gv
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@oblivious
"You are wrong here..... It is system which changes the invidividual mindsets..... If system doesn't change,then invidividual mindsets don't change.... See the irony!!!!... Ufff my brain!!!!! A Greater hallucination in my mind!!!!"
and who makes up the system genius?????????????
You really are mentally challenged and here i was thinking it was all a clever act on your part...
shafiq12
member
gv, Good Grief!!!!!
Now your time is up.... I am going to bust your myth badly.....
and who makes up the system genius?????????????
It is God who with his universal wisdom send down system of life to guide mankind............ It is that system which can change the mindsets of people.... Right buddy!!!! Now tell why people's changing in a corrupt system of pakistan for last 63 year couldn't change the corruption in Pakistan.... See, if a clean fish jumps into dirty pond, then it will become dirty..... Even if you throw 10000000 clean fish in that dirty pond.... it wont clean the pond...... First Good people should change the system and struggle for right system... In a corrupt system a person' changing isn't going to benefit anyone....Because the pond remains dirty... What is difficult in understanding in this.....
Why you are crying.... There is no justice in Pakistan....because every one got your and sar's thinking..... Keep changing yourself...... Such types theories are utter by hollow people.... I am sure if justice had demanded your blood.... You wouldn't able to give a single drop of blood in the name of justice...
alirazaster
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@loony toon
which universal system are you talking about? khilafat?
Is a member of a minority faith as Pakistani as a muslim Pakistani?
this was the basic, initial question!
and the simple answer is 'NO'
what is your point? why are you writing crap? what for?
you dont even have any point to make!
u r also part of a society..... and you should change yourself... and give something positive! save your time, do something else.... dont keep on yapping here
shafiq12
member
Sar!!!! good cloud!!!!
what is your point?
It needs wisdom to understand wisdom.... I can't force wisdom into your brain...
alirazaster
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hahah
dont make yourself a laughing stock!
shafiq12
member
Sar
It also needs wisdom to make someone laugh ;)
alirazaster
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not necessarily
Dusky
Member
In Pakistan constitution guarantee equal rights for minorities, but same constitution under 18th amendment does not allow any non Muslim to become the prime minister or president of Pakistan.
Many other part of the world play same, e.g. American constitution guarantee non discriminative behavior against her citizens but it’s mostly Muslims who get picked in random search so is in many other part of the world. Islam guarantee equal civil rights to all citizens irrespective of their skin color or religion but we see day in and out across the mid-east where a caucasian get away easily then a brown guest worker.
To answer your question, in theory we claim to attain an ideal society, but on practical level “NO”. Pakistan or some where else, it is not possible to have an ideal society. External events, incidents and our interaction with others shape our behavior which ultimately lead us to act in discriminatory ways, this drive can have any shape or color, can be religious, ethnic or sectarian.
gv
Member
@oblivous
do you work really hard at being thick or does it just come naturally to you??
Firstly. All systems are MAN MADE!!!!!.
God has revealed a set of rule and guidelines for us to follow.
All political systems democracy, khilafat, malkiat etc These are all man made systems. At some level they all follow at least part of God's injunctions.
So to recap: political systems are made by man. They will also be changed by man.
gv
Member
@dusky
you give the example of the US discriminating against non-whites which is a different story altogether
here we discriminate against our own people simply because they follow a different set of beliefs from the majority
that is what i am trying to point out.
shafiq12
member
gv... not all political systems... If you judge your matter according to what Allah had revealed.... then you are following divine system...... It doesn't matter how you select the person.... Whether you have president or khilafah....etc.... Now what Allah had revealed that is Quran....... and Quran is very clear about justice...
Indeed, Allah commands you to render trusts to whom they are due and when you judge between people to judge with justice. Excellent is that which Allah instructs you. Indeed, Allah is ever Hearing and Seeing.
http://quran.com/4/58
The bold font is your point....
gv
Member
@oblivion
all political systems!!!
at the end of the day they are dependent on man to interpret what he thinks is the best interpretation/application of God's laws/rules.
Dusky
Member
@gv: :you give the example of the US discriminating against non-whites which is a different story altogether"
Security risk profiling is heavily based on one's name and origin (in most cases you can guess the one's religious affiliation by name and country of origin), this is open practice of religious discrimination in disguise of security profiling practice all over US and Europe. So, no, this is not limited to Pakistan only.
To answer your question about discriminating based on different set of belief: Well, this is not limited to to religious beliefs only. In Pakistan people generally discriminate any one different then them self on the bases of cast, sect, ethnicity and many others. So I don't see this phenomena is limited to minorities only.
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