhere…my experience with India has not been that it\'s a model…”
    Albright, a former United Nations nuclear weapons inspector with the International Atomic Energy Agency, who testifies regularly before the Congress, said, “I mean, if you think of Iraq, and the (Indian) company NEC, we know they were providing missile technology to Iraq in violation of the sanctions, and NEC is associated with the Indian military. It\'s not just a renegade company”.

    During a meeting, attended by several senior Bush administration officials and policy wonks from leading think-tanks and arms control organizations, to release the new ISIS report \'Global Stocks of Nuclear Explosive Materials,\' Albright also argued that it shouldn\'t be forgotten that “India wanted to sell a research reactor to Iran,” and that “there have been links to the precursors to the Iranian chemical weapons program.”
    “So, there are serious enforcement issues in the Indian export controls and I know they are trying to improve their export control system, but I haven\'t seen any way that they are able to enforce export control laws in the same way that you would see in a country like Germany, which can actually prevent WMD (weapons of mass destruction)-related technologies or items, going out of India,” he said.

    Albright said India was nowhere “near that point,” of having an “effective export control system” and that there was evidence of exchange of fissile material from its civilian and military programs…
    Albright said, “We\'ve been struggling to try to understand India\'s gas centrifuge program and one of the surprises there was that it\'s a program that really does depend on foreign procurement…they have a system where they ask for things from companies - sell the order in essence and we\'ve seen these companies going out and getting these materials…”

    He claimed the government of India “sells tenders and if a company buys the tender, they get the details of what is being sought and then they go and get it for the Indian centrifuge program. And this is happening in some cases illegally.”

    Albright said India was not patrolling this process in so far as to say “when you go to a company in Germany you are going to tell them it is for the centrifuge program, which India knows as soon as they say that, unless the company is asleep, it\'s going to say no. But it does mean that companies do have to be aware of the fact that India continues to look for items for its centrifuge program…

    “In the 1980s, the Indians were getting a lot of equipment for the gas centrifuge program from the same companies that were providing the same equipment to the Pakistanis...”

    The former UN nuclear weapons inspector said some of the material that India had procured illegally, could very well have been used for thermonuclear weapons. He said since the export control system in India, “while on paper is improving, the enforcement of it isn\'t very good and so there are concerns that spin-off technologies or items from the centrifuge programs and other parts of the nuclear industry could end up being sold in places that it shouldn\'t end up at. So there is an ongoing worry that they (the government of India) is not on top of this problem and they want to make money off of these things.”

    Posted 4 years ago on 04 Mar 2008 5:53 #
  2. Adonis
    Member

    Its a shame that musharraf regime has voluntarily admitted our role in nuclear proliferation while we are not even a signatory to NPT nor any of our national law prohibited it. ON teh other hand, we have kept silent about proliferation from other countries including india, usa and uk. Israeli nuclear program is a prim example of proliferation by the west.

    The behaviour of musharraf on this issue is so mind-numbingly insane that I cannot attribute it to mere bungling. It is a solid case of criminal treason.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Mar 2008 8:54 #
  3. OmerKhan
    Member

    Yes men and Jesters. Our politikos.

    @Larki, recent history bears witness that Nuclear deterrence works. It has worked for Pakistan against an agressive expansionist foe. It has worked for N. Korea and it worked during the cold war between USA and USSR.

    Iraq war and other misadventures of US have clearly shown what can hapen if you as a weaker, poorer smaller nation don\'t have any leverage.

    So I disagree with you very strongly. Pakistan\'s problem come from corruption, mismanagement, coups and failure of leadership. Not because of our desire to defend our borders and freedom.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Mar 2008 13:16 #
  4. OmerKhan
    Member

    Well, Larki, we do not belong to India, never did since the beginning of time. So I am sure it was not your semantics but your unsound premise which then make you clamor about all things Pakistan. You are certainly free to apply for citizenship in India if your feel you belong there.

    Pakistan is many times better than India in most respects this current sad situation of Pakistan not withstanding. Indeed military dictatorships and especially Musharraf\\\'s has been absolutely disastrous for Pakistan, but people in Pakistan over all have fared much better than in India. The religious minorities in Pakistan have fared much better than all our neighboring countries. Pakistan\\\'s history, its founding fathers. its cuisine, its beautiful peoples, culture, pop culture are something to emulate and indeed are emulated. Pakistan\\\'s media, its public conscience, its vociferous empathetic public soul is unmatched in the region and indeed in much of the third world.

    Pakistan is a very unique country in the course of nations. It is the power house of the Islamic world. it produces more skilled laborers, scientists and artists and intellectuals than any other muslim country.

    And mashallah, we are lucky to be born in Pakistan. The three of the world\\\'s most ancient civilizations are all under Islam, and I see a very bright future of Pakistan...where this nation would set an example for others and perhaps form a confederation of like minded and chartered states in the muslim world..for a better world.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Mar 2008 13:56 #
  5. ARCANE
    Member

    Thumbs up OMER!!! Pakistan Zindabad!

    Hey if u dont like Pakistan, quit waisting our resources and drive east! I wish we could give them 1-way tickets to India.

    BTW I know many Indians and Indian Muslims, you should meet some and see how they are treated as 3rd rate citizens. Its appalling! Biggest Human Rights Disaster is currently taking place in India.

    First they actually have a caste system - dont tell me no coz u watch their friggin movies!!!! That dont represent but a 5% of ONLY their major city population kiddo!

    Acchoots!!!! How can anyone in their sane minds label a group of humans as untouchables!
    They deliberately massacared and raped muslim women!!!

    Pls do leave, actually I hope u r already there!!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Mar 2008 1:53 #
  6. ARCANE
    Member

    These are ppl that pretend to be Pakistanis but are actually conspiring against Pakistan! And unless they change, they will inshaAllaah only fail and be disgraced!

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Mar 2008 1:56 #
  7. Riz
    Member

    LMAO,,,,,,,,,,,CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME PLZ,,,,,,,,,,,

    coz its very hard to find out what was issue,,,,,,,,,,,,,and what all these post about,,,,,,,

    my own views about india is very clear,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,india facing very big problem coz ,,,,how come all the hindu got educated,,,,,,,,,,,,,and leave behind 47% uneducated,,,,,,

    how u can leave behind ,,,,,,,,these ppl,,,,,when u know figure touching ,,,,billion indian,,,

    india still poverty exist even in bombay culcatta main cities,,,,,,,second largest aids patient exist in india today,,,,,,,,,,,,50 rupees for potshot ,,,,i mean 5 pence,,,,,,,bbc show documantries,,,,,,,,,i love my country pakistan

    where as nuclear concern indian very big follower to americans,,,,,,and america it self looking for help,,,,,,,i think they have done alot for india but some how prices going up in wall street ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so intainglement getting strong in riyadh,,,,,

    if indian wins in industrial world than maybe,,,,,,,,,,but who can beat china prices,,,,,and direct pipe line form riyadh for oil,,,,,,,,,and gas from iran,,,,,,,where indian struggling where to go,,,,

    35 to 40 million muslim lives in india,,,,,,,,,,,,,,riyadh says go back and help those ppl otherwise,,,,,,,,,wall street on number 1 u are on number 2,,,,,,,lol

    beside all that anger,,,,,they can help poor ppl rather than leaving behind,,,

    we all go to moon if u can aunswer which energy u gonna use,,,,take off that plain,,,,,,lol

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Mar 2008 2:53 #
  8. Adonis
    Member

    Arcane,

    You are wasting your time advising someone to go to india, when that someone is an indian posing as Pakistani.

    It is so funny that indians have such an inferiority complex that they always barge in to Pakistani discussion boards and pose as Pakistanis. Maybe life in that hell hole is so miserable that they take solace in posing as Pakistanis.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Mar 2008 4:47 #

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